These principles

are very interesting,

as very similar to injector internal plumbing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW5lUZ1nhXM&feature=share&list=PLD870A0FAC63BA1BB

Stan and His Brother  were in the Navy and Airforce.

Dan
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Sourcing & Distributing Vital parts

 
Hi Forum Members

OK We are working this one as well for speed now to I am posting
pics

 Simple in Design and may pave way for others to push and work while
 with a suitable easy to adjust design as other more refined form
forms are completed,

If you can can base the first thread on standard thread size for chevy ford
( any ok for end  of Spark ignitor(spark plug with extended electrode)

GOOGLE SKETCH UP

please sketch up other parts with sizing and post in sketup file or cnc files
and we can get this one going

Should be easy and fast please support on this one  
as will work and be readily mass produced.

Note

For the little pc

I feel it should be ceramic to provide some insulation and atomize the hho water into mist

similar to what you see in
water injectors into boilers systems.

stan said 125 psi, to injectors  may be less bu take note!

It also may be cool to use a water/gasoline pump and mechanical
type pressure regulator so in effect it may only need 30-50 psi and it is regulared
to the injector with simple flange diaphram presure regular also post here.

Daniel
Sourcing and distributing hard to find parts
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POWER TO YOU GOD SPEED

Please push forward 11 cell work



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Fuel Pressure Regulator.

What is a regulator?

A very simple fixed pressure non adjustable regulator pictured.
This is a 3 port type. These have a connection to the inlet tract via the small pipe fitting on the right, to keep fuel pressure at a fixed value ABOVE inlet manifold pressure. >>>

A fuel pressure regulator is a small device with a diaphragm inside that maintains a constant pressure (or tries to) regardless of the rate of flow. Basically you can put any fuel pressure in, and get a constant "set" pressure out - however much the input pressure might vary. So a Fuel injected car for example has a pump that might run at anything between 150psi static, and 50psi under flow conditions in use. This is "regulated" by your fuel pressure regulator to (usually) 45psi constant (3 bar).  

I am posting this And more screen shots

EVERY LITTLE THING COUNTS. SO uptake is faster.

I encourage every one to share to all ,

 lpg , ecu guys ,hot rodders and mechanic installers.

As Attached .

DAn
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Thanks Dan, you're a gem

Quote from Lynx on July 22nd, 2013, 07:46 AM

Thanks Dan, you're a gem

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Remember to share to LPG fb,tumble,google + twitter and hot rodder sites, upload to you websites

 back it all up ! guys and re post it!

Dan

Hi Dog one . Your right that tubo and super chargers make power but back during ww1 they added water into thier 2 cycle airplane engines and it was said that they got a 20% increase in power. If you can get a voltage and current high enough to break down waters die electric it may be very exploive imho . Time will tell I bet . Your friend in Texas Edx Hemphill

Something is happening..............

 More Step by Step

This should help you get quotes and speed up items from CNC
Guys Global.

If you would like the excel editable version for your brand etc

no probs
please connect with me on skype and I will send it to you

skype daniel.donatelli danieldonatelli@hotmail.com


PLease post the CNC files formats as they come in

I hope this motivates you all to work on

(Air in Take Gas Processing Housing designs )
Drawing and 3d so we can get that started also

PLease see attached and Distribute it

Dan
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Quote from securesupplies on July 26th, 2013, 12:05 AM

...I hope this motivates you all to work on...

Yes, it does.
I like the format of your PDF.
It looks real nice.
:D :cool: :P

 Shaking the can

  Dan  Attached

first production offers

PLease check the stock material diameters and measurements  etc

danieldonatelli@hotmail.com
skype daniel.donatelli

Quote from securesupplies on July 26th, 2013, 11:16 AM

Shaking the can

  Dan  Attached

first production offers

PLease check the stock material diameters and measurements  etc

danieldonatelli@hotmail.com
skype daniel.donatelli

hello i would like to have some of the injectors.. is that possible at this time?hello all. do anyone know where the files for the cnc milling of the injector went??

i have a company in my town that are able to make the injector but they dont know the price before they have the cutting file.

thank you, and i dont know what format of the files they use

can anyone tell me how the error in stans dimensions was accounted for in the making of the injectors?
link shows the error

http://open-source-energy.org/?action=dlattach;topic=1586.0;attach=4382;image

amazing work you guys are doing too!!i calculate approx 0.121ml of gas/water droplets are in the active water splitting zone at any given time.

Hi there all,
 I think this is right in answer to your question about the length of the positive probe.
On page 2-2 plug housing, seal cavity is .993 to meet c bore cavity.
On page 2-3 water inlet housing check distance 2.685 to distance 2.675 on page 2-2
plug housing.
That difference is .010 clearance at the threaded end
On 2-3 the through hole is .395 x .250
On 2-6 the ceramic insert is .395 at the tip
The overall length of the positive probe is 6.625
On 2-4 the ceramic insulator is not a matching piece there is no discrepancy or space
not provided for. But there is one or two issues else ware just can't  remember where.
 Thanks, Scot

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Does anyone have a set of the injector drawings with the proper dimensions they could post?

The originals have a lot of mistakes...

this is interesting as it discusses the wave guide and  high frequency controls,

Whilst not stans design it sure does help to have the knowledge as you replicate from his patent

Quote from HMS-776 on August 9th, 2014, 10:03 AM

Does anyone have a set of the injector drawings with the proper dimensions they could post?

The originals have a lot of mistakes...

did you find those drawings?

Nope, I've got the originals but the dimensions don't fit together. I was going someone had a corrected version.

strange, here are the drawing that should be correct but the thing is that we are building from the original's and its fine?

look over this thred for updated drawings but the first post has some:

http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=552.0

i think there are updated ones further in that thread tho...

~Russ

Warning this topic no posts 120 days ????????????

The 120 days thing is no big deal, you can ignore it.

I don't see any water inlet port on these injector plugs, also didn't see any quenching circuits or hole for check valve ball.  How do you plan on getting water in resonant cavity?  Nice work so far, but I wouldn't call them complete. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aixCHPnXBZg#ws

any idea of a timeline for getting some gas out of the injector?

This paper has some relevant information relating to water between high voltage electrodes

http://www.rle.mit.edu/cehv/documents/35-Proc.IEEE.pdf

Since the voltage zone is 1/100inch ( 0.254mm) gap it would mean a break down voltage
of 3,810v or approx 4kv for pure water ( 15kv/mm break down voltage).

That appears to be quite a bit lower than stan was using. The pressure of 125psi though will influence the breakdown voltage ( the paper above may have enough info to work out the breakdown voltage at 125psi I will have to re-read the article and check).
 the breakdown voltage will increase with increased pressure.
see page 18 of article above ( under "pressure effects"), they give an example for water, for their particular setup at 67atm they get 608kv/cm at 1atm they get 413kv/cm breakdown voltages
( under very specific conditions)
So the pressure may play more than one role in the injector, one role being increasing breakdown voltage.
Also the inner surfaces of the gap should be very smooth( or coated) to reduce potential arcing sites.

Just another thought: once the water is turned into gas, the breakdown voltage will be different for the areas where gas is present between electrodes. If arcing occurs across the gap where gas has been produced it may ignite the hho and convert back to water. The high pressure might assist in some way by rapidly expelling the produced gas, but it might be a bit of a balancing act to get zero arcing and high gas production.

the higher injector pressure will encourage a finer vapor, but its my opinion when done correctly the cylinder pressure alone will be sufficient to ignite the mix,