Hi russ, I thought i'd share some things i found that may be relevent to your MPG and a few if my thoughts at the end,
http://www.teachertube.com/viewVideo.php?title=Eddy_Currents&video_id=78310 Eddy currents - check out the diagram near the end of the video eddy currents in a copper tube illustration, maybe the eddy currents act as some sort of containment field, containing a plasma?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3AiM1BYX-c Electronegativity/eletropositvity. the abiltiy of elements to lose/gain electrons.
www.fusor.net/ The Farnsworth fusor/multipactor. Outlines principle for fusing atoms together.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion Ions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionic_bond Ionic bond
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionization_energy Ionization energies. Shows how much energy you need to remove the electrons from argon.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-193544.html Vapourization of metal. Iron boils about 3000C.
http://www.chemicool.com/elements/iron.html Check out the energies of iron.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics)#Magnetization Plasma
https://www.youtube.com/user/keshefoundation#p/u/4/wtf5bp76ArE Keshe. Good info here 5 parts.
https://www.youtube.com/user/keshefoundation#p/u/7/zLaZnjk23HU Keshe. Plasma in a bottle.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keshe_Foundation Keshe. Plasma energy and antigravity applications.
Hope these help.
I'd like to share a few of my thoughts too,
I looked briefly at these patents a while back and decided the the gas was the key here, no point in spending time winding the coils with no gas right? It fell to the back of my mind and then i came across your videos on youtube and it got me back thinking again,
High voltage DC, not AC microwave oven diodes to rectify i got 4 new 12kv ones for £10 whatever that works out in dollars $15. You want to pull electrons off so you only want the argon exposed to one polarity, High voltage negative i think. We want to make cations and anions of argon and steel.
Hollow electrode for the argon, argon ionized on its way up the electrode.
Point hollow electrode at solid iron electrode HV+ , (this is what the dots on meyers gas generator patent may signify, it shows a cross sectional view solid/hollow, possibly a clue left for us to wonder how the gas gets in the chamber? Also in one of the patents is a device for burning a gas completly, egg shaped chamber, hollow core design)
Then deliver your argon slowly and it is completly encapsulated by the arc comming off the edges of the tube and all of the argon is treated by the metal coming off the other electrode charged in the opposite polarity like charges attract, you want negative on the argon and positive on the metal smash that argon and iron together. (Try switching polarities? Gap distance?)
The argon has a bonus of cooling the hollow electrode while you want the +electrode to get hot and vapourize, it takes a lot of energy to vapourize iron, maybe look further down the periodic table for a lower melting point magnetizable metal for the electrode Neo? Pure iron?
Argon dont ionize easily.
For the magnetization, look up how permenent magnets are made.
Heat a metal and cool it in a magnetic field, which is what we are doing with our arc.
The length of time the particles are exposed to the field may matter or the temp range that they are exposed to, ie magnetized from 1000c-500c? Id say keep it in the magnetic field as long as possible. (something called the curie or curing temperature rings a bell here)
To test for magnetic gas, fill a baloon and try and roll it on a flat surface with a strong magnet or maybe put some in a very lightwieght small plastic bag (the kind that crinkles up easily) and look for surface movement on the bag.
Now is this gas generator used to fill up the coils once? Do we need it each time its started? Does it stick on the side of the coil on a T-piece and the ionized particles are allowed to drift into the main coil. Does it fit in series with the copper tube and the arc is kept going until it becomes self sustaining?
What is the maximum pressure this copper tube will take?
Stan seems to use the solder copper pipe fittings not compression fittings, just for neatness or is it important the diameter of the pipe is constant and smooth?
I think copper tube is significant but i am gonna see what happens when i pump some crushed ferrite magnets in water thru a clear plastic hose. Put coils around it, i think the magnets will die in the crushing process, magnetic powder is available to buy, i figure if you can see the magnetic particles moving in the tube may help visulise what we are trying to create.
I heard talk of oval tubes in these Meyers MPG's. Check out a guy called Viktor Schauberger, he designed a kind of double egg-shaped oval tube that sustained vortex's. Do we want to create an ideal environment for a magnetic vortex to flow at high speed with low energy input? Or plasma vortex?
Shauberger talks of centrifical/centripical/centrepedal type flows, (cant remember the exact type theres so many centri-somethings), but when you get these two flows goin big things happen. Is this what we have here eddy currents/magnetic field from the secondary surrounding the magnetic gas moving through the middle in a vortex type motion. I know stan says the gas dont move but just trying to visulize whats goin on in that copper tube, somethings moving thats for sure!
Coil layout may be significant, some MPG devices appear to have multiple secondaries while some seem to have long thin all over winding for the secondarys. The all over type winding may be used as part of the gas driving or containment mechanism, it may not be a secondary?
I like the idea of catching the same magnetic disturbance multiple times, many free energy devices appear to work in this way.
Primary coil, think of it like one of those electromagnetic rail guns or a mag-lev train frictionless motion in a tube, you can get some serious push/pull by pulsing magnets quicky at the right time.
Iron core will only pulse up to a certain frequency then you have to move on to ferrite, iron dust or air as im sure you know.
Maybe a sequential pulse or like stan says any waveform.
Anyway just my ideas, Phil.
Dont do anything silly with hydrogen will ya.
Hi, me again. I've still been thinking about the magnetic gas, I repair automatic doors for a living and it involves a lot of time driving and that gives me a lot of time to think/meditate in quiet alone. So I got some more thoughts and bits and pieces I've researched/tracked down or I believe to be relevant, comments, call them what you will.
I've been on the quest for the free energy grail for 4-5 years now, and the one thing I've found is no-one gives away all the details in their patents to make any direct copy. But with that said, it IS the place to start and I take my hat of to you doing that. Ok heres my list.
Example of a gas joined with a solid.
Sodium(Na) + Chlorine(Cl) = Sodium Chloride = Salt = A solid.....NaCl
Iron(Fe) + Argon(Ar) = (insert name) = A solid maybe? =....FeAr.........FEAR gas lol.
Sodium joins with Chlorine in a crystal LATTICE as stan describes, but the end result is a solid not a gas. Iron's gotta be heavier than sodium, and I think Argons heavier than Chlorine.
Maybe you're gonna get a solid and as these solid particles cool in the magnetic fields these get permanently magnetised as described by stan. NANO PARTICLES.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_reactor - Makes Nanoparticles. Fullerenes, C60, by vaporizing graphite in an arc. Its about 15% efficient process. Gap and electrode size matter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminsterfullerene - Buckmeister fullerine. C60. Conducts electricity very well. Maybe FeAr magnetizes very well.
My physics teacher told me that most of the magnetism is inside a permenent magnet, if we could only get at it. On the nano particle scale we could be doing just this. But then again would all the permanently magnetized particles just stick together. I've got some neo-spheres and they just want to clump together, when i crushed a magnet, again big mess all clumped together. Didn't have much luck with ferro fluid but then i only had 30 ml of the stuff to play with. made a little MPG bout the size of a bracelet.
We could be dealing with a fusion style reaction.
http://focusfusion.org/index.php/site/category/C70/ - Focus fusion, Interesting electrode design. Focus your plasma at your iron? New elements created? Watch out for X-rays.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1518007279479871760# Video. Shows electrode design and plasma. Gets a bit technical but worth a watch.
The Tokomak fusion thing seems to be a bit of a white elephant that the government uses to waste time and money on.
So i'm gonna go off on a bit of a tangent here, suppose the device doesn't function quite as described, i'm gonna be reading between the lines a fair bit here and looking for a few hidden meanings in what stan says. Its really a bit of a collection of things I found on my travels researching plasma (after all, what is it between them electrodes if it aint a plasma?)
Stan says solid,liquid but preferably a gas. See the ascending order...What comes after gas...PLASMA. Plasma IS a magnetic gas! It has magnetic properties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UzyO-n_-HE - Plasma affected by magnetic field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aXc34rcTi0&NR=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSm8aR2W9O0&NR=1 Now I dont see a tin can for making gas chucked on the side of any of stans coils only that red thing that could also be a pump, so its either a fill up device, or my feelings tell me it was integrated into the coil somewhere.
All we need is Iron Argon spark/plasma in a tube. In the patent he says 'Evacuated'. Like neon sign tubes. Theres a neon sign dealer near me. Ill find out if they could fill a MPG with argon and then evacuate it, they do it to glass rods from scratch? Must be a fill valve of somekind?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas-filled_tube - Argon efficient, low striking voltage. Gas tubes air expelled, argon in, reduce pressure (EVACUATED), it will conduct better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd3j3wHi2QI&feature=related _ This guy can focus his plasma in his tube by varying frequency.
Are we dealing with a plasma core transformer. Electrode at each end of a tube then coiled. Gas is better than liquid. Plasma better than gas? Theres a magnetic component to plasma, right?
Plasmas moves like a gas/fluid. So we are kinda 'Hydraulicaly' pumping with the primary a LOT of magnetism a little way, just so the field cuts the secondary and out again.
Is that what the heatsink device of stans is all about, the one with the cooling fins in the centre? To bleed off heat from a permanently installed spark gap....pointing outward and runs the length of the tube..
Be nice to see your primary coil around a gas discharge tube, look for a pumping action in the plasma. Bit of a visual aid.
I see a problem with the copper pipe in that my instinct tells me the plasma will want to go down that at some point. But what if the plasma was focused down the centre of the tube either by frequency adjustment and/or being somehow centralized in the tube by its own eddy currents, allowing us to gather any magnetic disturbance on the outside of the tube in the secondary winding?
Is the copper tube one massive heatsink?
Not all plasma glows? you got 3 types Discharge plasma, Glowing plasma and DARK plasma. In that its there but you cant see it.
http://www.dapla.org/dark_plasma.htm - Dark plasma. Dark matter accounts for like loads of the universe. Could be it wont melt your tube?
Plasma - The primary state of matter. Do we just create a plasma in the tube and shake it about with the primary and collect the output in the secondary, a magnetic 'skin' on the outside of the tube. You can see in the videos that its easily moved by a magnetic field, and has strong magnetic fields, especially when concentrated. You get a plasmoid. I've found very little info on magnetic fields in a plasma..... could be someones trying to hide something?
http://www.28an.com/altenergypro/device04.htm - Plasma and a coil. I know theres debate over don smiths devices (it may be bullPoo , but its good bull Poo. ha ha) but here it is plasma and a coil, apparently this doesn't work in this configuration but you get the idea? Could dons other devices be focusing plasma in some way. Could the EV Gray tube be focusing plasma/accelerating particles towards its centre electrodes and taking off the energy? Faster particle=more energy? Electrostatic acceleration? Like a cylindrical farnsworth fusor?
I'm supposing different plasmas will have different magnetic effects?
Once we have a magnetic plasma its just a case sucking off the magnetic part of the plasma with the secondary. Im suspicious theres not more info on magnetic fields in plasmas, I smell a cover up. ha ha?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolaser - Add some laser energy. Found something else bout lasers and plasma but lost it, sorry.
Anyway this is all just guesswork based on things I'd come along the way and questions I've asked myself and kinda trying to put the jigsaw together a different way in my head and taking into account there are always details left out of the patents could be the gas generator is part and parcel of the MPG and the diagram is just to illustrate the process. And could the magnetic particle generator really be a magnetic plasma generator? I might try a coil round a fluorescent tube see if theres an effect on the light produced. When i got some cash ill go down that neon sign place and get a clear tube(no fluorescent coating on the inside) made and filled and evacuated with argon, then bung a coil round it and see what i can get the plasma to do.
Let me know when you got your website up, and if you wanna put up any of these emails on there its fine. I'm self taught. Someone with more brain power than me might have a eureka moment...who knows.
Phil..