#### patrick1

##### Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
Thats my kind of breakfast, cheers ZOO.

QUOTE ; Where did the energy stored in the electric capacitance come from?      , ANSWER, THE MAGNETS AND THE SOURCE.

The flow of energy through electric capacitive coupling through the "curl-free component" of the electric field is not subject to Lenz' law, so it may come from somewhere else other than our input, namely the bound currents in our magnet.  QUESTION : Not subject too LENz law ?. - does that mean we cant use it ?, or we can use it, and dont know how ? ;-)

#### particlezoo

##### Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
Quote from patrick1 on February 16th, 10:05 PM
The flow of energy through electric capacitive coupling through the "curl-free component" of the electric field is not subject to Lenz' law, so it may come from somewhere else other than our input, namely the bound currents in our magnet.  QUESTION : Not subject too LENz law ?. - does that mean we cant use it ?, or we can use it, and dont know how ? ;-)
Lenz' law applies when: Energy is transferred through the magnetic field (magnetic coupling/magnetic induction) (e.g. I have a current and a changing source current).

Lenz' law does not apply when: Energy is transferred through the electric field (capacitive coupling/electrostatic induction) (e.g. I have an electrostatic charge and a changing source electric dipole).

#### patrick1

##### Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
hey great explanation, really shines some light on it,

i like too do tesla over and over again,  . especially in new ways !!

first image that popped into my head when reading your answer too my question, was, an image of teslas patent,; apparatus for the capture and utilization of radiant energy.

which is as we all know,  an electrostatic pickup device, ( insulated sheet of aluminium ),  and this was connected too one side of a capacitor, ,- other side being connected too ground,.     so electrostatic too hot current , converter.  . we can use that, if you can generate cheap electrostatic energy, - i think vandergraphs are the most efficient ?. possibiley ?.  -  but of course you have a different apparatus in mind   &grins&.  care too finish my mental image ? ;-).  - how the hell do you run your charge pump theory ?
##### Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
Hrmmm, i just found a problem with the newman machine,  it seems that a large one requires alot of copper wire.

got any ideas ?

i really think, after not much experimenting, that a low resistance coil, made from thin copper strap, or tape, - is almost completely ineffective
i suspect this thing requires quite a dense field line environment

PLS PLS PLS HELPME

seriously im considering just buying a 25.kg spool of 0,8mm. and probably another one after that.... which sucks coz im kind of broke, and i might end up with a white elephant.

-  good news is, i havnt built it get, so i can just use the magnets for something else.  -

but it could also turn out well, - because i may provide several hundred watts of ou for the next 30 years, - i really dont know ;-D

#### ~Russ

##### Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
This is why i build the Cheesy Fan...

2lb of copper and the results are quite good...

Need more but its a good start....

~Russ

#### patrick1

##### Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
HEHE RUSS . that explains why you started with a big one and upgraded too the cheese., - however im still thinking about going bigger, - ;-D. AND as chance would have it Russ !!!  check out what i wrote in my bed thismorning.   * and i quote*

Im getting too the end of an audiobook by michael crichton, Time. about the
exploration of an english country scene depicting some time i guess too be
around the 1300's.   - and this was sent there via use of an experimental
time machine from the current period. . naturally being an electrical engineer
i was slightly facinated by the gratuitous subtle references too *free energy,
it seems the author is also an electronics hobbiest, and during the 15hour
audiobook he went on too make several references too the trials and tribulations
of designing electrical circuits. all writen between the lines naturally, as
you would expect from the author of jurassic park., anyho,

from about 13 hours in, he allows the story too diverge into a graphic story
of bucking hoes, medievil life, and the *paralell outstretched bound arms of slaves
and even a few references too ground swords and ceramics.

being that i have 40mins left too listen, there may be more, but at this point
in time, im left with a describtion of a cage, with 4 or 5 thick steel bars,
and no walls. - these bars are inset within a fixed wooden wheel, and all virtical
;diameter 2 meters.,  these bars are a description of electromagnet's - wound
for high voltage, with seemingly a single winding.- giving set of 5 north and
south poles.

our electromagnets are sandwiched between two rotating wheels. also 2 meters
diameter, with large dangerous sounding magnets fixed around the perimeter.- and
enough time given in the book, too visualize how the whole apparatus works, -
and too imagine the need too ovoid magnetic cogging. "timing" they call it ;-)

apparently there are a few difficulties involed. - mine personally, is, and
i diverge from my story here, is paying for my current project, my newman motor,
- my project is quite expencive because it requires very large magnets, and huge
quantities of copper wire,.  - the design layed down in this book, makes some
significant design improvments over the famous energy machine of joseph newman.
that i am about too start building my third, and largest by far, model of.

So, i am asking for the help of smart people. i noticed here a number of people
have a talent for modeling, which i find deeply exciting. beacuse the one
element of dout i have inside me, is, in relation too building this new squirel
cage motor, ^ if i may, is the spacing of the magnets around the rotor. -
i need a team mate too bring this dream too reality, and use some genius too
create a mathematical image of the geometry of the magnetic rotors for this
idea, so as too ovoid magnetic cogging,

This dual rotor design seems far more cost effecting of creating some free energy

whos with me ;-) ?

kind regards,

Patrick,

also a handful of references too a gate winch, or geardown machanism, and talk
of protecting the chains, - or coil resistance.

incidently this book isnt his best work.

but i did like a paragraph im listning too now, about a daring, carefully
timed escape, not waiting for the drawbridge too be down. before running
out onto the dimly lit grassly plain, - just before the sword came down,
hesitantly spitting sparks,    ***the man looks back, they are free, because
there isnt enough time too run across the drawbridge, too go back^.  one last
look back at the old man, cowering in the corner, just a moment too consider
the times of death and starvation.   too freedom ! , = sorry mate, im staying,
WTF come with me.  NO im going too wait, and watch from the lookout.

goodbye merrick ! stand still, wait too be teleported,-  a brilliant flash of blue
light, and another. and another, and another.

FLASH, woohoo back too the corporate excecutives. !

#### Belfior

##### Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
@Russ: I'm trying to follow the inventions and patents of this guy Emery Smith. He claims a lot of things, but I cannot see any proof. Have you worked with him before? He says your Bedini spike collector in your carage is his invention.

I believe this is you Russ in this video?

https://youtu.be/MuxF3lZglLc?t=286

#### ~Russ

##### Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
Quote from Belfior on March 3rd, 09:31 AM
@Russ: I'm trying to follow the inventions and patents of this guy Emery Smith. He claims a lot of things, but I cannot see any proof. Have you worked with him before? He says your Bedini spike collector in your carage is his invention.

I believe this is you Russ in this video?

https://youtu.be/MuxF3lZglLc?t=286
Well. Long story, this is owned by Emery. Tested by me.

Im going to pick and choose my fights here.

I rebuilt, tested, and confirmed that the 10coiler kit i tested in that video was >99%  efficient.

I Cant confirm i saw anything over 100%
(I did loop it as well with the large cap bank)

Emery can do what he wants with the video. I presume he has that right. He did record that clip.

However he said in the video that "it works" and indeed it dose "work" . He never defines wether or not it makes extra power...

I will leave it at that.

I wish to not pick a fight so to speak with Emery. I did work with him for a bit. And i will speak the truth as im asked to. (As you asked me to clarify that video) And my statement above will allways hold true in accordance with what i tested.

Here is some photograph proof i did indeed test that in the shop i was in.

Hope this clarifies that.

Thanks for pointing it out.

~Russ

#### patrick1

##### Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
Flack me there is so many pickles on youtube, i want a piece of russ's cheese

#### Belfior

##### Re: The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman 2017
Thanks Russ!

This is all I wanted to know and you did it perfectly. Sorry if I put you in a spot there :( Getting hold of Emery has been a tedious job and all I seem to get is webmasters that are just there to keep a steady income rolling...

I totally understand we need to pick our fights.

If Emery would be willing to answer any questions, could you give him my email? It would drop you off the loop and I would have a chance to pick his brain. Totally understand if you think this matter is closed or he does not wish to do so.

Here is my email and PGP keys:

belfior@kipase.com

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