Step by step VIC build

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #250, on April 7th, 2012, 03:35 AM »
Quote from Sharky on April 7th, 2012, 02:46 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 6th, 2012, 11:08 PM
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Irondmax said the permeability and separation adjusts is true. You get tested and see how varying the inductance varying the separation, but separation also has a second function works as air gap and is responsible for storing the energy that is transferred to the choke coils, the vic works as a flyback transformer stores energy when it has a positive cycle of the frequency generator when the pulse is not present all the energy stored in the air gap is transferred to the choke coils.
If you add separation, lower the inductance of the coils without touching the number of turns of the coils.
Danielgpalacios
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Ya Daniel, we'll just have to test all aspects of the core research, to really see what works and what doesn't, we will get there, we have to, here in Texas gasoline is almost  $4.00 a gallon, Jeff.
all theory's need to be tested!

$4.09 / GAL here... egh!
Don't know what you guys are complaining about, ... a liter costs 1,80 euros here, that would be $8.85 a gallon .... how about that?
hahaha you win you win! lol but... my $ is worth crap! LOL ~Russ

Jeff Nading

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #251, on April 7th, 2012, 05:07 AM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 7th, 2012, 03:35 AM
Quote from Sharky on April 7th, 2012, 02:46 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 6th, 2012, 11:08 PM
Quote
Irondmax said the permeability and separation adjusts is true. You get tested and see how varying the inductance varying the separation, but separation also has a second function works as air gap and is responsible for storing the energy that is transferred to the choke coils, the vic works as a flyback transformer stores energy when it has a positive cycle of the frequency generator when the pulse is not present all the energy stored in the air gap is transferred to the choke coils.
If you add separation, lower the inductance of the coils without touching the number of turns of the coils.
Danielgpalacios
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Ya Daniel, we'll just have to test all aspects of the core research, to really see what works and what doesn't, we will get there, we have to, here in Texas gasoline is almost  $4.00 a gallon, Jeff.
all theory's need to be tested!

$4.09 / GAL here... egh!
Don't know what you guys are complaining about, ... a liter costs 1,80 euros here, that would be $8.85 a gallon .... how about that?
hahaha you win you win! lol but... my $ is worth crap! LOL ~Russ
What country are you in Sharky, whats the cost of a loaf of bread and housing?


Muxar

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #252, on April 7th, 2012, 06:57 AM »
1,80?? WTF? i was almost crying for paying it 1,50 here in spain!!
Where are you from man?

Webmug

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #253, on April 7th, 2012, 07:09 AM »Last edited on April 7th, 2012, 08:13 AM by Webmug
Quote from Muxar on April 7th, 2012, 06:57 AM
1,80?? WTF? i was almost crying for paying it 1,50 here in spain!!
Where are you from man?
Netherlands!

Type ; euro/liter
--------------------
Euro95 ; 1.889
Super plus ; 1.959
Diesel ; 1.509
LPG ; 0.899

Br,
Webmug
Quote from HMS-776 on April 3rd, 2012, 06:53 PM
I agree Russ,

I feel bad about slamming them but it gets to me when I see people trying to make money off of Stan's stuff. Greed has hindered this tech for far too long.

____________________________________________________________________

So back to the project:

I have an update on the coils I'm winding.

The primary coil turned out to be 550 turns and 10.5 Ohms, very close to the numbers which were posted back on page 8. Calculations were very close also, the work continues.

Oh and those were great ideas on the step motor and the arudino. Those are things I have very little knowledge about, so thanks for sharing you guys!
Hi HMS,

Finished winding my primary and secondary coils.
Primary 30AWG; 550wnd; 2.049mH; 11.1ohm.
Secondary 30AWG; 2700wnd; 64.76mH; 70.0ohm.

Not so perfect I wanted it to be.
Looks like my windings are not so perfect and I have more wire on the primary coil and less on the secondary:@.
I will remove 5.80 feet; (1.77 meter) from my primary coil, should get 10.5ohm!

Copper wire AWG30; 0.10320528 ohm/feet (0.3386 ohm / meter) 20 deg; 68 F

I think measuring wire length going onto the coil is the solution to match wire resistance. Wire turn count is not handy to use for exact coil values.

Trying to modify a IR-encoder from a PS/2 ball-mouse and use atmega328p to measure the wire length.

Br,
Webmug

HMS-776

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #254, on April 7th, 2012, 02:17 PM »Last edited on April 7th, 2012, 10:40 PM by HMS-776
Webmug,

That's pretty close. It is hard to get a nice equal wind on the coils.
I use a small plastic card to push the wires into place as I'm winding them...I find the ends are the hardest and they can't be perfect.

I am going to wind all the secondary coils with an equal number of turns (around 3000-33000) and see what that gets me. Some of you guys may be wanting to match Meyer's bobbins and coils exactly. Experimenting is good....From the measurements and explanations of this coil it makes me wonder who wound the originals? Seems like the person didn't really put much attention to detail in them.

In Meyer's control and driver patent he states that each VIC and cell we are all trying to build can split 5 gallons of water per hour. One gallon of water contains about 4700 liters of hydrogen and 2350 liters of oxygen. Times this by 5 and you get over 35,000 liters of gas which comes up to 600 liters per mintue...

These numbers seem high. I tend to think the statement Meyer made in that patent about 5 gallons per hour was strictly theoretical!


~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #255, on April 9th, 2012, 11:06 PM »Last edited on April 9th, 2012, 11:38 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
guys. i think i found out that the FB coil needs to be bifilar warped... may not? but by looking at my measurements and dons info it seems that the feed back coils is bifilar. otherwise the inductance would be off... ??? one coil would be less turns at a distance from the core ans the other more turns closer to the core. this would throw off the the inductance... or it could make it just right... the .4 ohms defiance is only like 1 foot of wire?

what is your thoughts??? im wrapping one now to see what happens. bifilar.

also. my measurements on the C1 and C2... the turn counts are swopped... just seen that! ill re upload the excel sheet data once i'm done fixing the FB coil.

PS>

the  5 gallons per hour has always been something to talk about...

some one should start a thread on that subject... ( there may be one already...)


~Russ

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #256, on April 9th, 2012, 11:10 PM »
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Finished winding my primary and secondary coils.
Primary 30AWG; 550wnd; 2.049mH; 11.1ohm.
Secondary 30AWG; 2700wnd; 64.76mH; 70.0ohm.
how are you winding these? by hand and trying to get every layer perfect ???

just trying to compare my coil with yours... i just went at it with a drill! lol

i also think that the turns count needs to be just a way to get you close...

thanks! ~Russ

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #257, on April 10th, 2012, 01:20 AM »Last edited on April 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 9th, 2012, 11:06 PM
guys. i think i found out that the FB coil needs to be bifilar warped... may not? but by looking at my measurements and dons info it seems that the feed back coils is bifilar. otherwise the inductance would be off... ??? one coil would be less turns at a distance from the core ans the other more turns closer to the core. this would throw off the the inductance... or it could make it just right... the .4 ohms defiance is only like 1 foot of wire?

what is your thoughts??? im wrapping one now to see what happens. bifilar.

also. my measurements on the C1 and C2... the turn counts are swopped... just seen that! ill re upload the excel sheet data once i'm done fixing the FB coil.


~Russ
well... here it is: looks good: all most dead on:

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                                                         Feedback 1 Feed back 2
wire resantce on air core (100hz) 11.507 @ .1884Q 11.501 @ .1884Q
wire resantce on air core (120hz) 11.682 @ .3360Q 11.675 @ .2261Q
wire resantce on air core (1khz) 50.54 @ 1.8827Q 50.51 @ 1.8828Q
wire resantce on air core (10khz) 3.6893K @ 17.524Q 3.693K @ 17.590Q
inductance on air core (100hz) 3.332mh @ .1884Q 3.331mh @ 1.885Q
inductance on air core(120hz) 3.332mh @ .2261Q 3.330mh @ .2262Q
inductance on air core (1khz) 3.332mh @ 1.8829Q 3.330mh @ 1.8842Q
inductance on air core (10khz) 3.339mh @ 17.510Q 3.335mh @ 17.555Q
capacitance on air core(100hz) 26.05uf @ 5.3077Q 26.12uf @ 5.3015Q
capacitance on air core(120hz) 25.66uf @ 4.4240Q 25.73uf @ 4.4180Q
capacitance on air core (1khz) 5.928uf @ .5311Q 5.935uf @ .5305Q
capacitance on air core(10khz) 75.62nf @ .0570Q 75.70nf @ .0579Q
wire resantce on air core (fluke) 11.3 11.3



and stans:
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Coil Feedback1 Feedback2
Thick in 0.0155 0.0155
R (Fluke) Ohms 11.5 11.1
R(BK) @100Hz Ohms 12 11.58
R(BK) @120Hz Ohms 12.14 11.74
R(BK) @ 1kHz Ohms 49.35 51.5
R(BK) @ 10kHz Ohms 3.22k 3.42k
L(BK) @100Hz H 3.47mH @ 0.188Q 3.43mH @ 0.192Q
L(BK) @120Hz H 3.3mH @ 0.214Q 3.34mH @ 0.225Q
L(BK) @ 1kHz H 3.3mH @ 1.8Q 3.36mH @ 1.89Q
L(BK) @ 10kHz H 3.3mH @ 16Q 3.34mH @ 16.8Q
C(BK) @100Hz F 23.7uF @ 5.61D 25.86uF @ 5.34D
C(BK) @120Hz F 23.3uF @ 4.67D 25.5uF @ 4.42D
C(BK) @ 1kHz F 5.75uF @ 0.552D 5.82uF 0.524D
C(BK) @ 10kHz F 83nF @ 0.061D 81.85nF @ 0.059D


looks good but i think it still may come out close when warped the other way...

also added my cell and stans measurements in the ecxell...

~Russ

updated on this post:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=170&pid=3580#pid3580

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my CELL
resantce (100hz) 3.701k @ .0064Q
 resantce (120hz) 3.687k @ .0063Q
 resantce (1khz) 3.656k @ .0355
 resantce (10khz) 3.751k @ .3226Q
inductance (100hz) 35.44mh @ .0061Q
inductance (120hz) 29.26mh @ .0060Q
inductance (1khz) 20.30mh @ .0351Q
inductance (10khz) 17.19mh @ .3191Q
capacitance (100hz) 2.6nf @ 166.17Q
capacitance  (120hz) 2.16nf @ 167.14Q
capacitance (1khz) 153pf @ 28.5Q
capacitance (10khz) 1360.8pf @ 3.1466Q
resantce (fluke) 330k
Z (100hz) 3.661k @ .0062Q
Z (120hz) 3.658k @ .0061Q
Z (1khz) 3.632k @ .0353Q
Z (10khz) 3.556k @ .3203

Webmug

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #258, on April 10th, 2012, 02:38 AM »Last edited on April 10th, 2012, 02:58 AM by Webmug
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 10th, 2012, 01:20 AM
my CELL    
resantce (100hz)   3.701k @ .0064Q
 resantce (120hz)   3.687k @ .0063Q
resantce (1khz)   3.656k @ .0355
 resantce (10khz)   3.751k @ .3226Q

inductance (100hz)   35.44mh @ .0061Q
inductance (120hz)   29.26mh @ .0060Q
inductance (1khz)   20.30mh @ .0351Q
inductance (10khz)   17.19mh @ .3191Q
capacitance (100hz)   2.6nf @ 166.17Q
capacitance  (120hz)   2.16nf @ 167.14Q
capacitance (1khz)   153pf @ 28.5Q
capacitance (10khz)   1360.8pf @ 3.1466Q

resantce (fluke)   330k
Z (100hz)   3.661k @ .0062Q
Z (120hz)   3.658k @ .0061Q
Z (1khz)   3.632k @ .0353Q
Z (10khz)   3.556k @ .3203
Quote from Webmug on April 3rd, 2012, 10:27 AM
Major problem are the design parameters, what kind of cell is used (capacitance) and type of water (resistance).

We can have UNIPOLAR pulses with a resistance of 3kOhm for the 1100mH chokes
and using tap water (3kOhm/475nF/1100mH), theoretically speaking!

Br,
Webmug
Great measurements, Russ! Thanks.

Looks like the resistance is what I expected it should be between the WATER GAP exciters.

BUT... :exclamation:

Question: what type of water did you use in the WFC, the C values have different range compared with Dynodon's measurements?
Tap water should be 5.72uF (1kHz); 288.5nF (10kHz)
Distilled 25nF(1kHz); ...nF (10kHz);

Br,
Webmug
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 9th, 2012, 11:10 PM
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Finished winding my primary and secondary coils.
Primary 30AWG; 550wnd; 2.049mH; 11.1ohm.
Secondary 30AWG; 2700wnd; 64.76mH; 70.0ohm.
how are you winding these? by hand and trying to get every layer perfect ???

just trying to compare my coil with yours... i just went at it with a drill! lol

i also think that the turns count needs to be just a way to get you close...

thanks! ~Russ
Yes, I wind the coils with my drill setup. So not perfect layered.

It is important to get the values close as possible. Almost impossible to get it equal values.
The PLL should solve the resonance tuning if we are little off inductance/capacitance.

What really matters are the chokes (tuning equal but opposite voltages) connected to the wfc.

Br,
Webmug

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #259, on April 10th, 2012, 03:04 AM »
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Question: what type of water did you use in the WFC,
yeah... forgot that part... im using distilled... but there may be contaminants in the cell and also its not conditioned... like Stans cell was... so its may be different... also, cap values change drastically all the time with just slight changes in the water... and when there is bubbles and such... its crazy how much much changes.  

also
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Finished winding my primary and secondary coils.
    Primary 30AWG; 550wnd; 2.049mH; 11.1ohm.
    Secondary 30AWG; 2700wnd; 64.76mH; 70.0ohm.
how are you winding these? by hand and trying to get every layer perfect ???

just trying to compare my coil with yours... i just went at it with a drill! lol

i also think that the turns count needs to be just a way to get you close...

thanks! ~Russ

Webmug

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #260, on April 10th, 2012, 03:14 AM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 10th, 2012, 03:04 AM
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Question: what type of water did you use in the WFC,
yeah... forgot that part... im using distilled... but there may be contaminants in the cell and also its not conditioned... like Stans cell was... so its may be different... also, cap values change drastically all the time with just slight changes in the water... and when there is bubbles and such... its crazy how much much changes.  

also
Quote
Finished winding my primary and secondary coils.
    Primary 30AWG; 550wnd; 2.049mH; 11.1ohm.
    Secondary 30AWG; 2700wnd; 64.76mH; 70.0ohm.
how are you winding these? by hand and trying to get every layer perfect ???

just trying to compare my coil with yours... i just went at it with a drill! lol

i also think that the turns count needs to be just a way to get you close...

thanks! ~Russ
Distilled, oh my!:huh: Not really KISS is it?

Just poor some tap water in it and do the measurements again, please.
The WFC capacitance is too small for the chokes if we are using distilled water.

The exciters are conditioned? Not heard this before, why would you do this?
The contaminants are handled by the PLL circuit and capacitance is changing little but it C (resonant frequency) is in range of the scanner if you use tap water!

Thanks!

Br,
Webmug

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #261, on April 10th, 2012, 03:26 AM »
Webmug, did you post this? if so whats my answer?
Quote
Finished winding my primary and secondary coils.
    Primary 30AWG; 550wnd; 2.049mH; 11.1ohm.
    Secondary 30AWG; 2700wnd; 64.76mH; 70.0ohm.
how are you winding these? by hand and trying to get every layer perfect ???

just trying to compare my coil with yours... i just went at it with a drill! lol

i also think that the turns count needs to be just a way to get you close...

thanks! ~Russ



Webmug

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #262, on April 10th, 2012, 03:58 AM »Last edited on April 10th, 2012, 04:23 AM by Webmug
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 10th, 2012, 03:26 AM
Webmug, did you post this? if so whats my answer?
Quote
Finished winding my primary and secondary coils.
    Primary 30AWG; 550wnd; 2.049mH; 11.1ohm.
    Secondary 30AWG; 2700wnd; 64.76mH; 70.0ohm.
how are you winding these? by hand and trying to get every layer perfect ???

just trying to compare my coil with yours... i just went at it with a drill! lol

i also think that the turns count needs to be just a way to get you close...

thanks! ~Russ
Yes, my post.
I wind the coils with my drill setup. So not perfect layered.

It is important to get the values close as possible. Almost impossible to get it equal values.
The PLL should solve the resonance tuning if we are little off inductance/capacitance.

What really matters are the chokes (tuning equal but opposite voltages) connected to the wfc.

Br,
Webmug


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WFC Russ
capacitance (1khz) 153pf @ 28.5Q
capacitance (10khz) 1360.8pf @ 3.1466Q

Russ, is your measurement on 10kHz value correct in distilled water? (too high)

Rain water should have almost the same capacitance value.

When I calculate the choke POS, the resonant frequency is 11.8kHz.
(1200mH; 153pF; 3.75kOhm)

Thinking:
So if you can get double pulse we have to drive it with halve the frequency (5.9kHz), I guess??

If you drive the secondary and get 200Vpp AC on resonance and run it with the resonant choke you have 6kV Vmax. and 6kV Vmin. (calculated).

Looks like the self-resonance frequency of my secondary is 14.2kHz. So then my Cp is 120pF!!!! with 1047mH;
What if C wfc < Cp chokes?

Hmmm...:exclamation:

Br,
Webmug

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #263, on April 10th, 2012, 04:33 AM »Last edited on April 10th, 2012, 04:35 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from Webmug on April 10th, 2012, 03:58 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 10th, 2012, 03:26 AM
Webmug, did you post this? if so whats my answer?
Quote
Finished winding my primary and secondary coils.
    Primary 30AWG; 550wnd; 2.049mH; 11.1ohm.
    Secondary 30AWG; 2700wnd; 64.76mH; 70.0ohm.
how are you winding these? by hand and trying to get every layer perfect ???

just trying to compare my coil with yours... i just went at it with a drill! lol

i also think that the turns count needs to be just a way to get you close...

thanks! ~Russ
Yes, my post.
I wind the coils with my drill setup. So not perfect layered.

It is important to get the values close as possible. Almost impossible to get it equal values.
The PLL should solve the resonance tuning if we are little off inductance/capacitance.

What really matters are the chokes (tuning equal but opposite voltages) connected to the wfc.

Br,
Webmug


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WFC Russ
capacitance (1khz) 153pf @ 28.5Q
capacitance (10khz) 1360.8pf @ 3.1466Q
Russ, is your measurement on 10kHz value correct in distilled water? (too high)

Rain water should have almost the same capacitance value.

When I calculate the choke POS, the resonant frequency is 11.8kHz.
(1200mH; 153pF; 3.75kOhm)

Thinking:
So if you can get double pulse we have to drive it with halve the frequency (5.9kHz), I guess??

If you drive the secondary and get 200Vpp AC on resonance and run it with the resonant choke you have 6kV Vmax. and 6kV Vmin. (calculated).

Looks like the self-resonance frequency of my secondary is 14.2kHz. So then my Cp is 120pF!!!! with 1047mH;
What if C wfc < Cp chokes?

Hmmm...:exclamation:

Br,
Webmug
hummm, ok, yes i will re due the measurements with tap water...

also. one thing that my be a prob is that i can set my LRC meter to series or parallel... i think on normal LRC meter its all ready set... so like on the coils i had to switch to from series to parallel to get the correct measurements..."meter on PAL for R and C but set on SER for L" on my coil measurements...  the  so i may have the wrong setting for the cap... :) that i can play with more later...

~Russ

Webmug

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #264, on April 10th, 2012, 07:58 AM »Last edited on April 11th, 2012, 12:20 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 10th, 2012, 04:33 AM
Quote from Webmug on April 10th, 2012, 03:58 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 10th, 2012, 03:26 AM
Webmug, did you post this? if so whats my answer?
Quote
Finished winding my primary and secondary coils.
    Primary 30AWG; 550wnd; 2.049mH; 11.1ohm.
    Secondary 30AWG; 2700wnd; 64.76mH; 70.0ohm.
how are you winding these? by hand and trying to get every layer perfect ???

just trying to compare my coil with yours... i just went at it with a drill! lol

i also think that the turns count needs to be just a way to get you close...

thanks! ~Russ
Yes, my post.
I wind the coils with my drill setup. So not perfect layered.

It is important to get the values close as possible. Almost impossible to get it equal values.
The PLL should solve the resonance tuning if we are little off inductance/capacitance.

What really matters are the chokes (tuning equal but opposite voltages) connected to the wfc.

Br,
Webmug


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WFC Russ
capacitance (1khz) 153pf @ 28.5Q
capacitance (10khz) 1360.8pf @ 3.1466Q
Russ, is your measurement on 10kHz value correct in distilled water? (too high)

Rain water should have almost the same capacitance value.

When I calculate the choke POS, the resonant frequency is 11.8kHz.
(1200mH; 153pF; 3.75kOhm)

Thinking:
So if you can get double pulse we have to drive it with halve the frequency (5.9kHz), I guess??

If you drive the secondary and get 200Vpp AC on resonance and run it with the resonant choke you have 6kV Vmax. and 6kV Vmin. (calculated).

Looks like the self-resonance frequency of my secondary is 14.2kHz. So then my Cp is 120pF!!!! with 1047mH;
What if C wfc < Cp chokes?

Hmmm...:exclamation:

Br,
Webmug
hummm, ok, yes i will re due the measurements with tap water...

also. one thing that my be a prob is that i can set my LRC meter to series or parallel... i think on normal LRC meter its all ready set... so like on the coils i had to switch to from series to parallel to get the correct measurements..."meter on PAL for R and C but set on SER for L" on my coil measurements...  the  so i may have the wrong setting for the cap... :) that i can play with more later...

~Russ
If we want to know it for sure do both measurements: series and than also parallel :cool:
http://kb.bkprecision.com/questions.php?questionid=22

Tap water should give lower resistance, you think also?
Rain water is almost the same as distilled water.

What do you think, did Stan boil and condensed the water for the WFC?
The steam resonator also works with distilled-, tap-, rain water and or did he mixed them all in the cavity? :D

Thanks!

Br,
Webmug

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #265, on April 11th, 2012, 12:39 AM »
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If we want to know it for sure do both measurements: series and than also parallel :cool:
http://kb.bkprecision.com/questions.php?questionid=22

Tap water should give lower resistance, you think also?
Rain water is almost the same as distilled water.

What do you think, did Stan boil and condensed the water for the WFC?
The steam resonator also works with distilled-, tap-, rain water and or did he mixed them all in the cavity? :D

Thanks!

Br,
Webmug
good link. thanks. i will try both. and also different water... thanks ~Russ

adys15

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #266, on April 18th, 2012, 07:16 PM »


Trying to modify a IR-encoder from a PS/2 ball-mouse and use atmega328p to measure the wire length.

Br,
Webmug[/quote]can you give more info about that?video?something?


securesupplies

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #268, on April 20th, 2012, 02:53 PM »Last edited on April 22nd, 2012, 12:05 AM by securesupplies
note
from stans last letter

Dan

securesupplies

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #269, on April 22nd, 2012, 01:17 AM »
More summary more specs,

please comment and will adjust or add to it.

Dan

Gunther Rattay

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #270, on April 25th, 2012, 06:32 PM »Last edited on April 26th, 2012, 02:07 AM by bussi04
Quote from HMS-776 on March 27th, 2012, 08:09 PM
What do you guys recommend/use as far as oscilloscopes and HV probes are concerned?

I have been looking at the Parallax Propscope (USB scope) for about $200.
It has a spectrum analyzer which I think is important for what we are trying to do...I also want something with a digital LCR meter....

Either way I think I will be making my own HV probes with a 1,000 : 1 voltage divider just to be on the safe side.
Rigol DS 1052E scope
PeakTech 2165 LCR meter

I also made a simple voltage divider attempt for HV by using 10 resistors 10M each in series but believe it or not it made no voltage reduction as calculated and it made a positive DC voltage oscillation look like an AC oscillation at a differential input probe.
I think it can be made but not that simple way I did ...


HMS-776

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #272, on May 2nd, 2012, 04:54 PM »
It's been a few weeks since the core material was ordered....Any word yet Russ?

MrBluesky

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #273, on May 4th, 2012, 02:23 PM »
Hello All
     Im new to this forum but I hope I can help in this research and development process. I have to admit that Im not all that savy with the electronics end of things. Im just pretty good at designing and building stuff. I came across this material for a core for the VIC Transformer: MN67. I hope im not repeating something that has already been tried. I havent gotten a chance to read through everything here! I have attached the datasheet.

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #274, on May 4th, 2012, 03:51 PM »
Quote from HMS-776 on May 2nd, 2012, 04:54 PM
It's been a few weeks since the core material was ordered....Any word yet Russ?
Not yet! I will call Monday to check up... Lead time was 4-6 weeks... Thanks!! ~russ