Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system

phil

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #125, on August 12th, 2011, 03:33 PM »
Quote from dingis on August 12th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Quote from phil on August 12th, 2011, 02:24 PM
Good find on that pump mate, I was hunting around for that for ages. I had to settle for a swimming pool pump in the end, chose it because all the parts are non magnetic or plastic. Ive actually nearly finished mine just the electronics and ferrofluid now, ive had to wait for a spare motor to crop up at work. youve actuallly done me a big favour in confirming that red pump is for  liquid and not gas. Thanks. I dont really expect its goin to let me live off the grid but i do expect to see some sort of effect, at least to prove the concept. Maybe ill have it up and running in 3-4 weeks if you can wait that long, or by all means have a crack yourself, just bear in mind you could be adapting it for gas one day.
Hey phil,  yeah I think I'm gonna try to make one of these bad boys, and I was also hoping the same thing even if it runs itself and nothing else..ha, do you think the stainless steel shaft will have an adverse affect on the ferril fluid, even though it's non magnetic...  do you think I should get the smaller pump or the larger pump?  And if I make a ferrell fluid, those recipes you mentioned earlier is it a lesser ferrell fluid?  I wonder if before the magnetic driven pump he used this pump as a small magnetic partical turbine...he mentions something about that in the beginning of the lecture russ showed us.  and indeed gas seems like the way to go...but I was a plumber in a past life..ha and my brain feels like it's going to bubble out of my head so for right now I'm wit chew.
In Him
Bryan
Id say get the larger pump if you can afford it, because you can always dial the larger pump down with a speed control, but if you buy the smaller one you could find you need to up-size and end up buying two pumps

Russ has all the dimensions of the mech EPG so if you can find a difference in size between the two models just compare it with russes measurments and you'll be sure to get the right one.

I see the pump operating at a zero head height  as you will be backfeeding it in a closed loop i think it could easily overspin itself, hence another good reason for the speed control.

Ive not tried that ferrofluid recipe. Its just something i found. It will be cheaper, but it will involve spending a weekend stirring an oil drum size bucket full of nasty chemicals, tipping chlorine gas all round you neighbourhood. Cheapest I found for me was £150 for 500ml, whatever that works out to in  your country?

Keep track of the size of your coil and fill your pump body with water and empty it into a measuring jug to work out the volume of free space inside your pump. If you try and keep the whole thing under 500cc (ml) then 1 bottle will do. I tell you this coz i went over and have to buy an extra 100ml when i get round to filling mine.

I think the more sophisticated EPG's follw the red pump one, but if the red pump was good enough to make it onto the front cover of one of stans newsletters, then it must at least prove the concept.

Stainless shaft should be fine. Youve found the exact pump stan used, what you got to worry about? Good find! Most of them submersible pumps have magnetic shafts nowdays. Sure they r cheap but stan said non-magnetic so thats what i went with.

dingis

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #126, on August 13th, 2011, 06:50 PM »
Hey all again-
wondering a couple things...the red coating on the copper pipes.  is that totally necessarry.  also it seems that the dividers stan used to seperate the coils he also used to seperate the pipe where it is not covered with coil..  Does this mean that the copper is seperated with a plastic divider of some sort underneath the coils?  So if we use 22 guage wire and russ figured about two miles of copper wire and there are 76 coils about how many turns are we thinking....and are my fingers gonna hurt.?  Found my pump today, got el pipo...and looked at some classy ferrofluid...  hopefully I'll start this next week, oh and these secondary windings will have no core correct?  do I just wrap it over the pipe or somehow insulate it?  You guys are great love seein it all in progress
In Him
Bryan

phil

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #127, on August 14th, 2011, 01:59 AM »
Quote from dingis on August 13th, 2011, 06:50 PM
Hey all again-
wondering a couple things...the red coating on the copper pipes.  is that totally necessarry.  also it seems that the dividers stan used to seperate the coils he also used to seperate the pipe where it is not covered with coil..  Does this mean that the copper is seperated with a plastic divider of some sort underneath the coils?  So if we use 22 guage wire and russ figured about two miles of copper wire and there are 76 coils about how many turns are we thinking....and are my fingers gonna hurt.?  Found my pump today, got el pipo...and looked at some classy ferrofluid...  hopefully I'll start this next week, oh and these secondary windings will have no core correct?  do I just wrap it over the pipe or somehow insulate it?  You guys are great love seein it all in progress
In Him
Bryan
we wernt too sure bout the red coating or spacers, Russ soldered his , I used gripfill. Neither of used spaced out . Maybe some kind of heat shrink sleave would work. I think the red stuff is some kind of epoxy or fibreglass resin. Were not too sure what goes on under the coil. The copper wire should have an enamel coating so will be insulated. I think 1 secondary coil will be enough to pick up something either connect it to a voltmeter or scoped or less or low wattage bulb. If you get something off 1 output coil then wind more. Winding two miles of that will make your fingers bleed!


~Russ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #129, on August 19th, 2011, 12:57 PM »
Quote from dingis on August 13th, 2011, 06:50 PM
Hey all again-
wondering a couple things...the red coating on the copper pipes.  is that totally necessarry.  also it seems that the dividers stan used to seperate the coils he also used to seperate the pipe where it is not covered with coil..  Does this mean that the copper is seperated with a plastic divider of some sort underneath the coils?  So if we use 22 guage wire and russ figured about two miles of copper wire and there are 76 coils about how many turns are we thinking....and are my fingers gonna hurt.?  Found my pump today, got el pipo...and looked at some classy ferrofluid...  hopefully I'll start this next week, oh and these secondary windings will have no core correct?  do I just wrap it over the pipe or somehow insulate it?  You guys are great love seein it all in progress
In Him
Bryan
i think i will glue the pipe together, also will be placing a very small film between the pipe. i did solder the pipe but i will be un soldering the pipe... its going to be fun...

also im trying 250 ft of wire on each coil to start with and i will be using the EPG photos as a visual to see how much more or less wire i need...

going to take some testing...

cant wait for more progress!

~Russ  

~Russ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #130, on August 26th, 2011, 09:11 AM »
found the Manuel and will be posting some high quality photos of this pump with a video asap...

this is the pump :) very exciting !  

grate fined dingis!!!!

thanks to phill for a hands on look at this pump before i ship it his way!

~Russ

dingis

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #131, on August 26th, 2011, 10:30 AM »
Quote from Rwg42985 on August 26th, 2011, 09:11 AM
found the Manuel and will be posting some high quality photos of this pump with a video asap...

this is the pump :) very exciting !  

grate fined dingis!!!!

thanks to phill for a hands on look at this pump before i ship it his way!

~Russ
Lord willing my pump gets here today, ordered one up from plumbersurplus.com I called the manufacturer and He stated that the 180, 240 and 300 gph have the same inlet outlet/inlet size 1/2 inch pipe thread in and 1/4 inch pipe thread out, the B-500(500 gallon an hour) has a 3/8' pipe thread in and a 3/4" out but the 3/4 wasn't a pipe thread it was prolly a glue on fitting, for a filter.  I bought a 300gph pump and I was trying to imagine 300 gallons going through a 3/8 inch pipe in an hour....I'll prolly have to dial it down.  Bought 23 pounds of wire yesterday..ha it's a big-ol spool..and my spacers are done, made a jig, wow....  thanks stan....ha  just a tad labor intensive....  now onto the coils we will see how quickly seventy two coils goes...  gonna wrap em today...or some...until mi ol fingers bleed...  keep up da good work gents.  I'll send pictures later
In Him
Bryan

~Russ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #132, on August 26th, 2011, 11:20 AM »
Quote from dingis on August 26th, 2011, 10:30 AM
Quote from Rwg42985 on August 26th, 2011, 09:11 AM
found the Manuel and will be posting some high quality photos of this pump with a video asap...

this is the pump :) very exciting !  

grate fined dingis!!!!

thanks to phill for a hands on look at this pump before i ship it his way!

~Russ
Lord willing my pump gets here today, ordered one up from plumbersurplus.com I called the manufacturer and He stated that the 180, 240 and 300 gph have the same inlet outlet/inlet size 1/2 inch pipe thread in and 1/4 inch pipe thread out, the B-500(500 gallon an hour) has a 3/8' pipe thread in and a 3/4" out but the 3/4 wasn't a pipe thread it was prolly a glue on fitting, for a filter.  I bought a 300gph pump and I was trying to imagine 300 gallons going through a 3/8 inch pipe in an hour....I'll prolly have to dial it down.  Bought 23 pounds of wire yesterday..ha it's a big-ol spool..and my spacers are done, made a jig, wow....  thanks stan....ha  just a tad labor intensive....  now onto the coils we will see how quickly seventy two coils goes...  gonna wrap em today...or some...until mi ol fingers bleed...  keep up da good work gents.  I'll send pictures later
In Him
Bryan
that's correct on the inlet and exit sizes!

i do believe stan had the bigger size inlet and exit.

want to see those photos!

where did you get the wire? and what size?

thanks,

~Russ

phil

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #133, on August 26th, 2011, 12:15 PM »
Quote from dingis on August 26th, 2011, 10:30 AM
Quote from Rwg42985 on August 26th, 2011, 09:11 AM
found the Manuel and will be posting some high quality photos of this pump with a video asap...

this is the pump :) very exciting !  

grate fined dingis!!!!

thanks to phill for a hands on look at this pump before i ship it his way!

~Russ
Lord willing my pump gets here today, ordered one up from plumbersurplus.com I called the manufacturer and He stated that the 180, 240 and 300 gph have the same inlet outlet/inlet size 1/2 inch pipe thread in and 1/4 inch pipe thread out, the B-500(500 gallon an hour) has a 3/8' pipe thread in and a 3/4" out but the 3/4 wasn't a pipe thread it was prolly a glue on fitting, for a filter.  I bought a 300gph pump and I was trying to imagine 300 gallons going through a 3/8 inch pipe in an hour....I'll prolly have to dial it down.  Bought 23 pounds of wire yesterday..ha it's a big-ol spool..and my spacers are done, made a jig, wow....  thanks stan....ha  just a tad labor intensive....  now onto the coils we will see how quickly seventy two coils goes...  gonna wrap em today...or some...until mi ol fingers bleed...  keep up da good work gents.  I'll send pictures later
In Him
Bryan
I did a bit of calculating a while back, cant remember the exact figure but. I think the 500 gph pump will circulate the fluid in the epg 2 times per second give or take.

Also I found some info on the use of ferro fluid in transformer cores, seemed to be circulated to reduce heating. I think it was for big roadside tranformers used by power companies. really cant remember where i found it, could of been on the 'ferrotec' website.

There are different grades of ferro fluid, water based and oil based and the particle size and amount of particles vary. The one with the most particles was the educational ferro fluid.

http://ferrofluid.ferrotec.com/ferrofluid-home

~Russ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #134, on August 27th, 2011, 04:43 AM »
Quote from phil on August 26th, 2011, 12:15 PM
Quote from dingis on August 26th, 2011, 10:30 AM
Quote from Rwg42985 on August 26th, 2011, 09:11 AM
found the Manuel and will be posting some high quality photos of this pump with a video asap...

this is the pump :) very exciting !  

grate fined dingis!!!!

thanks to phill for a hands on look at this pump before i ship it his way!

~Russ
Lord willing my pump gets here today, ordered one up from plumbersurplus.com I called the manufacturer and He stated that the 180, 240 and 300 gph have the same inlet outlet/inlet size 1/2 inch pipe thread in and 1/4 inch pipe thread out, the B-500(500 gallon an hour) has a 3/8' pipe thread in and a 3/4" out but the 3/4 wasn't a pipe thread it was prolly a glue on fitting, for a filter.  I bought a 300gph pump and I was trying to imagine 300 gallons going through a 3/8 inch pipe in an hour....I'll prolly have to dial it down.  Bought 23 pounds of wire yesterday..ha it's a big-ol spool..and my spacers are done, made a jig, wow....  thanks stan....ha  just a tad labor intensive....  now onto the coils we will see how quickly seventy two coils goes...  gonna wrap em today...or some...until mi ol fingers bleed...  keep up da good work gents.  I'll send pictures later
In Him
Bryan
I did a bit of calculating a while back, cant remember the exact figure but. I think the 500 gph pump will circulate the fluid in the epg 2 times per second give or take.

Also I found some info on the use of ferro fluid in transformer cores, seemed to be circulated to reduce heating. I think it was for big roadside tranformers used by power companies. really cant remember where i found it, could of been on the 'ferrotec' website.

There are different grades of ferro fluid, water based and oil based and the particle size and amount of particles vary. The one with the most particles was the educational ferro fluid.

http://ferrofluid.ferrotec.com/ferrofluid-home
Phil, this was at stans estate: (see attached photos)

we don't have Any idea why it was there. if it was a test or some one else... but something to consider.

this same company still sell's this same bottle, even has a label...

if i bought some, this would be it...

thanks.

~Russ

phil

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #135, on August 27th, 2011, 05:28 AM »Last edited on August 27th, 2011, 05:30 AM by phil

Thats EFH1, its the educational grade FF from ferrotec, amazing magnetics are still listed as a supplier. Saturation 440 gauss, viscosity 6. Oil based. Still availiable.

Item 2 of 3........what were the other 2 items ordered with this.

We have an order number 11616.

I wonder if amazing magnetics would disclose any info on this order if you gave them the number. Like who placed the order, what else was dispatched with this order. When the order was placed? Was stan still alive? Mabye the price is a clue $122.88, when did amazing magnetics price their 1 litre bottle ate $122.88.

Dont know how you guys stand with data protection laws out there wheather they'd tell you anything at all. Maybe a little bit of a white lie....' Hello i placed an order sometime ago could you send me details the number was 11616? Looking to order the same stuff again?'

~Russ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #136, on August 27th, 2011, 06:43 AM »
Quote from phil on August 27th, 2011, 05:28 AM
Thats EFH1, its the educational grade FF from ferrotec, amazing magnetics are still listed as a supplier. Saturation 440 gauss, viscosity 6. Oil based. Still availiable.

Item 2 of 3........what were the other 2 items ordered with this.

We have an order number 11616.

I wonder if amazing magnetics would disclose any info on this order if you gave them the number. Like who placed the order, what else was dispatched with this order. When the order was placed? Was stan still alive? Mabye the price is a clue $122.88, when did amazing magnetics price their 1 litre bottle ate $122.88.

Dont know how you guys stand with data protection laws out there wheather they'd tell you anything at all. Maybe a little bit of a white lie....' Hello i placed an order sometime ago could you send me details the number was 11616? Looking to order the same stuff again?'
Phill,

funny, i already thought of this and did not pursue it... but if some one wants to give it a go, do it and report back.

The other 2 items may be 2 other bottles of the same stuff.

I'm one step ahead of ya! :) but we all have the chance now to look it up!

that's all i got... but i hope it helps!

~Russ

phil

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #137, on August 27th, 2011, 07:43 AM »
Quote from Rwg42985 on August 27th, 2011, 06:43 AM
Quote from phil on August 27th, 2011, 05:28 AM
Thats EFH1, its the educational grade FF from ferrotec, amazing magnetics are still listed as a supplier. Saturation 440 gauss, viscosity 6. Oil based. Still availiable.

Item 2 of 3........what were the other 2 items ordered with this.

We have an order number 11616.

I wonder if amazing magnetics would disclose any info on this order if you gave them the number. Like who placed the order, what else was dispatched with this order. When the order was placed? Was stan still alive? Mabye the price is a clue $122.88, when did amazing magnetics price their 1 litre bottle ate $122.88.

Dont know how you guys stand with data protection laws out there wheather they'd tell you anything at all. Maybe a little bit of a white lie....' Hello i placed an order sometime ago could you send me details the number was 11616? Looking to order the same stuff again?'
Phill,

funny, i already thought of this and did not pursue it... but if some one wants to give it a go, do it and report back.

The other 2 items may be 2 other bottles of the same stuff.

I'm one step ahead of ya! :) but we all have the chance now to look it up!

that's all i got... but i hope it helps!

~Russ
id have a go but call will cost to much from the UK and i don't think anyone would believe its for me with my London accent
The same bottle of ff is 166 dollars  now so i think the bottle in the picture is proberly not one of stan's

dingis

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #138, on August 27th, 2011, 08:38 AM »
Hey all.  here are some pics for ya.  I bought the ferro fluid from teacher supply they are on the www..  i sold a kidney and forked out 180 bucks..ha.  I went with 23 pounds of 20 guage and its on a spool about the size of a small child, it was like 8.fitty a pound plus a 30 dollar handling fee, from a company called electric motor repair in minneapolis...the man asked me if I was making a kite.....I said yeah somethin like that...ha.. I'm still thinkin that it might have been the smaller inlet outlet because the inlet of the 500 he said is smooth not threaded like the rest... could be wrong.  I have been many times before.  That pump is truly a little giant...wow heavy,  I changed the impeller housing direction so it matched his took like three minutes very simple pump, motor shaft is harnedned 440 stainless steel.  Question:  even though we are using the pump for this application, those coils on either side are lining up the magnetic particles right?  or are they further magnatizing the particles?  should I use an iron core, like what you are using on your particle accelerator russ?  Are you all using brass welding rod for those bus bars or where should I get that?  I put some photos of the epg in there for ya, it's messy right now, I'll clean it up, and shoot another picture..
take care all
In Jesus and for His name
Bryan

phil

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #139, on August 27th, 2011, 09:55 AM »
The ff in itself won't be magnetized, the coils make it become magnetic. Stan says it should work with any waveform, even dc. I think the coils should alternate nsnsns. Iron core will strengthen the magnetic field from your coils.
Russ will that 8xa you've been working on switch this mech epg as needed?

~Russ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #140, on August 27th, 2011, 09:55 AM »
Quote from dingis on August 27th, 2011, 08:38 AM
Hey all.  here are some pics for ya.  I bought the ferro fluid from teacher supply they are on the www..  i sold a kidney and forked out 180 bucks..ha.  I went with 23 pounds of 20 guage and its on a spool about the size of a small child, it was like 8.fitty a pound plus a 30 dollar handling fee, from a company called electric motor repair in minneapolis...the man asked me if I was making a kite.....I said yeah somethin like that...ha.. I'm still thinkin that it might have been the smaller inlet outlet because the inlet of the 500 he said is smooth not threaded like the rest... could be wrong.  I have been many times before.  That pump is truly a little giant...wow heavy,  I changed the impeller housing direction so it matched his took like three minutes very simple pump, motor shaft is harnedned 440 stainless steel.  Question:  even though we are using the pump for this application, those coils on either side are lining up the magnetic particles right?  or are they further magnatizing the particles?  should I use an iron core, like what you are using on your particle accelerator russ?  Are you all using brass welding rod for those bus bars or where should I get that?  I put some photos of the epg in there for ya, it's messy right now, I'll clean it up, and shoot another picture..
take care all
In Jesus and for His name
Bryan
Bryan, looks amazing.
One thing you need to do is re seal that pump housing to the motor housing… look close at stans… he had to also… check it!

Those coils in-between the pump and outer part of the EPG are the source of input power!!!!!!!
You will need to pulse them at the correct frequency to make it work. That’s the what I see it working anyway…  you can also find my lecture on that in a video I maid also.  

The pump just circulates the fluid/gas…

I’m using the magnetic pump type so your application is slightly deferent!
I’m using the PULSE FIRE box with the coils I have on the EPG.
Cant post the links to the videos here on this PC. I will post the links to the Coils I built so you can see how I built them.  Or, look at my pages on the EPG on the web site.

They have an iron core. Yes.
That EPG is looking so good Bryan! How much wire are you putting on each coil?

Also. What did you use to hold all the dividers on and the pipe in place?  
In his name!

God Bless Us All!!!

~Russ

phil

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #141, on August 27th, 2011, 10:26 AM »
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Heres my primaries, aluminuim endplates and aluminium speaker knobs with brass grub screws to hold them in place. 99.8% pure lab grade soft iron cores 1 inch diameter with a 10mm hole up the middle for the copper pipe. God knows how many turns but they both are exactly 4.96 milli-henries on my LCR meter, so ive got a matching pair. Ill probly try and run them off 50hz 12-24v stepdown transformer off the mains at first to see if i get anything before i think about higher freq pulsing.

~Russ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #142, on August 27th, 2011, 12:16 PM »
Quote from phil on August 27th, 2011, 10:26 AM
Heres my primaries, aluminuim endplates and aluminium speaker knobs with brass grub screws to hold them in place. 99.8% pure lab grade soft iron cores 1 inch diameter with a 10mm hole up the middle for the copper pipe. God knows how many turns but they both are exactly 4.96 milli-henries on my LCR meter, so ive got a matching pair. Ill probly try and run them off 50hz 12-24v stepdown transformer off the mains at first to see if i get anything before i think about higher freq pulsing.
sweet phill!

~Russ

firepinto

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #143, on August 27th, 2011, 01:49 PM »
Quote from dingis on August 27th, 2011, 08:38 AM
Hey all.  here are some pics for ya.  I bought the ferro fluid from teacher supply they are on the www..  i sold a kidney and forked out 180 bucks..ha.  I went with 23 pounds of 20 guage and its on a spool about the size of a small child, it was like 8.fitty a pound plus a 30 dollar handling fee, from a company called electric motor repair in minneapolis...the man asked me if I was making a kite.....I said yeah somethin like that...ha.. I'm still thinkin that it might have been the smaller inlet outlet because the inlet of the 500 he said is smooth not threaded like the rest... could be wrong.  I have been many times before.  That pump is truly a little giant...wow heavy,  I changed the impeller housing direction so it matched his took like three minutes very simple pump, motor shaft is harnedned 440 stainless steel.  Question:  even though we are using the pump for this application, those coils on either side are lining up the magnetic particles right?  or are they further magnatizing the particles?  should I use an iron core, like what you are using on your particle accelerator russ?  Are you all using brass welding rod for those bus bars or where should I get that?  I put some photos of the epg in there for ya, it's messy right now, I'll clean it up, and shoot another picture..
take care all
In Jesus and for His name
Bryan
The EPG looks very impressive!  I wish I had mine done that far. lol  Good job on the pump find!  I'm like a kid the night before Christmas, I cant wait. :)


KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #145, on August 28th, 2011, 08:18 PM »Last edited on August 28th, 2011, 08:19 PM by KevinW_EnhancedLiving
Quote from dingis on August 27th, 2011, 08:38 AM
Hey all.  here are some pics for ya.  I bought the ferro fluid from teacher supply they are on the www..  i sold a kidney and forked out 180 bucks..ha.  I went with 23 pounds of 20 guage and its on a spool about the size of a small child, it was like 8.fitty a pound plus a 30 dollar handling fee, from a company called electric motor repair in minneapolis...the man asked me if I was making a kite.....I said yeah somethin like that...ha.. I'm still thinkin that it might have been the smaller inlet outlet because the inlet of the 500 he said is smooth not threaded like the rest... could be wrong.  I have been many times before.  That pump is truly a little giant...wow heavy,  I changed the impeller housing direction so it matched his took like three minutes very simple pump, motor shaft is harnedned 440 stainless steel.  Question:  even though we are using the pump for this application, those coils on either side are lining up the magnetic particles right?  or are they further magnatizing the particles?  should I use an iron core, like what you are using on your particle accelerator russ?  Are you all using brass welding rod for those bus bars or where should I get that?  I put some photos of the epg in there for ya, it's messy right now, I'll clean it up, and shoot another picture..
take care all
In Jesus and for His name
Bryan
That looks amazing!

caccr2000

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #146, on August 29th, 2011, 10:21 AM »
yo la otra vez vi un sistema con una bomba sumergible conectada a una tuberia que a la cual le colocaron 15 mini turbinas de agua a 1 metro de distancia cada una al final esa agua retornaba al tanque principal para repetir el ciclo no se si sea viable pero lo vi construido en el peru como generador de electricidad.

I once saw a system with a submersible pump connected to a pipe that to which we put 15 mini water turbines at 1 meter from each end that water returned to the main tank to repeat the cycle if it is not viable but I saw built in Peru as a generator of electricity.

phil

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #147, on August 29th, 2011, 01:06 PM »
Quote from caccr2000 on August 29th, 2011, 10:21 AM
yo la otra vez vi un sistema con una bomba sumergible conectada a una tuberia que a la cual le colocaron 15 mini turbinas de agua a 1 metro de distancia cada una al final esa agua retornaba al tanque principal para repetir el ciclo no se si sea viable pero lo vi construido en el peru como generador de electricidad.

I once saw a system with a submersible pump connected to a pipe that to which we put 15 mini water turbines at 1 meter from each end that water returned to the main tank to repeat the cycle if it is not viable but I saw built in Peru as a generator of electricity.
sounds interesting. Could you do a drawing or sketch or do you have any pictures?

dingis

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #148, on August 29th, 2011, 01:23 PM »
Thanks everybody for the nice comments, it's coming along, I think stan was playing a mean trick on us making us do all this wrapping of coils..ha  Russ-I held the spacers in place with a spray adhesive, and just a word of advice for people wrapping these, make up a wedge for the top and bottom and clamp it between the next spacer otherwise if you tightly wind these coils those spacers like to creep, you could use another adhesive though too.  the predicament now is how many coils to wind I started off with 125, but ended up redoing that and going with 100 that looked better but I have 70 in my head for some reason, not too much not to little.    It is really hard to know from the pictures what He was doin, how many wraps.  when I took a measurement of my total width of the pipe I came up with just over 1 1/2 inches which was about what he had as a total thickness of his coils, so at this point I'm guessing.  Also should I go with the arduino circuit or should I try to build something similar to his?  I'll need some help in that field, if any of you have thoughts that would be great.  Thanks guys we'll get there
In Jesus and for His name
Bryan

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RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #149, on August 29th, 2011, 02:05 PM »
Quote from dingis on August 29th, 2011, 01:23 PM
Thanks everybody for the nice comments, it's coming along, I think stan was playing a mean trick on us making us do all this wrapping of coils..ha  Russ-I held the spacers in place with a spray adhesive, and just a word of advice for people wrapping these, make up a wedge for the top and bottom and clamp it between the next spacer otherwise if you tightly wind these coils those spacers like to creep, you could use another adhesive though too.  the predicament now is how many coils to wind I started off with 125, but ended up redoing that and going with 100 that looked better but I have 70 in my head for some reason, not too much not to little.    It is really hard to know fro the pictures what He was doin, how many wraps.  when I took a measurement of my total width of the pipe I came up with just over 1 1/2 inches which was about what he had as a total thickness of his coils, so at this point I'm guessing.  Also should I go with the arduino circuit or should I try to build something similar to his?  I'll need some help in that field, if any of you have thoughts that would be great.  Thanks guys we'll get there
In Jesus and for His name
Bryan
what I was going to do is make the epg and get the primaries and the pump running. Then wind 1 or 2  secondaries and switch the power on. If I got any kind of output then I would carry on and wind more secondaries.