Complete VIC schematic and pcb

~Russ

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #426, on October 29th, 2012, 10:24 PM »
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 29th, 2012, 02:40 PM
i finish to assembled a different board
:)

nice work!!

it looks like you got one of everyone you can find!! lol nice work my friend! now you can compare them and show your thoughts on each! :)

hope you do so! god work! ~Russ


Lynx

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #428, on October 30th, 2012, 08:33 AM »
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 30th, 2012, 08:22 AM
Quote from Lynx on October 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 29th, 2012, 02:40 PM
i finish to assembled a different board
Have you tried it?
Did you get it to work?
Good job btw :)
Yes of course! I am doing coiled (coil style 1 of stan meyer).
It's not easy... 3000 spire x3 + 500 + 500 :(

If you have a coil winder under arduino. I am interest.

Alex
Thanks!
Do you also have a WFC ready?
Does it produce hydrogen?
Please let us know how you're doing :)

Jean-Alexandre

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #429, on October 30th, 2012, 02:24 PM »
Quote from Lynx on October 30th, 2012, 08:33 AM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 30th, 2012, 08:22 AM
Quote from Lynx on October 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 29th, 2012, 02:40 PM
i finish to assembled a different board
Have you tried it?
Did you get it to work?
Good job btw :)
Yes of course! I am doing coiled (coil style 1 of stan meyer).
It's not easy... 3000 spire x3 + 500 + 500 :(

If you have a coil winder under arduino. I am interest.

Alex
Thanks!
Do you also have a WFC ready?
Does it produce hydrogen?
Please let us know how you're doing :)
Ok
My contributions to the project of Stanley Meyer on picture
In this moment I'm just playing with your progress in the domain. But once my coil is finished.
I might be in annoncer result or not :)

https://plus.google.com/photos/109596636524884382415/albums/5804848306524471601?authkey=CN--0rrfrcyoUQ
https://plus.google.com/photos/109596636524884382415/albums/5744373964356251873

Alex

Jeff Nading

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #430, on October 30th, 2012, 04:35 PM »
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 30th, 2012, 02:24 PM
Quote from Lynx on October 30th, 2012, 08:33 AM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 30th, 2012, 08:22 AM
Quote from Lynx on October 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 29th, 2012, 02:40 PM
i finish to assembled a different board
Have you tried it?
Did you get it to work?
Good job btw :)
Yes of course! I am doing coiled (coil style 1 of stan meyer).
It's not easy... 3000 spire x3 + 500 + 500 :(

If you have a coil winder under arduino. I am interest.

Alex
Thanks!
Do you also have a WFC ready?
Does it produce hydrogen?
Please let us know how you're doing :)
Ok
My contributions to the project of Stanley Meyer on picture
In this moment I'm just playing with your progress in the domain. But once my coil is finished.
I might be in annoncer result or not :)

https://plus.google.com/photos/109596636524884382415/albums/5804848306524471601?authkey=CN--0rrfrcyoUQ
https://plus.google.com/photos/109596636524884382415/albums/5744373964356251873

Alex
Looks like some really good work there Jean :cool::D:P

Lynx

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #431, on October 31st, 2012, 10:04 AM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on October 30th, 2012, 04:35 PM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 30th, 2012, 02:24 PM
Quote from Lynx on October 30th, 2012, 08:33 AM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 30th, 2012, 08:22 AM
Quote from Lynx on October 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Have you tried it?
Did you get it to work?
Good job btw :)
Yes of course! I am doing coiled (coil style 1 of stan meyer).
It's not easy... 3000 spire x3 + 500 + 500 :(

If you have a coil winder under arduino. I am interest.

Alex
Thanks!
Do you also have a WFC ready?
Does it produce hydrogen?
Please let us know how you're doing :)
Ok
My contributions to the project of Stanley Meyer on picture
In this moment I'm just playing with your progress in the domain. But once my coil is finished.
I might be in annoncer result or not :)

https://plus.google.com/photos/109596636524884382415/albums/5804848306524471601?authkey=CN--0rrfrcyoUQ
https://plus.google.com/photos/109596636524884382415/albums/5744373964356251873

Alex
Looks like some really good work there Jean :cool::D:P
Thanks for sharing!
Good luck :)

~Russ

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #432, on October 31st, 2012, 09:50 PM »
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 30th, 2012, 02:24 PM
Quote from Lynx on October 30th, 2012, 08:33 AM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 30th, 2012, 08:22 AM
Quote from Lynx on October 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 29th, 2012, 02:40 PM
i finish to assembled a different board
Have you tried it?
Did you get it to work?
Good job btw :)
Yes of course! I am doing coiled (coil style 1 of stan meyer).
It's not easy... 3000 spire x3 + 500 + 500 :(

If you have a coil winder under arduino. I am interest.

Alex
Thanks!
Do you also have a WFC ready?
Does it produce hydrogen?
Please let us know how you're doing :)
Ok
My contributions to the project of Stanley Meyer on picture
In this moment I'm just playing with your progress in the domain. But once my coil is finished.
I might be in annoncer result or not :)

https://plus.google.com/photos/109596636524884382415/albums/5804848306524471601?authkey=CN--0rrfrcyoUQ
https://plus.google.com/photos/109596636524884382415/albums/5744373964356251873

Alex
some nice work as normal!!! thanks for sharing!! :)

also "If you have a coil winder under arduino. I am interest."

jeff, where is that ardino winder software that some one wrote?? we need to move it to the open projects part of the forum... so others can find it!! ~Russ

Jeff Nading

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #433, on November 1st, 2012, 06:30 AM »Last edited on November 1st, 2012, 07:24 AM by Jeff Nading
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 31st, 2012, 09:50 PM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 30th, 2012, 02:24 PM
Quote from Lynx on October 30th, 2012, 08:33 AM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on October 30th, 2012, 08:22 AM
Quote from Lynx on October 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Have you tried it?
Did you get it to work?
Good job btw :)
Yes of course! I am doing coiled (coil style 1 of stan meyer).
It's not easy... 3000 spire x3 + 500 + 500 :(

If you have a coil winder under arduino. I am interest.

Alex
Thanks!
Do you also have a WFC ready?
Does it produce hydrogen?
Please let us know how you're doing :)
Ok
My contributions to the project of Stanley Meyer on picture
In this moment I'm just playing with your progress in the domain. But once my coil is finished.
I might be in annoncer result or not :)

https://plus.google.com/photos/109596636524884382415/albums/5804848306524471601?authkey=CN--0rrfrcyoUQ
https://plus.google.com/photos/109596636524884382415/albums/5744373964356251873

Alex
some nice work as normal!!! thanks for sharing!! :)

also "If you have a coil winder under arduino. I am interest."

jeff, where is that ardino winder software that some one wrote?? we need to move it to the open projects part of the forum... so others can find it!! ~Russ
I'll find it and post it there.:D I think this is it
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=794

Jean-Alexandre

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #434, on November 1st, 2012, 10:23 AM »
thank you so much

for my futur project, i think that build a ciul winder.

Jean-Alexandre

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #435, on November 6th, 2012, 02:46 PM »
Hello all,

Just a last question.
How pluged a rang_frequency potentiometer (ref image).
The wire on pin of potentiometer ?
Pin on potentiometer.
A B C pin
&
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 pin
Someone have a schematic ?

reference of pot on farnell:
1123704

thank you :)

PS: sorry for a quality of image :). Father Christmas would bring me a new one.

adys15

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #436, on November 7th, 2012, 02:39 AM »Last edited on November 7th, 2012, 02:39 AM by adys15
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on November 6th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Hello all,

Just a last question.
How pluged a rang_frequency potentiometer (ref image).
The wire on pin of potentiometer ?
Pin on potentiometer.
A B C pin
&
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 pin
Someone have a schematic ?

reference of pot on farnell:
1123704

thank you :)

PS: sorry for a quality of image :). Father Christmas would bring me a new one.
I cant see clearly but if you have one pin in the middle that is the ground,and the rest are frequency inputs,just in lawton skematics,where he uses rotary pot on the caps for range

adys15

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #437, on November 7th, 2012, 02:04 PM »Last edited on November 7th, 2012, 02:05 PM by adys15
Hy guys today i build and tested Alex Petty circuit...it does NOT work at all!!!I built it exacly like in the skematic.Here are my specs:the skematic with 2 555timers,irf640 mosfet,1000 turns /24awg coil on ferite core,HV diode,water cap 3 inches long,1mm gap.I tried with a larger one 20cm long---1,5mm gap...the same result,it just steps a little the voltage from 5-7v on all the freq ranges.I used some 30 caps from a few pF to 470nF..nothing...The signal looks like a 50hz square wave signal and where the space soposed to be is (many waves,the freq of the caps) dont know why it looks like that, it is not keeping the signal output of the 4093,,I tried with a 9v batery,,,and little changes in the shape of the signal,Remember i build ''the simplest wfc energization...'' I also used a inverted transformer and 2 bif coils and from 30v output/no load i get 3v with load...so no resonance...Any thoughts????
Hy guys, today i build and tested Alex;s circuit...it does NOT work at all!!!I built it exacly like in the skematic.Here are my specs:the skematic with 2 555timers,irf640 mosfet,1000 turns /24awg coil on ferite core,HV diode,water cap 3 inches long,1mm gap.I tried with a larger one 20cm long---1,5mm gap...the same result,it just steps a little the voltage from 5-7v on all the freq ranges.I used some 30 caps from a few pF to 470nF..nothing...The signal looks like a 50hz  square signal and where the space soposed to be is (many waves,the freq of the caps) dont know why it looks like that it is not keeping the signal output of the 4093,,I tried with a 9v batery,,,and little changes in the shape of the signal,Remember i build ''the simplest wfc energization...'' I also used a inverted transformer and 2 bif coils and from 30v output/no load i get 3v with load...so no resonance...Any thoughts????

sebosfato

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #438, on November 10th, 2012, 04:49 AM »
Quote from adys15 on November 7th, 2012, 02:39 AM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on November 6th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Hello all,

Just a last question.
How pluged a rang_frequency potentiometer (ref image).
The wire on pin of potentiometer ?
Pin on potentiometer.
A B C pin
&
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 pin
Someone have a schematic ?

reference of pot on farnell:
1123704

thank you :)

PS: sorry for a quality of image :). Father Christmas would bring me a new one.
I cant see clearly but if you have one pin in the middle that is the ground,and the rest are frequency inputs,just in lawton skematics,where he uses rotary pot on the caps for range
look, if that is a 4 way switch, the A is associated with pins 1 2 3 and 4, B is associated to 5 6 7 8 and so on.

for sake of clarity in the 1 position A is connected to 1 B to 5 and C 9

regards

adys15

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #439, on November 11th, 2012, 01:58 PM »
guys !who has an acount on ''waterfuelcell.org'' ?I also had one and the admin.was disabled it.now i had to pay to register again.i ask you because i want the schematics that crux has.is under projects  bymembers section.maibe one of you can enter and find those skematics..Cheers!

Jean-Alexandre

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #440, on November 16th, 2012, 03:51 PM »
Quote from sebosfato on November 10th, 2012, 04:49 AM
Quote from adys15 on November 7th, 2012, 02:39 AM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on November 6th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Hello all,

Just a last question.
How pluged a rang_frequency potentiometer (ref image).
The wire on pin of potentiometer ?
Pin on potentiometer.
A B C pin
&
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 pin
Someone have a schematic ?

reference of pot on farnell:
1123704

thank you :)

PS: sorry for a quality of image :). Father Christmas would bring me a new one.
I cant see clearly but if you have one pin in the middle that is the ground,and the rest are frequency inputs,just in lawton skematics,where he uses rotary pot on the caps for range
look, if that is a 4 way switch, the A is associated with pins 1 2 3 and 4, B is associated to 5 6 7 8 and so on.

for sake of clarity in the 1 position A is connected to 1 B to 5 and C 9

regards
Ok thx sebosfato:idea:

Jean-Alexandre

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #441, on November 17th, 2012, 07:55 PM »Last edited on November 17th, 2012, 08:07 PM by Jean-Alexandre
Quote from sebosfato on November 10th, 2012, 04:49 AM
Quote from adys15 on November 7th, 2012, 02:39 AM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on November 6th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Hello all,

Just a last question.
How pluged a rang_frequency potentiometer (ref image).
The wire on pin of potentiometer ?
Pin on potentiometer.
A B C pin
&
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 pin
Someone have a schematic ?

reference of pot on farnell:
1123704

thank you :)

PS: sorry for a quality of image :). Father Christmas would bring me a new one.
I cant see clearly but if you have one pin in the middle that is the ground,and the rest are frequency inputs,just in lawton skematics,where he uses rotary pot on the caps for range
look, if that is a 4 way switch, the A is associated with pins 1 2 3 and 4, B is associated to 5 6 7 8 and so on.

for sake of clarity in the 1 position A is connected to 1 B to 5 and C 9

regards
I don't understand how pluged potentiometre range_freq on sharky board.
I have 5 positions in a sharky board (1 2 3 4 and gnd)
and the potentiometer: A (1 2 3 4) B (5 6 7 8) C (9 10 11 12)
I chosed  A1 B5 C9 ? but how pluged ?

Potentiometer|Sharky Board
[A1] => |1| RANGE
[B5] => |2| FREQ
[C9] => |3|
 ??? 4|
 ??? 5|

or

[A] => (1)
[1] => (2)
=> (3)
[5] => (4)
[C] => (5)
[9] => (?)

or

[1] => (1)
[2] => (2)
[3] => (3)
[4] => (4)
[A] => (5)

thank you for answer

DanB

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #442, on December 31st, 2012, 05:04 PM »
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on November 17th, 2012, 07:55 PM
Quote from sebosfato on November 10th, 2012, 04:49 AM
Quote from adys15 on November 7th, 2012, 02:39 AM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on November 6th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Hello all,

Just a last question.
How pluged a rang_frequency potentiometer (ref image).
The wire on pin of potentiometer ?
Pin on potentiometer.
A B C pin
&
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 pin
Someone have a schematic ?

reference of pot on farnell:
1123704

thank you :)

PS: sorry for a quality of image :). Father Christmas would bring me a new one.
I cant see clearly but if you have one pin in the middle that is the ground,and the rest are frequency inputs,just in lawton skematics,where he uses rotary pot on the caps for range
look, if that is a 4 way switch, the A is associated with pins 1 2 3 and 4, B is associated to 5 6 7 8 and so on.

for sake of clarity in the 1 position A is connected to 1 B to 5 and C 9

regards
I don't understand how pluged potentiometre range_freq on sharky board.
I have 5 positions in a sharky board (1 2 3 4 and gnd)
and the potentiometer: A (1 2 3 4) B (5 6 7 8) C (9 10 11 12)
I chosed  A1 B5 C9 ? but how pluged ?

Potentiometer|Sharky Board
[A1] => |1| RANGE
[B5] => |2| FREQ
[C9] => |3|
 ??? 4|
 ??? 5|

or

[A] => (1)
[1] => (2)
=> (3)
[5] => (4)
[C] => (5)
[9] => (?)

or

[1] => (1)
[2] => (2)
[3] => (3)
[4] => (4)
[A] => (5)

thank you for answer
You may have answered this by now but, it's a good time to bring this thread back to the top.

I think you are asking about the P7 connector on the board.
schematic shows 1,2,3,4,5 and you have a rotory switch to connect. The switch has 3 "polls" meaning sections that are electrically seperated but mechanically activated at the same time. Meaning when in the CCW position "section" A is connected to pin 1, "section" B is connected to pin 5, etc. When in the next detent CW "section" A is connected to pin 2, "section" B is connected to pin 6, etc. You will only use "section" A.

You need to Connect

P7-1 to rotory switch pin 1  >From U14B-4
P7-2 to rotory switch pin 2  >From U14C-6
P7-3 to rotory switch pin 3  >From U14D-8
P7-4 to rotory switch pin 4  >From U14E-10
And
P7-5 to rotory switch pin A  >Output to U15-1

Jean-Alexandre

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #443, on January 1st, 2013, 09:22 AM »
Quote from DanB on December 31st, 2012, 05:04 PM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on November 17th, 2012, 07:55 PM
Quote from sebosfato on November 10th, 2012, 04:49 AM
Quote from adys15 on November 7th, 2012, 02:39 AM
Quote from Jean-Alexandre on November 6th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Hello all,

Just a last question.
How pluged a rang_frequency potentiometer (ref image).
The wire on pin of potentiometer ?
Pin on potentiometer.
A B C pin
&
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 pin
Someone have a schematic ?

reference of pot on farnell:
1123704

thank you :)

PS: sorry for a quality of image :). Father Christmas would bring me a new one.
I cant see clearly but if you have one pin in the middle that is the ground,and the rest are frequency inputs,just in lawton skematics,where he uses rotary pot on the caps for range
look, if that is a 4 way switch, the A is associated with pins 1 2 3 and 4, B is associated to 5 6 7 8 and so on.

for sake of clarity in the 1 position A is connected to 1 B to 5 and C 9

regards
I don't understand how pluged potentiometre range_freq on sharky board.
I have 5 positions in a sharky board (1 2 3 4 and gnd)
and the potentiometer: A (1 2 3 4) B (5 6 7 8) C (9 10 11 12)
I chosed  A1 B5 C9 ? but how pluged ?

Potentiometer|Sharky Board
[A1] => |1| RANGE
[B5] => |2| FREQ
[C9] => |3|
 ??? 4|
 ??? 5|

or

[A] => (1)
[1] => (2)
=> (3)
[5] => (4)
[C] => (5)
[9] => (?)

or

[1] => (1)
[2] => (2)
[3] => (3)
[4] => (4)
[A] => (5)

thank you for answer
You may have answered this by now but, it's a good time to bring this thread back to the top.

I think you are asking about the P7 connector on the board.
schematic shows 1,2,3,4,5 and you have a rotory switch to connect. The switch has 3 "polls" meaning sections that are electrically seperated but mechanically activated at the same time. Meaning when in the CCW position "section" A is connected to pin 1, "section" B is connected to pin 5, etc. When in the next detent CW "section" A is connected to pin 2, "section" B is connected to pin 6, etc. You will only use "section" A.

You need to Connect

P7-1 to rotory switch pin 1  >From U14B-4
P7-2 to rotory switch pin 2  >From U14C-6
P7-3 to rotory switch pin 3  >From U14D-8
P7-4 to rotory switch pin 4  >From U14E-10
And
P7-5 to rotory switch pin A  >Output to U15-1
Thank you so much DanB.

enrev

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb (work in progress)
« Reply #444, on January 8th, 2013, 12:26 AM »
Quote from TonyWoodside on March 27th, 2012, 11:39 PM
Thanks Russ! I should have released all this info sooner, but like you said in your video today, sometimes we do stuff that we later regret. I had planned on releasing this months ago but I didn't want my guy Spencer to be mad at me about it cuz we worked on a prototype version of this together March of last year. Before we purchased the photo's from Don back last year, we had already figured out all the IC's used, all we needed were the correct resistor & capacitor values in the circuit. I will probably continue to sell the bare VIC Circuit boards with no components on my site for around $50 each, which that isn't a bad price at all.

Well if theres anything I can help ya with just let me know on here or drop me an email at tonywoodside@gmail.com
Hi Tony,
Did you finally decide to sell just the bare PCM?

Jul.

Gunther Rattay

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb (work in progress)
« Reply #445, on January 8th, 2013, 02:03 PM »
Quote from enrev on January 8th, 2013, 12:26 AM
Quote from TonyWoodside on March 27th, 2012, 11:39 PM
Thanks Russ! I should have released all this info sooner, but like you said in your video today, sometimes we do stuff that we later regret. I had planned on releasing this months ago but I didn't want my guy Spencer to be mad at me about it cuz we worked on a prototype version of this together March of last year. Before we purchased the photo's from Don back last year, we had already figured out all the IC's used, all we needed were the correct resistor & capacitor values in the circuit. I will probably continue to sell the bare VIC Circuit boards with no components on my site for around $50 each, which that isn't a bad price at all.

Well if theres anything I can help ya with just let me know on here or drop me an email at tonywoodside@gmail.com
Hi Tony,
Did you finally decide to sell just the bare PCM?

Jul.
If Tony doesn´t respond look there ... they sell a pcb for less than 50 bucks :-)

http://www.source-for-innovations.com/products.htm


Asl

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #446, on March 15th, 2013, 09:51 PM »
Hello,

I hope I'm posting in the right place ...

As I have said in my presentation, we also we work on our Forum on renewable energy and of course ... Meyer!

We decided not to start using immediately drawings of the patent but rather to understand what might be going on in that sacred cell.
Seriously, now we design a card that will observe the reactions of the cell (we're not even gas production) :



It will scan automatic frequency: every 16 trains, frequency is incremented. Upon a resonance or an increase amplitude across the cell is detected, we stop incrementing frequency.
Free us then manually change the frequency and / or make all necessary surveys.

@ + +

Sirgoose

RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
« Reply #447, on June 23rd, 2013, 07:19 PM »
Well I can tell you right now that by that schematic it's no wonder you don't get gas production. I very first thing I noticed is that by adding that voltage divider in the VIC circuit you destroyed all hopes of getting gas production. The Vic circuit the diode, two inductors and water capacitor will only work if it becomes resonant. Which creates a conditon that allows current to go to almost zero and lets voltage which is at a very high voltage now perform work. So taking that into account even if you have the resonant frequency of the cell, nothing will happen if current can't be limited. The VIC circuit will only work as is. Resistors waste too much energy, thus draw too much current for the voltage to take over and perform the work. The only way to get the reference signal from the Vic circuit is through the pickup coil.