Nav, voltage amplitude control is conected on the + of the primary, there is a second TIP120 with the colector to the - of the primary coil.
Ask Ronnie if you still have a doubt.

Lets just say you were a policeman x-blade trying to solve the case of the missing componants someone stole from a flyback transformer factory and you came across a pile of Stan's Vics, what boxes could you tick.
1, primary - tick
2, 3 secondaries per VIC - tick
3, tip 3055 - tick
4, 220 ohm resistor - tick
5, voltage reg - tick
6, feedback coil - tick
7, reverse voltage bias diode - tick
8, air gap in core - tick
Occam's Razor says when you have explored all avenues and come up with nothing then the most simple explanation is always correct and that is that Stan copied a tv flyback. Hard to take but that is what it points at.

Quote from X-Blade on October 29th, 2016, 02:24 PM

Nav, voltage amplitude control is conected on the + of the primary, there is a second TIP120 with the colector to the - of the primary coil.
Ask Ronnie if you still have a doubt.

I'm not disputing that x-blade, i'm saying that all the parts around that area of the VIC are associated with a flyback driver circuit and are replicating a flyback driver combined with the primary and the feedback coil.

@ sebosfato I'm sure with your Bachelor and Physics Course they taught you exactly how this works. It's annoying me see people with so much smartness that has been working on this for many many years still has put out nothing but their theories for years and years. Hope the best to you as well...! Keep throwing voltage to the water, your physics may someday cause a lighting bolt to happened a wala Huge amount of Gas!!!!!!!!

This is starting to be annoying. Im showing FACTS not FANTASIES! Why you are offering resistance to accept the reality! Damn Nav! Forget your allucinations and read the patents and look into precious data that Don Gave us. That are REAL not allucinations.

Quote from nav on October 29th, 2016, 02:30 PM

I'm not disputing that x-blade, i'm saying that all the parts around that area of the VIC are associated with a flyback driver circuit and are replicating a flyback driver combined with the primary and the feedback coil.

The coil is driven by one of tip120.

Quote from X-Blade on October 29th, 2016, 02:38 PM

This is starting to be annoying. Im showing FACTS not FANTASIES! Why you are offering resistance to accept the reality! Damn Nav! Forget your allucinations and read the patents and look into precious data that Don Gave us. That are REAL not allucinations.

Then where is your working VIC and cell? You seem to stipulate you know where everything fits and how it works but you have no gas.

They are all on the vic because analog voltage comes from positive side (2n3055 emitter) to coil and driver (2nd tip120) from negative by its colector, and all this components needs a good heatsinks.

Nav you are not a educated person, and I will not get down to your level.
I am showing the Stans buggy circuit that are public domain. I showed the schematics and you are being arrogant to me this time.
I will not discuss that anymore with you, but please, stop making "noise" on this thread to benefit of all.

Take care and be safe.

20 years+ people have been working on this and there isn't one working model on video. I told you that tv flybacks produce upwards of 30k with as little as 300ma input and if we are smart enough we can use that information for the good, I also suggested that Stan's schematics and indeed his VIC resembles very much a flyback with all the parts neccessary.
Let me get one thing clear: tv engineers managed to produce 30k volts into a cathode tube without any of it relecting back into the flyback secondary, that tells you they impedanced matched the source to the load successfully because guess what - tv's last for years.
If you can't learn anything from that then I'll just give up trying.

I will try put my tv underwater and wait for the bubbles.

To everyone, I made a mistake on my Photo's when I drew them out. I have corrected them and they are right now. The only mistake I made was the Start and Finish on the L1 choke. So if you saved the photos please erase them and copy the new ones. Thanks R.Walker

Quote from gpssonar on October 29th, 2016, 02:57 PM

To everyone, I made a mistake on my Photo's when I drew them out. I have corrected them and they are right now.

So this one is correct?

Quote from X-Blade on October 29th, 2016, 02:55 PM

I will try put my tv underwater and wait for the bubbles.

Don't put the whole tv under water, Just the tube, see if it still works. I don't think Stan said anything about putting the VIC under water. But he did reference putting a fluorescent bulb lit under water. But I don't think he meant the ballast to. LOL

Quote from Matt Watts on October 29th, 2016, 03:03 PM

So this one is correct?

Yes, sorry about the mistake. I'm trying to do all this out of memory due to not having all my work here.

Quote from X-Blade on October 29th, 2016, 02:55 PM

I will try put my tv underwater and wait for the bubbles.

x-blade, do you know something - you're a prick. If you cannot realise that comparisons to other successful electrical devices are more useful than speculation then you are an out and out idiot. Stan didn't sit in bed one night and think of his technology, he looked at other devices and progressed from there like most people do. One thing leads to another then another, we didn't jump from a steam engine to a computer over night, it is always one small step at a time. Stan more than likely took information from cathode charging systems and progressed that knowledge.
When people get stuck and don't understand something someone did, sometimes you need to take a step back and learn what was before and that can lead to what is after.
You don't understand this principle, you just pile in criticizing everyone's ideas because you genuinely havn't got any of your own.
Now do me a favour and f off.

Nav, be educated you dont have the right to offend people. Be a MAN, not a children.

You have your theory on your threads and we cant see you vic working and your gas.

You dont need that high voltage as you dont need to be high on acids too.

Quote from X-Blade on October 29th, 2016, 02:47 PM

They are all on the vic because analog voltage comes from positive side (2n3055 emitter) to coil and driver (2nd tip120) from negative by its colector, and all this components needs a good heatsinks.

And you don't know or have not investigated that circuit properly. I'd think about what you've just explained more carefully if I were you.

Boy if we could take a 4 foot fluorescent bulb and put about an inch of water in side it and turn the bulb vertical with the water in the bottom and trun it on and see what would happened. and then turn the bulb horizontal with the same amount of water in it and let the water level out along the bottom of the bulb and see what would happen when we tried to lit the bulb. I just about bet the bulb would lit horizontal, but would not lit vertical. Any thoughts on this anyone. LOL

It is more like a crt tv or a plasma, Nav?  Lol
Im confused now. Better to test that damn fluorescent lamp Ronnie talked about.

Ask yourself this very simple question x-blade. Stan had the means to drive the primary straight from a PCB which included all the parts to do so including NEC555's in the pulse driver and the gate, he could have placed fets onto that board with heatsinks and then just placed flyback diodes between the PCB and the VIC for protection. Why did he feel the need to use a tip 3055 when fets were available?
There is only one answer to this and Ronnie knows it but you'll never answer it because you never researched the difference between fets and transistors in that circuitry.

I wonder if we could get a fluorescent bulb company to put some water in a bulb for testing. LOL I'm loving this Idea. We better test the horizontal first. Because if we do the vertical first we will more than likely short out the ballast. LMAO :rofl:

Quote from gpssonar on October 29th, 2016, 03:24 PM

I wonder if we could get a fluorescent bulb company to put some water in a bulb for testing. LOL I'm loving this Idea.

Take the bulb off and attach 100 microwave transformers in series then grab them with your bare hands bahahahaha

Nav, where did you saw the fets? Man, leave that stuff, it will kill you some day....

What i see on the vic is a 4046 pll that can work in manual mode that feeds voltage to the vco in or the ramp oscillator provided by the 555 and 741 that performs the scanning function in the automatic mode (very low freq on 555) I have buit the vic from the globalkast.com schematic to study the circuit.

Quote from X-Blade on October 29th, 2016, 03:30 PM

Nav, where did you saw the fets? Man, leave that stuff, it will kill you some day....

What i see on the vic is a 4046 pll that can work in manual mode that feeds voltage to the vco in or the ramp oscillator provided by the 555 and 741 that performs the scanning function in the automatic mode (very low freq on 555) I have buit the vic from the globalkast.com schematic to study the circuit.

You hav'nt answered the question, why did he not just build a drive circuit PCB with the timer chip and fets on it and drive the primary with a gated 50% duty cycle pulse in that way. What was so important about the tip3055?