The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017

~Russ

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #725, on December 21st, 2017, 06:41 PM »
Yes talisman,  what I'm. Pointing out is the fact that current will take the path of lest resistance... 

And what I'm trying to. Point out is thsts not down the wire...

Refrance my DOC I posted on the tuning.

~Russ



~Russ

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #727, on December 22nd, 2017, 12:07 AM »
"Second, due to the
relatively small (100-10,000 times m0) permeability’s of magnetic
materials substantial leakage flux occurs outside the core. This
means that leakage flux from magnetic cores will easily leave
the core and enter the wires wound around the cores. This
leakage flux in the wires causes high currents to flow at the wire
surfaces, which in turn will change the effective wire resistance,
5
especially to high frequency currents"

guess i started this but did not post it...

~Russ

~Russ

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #728, on December 22nd, 2017, 12:20 AM »Last edited on December 22nd, 2017, 12:29 AM
here is the commutator version 1...

fire, blank, short. To the exact sizes he specifies...

5” round. 20 segments total
Fire: 5/16” .3125”
Blank: 3/16” .1875
Short:2/16”  .125”

Use Peek or some high temp high strength plastic / bake lite / other to make the commutator from.

Step 1. drill the holes and press fit the brass or copper rods, (add glue)
Step 2. lathe down the center to expose the rods right at 1/2 the depth... (this gives u the correct size according to the above measurements if using 5/16 rods and 2/16  rods...)
Step 3.  cut down and press fit / glued in place...(copper ring is a water pipe fitting... 1-5/8" (1-1/2" OD pipe))
Step 4. spot weld the wires on to the ends of the rods... (use a re wrapped MOT to spot weld wires.... or cap dump)

easy...

3d print it? posibaly... but that spark will eat up the plastic... and melt it...

any suggestions?

~Russ

Tavote

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #730, on December 22nd, 2017, 04:30 AM »
Quote from ~Russ on December 22nd, 2017, 12:20 AM
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3d print it? posibaly... but that spark will eat up the plastic... and melt it...

any suggestions?

~Russ
I can see only four options:

1) either use very little voltage so that the spark is little (but you will not get anywhere with this option)
2) use ceramic comutator (which would be hard to make but i like this option)
3) use hard wood comutator (which would have limited use if you would have big sparks but i think that this one would last much longer then the plastic one from the 3D printer)
4) make let's say 10 plastic commutators from that 3D printer so that the spark is 10 times less like Newman did on the page 292 (this option is not good because if you increase the voltage then you might need more plastic commutators because of the fire, blank, short setup).

That is why he solved it with the capacitor parallel to the coil, you use as much capacitance that is needed to stop the spark from appearing, Page 525.

Anyway, i would go with the third option :)

Page 292 and 525 is in the attachments.

~Russ

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #731, on December 22nd, 2017, 08:05 AM »
Thanks Tavote,

Yes must use high voltage. 

I think wood Will carbonize and the will begain to be conductive.

For the testing on the first unit I want to stick to the orngial specs due to the known fact that we need the sparking to help show the big current back spikes. 

We will play with adding caps etc as well.

I think the best way is some kind of bakelite. Or semular metrials. 

Thank for the feed back!!!!!

~Russ

~Russ

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #734, on December 22nd, 2017, 01:00 PM »
This is what I would use for the comutator but I don't have a pice big enugh.  And I can't rember the name of this stuff...

~Russ

Tavote

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #735, on December 22nd, 2017, 02:12 PM »Last edited on December 22nd, 2017, 02:23 PM
Quote from ~Russ on December 22nd, 2017, 01:00 PM
This is what I would use for the comutator but I don't have a pice big enugh.  And I can't rember the name of this stuff...

~Russ
Oh my ... How could i forgot about this awesome stuff ! thank you Russ for showing me the picture. This would be the fifth option, also this is much better then wood :)

One type is in my language called Kartit, Pertinax, FR-2 or Hp 2061
This is a Czech site.
http://www.elektroizolanty.cz/elektroizonlanty/eshop/1-1-KARTIT-PERTINAX-desky/0/5/74-KARTIT-Pertinax-deska-1050-x-1025-x-0-3-mm

The other type of the material is Textit, Texgumoid or Hgw 2082
Czech site again.
http://www.elektroizolanty.cz/elektroizonlanty/eshop/2-1-TEXTIT-desky/0/5/1-TEXTIT-deska-1025-x-1050-x-0-5-mm
And i thing that what you are holding is this one Textit, Texgumoid.

This is the best i can do, i can't really find any English E-Shop so that i could provide you with the link.

EDIT: The third material that the commutator can be made of is Fiberglass Sheet.

EDIT: Finally found a good english site
https://www.ms-viscom.com/industrial-technical-laminates

~Russ

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #738, on December 23rd, 2017, 12:00 PM »
It starts here...  Came to some sencen with Richards idea of cutting down the wood further than the I will with the rods in place.  then inserting the rods with epoxy.  And then cut back down with epoxy in between the rods.  Should work. 

~Russ

onepower

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #739, on December 23rd, 2017, 01:28 PM »
Quote
Think of them as a two ton grand piano hanging above your head on a single frayed rope.  No margin of error acceptable.
I had a couple 1" N42 neo's skip across the bench and come together from 16" away at which point you really get to see the inverse square law at work. They came together with such force that you could hear all the little pieces hitting the inside of my shop as if a hand grenade went off. I don't even want to think about what would happen if those magnets Russ has were not constrained.

~Russ

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #741, on December 24th, 2017, 01:56 AM »Last edited on December 24th, 2017, 01:59 AM
Well... I'm tired...

Epoxy to dry...  Then cutt the final comutator to size and wire it up... 

~Russ

~Russ

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #744, on December 27th, 2017, 12:28 AM »Last edited on December 27th, 2017, 12:31 AM
Yes..  That's scarry...  Now just don't let me forget its there...  ;)   

~Russ

~Russ

Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
« Reply #745, on December 27th, 2017, 01:13 AM »Last edited on December 27th, 2017, 01:16 AM
Quote from Matt Watts on December 16th, 2017, 12:06 PM
Can you point me to where Newman shows the mechanical orientation of the commutator in respect to the magnets?

I'm thinking this is highly critical, especially for the single gap designs, not so much for the multi-gap but still important.
Here you go... you calculate the degrees... Its not much...

Its just over TDC because it only needs to be tipped slightly to make sure it dose in the right direction...

~Russ