Welcome and Thx for a bunch of info Zchiotis,

Hope we can help you 2 with some (good) things you might be working on.

~~

For the gas and RF resonance side of this project i'm still looking to find the ownfrequency of the mixture we are going to use.
So i check Helium first


From wikipedia:

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Isotopes
Main article: Isotopes of helium

There are eight known isotopes of helium, but only helium-3 and helium-4 are stable. In the Earth's atmosphere, there is one 3He atom for every million 4He atoms.[4] Unlike most elements, helium's isotopic abundance varies greatly by origin, due to the different formation processes. The most common isotope, helium-4, is produced on Earth by alpha decay of heavier radioactive elements; the alpha particles that emerge are fully ionized helium-4 nuclei. Helium-4 is an unusually stable nucleus because its nucleons are arranged into complete shells. It was also formed in enormous quantities during Big Bang nucleosynthesis.[54]
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So putting current in the chamber makes isotopes of the gas, ionizing it

Heliumgas is non-conductable, only when you ionize it.. you make a path..

And so a helium plasma will exist out of 3He and 4He

When you start the RF on the chamber..you have to choose and find out what frequency will trigger (resonate) what.





Greetingss..

EZ

Quote from FaradayEZ on September 8th, 2012, 03:44 PM

For the gas and RF resonance side of this project i'm still looking to find the ownfrequency of the mixture we are going to use.
So i check Helium first

From wikipedia:
-----------------------------------------------
Isotopes
Main article: Isotopes of helium

There are eight known isotopes of helium, but only helium-3 and helium-4 are stable. In the Earth's atmosphere, there is one 3He atom for every million 4He atoms.[4] Unlike most elements, helium's isotopic abundance varies greatly by origin, due to the different formation processes. The most common isotope, helium-4, is produced on Earth by alpha decay of heavier radioactive elements; the alpha particles that emerge are fully ionized helium-4 nuclei. Helium-4 is an unusually stable nucleus because its nucleons are arranged into complete shells. It was also formed in enormous quantities during Big Bang nucleosynthesis.[54]
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So putting current in the chamber makes isotopes of the gas, ionizing it
Heliumgas is non-conductable, only when you ionize it.. you make a path..
And so a helium plasma will exist out of 3He and 4He
When you start the RF on the chamber..you have to choose and find out what frequency will trigger (resonate) what.

Greetingss..

EZ

EZ & Russ,

Very much looking forward to your test results on getting the various gases to soak up RF energy!

Later,

kcd

A riddle:

What do Cops and Plasma have in common?

The both like things in the shape of a doughnut :D

 Yes, that is aluminum - I do not believe that the 'requirement' for a steel plasma chamber is currently necessary.

Hi,

On the resonance issues for the Papp test

Found more on the orbits of electrons in He and H2
http://youtu.be/QI50GBUJ48s  (3 min)

Via lightspectrum they may give of their orbitol frequencies
if we can use these 1 on 1 isn't yet clear to me



also some very short lectures (with a pleasant teacher) about electron orbitols

http://youtu.be/9E3QaRxqXZc  (5min)

http://youtu.be/5N6JYY_QDw8  (5min)

and (she has) they have more...


Something to browse with speed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_oscillator#Damped_harmonic_oscillator

its more that those frequencies can be damped and excited in all kinds of systems.. so now we have to find how it is for our project

Greetingss

EZ

P.S. as i more and more understand that Dr.Dr. wont deliver..(also saw a scarecrow episode ) i can not be 100% sure that the RF excite will be enough. Although its also a known way of exciting gases.. but it depends on exactly knowing what to use.
I should find a professor like Walter Lewin (also dutch) to ask these questions to.

Hello Russ,
you question the way to get your voltage up. try a capacitance kaskade. When the caps a bit more powerful then normal ones and your Diodes hold the amperage should be more efficient. i your caps for downward transformation too. Really scaleable try this with a transformer.
good night to everyone in europe room.

cu ben

The comments being made here are amazingly observant and I would like to respond to a couple if you don't mind.

 I am truly disappointed that you will probably not be building the Plasmerg Popper as I had hoped to learn something new. I use radioactivity for ionization enhancement (because it is free energy), Dr. John use high frequency which the inventor styated would be needed for larger motors.

 The only reason I fill to slightly over 1 atm (30 in-hg) is that I do not have to worry about leakage in. To obtain accurate results you absolutely have to have consistency. As you are plotting your results, contaminants will screw up everything. If you are going to run without a force return, you will have to run slightly negative to return the piston home each time.

The ionization voltage is a function of the pressure and gap. Good results can be obtained even at -10 in-hg or more. Be sure to read and understand Pashen's curves and limitations.  

What you are preparing to do is 1) ionize by one of several methods 2) create a plasma 3) then create work.  Now, when this is done, you have essentially completed less than one third of the entire cycle. As the plasma collapses you must re-layer the gasses, capture the electrons in the argon layer, utilize this power to pre-excite the opposite charging cylinder, and reestablish the precharge voltage on the anode and cathode and finally collapse and begin the upstroke and recharge cycle.

It's unclear what you are planning to do about the anode and cathode. It is my belief that this will just skew the input power up somewhat and you can omit them to begin with.  

The coils (all three) are absolutely necessary for the full cycle, providing multiple services during charge, field, and back emf. I would suggest you wind up one coil to play with on your popper. Try 24 v N to S and S to N. Contrary to popular opinion, the field strength of these coils is no where near enough to isolate gasses at almost a thousand psi from the walls. I think you will find that the coil if improperly timed will actually suppress the plasma power.  

Quote from bjrohner on September 10th, 2012, 07:42 PM

The comments being made here are amazingly observant and I would like to respond to a couple if you don't mind.

 I am truly disappointed that you will probably not be building the Plasmerg Popper as I had hoped to learn something new. I use radioactivity for ionization enhancement (because it is free energy), Dr. John use high frequency which the inventor styated would be needed for larger motors.

 The only reason I fill to slightly over 1 atm (30 in-hg) is that I do not have to worry about leakage in. To obtain accurate results you absolutely have to have consistency. As you are plotting your results, contaminants will screw up everything. If you are going to run without a force return, you will have to run slightly negative to return the piston home each time.

The ionization voltage is a function of the pressure and gap. Good results can be obtained even at -10 in-hg or more. Be sure to read and understand Pashen's curves and limitations.  

What you are preparing to do is 1) ionize by one of several methods 2) create a plasma 3) then create work.  Now, when this is done, you have essentially completed less than one third of the entire cycle. As the plasma collapses you must re-layer the gasses, capture the electrons in the argon layer, utilize this power to pre-excite the opposite charging cylinder, and reestablish the precharge voltage on the anode and cathode and finally collapse and begin the upstroke and recharge cycle.

It's unclear what you are planning to do about the anode and cathode. It is my belief that this will just skew the input power up somewhat and you can omit them to begin with.  

The coils (all three) are absolutely necessary for the full cycle, providing multiple services during charge, field, and back emf. I would suggest you wind up one coil to play with on your popper. Try 24 v N to S and S to N. Contrary to popular opinion, the field strength of these coils is no where near enough to isolate gasses at almost a thousand psi from the walls. I think you will find that the coil if improperly timed will actually suppress the plasma power.

Thanks for the info Bob, Jeff.:D

Quote from bjrohner on September 10th, 2012, 07:42 PM

The comments being made here are amazingly observant and I would like to respond to a couple if you don't mind.

Your welcome here any time you see fit, we are glad for your IN put!!!

Quote

I am truly disappointed that you will probably not be building the Plasmerg Popper as I had hoped to learn something new. I use radioactivity for ionization enhancement (because it is free energy), Dr. John use high frequency which the inventor styated would be needed for larger motors.

yes, its sad, but whats ok about it is i still plan on using RF and will be playing with it to see the deference's. i think we can do away with the anode and cathode and use RF, this all will be inside the cylinder so im not concerned about RF burns or radiation from it...

Quote

What you are preparing to do is 1) ionize by one of several methods 2) create a plasma 3) then create work.  Now, when this is done, you have essentially completed less than one third of the entire cycle. As the plasma collapses you must re-layer the gasses, capture the electrons in the argon layer, utilize this power to pre-excite the opposite charging cylinder, and reestablish the precharge voltage on the anode and cathode and finally collapse and begin the upstroke and recharge cycle.

i agree, the patents state this very well.

Quote

It's unclear what you are planning to do about the anode and cathode. It is my belief that this will just skew the input power up somewhat and you can omit them to begin with.

for now, i hope that i can trade off with just using more input power, ( more joules) and get it poppin... just to see it work. then i will work on ither the buckets, or RF... i will make the buckets, but i done have anything to put in them... (gas mantels is the only thing i can get a hold of at the moment...)

Quote

The coils (all three) are absolutely necessary for the full cycle, providing multiple services during charge, field, and back emf. I would suggest you wind up one coil to play with on your popper. Try 24 v N to S and S to N. Contrary to popular opinion, the field strength of these coils is no where near enough to isolate gasses at almost a thousand psi from the walls. I think you will find that the coil if improperly timed will actually suppress the plasma power.

will try all different voltages and coils. testing will tell me a lot.

bob, thanks for your in put, as stated before, some input from here to there is wonderful and i think you for that. keep us in the right track!!!

i'm also attaching some photos of the test unit base as it sits right now... 95% done! :)

I think i can finish it tomorrow... 8 more holes to drill and its done...

the bottom is cut slightly too deep but i dont think its going to change much... (got in a hurry)

the overall OD is bigger than yours by about .25" but other than that its close to dead on...

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to everyone else,

 i read all the comments and just dont have the time to reply to them all but just know i'm reading and i want to tank all the new members and everyone for there input! welcome and blessings!

~Russ

Just wanted to say..bless you Bob!!

And bless ye for sticking around and guide us here and there.

Science still has a lot of wonders and we are in a crewsial(?) time to see if mankind can turn the right way or must still walk a violent and difficult path before
things go better.

Even the Kesh-foundation (with big words) is in essence still very small, so changes have to come from all places. And signs of that are noticeable.

So (pouring Bob a cold beer) cheers to you  ;)

So (pouring Bob a cold beer) cheers to you  ;)


And back to work....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschen's_law

http://home.earthlink.net/~jimlux/hv/paschen.htm

Mr. Rohner, Thank you!!

Russ, nice workmanship!!

kcd

Found this extremely relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yd3bGf8msY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Good stuff!

~Russ

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on September 11th, 2012, 03:51 AM

Quote from bjrohner on September 10th, 2012, 07:42 PM

The comments being made here are amazingly observant and I would like to respond to a couple if you don't mind.

Your welcome here any time you see fit, we are glad for your IN put!!!

Quote

I am truly disappointed that you will probably not be building the Plasmerg Popper as I had hoped to learn something new. I use radioactivity for ionization enhancement (because it is free energy), Dr. John use high frequency which the inventor styated would be needed for larger motors.

i'm new to the forum and apologize for asking a question that might have alteady been asked, but what happened to the plasmerg kit? I read that you paid for it with a bank check and that it was received. they they just not send it?




yes, its sad, but whats ok about it is i still plan on using RF and will be playing with it to see the deference's. i think we can do away with the anode and cathode and use RF, this all will be inside the cylinder so im not concerned about RF burns or radiation from it...

Quote

What you are preparing to do is 1) ionize by one of several methods 2) create a plasma 3) then create work.  Now, when this is done, you have essentially completed less than one third of the entire cycle. As the plasma collapses you must re-layer the gasses, capture the electrons in the argon layer, utilize this power to pre-excite the opposite charging cylinder, and reestablish the precharge voltage on the anode and cathode and finally collapse and begin the upstroke and recharge cycle.

i agree, the patents state this very well.

Quote

It's unclear what you are planning to do about the anode and cathode. It is my belief that this will just skew the input power up somewhat and you can omit them to begin with.

for now, i hope that i can trade off with just using more input power, ( more joules) and get it poppin... just to see it work. then i will work on ither the buckets, or RF... i will make the buckets, but i done have anything to put in them... (gas mantels is the only thing i can get a hold of at the moment...)

Quote

The coils (all three) are absolutely necessary for the full cycle, providing multiple services during charge, field, and back emf. I would suggest you wind up one coil to play with on your popper. Try 24 v N to S and S to N. Contrary to popular opinion, the field strength of these coils is no where near enough to isolate gasses at almost a thousand psi from the walls. I think you will find that the coil if improperly timed will actually suppress the plasma power.

will try all different voltages and coils. testing will tell me a lot.

bob, thanks for your in put, as stated before, some input from here to there is wonderful and i think you for that. keep us in the right track!!!

i'm also attaching some photos of the test unit base as it sits right now... 95% done! :)

I think i can finish it tomorrow... 8 more holes to drill and its done...

the bottom is cut slightly too deep but i dont think its going to change much... (got in a hurry)

the overall OD is bigger than yours by about .25" but other than that its close to dead on...





to everyone else,

 i read all the comments and just dont have the time to reply to them all but just know i'm reading and i want to tank all the new members and everyone for there input! welcome and blessings!

~Russ

Hello fellow poppers,

Speaking of Poppers...I finally received my Plasmerg popper kit, after 5 weeks on back-order.

I tested it today and am very pleased with its operation.  Here's a link to the test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFt_q69dxk  All the parts you see are it.  The rest has to be aquired elsewhere.  Still...the kit is worth a lot more than the $350...just in intelectual property alone.  Now, I have to adapt the kit to run my 5 HP B&S engine...which means building a whole new piston head.  But, "There is no free lunch".  Back to work I go.

Chuck

Quote from zerwell on September 11th, 2012, 04:30 PM

Hello fellow poppers,

Speaking of Poppers...I finally received my Plasmerg popper kit, after 5 weeks on back-order.

I tested it today and am very pleased with its operation.  Here's a link to the test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFt_q69dxk  All the parts you see are it.  The rest has to be aquired elsewhere.  Still...the kit is worth a lot more than the $350...just in intelectual property alone.  Now, I have to adapt the kit to run my 5 HP B&S engine...which means building a whole new piston head.  But, "There is no free lunch".  Back to work I go.

Chuck

Very good, Chuck can you show what the rest of the kit looks like and is the piston you need to make aluminum? Thanks.:cool::D:P

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 11th, 2012, 04:42 PM

Very good, Chuck can you show what the rest of the kit looks like and is the piston you need to make aluminum? Thanks.:cool::D:P

I pretty sure Chuck meant that all of the parts you see in the vid ARE the kit. Apparently just the electronics?

Surly there is more to the kit than the electronics, I have built all of that years ago, 555 timer and HV circuit, you can take a Lawton circuit wire up an ignition coil to it and fire a spark plug, I made a video of that.:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlgZK1Ydm_I&feature=plcp

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 11th, 2012, 06:47 PM

Surly there is more to the kit than the electronics, I have built all of that years ago, 555 timer and HV circuit, you can take a Lawton circuit wire up an ignition coil to it and fire a spark plug, I made a video of that.:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlgZK1Ydm_I&feature=plcp

Nope that's it Jeff, that's why I stated in my last update that I think I'll rather just take the money back... He did say there was documentation. But thats all the parts...

Could get all that and more for 350$

Thought the coils around the cylinder was also included... But it's not. Everything else is home made!!!

Last update video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxerjjhWg9Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on September 12th, 2012, 02:17 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 11th, 2012, 06:47 PM

Surly there is more to the kit than the electronics, I have built all of that years ago, 555 timer and HV circuit, you can take a Lawton circuit wire up an ignition coil to it and fire a spark plug, I made a video of that.:D

Nope that's it Jeff, that's why I stated in my last update that I think I'll rather just take the money back... He did say there was documentation. But thats all the parts...

Could get all that and more for 350$

Thought the coils around the cylinder was also included... But it's not. Everything else is home made!!!

Oh Dear... really...get ye money back!!

Those bleeding Flacks!

But at the same time..those are the people that won't refund


Again a  f***ing lesson learned.....


~~~~~~ and as to your video~~~~

Nice work, and as you say .... first get the first pop done..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYoHZzYWkuQ&feature=relmfu:)


Additional research, the disruptive discharge of the spark gap..

Quote from FaradayEZ on September 12th, 2012, 05:08 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on September 12th, 2012, 02:17 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 11th, 2012, 06:47 PM

Surly there is more to the kit than the electronics, I have built all of that years ago, 555 timer and HV circuit, you can take a Lawton circuit wire up an ignition coil to it and fire a spark plug, I made a video of that.:D

Nope that's it Jeff, that's why I stated in my last update that I think I'll rather just take the money back... He did say there was documentation. But thats all the parts...

Could get all that and more for 350$



Thought the coils around the cylinder was also included... But it's not. Everything else is home made!!!

Oh Dear... really...get ye money back!!

Those bleeding Flacks!

But at the same time..those are the people that won't refund


Again a  f***ing lesson learned.....


~~~~~~ and as to your video~~~~

Nice work, and as you say .... first get the first pop done..

Guys,

The video showed all the parts.  What I didn't mention is that a 15 page instruction manual comes with the parts.  It is somewhat helpful and gives a reference to obtaining the gas from a Toledo, OH vendor; and a place where can get the cylinder...but that's about all the help on acquiring parts.  The "Lawton" circuit duplicates the spark well.  But the PlasMerg circuit is a much higher voltage, I think...check out this site: http://www.weaponxperformance.com/main/ignition_coils.htm
The manual also gives you the dimensions of the piston and head...around 3".  But that won't work for me, since my engine has a 2 5/8" diameter piston.  I need to find a 3D printer service that can print my piston and head out of HD plastic.  Do any of you guys know of a resource I could use?  I'm thinking my cylinder could be schedule 40 PVC?  I'll post more videos as the project proceeds.  Russ's idea of open source is a good idea.  There's plenty of room for everybody in this game.  And, you should be able to make some money selling parts to other members as well.  I'll have some gas for sale in a week or two at cost plus 10%, plus shipping.
The way it could work, is you send me a small CO2 paint ball gun canister; I fill it with 60# of noble gas, and ship it back.  Some details to work out, but it's a start.

Regards,

Chuck Bagwell

Quote from zerwell on September 12th, 2012, 05:55 AM

Quote from FaradayEZ on September 12th, 2012, 05:08 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on September 12th, 2012, 02:17 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 11th, 2012, 06:47 PM

Surly there is more to the kit than the electronics, I have built all of that years ago, 555 timer and HV circuit, you can take a Lawton circuit wire up an ignition coil to it and fire a spark plug, I made a video of that.:D

Nope that's it Jeff, that's why I stated in my last update that I think I'll rather just take the money back... He did say there was documentation. But thats all the parts...

Could get all that and more for 350$



Thought the coils around the cylinder was also included... But it's not. Everything else is home made!!!

Oh Dear... really...get ye money back!!

Those bleeding Flacks!

But at the same time..those are the people that won't refund


Again a  f***ing lesson learned.....


~~~~~~ and as to your video~~~~

Nice work, and as you say .... first get the first pop done..

Guys,

The video showed all the parts.  What I didn't mention is that a 15 page instruction manual comes with the parts.  It is somewhat helpful and gives a reference to obtaining the gas from a Toledo, OH vendor; and a place where can get the cylinder...but that's about all the help on acquiring parts.  The "Lawton" circuit duplicates the spark well.  But the PlasMerg circuit is a much higher voltage, I think...check out this site: http://www.weaponxperformance.com/main/ignition_coils.htm
The manual also gives you the dimensions of the piston and head...around 3".  But that won't work for me, since my engine has a 2 5/8" diameter piston.  I need to find a 3D printer service that can print my piston and head out of HD plastic.  Do any of you guys know of a resource I could use?  I'm thinking my cylinder could be schedule 40 PVC?  I'll post more videos as the project proceeds.  Russ's idea of open source is a good idea.  There's plenty of room for everybody in this game.  And, you should be able to make some money selling parts to other members as well.  I'll have some gas for sale in a week or two at cost plus 10%, plus shipping.
The way it could work, is you send me a small CO2 paint ball gun canister; I fill it with 60# of noble gas, and ship it back.  Some details to work out, but it's a start.

Regards,

Chuck Bagwell

Chuck, FYi,

If you do plan on selling gas ( sence it's already in the public domain {open sorce} that's ok but don't forget to post it in the "open sorce projects" part of the forums)

And for anything else ( parts ECT. Please make sure all the drawings and everything else is published with the part being sold, we have had other problems with a member of the forums, I don't want it
To happen again, can explain more in a PM if you want,)

Basically everything here must be open sorce, part of the rules when you sigh up! Don't want to stir the pot on this one again... ;)

But some one will need to make and sell parts. Just make sure what ever it is... The person has all the diagrams / prints to " build it them selfs or buy it" that is what qualifies as "ok" to post on the forums. Otherwise we are out of luck as far as selling stuff here on the forums...

Any way like I say I will explain more if you'd like, just don't want to have a conflict like we have in the past...

Keep going!!! ;)

~Russ

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on September 12th, 2012, 06:24 AM

Quote from zerwell on September 12th, 2012, 05:55 AM

Quote from FaradayEZ on September 12th, 2012, 05:08 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on September 12th, 2012, 02:17 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 11th, 2012, 06:47 PM

Surly there is more to the kit than the electronics, I have built all of that years ago, 555 timer and HV circuit, you can take a Lawton circuit wire up an ignition coil to it and fire a spark plug, I made a video of that.:D

Nope that's it Jeff, that's why I stated in my last update that I think I'll rather just take the money back... He did say there was documentation. But thats all the parts...

Could get all that and more for 350$



Thought the coils around the cylinder was also included... But it's not. Everything else is home made!!!

Oh Dear... really...get ye money back!!

Those bleeding Flacks!

But at the same time..those are the people that won't refund


Again a  f***ing lesson learned.....


~~~~~~ and as to your video~~~~

Nice work, and as you say .... first get the first pop done..

Guys,

The video showed all the parts.  What I didn't mention is that a 15 page instruction manual comes with the parts.  It is somewhat helpful and gives a reference to obtaining the gas from a Toledo, OH vendor; and a place where can get the cylinder...but that's about all the help on acquiring parts.  The "Lawton" circuit duplicates the spark well.  But the PlasMerg circuit is a much higher voltage, I think...check out this site: http://www.weaponxperformance.com/main/ignition_coils.htm
The manual also gives you the dimensions of the piston and head...around 3".  But that won't work for me, since my engine has a 2 5/8" diameter piston.  I need to find a 3D printer service that can print my piston and head out of HD plastic.  Do any of you guys know of a resource I could use?  I'm thinking my cylinder could be schedule 40 PVC?  I'll post more videos as the project proceeds.  Russ's idea of open source is a good idea.  There's plenty of room for everybody in this game.  And, you should be able to make some money selling parts to other members as well.  I'll have some gas for sale in a week or two at cost plus 10%, plus shipping.
The way it could work, is you send me a small CO2 paint ball gun canister; I fill it with 60# of noble gas, and ship it back.  Some details to work out, but it's a start.

Regards,

Chuck Bagwell

Chuck, FYi,

If you do plan on selling gas ( sence it's already in the public domain {open sorce} that's ok but don't forget to post it in the "open sorce projects" part of the forums)

And for anything else ( parts ECT. Please make sure all the drawings and everything else is published with the part being sold, we have had other problems with a member of the forums, I don't want it
To happen again, can explain more in a PM if you want,)

Basically everything here must be open sorce, part of the rules when you sigh up! Don't want to stir the pot on this one again... ;)

But some one will need to make and sell parts. Just make sure what ever it is... The person has all the diagrams / prints to " build it them selfs or buy it" that is what qualifies as "ok" to post on the forums. Otherwise we are out of luck as far as selling stuff here on the forums...

Any way like I say I will explain more if you'd like, just don't want to have a conflict like we have in the past...

Keep going!!! ;)

~Russ

I understand Russ.  
Thanks,
Chuck

Yes the Lawton circuit is just one part of the larger circuit to cause the spark, it just creates the pulse needed to excite the primary of a step up transformer to induce a much larger voltage to create the spark, much the same way the points were used in the old style ignition systems. This could be done using the simplest form of the 555 timer circuit. Using the same means you can create a much larger and much hotter spark, of course with different components. The video was just to show one that it could be done. Also, an off the shelf spark plug could be modified to give the plasmatic effect. :D

Well Russ
After seeing the kit-i hope you get your money back.
I thought it came with the cylender,piston-the whole shooting match that they showed in the advertisment for it??
I hate to say it-but that looks more like a $35.oo kit-not $350.oo.
I know you said you wernt takeing side's-but after seeing that little rip off--im sticking with Bob.
As soon as i get my system to stop blowing the tungsten rod's to bits-i will post a video and scematic of a far more powerful system that anyone can build and afford.
What i have seen from that kit Russ is that they should have employed you to build there electronic circuit for them lol.
You could say you give more bang for the buck .

Here's some interesting news just in from Heinz Klostermann holder of US patent # US7076950

http://www.google.com/patents?id=nhx6AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

He very kindly sent us the link to this very interesting article...

Note: On August 14, John Rohner told me that his brother, Bob fabricated the statement ascribed to John, and that no such dialogue took place between John and President Clinton and Senator Reid as Bob alleged.

http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602158_Bill_Clinton_and_Harry_Reid_allegedly_supporting_Inteligentry/

So it looks like the plotting continues to thicken!  :)

All the best

ethospete