Quote from Matt Watts on June 9th, 2016, 11:22 AM

the fact that 007 used a high voltage input (customized) power supply

from what i seen, the only " black box" is on the output.( dc to dc converter)  the input is simply straight from the amp...

Quote from Matt Watts on June 9th, 2016, 10:59 AM

IMHO, Negative.

Think about the stuff we learned from Dale Pond (Sympathetic Vibration).  Each strand of wire is acting like a guitar string and they are all resonating at approximately the same frequency, because of their length, thickness and tension.  If you change any one of those factors, you will have to perfectly hit on a harmonic or the effect will be gone.

So to me, adding more conductors is fine, but all the conductors must be as identical to each other as possible.  The half-n-half aspect of the copper core probably has to do with how the Lenz Law effect gets phase shifted out of our way.  I think 007 figured this out.  I also think the number of conductors we use should be a count divisible by both 2 and 3, which is why I suggested 18.

VBM:
  12 = 3
  15 = 6
  18 = 9

15 is out because we cannot split it evenly, but it may work with splitting 9 for the coil; 6 for the copper core.  I have no idea what effect this kind of configuration would do.  Maybe someone would like to try it and see.

yeah i can see this as an answer. however I'm not sure if it madders. only testing will tell...

good new is that 007 is now linked... talking to him shortly ( i hope)

~Russ

Quote from Gunther Rattay on June 9th, 2016, 12:22 PM

Is there a circuit diagram for that project available?

or the PCB and BOM?

Quote from ~Russ on June 9th, 2016, 12:28 PM

or the PCB and BOM?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0nfcBpbhqg

Based on the schematic I posted above originally from Verpies.

Notice Itsu can run this driver with no heatsinks on the MOSFETs--the reason being the lossless clamps capture and reuse all the reflected energy instead of frying the silicon or dumping it into resistive clamps.

What I'm getting at is this circuit connected to a decent size nanocrystaline toroid core will power the Rodin Coil with ease and you can adjust the output windings on the toroid core to get a pretty decent impedance match.  Then all you will have to do is match the output impedance on the Rodin Coil to whatever it is you use to collect the output power.  I can tell you this will be much easier with the Rodin Coil than it is with the Russian Grenade coil as seen in Itsu's video.

Bottom line is:  With this circuit, you shouldn't have to worry at all what the wire resistance is of the Rodin Coil, unlike when you connect it to an audio amplifier.

I should also note, if you already have a push-pull driver, the lossless clamps circuit can be added between the push-pull output and the toroid core, which is basically what Itsu did.  All you need to really change is to use bifilar windings on the primary of the toroid core.  Simple stuff.

I agree, there are better drivers than the audio amplifier. But it's a start. I definitely also think the rodin coil principle is related to both the Russian/Kazakh coils and the Tesla Pancake coil and it's funnel/tapered shaped variant.
Most likely there can be this "cold" electricity effect, which I think is standing EM waves interacting with the ether. I'm also pretty sure that wave and ether interaction has to do with magnetic (electron) spin interaction and propagation - which in turn is the cause of the "mass" interaction that we call gravity. These spin interactions are known in ferromagnetic materials as spin waves. Stanley Meyer refers to it in his docs and therefore it presumably plays a very important part in getting the HHO cell running, like we see demonstrated by thewaterenergy1 on youtube. They seem to have spent a huge amount of money and hundreds if not thousands of hours of work on it. So I think they definitely are for real - although at the moment they have gone "black" :-o

Hi friends
I am finishing to build my first bedinisg accordiing to beginners manual.
I am also starting to reproduce this rodin coil but I don't understand how this amplifier works as a driver and why.
Could someone explain me in simple terms? I am  really a beginner. ..
Thank you.

i am almost finished printing my coilform. if anybody close to me (alberta canada) wants a set printed, shoot me a line at jeremygwilt@gmail.com and we can work out shipping details.

a little bit of tweaking and cleaning things up then im ready to start testing  :)

Quote from ~Russ on June 9th, 2016, 12:28 PM

or the PCB and BOM?

it starts with a schematic how all components are wired, what voltages are used etc.

pg 3 and 4 of this thread have the .stl files and page 5 has some more for CNC

Looking goood.. We need to make those diode/SCR plugs to hookup to the secondary...

Nice work Jeremy!

that hot glue will melt... put some zip ties around that baby, how i did it seemed to work well.

nice work!!!

~Russ

PS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obvmC5gvlqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmGnvaYgIjg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kg-Wyqzk1Q

Thank you matt watts for the great model file :)
its a little bit rough but its fine for me :) (rough i think because of the printer)
hope i will be printing all night :)

Quote from AcidByte on June 10th, 2016, 02:27 PM

Thank you matt watts for the great model file :)
its a little bit rough but its fine for me :) (rough i think because of the printer)
hope i will be printing all night :)

what version are you using?
also, please attache the photos here on the thread,  that's best. else we get a lot of broken links.

thanks!
~Russ

Quote from ~Russ on June 10th, 2016, 03:55 PM

what version are you using?
also, please attache the photos here on the thread,  that's best. else we get a lot of broken links.

thanks!
~Russ

This is former 8
also finished printing ring 10
got alot of printing left lol

ok i will :)

jeroen

Hello all.
How is that coil supposed to be wired ? It's pretty unclear what 007 meant and he obviously didn't want to make it clearer. Did he ever send a drawing as he said he would ?
Am I right in assuming that all the individual strands, which are really windings, counteract each other - meaning that the current flows back in the opposite direction all the time ?
In total that would, at low frequencies, or at least out of resonance, give ZERO ampere-turns, while the current loop meter showed 2160 A with 0.8 A on L1.. ho hum.. ;-)
Also what about the shorted 6 wires in L1 and L2 (L1 and L2 are supposed to be the same). Are they just left connected in parallel (not shorted) or could they be part of the L1/L2 series circuit ?
It's pretty impossible to figure out for certain what he said and it's pretty hard to see the detailed wiring in the video..
Any ideas ?

Anyway there definitely are standing waves in this coil, otherwise it would not read 2160 A with counteracting turns. So that means wire length and interwinding capacitance is important parameters as well as using the right exitation frequency (the external cap has to match that too..).

Quote from Viking on June 10th, 2016, 07:39 PM

How is that coil supposed to be wired ?

I think pretty close to the way you have it.  Each bundle like below, with the start/finish swapped between L1 and L2.

My speculation is that the position of the nodes in the standing wave determine the level of amplification.  Which you may translate into:  There may be more than one way to wire this device to properly match the load you attach it to.

With the capacitor on the output side and the interwinding capacitance of the conductors themselves, you will in effect get an LC tank inside another LC tank--one running at a much higher frequency than the other.  The goal here IMHO is to actually put the carrier frequency on top of the lower signal frequency--reversed of typical Amplitude Modulation.  I've seen many Russian experimenters doing this.  Here's one example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa30TbM6wak

Does anyone know why
http://www.rodincoillabs.com and
http://www.markorodin.com is not working ?
Is it on purpose or is it being CENSURED ?

Quote from Matt Watts on June 5th, 2016, 01:22 PM

Attached Ring #11 with corrected tab inset.  The "A" version is a fix-up by 3D Builder, only use it if the non-"A" version doesn't work.


I'm just glad you didn't suffer a major setback being burned out of your house.

With enough of us onboard, (edit paraphrase - 'The Lord rebuke them')

Great job guys!

M@

Hi Matt and Russ, 

Can you please post these drawings in pdf form?  If you already know a way to translate stp or stl files into Adobe.ai, please point me to it?  In any case, we cannot see any dimensions.  You guys are way advanced and funded.  My shop is the dining room table, upstairs renting.

i see laser cut Instructable on how to make an Adobe.ai file for laser cutting services.  http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-create-a-laser-cut-file-in-Illustrator/

Thank you for sharing your files and learning.

Quote from Volty on June 11th, 2016, 09:17 AM

Can you please post these drawings in pdf form?  If you already know a way to translate stp or stl files into Adobe.ai, please point me to it?  In any case, we cannot see any dimensions.  You guys are way advanced and funded.  My shop is the dining room table, upstairs renting.

i see laser cut Instructable on how to make an Adobe.ai file for laser cutting services.  http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-create-a-laser-cut-file-in-Illustrator/

Since I have the original IronCAD drawings, can you list what formats your laser cutting software can import?   I can export to lots of different output formats.  I also recommend using one of my CNC drawing versions for laser cutting,

Attached is the 2D PDF and DXF formats.  I did not put dimensions on there.  They are however to scale.

Hopefully one of those will be helpful.

This is too hard

Quote from Viking on June 10th, 2016, 07:39 PM

Hello all.
How is that coil supposed to be wired ? It's pretty unclear what 007 meant and he obviously didn't want to make it clearer. Did he ever send a drawing as he said he would ?
Am I right in assuming that all the individual strands, which are really windings, counteract each other - meaning that the current flows back in the opposite direction all the time ?
In total that would, at low frequencies, or at least out of resonance, give ZERO ampere-turns, while the current loop meter showed 2160 A with 0.8 A on L1.. ho hum.. ;-)
Also what about the shorted 6 wires in L1 and L2 (L1 and L2 are supposed to be the same). Are they just left connected in parallel (not shorted) or could they be part of the L1/L2 series circuit ?
It's pretty impossible to figure out for certain what he said and it's pretty hard to see the detailed wiring in the video..
Any ideas ?

Anyway there definitely are standing waves in this coil, otherwise it would not read 2160 A with counteracting turns. So that means wire length and interwinding capacitance is important parameters as well as using the right exitation frequency (the external cap has to match that too..).

good job,

some kind of schematics,

basically that's correct, the only thing ( maybe its marked) but the L1 series as well as L2 all go the same direction. in your schematic there going back and forth? i think they should so all in a " loop" and not a "canceling" mode... or maybe i'm wrong... bucking coils?

and yes, parallel shorted coils... as long as each L1 and L2 are the same.  1:1 even in the shored coils we should be good.

~Russ

Quote from Adirondacks4me on June 11th, 2016, 12:12 PM

This is too hard

lol just sit back and enjoy the show :) hehe

~Russ

Does anyone know an antenna design guy that can take a look at this antenna / elaborate transmission line design ?
Would be helpfull with some input from somone that is experienced in that specific world of black magic.

Hello All,
Reviewing the 007 demo (who was "Q" in that one :P): 007 says that apart from the 2x6 "shorted" strands, the rest "is pretty much like Daniel", which when reviwing his (their) youtube videos show that the coil is continued (and not going back or opposing).
There is a lot of ampere*turns missing, which could be running in the 2x6 strains if they are really shorted.See enclosed drawing.
Also enclosed is a quick sketchup and calculation of the Q value, judging from the measured increase in voltage at the output, Q is 4.7 - which is on the average.