Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.

andy

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #175, on October 14th, 2017, 10:45 PM »
Ronnie
I ask about a person because I understand your situation.
If one person got working cell , then he can help other people ( us ) to got cell working.
Ronnie can you send the working VIC driver , VIC transformer and cell to Matt for replicate , please?

HHO-Dan

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #176, on October 16th, 2017, 01:22 AM »Last edited on October 17th, 2017, 06:11 PM
Hi Ronnie
Hope all is going well
Glad to see the VIC still lives on..... I found your numbers interesting, I will need to go back and look at my coils, It's been a year.
Inductor value of 1262.7 mH 
Capacitance 489 pF
Resonate Frequency 6.40 kHz
with a Z series resistance of 78.54 ohms
Thanks again GPS nice to see you back

jon_colt

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #177, on October 16th, 2017, 03:07 PM »
I found this chart,i don't know if is in distilled water or natural water.It maybe the vic works on the range of 17khz-20Khz depend the type of water and also temperature of the water ,becouse the resonance frequency changes cause the temperature of water change the capacitance of the cell. Sorry for my english.

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HHO-Dan

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #178, on December 6th, 2017, 01:33 AM »
Hi Guys (GPS) Just a quick question.
Since we now know the VIC only reaches resonance after most all of the water has left the cell is it safe to say at this point the VIC is functioning as the gas processor unit ?
Thanks again
........Checking Xmas lights one at a time .........



gpssonar

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #179, on December 6th, 2017, 03:39 AM »
Quote from HHO-Dan on December 6th, 2017, 01:33 AM
Hi Guys (GPS) Just a quick question.
Since we now know the VIC only reaches resonance after most all of the water has left the cell is it safe to say at this point the VIC is functioning as the gas processor unit ?
Thanks again
........Checking Xmas lights one at a time .........
The cell functions like the gas processor once the water turns to gas.


HMS-776

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #181, on February 13th, 2018, 06:06 PM »
 Just be sure to have the connections covered and shielded like Stan did. I think that's why I've had such a difficult time hitting resonance....

I'm trying to find a way to shield my cell better... Just not sure how to do it best since I don't have access to any machining equipment large enough.

Who out there is still working on replicating the VIC and cell?

Matt Watts

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #182, on February 13th, 2018, 10:31 PM »
Quote from securesupplies on January 7th, 2018, 01:17 AM
Cut to chase on the cell redesign

Don't beat around bush , it is too dusty to see.
Dan, I sure wish you would give a link to the original video.  You should know better by now that we give credit to where credit is due around here.

In any event, this guy suggests that one of the tubes needs to be insulated.  Ronnie never said that, so I tend to discount what is being said here.  From my experience when you do this, all you get is a high voltage across the dielectric insulator--you still have near zero volts across the water and hence, no bubbles.  So as far as cutting to the chase, the jury is still out.





HMS-776

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #187, on February 17th, 2018, 07:47 PM »Last edited on February 18th, 2018, 11:11 AM
Well here's where I left off before I put my stuff in storage. I think I shared this before but I'll share it again just in case.

Here the yellow trace is the signal across the primary coil...The blue shows the signals on the secondary side of the circuit...What your seeing is the induced oscillations of each of the chokes...The L1 choke produces the low frequency oscillations while the L2 choke produces a higher frequency. I measured the frequency of each choke and sure enough they match the ratio of the choke inductances exactly.

As far as getting my wfc working I think the only thing preventing it is proper shielding/ insulation.



Cycle

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #189, on February 17th, 2018, 11:01 PM »
imgur.com

It'll create a whole web page for your graphic, you can put in a title and footnote, etc.

What I do, though, is right-click the image and get its URL (rather than the URL of the whole page that the graphic will be put into), then put that in the img tag on OSE.



securesupplies

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #192, on February 18th, 2018, 02:50 PM »
swapping external insulation for in cell capacitance tightening external volt ranges and raising internal voltage ranges and shortening voltage swings in cell, this was and is the purpose of my post.  thus pll has less ranges to follow this is just food for thought

Henne

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #193, on February 26th, 2018, 02:35 PM »Last edited on February 26th, 2018, 02:41 PM
Quote from Matt Watts on February 13th, 2018, 10:33 PM
I'm not sure anyone still is that frequents this forum.  Myself, I'm just getting the final steps in my new lab completed and I'm not really certain what project I will pursue in the coming days.
At the moment I am on the sidelines regarding the WFC project, but I am willing to pick it up again soon. I've been gathering funds to buy new equipment for my lab setup I really need to progress.

It would be really nice to form a small workgroup with people trying out a similar setup... In my experience the amount of information is so huge, it's hard not to get lost in it, if you're at it alone.

haxar

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #194, on February 26th, 2018, 04:12 PM »Last edited on February 26th, 2018, 04:14 PM
Quote from Henne on February 26th, 2018, 02:35 PM
In my experience the amount of information is so huge, it's hard not to get lost in it, if you're at it alone.
You can boil the information down to a simple KISS theory, as Stan suggests: Resonant high voltage, low current consumption.

The important part of the VIC is the transformer. The transformer should resonate with the VIC via a feedback coil to the phase lock loop, as the acronym suggests.

Henne

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #195, on March 4th, 2018, 01:20 PM »
Uhu,
Quote from haxar on February 26th, 2018, 04:12 PM
You can boil the information down to a simple KISS theory, as Stan suggests: Resonant high voltage, low current consumption.
Uhu, easier said than done, I'm afraid :) It always boils down to the specifics. There are a lot of variables in this setup. What type of wire? Type of core? Conductivity of the water? Not in the least how you construct the VIC and the cell itself.

However, I don't really understand the following part in your comment:
Quote from haxar on February 26th, 2018, 04:12 PM
The important part of the VIC is the transformer. The transformer should resonate with the VIC via a feedback coil to the phase lock loop, as the acronym suggests.
The VIC IS the transformer, right? Why do you make the distinction here?



soulfluence

Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #198, on April 23rd, 2018, 01:04 AM »
Quote from securesupplies on February 18th, 2018, 02:50 PM
swapping external insulation for in cell capacitance tightening external volt ranges and raising internal voltage ranges and shortening voltage swings in cell, this was and is the purpose of my post.  thus pll has less ranges to follow this is just food for thought
I know I'm new here, but capacitance is resonance in this case is it not???