Dear simon ,You have said that once mixed the noble gases stay mixed and I 'm not smart enough to under stand why.I don't dought you but would like to know how to test your statement. Common sense would lead me to believe that helium which has a atomic weight of 2 should rise to the top of the vessel when mixed with the other 5 noble gases. Once running in the engine they wouldn't have time to separate with being acted by some force like magnetic which will move the electrons even in a noble gas. I'm only a electronic tech. so please answer in laymans terms if thats possible. Thanks Ed Hemphill
Dear Simon I ment to say Would not separate with out being being acted on by a force . sorry Ed
It's not like mixing oil and water, where the ingredients don't mix. It's somewhat more like mixing salt water and fresh water. If you're careful and pour in the fresh water on top of the salt water, then you can make two layers (add a bit of food dye to one of them). Sir it once, and you'll get them mixing. Possibly more instructive if you use a coloured salt like Copper Sulphate - you can then see that once it's mixed, the Copper ions (much heavier than water) don't all drop to the bottom. The concentration gradient in an undisturbed solution could probably be measured, but to the eye it looks pretty constant.
What I should have said is that the gravitational separation of the gases is unlikely to make that much of a difference in real life.
Referencing the September 19 of 2012(Update
8) video:
Later analysis and refection indicates this first effort was marred by the gas injection process. The gas mix bottle is subject of strong gas gravitational layering do to the large differences in the atomic weights of the noble gases from helium to Xenon. The extraction of a proper mix of gases from the gas bottle is not possible, since the gas extracted is subject to the orientation of the mix bottle in space.
Maintaining the proper gas mix when stored in bulk is the purpose of the gas mix method defined in the Papp patent. The various noble gases must be processed together to be properly stored in a mix gas bottle. But even this method is in question as ineffective.
The only sure way to get the noble gas mix right is to inject each noble gas into the cylinder in five separate operations.
As revealed in the video of the cannon demo, Papp loaded each of the five gases separately into the breach of the cannon.
This evidence speaks against the need for a dedicated gas mixing procedure, only that the gas mix is applied to the cylinder in the proper proportion.
In the cannon application, there is no piston movement to churn up the gas mix, so once the gases are properly installed into the cylinder in the proper proportions, they will prove to be effective when the spark is applied to them.
Chris Zell states as follows:
The work of Ken Shoulders (EV's or charge clusters) appears to me to be the most ignored critical discovery of the age. It promises free energy and outright transmutation - and if you read his background and lengthy patent, it appears credible.
Also, a Russian scientist may have independently discovered the same phenomena - called 'ectons'.
There is also the work of Lawrence Nelson with screened electrons and a patented free energy device that generates 5X the input.
The Nelson patent
http://www.rexresearch.com/nelson/us2001040434.pdfThe Papp engine includes many of the principles that Lawrence Neldon explains. Papp goes through extraordinary efforts to pack as many electrons as possible into the cylinder including x-ray irradiation of noble gases. This includes constraining coils which act to keep electrons away from the cylinder walls.
As happens in the Papp process, X-rays will also be produced by the electron gun to break down metal crystals through ion explosion.
High electron density in and around the point of electron impact also induces coulomb barrier lowering in facilitation and amplification of the crystal ion explosion process in the metal producing a positive feedback effect.
The like charge repulsion rule is simplistic and not universally applicable when other stronger charge concentration mechanisms override it.