Radiant coil capacitor

evostars

second am radio test
« Reply #575, on January 4th, 2023, 06:25 AM »
Again smae test, but now L2 had much larger capacity 115nf, requiring larger currents from the supply.
L3 only 9.7nF to tune it to 1800V pp at 153kc/s
L4 measured 3900V pp

Radio gave the exact same responce. signal was hearable, and disappeard ofter 10m distance.
So no problems with the need for faradya cage. The energy is largely containted within the resonant fields and not radiated away. which is good.



evostars

Re: Radiant coil capacitor
« Reply #576, on January 4th, 2023, 06:51 AM »
After doing the radio test, with reversing the large and small capacity of L2 L3.
I conclude again, that L2 large and L3 small gives best amplification.
16A on L3 with 1800Vpp is just much more, then what I got with a large cap on L3.

The question again, is how can those amps be so high with only a small cap of 9,7nF on L3.

lets tune it to a harmonic again, instead of the 153kc/s

evostars

TMT
« Reply #577, on January 6th, 2023, 01:09 AM »
after some variations I will now return to the tuning whereby my audio starts humming.
this is when the L4 is tuned to the L1 impulse,
and L3 L4 is tuned to a sub harmonic of L4.

L2 is series tuned by a relatively large cap
while L3 has a relatively small cap.

L3 will again be high voltage, so I will need to make a dedicated high voltage tuning capacitor (or 2 tuning boards in parallel).

when properly tuned, I will again install the DC offset on L2,
and Will rectify from L3 with a single diode (polarity is to be tested) into a load.

I also will test the radio signal for reach

evostars

Re: Radiant coil capacitor
« Reply #578, on January 6th, 2023, 07:48 AM »Last edited on January 6th, 2023, 02:11 PM
returning to post 563 564 as this was where the audio started buzzing

info from those posts:
tuned L3 to the 9th sub harmonic of 147kc/s This is still rough, as calculations are not reality.
L3=19.6nF
L2=61nF

L4 ripple frequency around 1343.63 kc/s (728ns)

 L4 half wave=388.8ns
which the L1 impulse should match (or be quicker)

L4 subharmonics:
8th=167.95 kc/s
9th=149.29 kc/s
10th=134.36 kc/s
11th=122.15 kc/s
12th=111.97 kc/s
13th=103.36 kc/s

L3 was 1639Vpp  14.76A pp
L4 was 3533.1Vpp 10App inside rim(at end) ,
out side rim was 6A(at cap)

power in was 1.14A 2.32.2V Full power
no ripple on L2, impulse around -2200V with 379nS duration

I think I used the older MOSFET switch (green PCB)

evostars

Re: Radiant coil capacitor
« Reply #579, on January 6th, 2023, 01:57 PM »
I think the L4 ripple needs to measured again. I have moved the coils, and L4 has low capacity, due to movement, it can be detuned,
Because I cant recreate the audio hum.

F=147kc/s L2=115nF L3=10,7nF
L4=4095Vpp and 10,4App
L3=16,64App and 1811Vpp
impulse =-1700V @ 382ns

So I need again... to make L1 unifilar, to speed up the impulse, so L4 ripple becomes visible.
no this makes no sense.

Maybe the buzz came through my guitar, lets turn it on (di amps sim into soundboard)

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evostars

Re: Radiant coil capacitor
« Reply #580, on January 6th, 2023, 02:43 PM »
I dont know why, but I can replicate the audio hum.
I tried several different settings in the tuning caps, to see if I made a mistake.

what is clear, is that it all works best when L2 has the large tuning cap of 115nF this gives high amps in the L2 primary and low voltage (resonant)

The L3 tuning cap then can be made smaller 10.3nF right now, giving a Fr of 149.29kc/s (which should be a harmonic.
power in is 1,41A x2x 27,0 V   (cant go higher else the L3 caps begin to spark)

L3 is then 1800Vpp (max before sparking) and around 15App (scr232)

L4=3943Vpp and 12 App and in phase (scr231)

impulse on L2 is 390ns -1450V (scr233)

So biggest power in L4 when L2 cap is big, and L3 cap is small.

but no hum, I tuned it to several different freqeuncies. no audio hum... vague...
lets, rectify this with a single diode, and see how that comes out

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evostars

underload L4 id faster
« Reply #581, on January 7th, 2023, 10:22 AM »
I hooked up my lamp load parallel to L3 again, rectified with 2 diodes, into large caps.
L2 cap=115nF L3=10,7nF
resonance with max power, at 166.56kc/s

L4 showed ripples again, they measured 330nS for a half wave (scr234)
so L4=1515kc/s which is good to have for subharmonic calculations
while L2 impulse measured 407ns (scr236), which means it is to slow, L4 is too fast

scr237 shows voltage orange and current green  of L3 (yellow =L2)
scr235 shows voltages of L2 and L4 (with ripple)
seeing the ripple, makes me think I should flip L4 over, to get the polarity right ,
as it now seems that the impulse is diminishing the L4 ripple, instead of amplifying. but its hard to tell with these signals.

PSU input, 0.47A 2x25.8V= 24.3W

L4 has low capacity, so should not be loaded, thats why only loaded L3.
The beauty is that I now can see the ripples on L4 again, making it possible for me to tune the whole settup, under load.
Which I never could do properly before.

making progress again. and the 42 W lamp was dimly lit So lets see how I can tune it better, using the larger L4, which is slower.
then again match it, to the impulse, and see if I can get a proper sine wave

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evostars

Re: Radiant coil capacitor
« Reply #582, on January 8th, 2023, 05:54 AM »
OK I tuned to max power, looking at L3 current max.

L4 now shows large swings.
I measured them and, now L4 is slower then the L1 impulse! which means I dont have to rebuild everything.

impulse =410ns
L4= 486ns (halfwave)
L4=1030 kc/s (approx.)

lamp=107,87Vdc x 0.135 Adc=14.56W
input power is 0.57A x2 x 32.2V =36.708 W
So very inefficent right now, but it is still out of tune.

frequency for this test is 172.56kc/s
sub harmonics of L4:
6th sub harmonic= 172.5 kc/s !!! (so I already am at a sub harmonic! can be coincident)
7th 147.9
8th 129.4
9th 115 kc/s

so... lets add a cap to L1, and increase L3 parallel cap to tune to a lower harmonic

found out I can easily save the webcast screen shots (no need for usb swapping!)

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evostars

Re: Radiant coil capacitor
« Reply #583, on January 8th, 2023, 06:01 AM »Last edited on January 8th, 2023, 06:06 AM
note how Lr current (green) and voltage (orange) are now 180 degrees out of phase, maybe I had the probe reversed, but still this is strange lets test it again

a few moments later ;)
I checked, and it is correct, arrow of the current probe is pointing towards the coil (away from cap) as I always do.
Weird... but... wait... that is normal for power generation!
power is consumed when it is in phase
power is genrated when voltage and current are 180 degrees out of phase.
Cool!

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evostars

sub harmonics
« Reply #584, on January 8th, 2023, 06:20 AM »
The calculated sub harmonics deviate, as the freqeuncy is not stead of L4, when not properly tuned.
I tuned down to several sub harmonics, but the wave form of L4 fluctuatres. but it does help to tune to a perfect sub harmonic.

For instance at 95.5kc.   whereby L3 is not tuned (still has 10,7nF parallel)
the screenshot clearly shows L4 (orange) voltage speeding up and slowing down.

Funny is that the negative impulse, seems to give a positive ring on L4.
and the Maximum ring on L4 is delayed after the impulse.
impulse is now -2250V while rimples on L2 are present, due to L3 and L2 not being tuned to LMD
And still the lamp burns. NAturally effecientcy is still low.

So now to tune it. to get a impulse duration match, and a proper sub harmonic.
I would love to be able to see what happens then

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evostars

Re: Radiant coil capacitor
« Reply #585, on January 10th, 2023, 04:41 AM »
after recording the subharmonics of the L4, while under load of a 42W lamp (parallel to L3) its time to introduce the DC offset again.
This time also measuring the the time it takes to charge up the offset.

securesupplies

Re: Radiant coil capacitor
« Reply #586, on January 10th, 2023, 08:38 PM »
Quote from evostars on October 23rd, 2022, 07:20 AM
tsunami is not moving water
it moves energy through water

displacement current is not moving Aether
its moving energy through aether

they are energy waves.

does this mean energy can circulate around the coils?
PROFOUND STATEMENT  and I fell it is Correct

ven capacitence on oustide of copper

securesupplies

Re: Radiant coil capacitor
« Reply #587, on January 10th, 2023, 08:39 PM »
Quote from securesupplies on January 10th, 2023, 08:38 PM
PROFOUND STATEMENT  and I feel it is Correct

even capacitence on oustide of copper such as Keshe Explained and Steven Marks used

massive capacitense cetween copper and insulation so not to ground to air

DD  Happy New Year 2023

evostars

Re: Radiant coil capacitor
« Reply #588, on January 11th, 2023, 01:49 PM »Last edited on January 11th, 2023, 01:55 PM
"normally" the extra coil is series connected to. the grounded secondary.

but what About grounding the extra coil, while series connecting the secondary?

Today I tested this and yes that also works.
the secondary still has a parallel capacitor.

I want to explore this deeper, as this has the benefit of having the possibility of the extra coil resonance feeding into the secondary.

The question now does rise, if the extra coil should also be on the inside? between the L2 primary and L3 secondary.
I think not... but worth a try.

so the main idea is to not have the high voltage of the extra coil on the open ended inside rim, where the energy is not connected to anything but the air.

but instead, connecting the resonant inside rim of the L4 extra coil to the L3 secondary, where it can feed into.

This is the basis for true series parallel resonance.

So... then.... shouldn't I connect the inside rim of the L4 to the inside rim of L3 secondary?
so both resonant energies can mix?
and... parametric resonance

another option to try and see what happens.

and also.... where to get the power out?
much to play with. as always...

evostars

grounded extra coil, with (parallel resonant) secondary in series
« Reply #589, on January 12th, 2023, 05:32 AM »
Definitely the way to go!
L4 extra coil inside rim, connected to L3 secondary inside rim.
L4 grounded on the outside rim.
L3 parallel tuned with 21nF
L2 series tuned with 115nF
Fres=113.56kc/s (near 8th subharmonic of L4=112kc/s)
PSU: 2x19.1Vdc x0.67A dc =26.6W input power
L2 impulse is 387nS
L4 ring is 896kc/s and L4 half wave is 608ns

scr240.png =L2 impulse in yellow (half wave measurement)
"241"=L4 ring orange, full wave measurement
"242"=L4 half wave orange measurement
243=overview, with current probe (green) on L3 inside rim
244= L4 ring double period measurement
245= L2 impulse (yellow) and L3/L4, see how the polarity matches! (impulse is too fast)

So by connecting this way, the L3 L4 and L2 impulse are all phase alligned. no need for flipping L4 over, to get the phase right.

I also measured full power, at around 65W input, then the current of L3 was high around 14A pp.
I then measured L3 on the outside rim, and current there was even higher, 16A pp, while the voltage was much lower (?)

I think I should be able to create a perfect sine wave on l3/L3 inside rim, If the impulse is matched to the L4 ripple, and if L3 has te right subharmonic of L4.

I could slow down the impulse, but I can better decrease the L4 windings, to speed it up.
In the end, I should rebuild the coils (now cast in epoxy) with the knowledge I have.
L1 should remain fast, for high voltage impulses, but slow enough to prevent ringing (which occured with unifilar coil, impulse 180ns)

L4 could also be made unifilar, to speed it up, but probably much to fast. better to decrease windings.

I wonder how this behaves under load.
And I haven't tested L4 current, but I expect it to be in phase again. which is interesting as that would be connected to earth ground
Very happy with these results, as L4 high voltage (low capacity) now combines with L3 high current (large capacity parallel).
So voltage and current are joined together, L4 is feeding L3

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evostars

extra coil indeed in phase with current and voltage again
« Reply #590, on January 13th, 2023, 05:51 AM »
246 shows current (green) of L3 secondary
247 shows current in green of L4 extra coil
orange is the voltage of L3 L4 junction on the inside rim, yellow the L2 series resonant primary with impulse.

clearly the current is again phase shifted at the L4, bringing it in phase. this was at 115k/s same settings as previous test.
I wonder why the frequency now is higher?

also, the current in L4 is much lower than in L3. as it was before. which is to be expected with the small capacity of L4

Now loading... Can I use ground? as it will put the load over L4... or should load not be grounded, and just parallel to L3? where the largest capacity is


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evostars

current amplification article
« Reply #591, on January 13th, 2023, 06:26 AM »
https://accelinstruments.com/Applications/WaveformAmp/Magnetic-Field-Generator.html

this is a related article about current amplification, by series parallel resonance,
In the article the circuit uses 2 Capacitors, (one is series one in parallel) with 1 coil.

In my experiment, I have voltage amplification, by series parallel resonance,
using 1 capacitor, and 2 coils (one in series one in parallel).

Although, since the 2 coils are bifilar pancake coils, they can also be looked at as capacitor plates!

evostars

positive voltage impulses, with Negative DC offset, and negative current impulse
« Reply #592, on January 14th, 2023, 04:47 AM »Last edited on January 14th, 2023, 06:10 AM
I have come to the conclusion, I used the wrong polarity.
I need positive voltage impulses, to create a negative DC offset,
to create a negative current impulse, whereby the negative DC offset is quickly discharged through a (parallel) MOSFET switch.

This is due to the true direction of current.
When a battery powers a lamp, the true current flows from negative to positive.
So negative is discharged towards positive.

To create an inflow of this current, the same should happen, so  a negative dc offset, which is discharged towards positive.

I will redesign the circuit (mirror it) and post it (I already did this way back).

This will be continued here:
https://open-source-energy.org/?topic=3660.0