The differential electroscope looks interesting and easy to build. Definitely worth building for the insights that you can gain from it.

Which high voltage oscilloscope probe do you use? Is it isolated? I've only been able to find reasonably priced probes that have a max voltage rating of 2kV.

Is your scope grounded? I imagine most mains powered ones will be grounded via the ground pin on the plug, and also indirectly via the neutral wire due to the common binding of neutral to earth in the incoming mains connection.

Have you tested the resistance of your earth ground connection?

based on patent 685957
I'll give l3 a (positive?) dc offset,
and will only rectify the (negative) to a capacitor.
so the negative displacement charges l3/l4,
and when the resonant cycle of L4 changes polarity, it is passed through the rectifier diode into the load capacitor.

patent talks about positive radiant charges, and a negative charged reciever.
but I use inversed.

so negative impulse sets up displacement current to positive offset L3/L4

and then I rectify the negative cycle (so positive offset stays positive and do not discharge)

the rectified half wave is powered by the displacement current, and should not be powered by the external supply.
but... The cycle is max at turnoff of the mosfet... so... part is already rectified.

ok. holiday is over I have to get back in there. wrap my mind around it and play again.

I already had 5kV on L4 by just tuning L1.
now I need to tune L3 and L2 to the sub harmonic of L4, and rectify with one diode into the load/capacitor. and see what works best

another dielectric field Detector circuit
this is from thomas kim

finally feeling fit again.
spent some time in the lab with my esd coat on and grounded. that seems to work.

I played with an auto oscilating relais, but 300c/s -325V impulses.... isn't going to work.

yesterday I watched Eric Dollards video again on longitudinal waves, with experiments.

it made so much more sense, since the last time I saw it. Now I also understand how the longitudinal wave transmission throught the earth works.

such a valuable video:

https://youtu.be/US41SKAzEcc

if my load is powered by displacement current (combined with voltage) I will need a high resistance (impedance) load.

as the conduction current needs low resistance to be high

the displacement current needs high resistance. t

I have some halogen lamps that I can place in series.

this in turn will also keep the voltage high

As dV/dt  sets up displacement current.
the impulses (resonant half wave) has 2 polarity of displacement current.

a negative voltage impulse exists of 2 resonant quarter waves.

first the change in voltage is negative.
from 0 to max negative voltage.

then the change in voltage is positive
from max negative back to zero voltage.

the displacement current is going backwards and forwards. into and out of the conductor (plate)

This is why I need a diode to capture one of the 2 displacement currents in a capacitor.

Tesla didn't use a diode in his patent.
he used a DC radiant stream.

So how to achieve this?
one method would be to make the 2 quarter waves of the impulse assymetric.

A slow change in voltage and a fast change in voltage in time.

this could be done, using the ripple anomaly.
as it is timed before the switch is conducting again.

the impulse can be tuned to precisely the moment of switching.
thus only the first slow quarter (slowed even further down by parallel capacity of L1) would be max.
then the switch conducts again, and changes the voltage very rapid.

This would produce a single displacement current.

A single direction push of the electrigen, setting it in a unidirectional motion
into OR out of the conductor plate.

if it is into, then and external inflow would occur

*CAPS LOCK OFF

Halogen lamps have a low resistiance when cold. this will bring the resonant power of L4 down, as impedance isn't matched.

once the lamps are burning, the resistance is higher, and the impedance can be matched to the L4.

So one way to avoid this problem (voltage sag=power sag) is to get the lamps burning from regular power, before hooking them onto the L4 system.

OR a better sollution is, to buffer the power of L4 in a massive capacitor bank, and let it charge.
once charged, the lamps can be hooked on, and their rush in current then only slightly lowers the voltage of the huge cap bank.
once burning, the system keeps working, and settles at its ideal point.

Another method would be using a pure resistive load (that is kept cool).
so resistive wire, with no windings, and a cooling fan placed upon it. That might be easiest.
I have a Heat fan, that I could strip down. but I rember it having coiled resistance wire....

if I tune the Ripple, right before the closure of the mosfet, and the mosfet closes at -Vmax, then the diode that protects the V+ of the supply, will be useless due to the negative voltage.
Instead a coil can be used, that passes the DC of the supply, but is high impedance for the impulse.
The coil can be made extremly high impedance, by tuning it parallel resonant with a capacitor.
The frequency then is tuned to the impulse.
but that doesn hold up, as the quarterwave impulse, is interupted by the mosfet, so the frequency is extremly high, and no parallel tuning cap for the coil is needed...
Then a cap parallel to the mosfet, connected to ground can be used to capture the negative voltage.
This again present a problem, as this negative voltage can't be re  used in the circuit, and would again need a diode.
This Idea is pretty hopeless.

a capacitor needs current to charge up it's dielectric field (voltage)
this transformation process takes time.

conventional current is related to the spacial magnetic field, and space is tied to time.

but... we also have a different type of current, called displacement current.
this current  can also charge up a capacitor.

but this displacement current is not related to the spacial magnetic field (although Maxwell said so).

instead, is related to counterspace.
which is the dimension of the dielectric field.

Different dimension, different rules...

now how does time work with this counterspace?

since counterspace is the inverse of space
is there also a countertime?
Eric Dollard mentioned it somewhere.

so what if we have waves in time or countertime?

the time factor again plays in my mind.
time is the rate of transformation.

we use time to set up a displacement current.
as it is induced by a change in voltage in time.

the bigger the surface area the bigger the displacement current.

the smaller the time of voltage change the bigger the displacement current

the bigger the voltage change in time, the bigger the displacement current.

time surface area and voltage. together ldetermine the displacement current strength

Quote from lfarrand on February 5th, 2022, 11:50 PM

The differential electroscope looks interesting and easy to build. Definitely worth building for the insights that you can gain from it.

Which high voltage oscilloscope probe do you use? Is it isolated? I've only been able to find reasonably priced probes that have a max voltage rating of 2kV.

here's where I got my Pintek HVP-08 to match Evostars probe. Unfortunately the price has gone up from 170usd to 248usd in the last 12months eek (shipped from taiwan, 2-3 weeks ETA). but the ones I got from this link/seller are solid best I can tell, for what its worth:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/223546746705?hash=item340c6ca751:g:4NkAAOSwYKZc~cvO

p.s. my scope yes grounded fyi (ds1054z with 2x pintek hvp-08 and pintek PA-677), got reproduction of 'Master Ivo' setup with some deetz here if you're shopping/window-shopping hardware:
https://open-source-energy.org/?topic=3621.0

Quote from evostars on February 14th, 2022, 07:49 AM

yesterday I watched Eric Dollards video again on longitudinal waves, with experiments.

it made so much more sense, since the last time I saw it. Now I also understand how the longitudinal wave transmission throught the earth works.

classic. Oh, u seen the one with transmission line simulation setup they call 'analog computer'? trying to think of something I could do with dat, got notes and a parts list, u got any ideas of how to play with this apparatus?

Quote from coldelectric on March 11th, 2022, 05:56 AM

here's where I got my Pintek HVP-08 to match Evostars probe. Unfortunately the price has gone up from 170usd to 248usd in the last 12months eek (shipped from taiwan, 2-3 weeks ETA). but the ones I got from this link/seller are solid best I can tell, for what its worth:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/223546746705?hash=item340c6ca751:g:4NkAAOSwYKZc~cvO

p.s. my scope yes grounded fyi (ds1054z with 2x pintek hvp-08 and pintek PA-677), got reproduction of 'Master Ivo' setup with some deetz here if you're shopping/window-shopping hardware:
https://open-source-energy.org/?topic=3621.0

Thanks for the info, much appreciated!

I've just completed soldering the components on my MOSFET driver board. It's taken a few months and lots of effort to get to this point. I hadn't designed a PCB before, so that was a fairly steep learning curve. Thanks EVO for sharing your PCB design. I used it as a reference to get started, then learned how to interpret the manufacturer spec sheets to choose the relevant components. I also got the +ve and -ve connections from isolated DC/DC to driver the wrong way round, so I had to perform some surgery and rewire it. It's not bad for a first attempt. I'm looking forward to testing with it.

I also went down a few rabbit holes in the meantime and started reading some of Tom Bearden's work, along with Floyd Sweet and a few others. It's given me some more ideas. Now to consider some coil arrangements to test...

I made a new PCB for switching my series mosfets, tested it and it works.
now back to tuning the coils.
 Added 10x 680pF 3kV ceramic disc capacitors in parallel to L1, to tune the impulse to around 830 nS duration (half wave).
This is done to tune the impulse to the L4 extra coil. which is around 602 kc/s but...
L4 changes frequency when I tune L2 (c2) capacitor.
L3 is 9nF

with C2 (L2)= 121nF
the LMD mode with a single impulse (slightly tuned higher than fres) is 157kc/s
L4 is than 683 kc/s/770nS 1/2 wave. (measured by tuning even higher or lower, which makes L4 ripple again.

When properly tuned (single impulse on L2) then L4 should have a single smooth sine wave.

with C2= 27nF (much smaller),
TEM=103.9kc/s andf LMD=164..8kc/s
The ratio of TEM and LMD is 1.58 which is near PHI ratio. This could be tuned to be perfect phi ratio.

impulse now was 830nS =602kc/s
L4 is 607kc/s nooo this cant be right, I need to recheck

the impulse now is pure negative voltage.
but it goes down, and then back up, in equal amounts of time.

So the displacement current is going one way, and then the other way.

I want the displacement to be only in one direction.

this can be done by slowing the second half of the impulse down (which is a quarter wave as the impulse is a half wave)

the L1 coil produces the impulse, by tranforming its current (magnetic field) into a voltage (dielectric field).

when the voltage is maximum negative, the current is zero, and changes polarity.
we should be able to use that.

 A regular diode won't work as it is triggered by voltage, but we could use a magnetic diode.

A diode that is triggered by the polarity of the magnetic field, would be like a (dc) saturated ferromagnetic core. a second coil on that core would only pass current in ome direction.

the L1 discharge of current to zero should be fastly passed, and tranformed into voltage.

but then, the opposite current should be blocked, and given a higher impedance path.
Like a capacitor, which would slow the second half of the impulse down, without wasting it (like a resistor would waste).

because the change in voltage in time would be much less, the displacement current would also be less.

then the body diode would again pass the energy into a capacitor for reuse in the next cycle.

I remember dollard showed drawings of Tesla's assymetric impulses in one of his early lectures. I believe it was 2007:

https://youtu.be/GObB67ETvRQ?t=8805
at 2:26:45 the "C" wave form is what I am after

this makes sense as you would get a single displacement current.

the attached drawing might work to tune the impulse. not sure if it works.

C5 is charged to max negative by the first half of the impulse.
then C4 is charged by the next half of the voltage, making it positive due to the action of the diodes.
if C5 is smaller than C4, then the impulse might change shape.

edit: tested the circuit, with c5=680nF and c4=4uF
This overheats the diode to ground, and no impulse remains

I'm more an more convinced the output power should come from the junction of L3 and L4.
thus, load parallel over L3.
L4 provides power to this same point as it has voltage and current in  phase at this point.

loading L4 at its open ends makes no sense as there is no capacity to support the current.
so leave L4 open ended.

another option would be to reverse connect L4, and see how it interacts with L3

options... always more options to explore.

The assymetric impulse with slower second half is not yet engineer able for me. so I'll leave it be for now.

back to tuning. still haven't got the harmonics right.

Dollard in the video of the previous post says many interesting things. one of them is that the longitudinal wave harmonics are inversed, in other words, the higher the frequency of the harmonic, the higher the amplitude! this is amazing. He said it like this, the 3rd harmonic is at 1/3 of the resonant frequency. very weird but... clear that these harmonics need to be used, as they clearly show amplification

Quote from evostars on April 2nd, 2022, 04:33 AM

I remember dollard showed drawings of Tesla's assymetric impulses in one of his early lectures. I believe it was 2007:

https://youtu.be/GObB67ETvRQ?t=8805
at 2:26:45 the "C" wave form is what I am after

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did some measurements on the 4 coil stack. Important conclusion is that the impedances change when detuning the system, so the resonant frequencies of the coupled coils also change.

For example:
 the impulse created by L1 and recieved by L2(measured as the yellow probe) is 608.8nS when tuned,
 but when detuned above the resonant frequency, the L2 impulse is 754.4nS !
which is 145.6nS slower, or 24% slower

yellow= L2  orange is L4 probe, both at inside rim (where max resonance is)
L2 has 27nF L3 has 9nF

scr76 = at 211kc/s (detuned above resonance)
scr78= L2 impulse is 754.4ns (half wave)
scr77= L4=1614nS (full wave), 1/2 wave= 807nS so the L4 is to slow for the impulse.
scr79= at 171kc/s single impulse at resonant frequency. L4 is 4.4kV L2 impulse is -950V
power at this point is 1.5A X 2x32.2V=97W
scr80= impulse is now 608.8nS.

Also note, the L4 (orange) is not a perfect sine. this is due to the higher resonant freqeuncy of L4, not being a harmonic of L3.
L4 ripple was 619kc/s at 211kc/s, but now its tuned to 171, the impulse has become faster, so I think L4 also has become faster.

But I dont know id the changing frequency of L1 impulse, is the same change in freqeuncy of L4...
So I can slow down the impulse to match the L4 ripple at 211kc/s but I dont know if tuned at 171 it will still be the same.

I can only try...
lets assume L4 will be a bit faster, 20% then it would be 495kc/s
3th harmonic is=165 kc/s
4th harmonic is=123.75 kc/s
5th harmonic is=99 kc/s

and why is L4 detuned now? I had it perfectly tuned to the impulse of L2 before! but now I have to add even more capacity, to line it up with L4. Which also means less dV/dT as the impulse becomes lower in voltage and slower...

sigh..

Tem was at 103.5kc LMD at 171= ratio of 1.65 (near PHI)

ok. let's do a harmonic of the impulse.
meaning tune L2 as a harmonic of L1, or... first tune L3, to get max amplification of current, with a perfect sine wave on L3 (is cap parallel to L3 is to big or small, the voltage will jump)

OK made a series of test, only changing capacity of L3 from 3nF to 11nF in 1nF steps. and found 8nF gives max current.

L3     Fres         L3      L3
cap   LMD     amps   voltage
nF     kc/s      

3   247           4.4   1.05k
4   244.6   5.0   1.04k
5   207.6   5.3   1.02k
6   194.6   5.9   1k
7   184.6   6.1   940
8   176.6   6.2   880
9   170.6   6.15   800
10   165.6   5.9   708
11   161   5.6   630

So I will continue with C3 parallel over L3=8nF

keeping L3 on 8nF (C3)
I changed C2 (L2) to it's max value of 121nF
The LMD frequency did drop, but not as much as I expected it to drop!
Fres LMD=163 kc/s

While before with C2 being 27nF, the LMD resonance was 176.6kc/s just 13.6kc/s higher.

scr81 shows the lower TEM resonant frequeny at 76kc/s , Which isn't the actual resonant frequecy, but a lower octave of L3.
It wasn't tunable to the true TEM as L3 capacity is to small for the big L2 capacity
yellow= L2 orange =L3
SCR82 shows the higher LMD resonant frequency at 163 kc/s

it looks, like the L3 coil with the relativly small capacity of 8nF has not got the ability to tune down, as L2(c2) becomes bigger and bigger. So I will now, make L2 smaller again, and try if I can get it as a harmonic of the L1 impulse. and see what L4 does.

OK, with changing the L2(c2) cap, the impulse speed of L1 stays the same at 608.8nS (half wave) so L1 is resonant at 821.3kc/s
so 5th sub harmonic is 164.26 kc/s let's see If I can tune c2 to that frequency

ok now it gets a bit more tuned. as the impulse speed didn't change from 608.8nS per half wave which is 821.29kc/s
So I tuned my generator to the 5th sub harmonic of 164,26kc/s and adjusted my C2(l2) cap to match it.
Sadly my tuning capacitor reached its limit at 61nF (in series with L2, while L3 is still at 8nF=C3)

but now the ripple of L4 (measured while detuned to 125,06kc/s) is 1648ns (fullwave)=606.8kc/s SCR87
While the L1 impulse measured 732nS (half wave)=1464nS full wave= 683kc/s scr88
So the impulse is still faster then the L4 ripple.
I will have to add more parallel capacitance over L1 to make it slow enough to mach the L4 ripple.

But why has the impulse speed now again decreased? from 608.8 ns to 732 ns? This is because this is a comparison to the tuned impulse speed (608) and the detuned impulse speed (732)

scr 89 swos the resonant frequency at 165.46. I only need a bit more capacity added to L2 to drop down to 164.26kc/s
But since the impulse is still to fast. I better add some capacity to L1, to get it right, matching to L4 ripple, after which I can again calculate the sub harmonic from the new freqeuncy.

getting there.
need a break now.

1:  add capacity to L1 to mach impulse to L4 ripple
2: tune to resonance, and measure impulse frequency
3: calculate L2 sub harmonic from impulse freq
4: tune L2 to subharmonic.

I tuned the impulse generated by L1, to the ripple of L4.

I removed 3,15 meter of the outer windings of L4 to make it a bit faster, as I didn't want to increase the capacity parallel to L1 (to make it slower).
This made the resonant freqeuncy of L4 faster, and thus I could remove 4x68pF from L1, leaving 6x68pF parallel to L1.
This made the impulse a bit faster, and higher in voltage again, which is needed for a good displacement current.

I measured the impulse and calculated I needed to tune L2/L3 to 197.25kc/s which is the fourth harmonic.
To get there I reduced the L2 series capacitor C2, to 16nF, while L3 stayed tuned by 8nF in parallel.
So L1 had around 408pF in parallel. this made the impulse 643.2nS in duration (equal voltage measurement) so L1 is resonant at 789kc/s.
I need to re measure the impulse speed again, as it should have changed again, because I now tuned it to resonance. I recall it then becomes faster, which means I have a higher frequency to tune to. This was the 4th sub harmonic, I think I will try to tune to the 5th sub harmonic, as this gives even more current probably.

yellow=L2 voltage
green= current (L4 at SCR101 L3 at SCR 102)
orange=L4 voltage (still not a perfect sine, need to retune to impulse again)

NEXT
-Tune resonant,
-measure impulse duration (half wave equal voltage)
-calculate L1 frequency,
-and tune L2 L3 to sub harmonic, by C2