Earl To stop people making same error over and over i think we can now merge daughter board on to the vic
and delete the db 9 and make it a db 37 on matrix to db 37 vic

this way it greatly simplifies it again  with solid reliable connection
and does allo in line db37 break out joiner if needed.

it may mean trigger board get changed
to db 37 or something but that is ok we start on that now so things working plug and play

a little more work until we get to this but closer

Dan 

Better Labels on Vic and daughter board V1.8
gerbers updates attached version 3

Enjoy brothers and sisters only took 20 years LOL

Dan

Merged Version
with DB37 connector
God Speed

Many thanks for this Dan, a good board to test with, have you had a chance to test this one with your coils and Vic yet?

we test all the time right now we are  assembling extra things for down stream
all results posted here openly in forum

Do you know if this one in another format such as eagle so we can easily make changes? Easyeda seems hard to make changes

all gerbers are posted

Do you have firepinto version you posted before at your wix / onedrive link?
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqxyHUVb2_mlpw-5SAukRT3_GZyX

It says not available, thanks you have lot of good photos on your site.

if you mean circuit no as it was obsoleted   
keep in mind I and Earl already  fixed and posted merged vic up graded to db 37 pin board with other drive boards and main board done in db 37  which is near perfect

dd
2nd
if you mean interlock diagram yes I have it but it is limited to gas production side  drawn by Alex Petty
note the  injector distributor interlocks map drawing
 is not  posted to forum yet  as a circuit Map , Maybe Alex can post  if it exists in pcs or as a whole.
other may have it and are invited to post it

NOTE TO everyone Post interlock for the  k11 2x dist card 4x inject card  and 2x gas air gate contol cards and 2 x gas tune cards and we try complete it .

Here is Pic the other items and main board for gas production is near done and posted

DD

Note You can Post here or in the GMS Thread

https://open-source-energy.org/?topic=3474.0

Yes many thanks, we will figure this out yet!

new petlov

Stanley Meyer's VIC - Double Amplitude modulated Resonant Waveform

134 views  13 Nov 2022
The "Resonant frequency" is tuned at: 16,7 kHz
The "GATE frequency" is tuned at: 2,98 kHz (create First Amplitude modulation)
The "Unipolar rectifying" is at: 50 Hz (create Secondary Amplitude modulation)

My Circuit diagram:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BzrNQs4b4nko5rdOo5qFbVuhpLgxS1kJ/view

The Original Meyer`s Waveform (crop):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vwWRN18kFEgkbWSpi39coI32eJdq7I4y/view

The Original Meyer`s Waveform (full):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zXrNAHGDlKqFcIbCYWwRp_hB5Cqq3ujI/view

Andrija Puharich`s Waveforms:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/115HZhWPbZDpojLf5E642KtHBBZvZzbOd/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EILxF-YUcHCk7Pw5q1i13xgTH4V61nqK/view

As you know, Stanley Meyer`s VIC have "open core" /broken ferrite core/:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ykz3u-AXmEBKW5KPRY6XV57-doJkc6Av/view

In this picture it can be seen, that the broken ferrite core, is not between Primary coil and Choke C2:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11gXU1NuJnCabAoyMwv1jdVN7is-deIzr/view


The "broken ferrite core", must be between the Secondary coil and Choke C1.
This is also indicated by the blue color of the core tape - it is near to the "blue coil" - the Secondary coil.

If "closed ferrite core" is used, the waveform is extremely "unsymmetrical":
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LJPC-crWwguP0NpQa_PzjbWG7ShwDGUY/view


By changing the number of windings of C1 and C2, it is fine-tuned the Resonant signal`s DC Offset, but "coarse" balancing is done, with an "open ferrite core"!

VIC Coils direction:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1815MGpor7KOemrd9Kwem-go09n1n7GFF/view

https://youtu.be/MKyqzXUJlDw

 Pics for above

This was useful for me, https://youtu.be/VfSc15_XjiQ

There was discussion in one of the threads that the VIC coils act like a flyback transformer.  There was also discussion about what the gaps do.  Ronnie posted this:

Re: "Understanding How Stan Meyers Fuel Cell Works"
« Reply #606, on November 11th, 2016, 11:33 AM »Last edited on November 11th, 2016, 11:35 AM
Getting back to Stan's Vic, can everyone see how the gap between the cores controls the coupling from the Primary to the Secondary which in return controls and fine tunes the voltage in the secondary and L1. And if you follow through with this to the positive plate, it also fine tunes the charge on that plate.

Re: "Understanding How Stan Meyers Fuel Cell Works"
« Reply #608, on November 11th, 2016, 11:44 AM »Last edited on November 11th, 2016, 12:07 PM
Ady15 because it is you, I will tell you all the variables you can control with the dual setup like you have.

1: on one core you have the primary and L2 choke coupled together. You can control the inductance of L2 by grinding one of the legs by a thousands or two and even more if you need to. But don't grind the leg the primary is on. whatever you grind on the L2 leg place a brass or copper spacer of the same thickness as you ground off. That is one adjustment you can make to control the inductance of L2. Then you have turns you can take off or add to on the L2, that is another adjustment you can make.
2: you can repeat the same on the L1 choke leg by grinding some off and placing a spacer of the same amount you ground off but don't grind the secondary leg That allows you to control the inductance of L1. You can also add or take turns off the L2 choke.
3: place the primary close to the secondary move them as close to each other as you can. pulling them apart from one another is another adjustment you can make.
4: taking turns off the secondary and add turns is another adjustment you can make.

So now do you see what all you can do with the two core setup?
Now with that being said we need to get back to Stan's Vic in order to see what all these adjustments do.

What Ronnie is saying here is the gap can be used to adjust the inductance of the cokes.  There is more on this later in the thread.  He also states this is a fine tuning adjustment.

I just cut this out of my document that is a collection of things from this thread.  I just searched gap to find it.  Build the document so I could search for things.

Earl

Thank you Earl very helpful reminder

Dan

Thanks Earl. Very handy to have. I have now received the cores to test so hope to make some progress over the holidays. Cutting the cores might be challenging but I am sure I will have some tooling to do it.

I Dremel will do it but be very careful to not inhale the dust. 

Yes. Good point. I have some diamond tooling that should do it. Any indication on gap distance? It looks to be pretty close tolerance from the image but it's difficult to tell

This is one of those items that there was not much information about in here.  I did some testing in my thread VIC Coils from Pieces where I built the coils using multiple flat ferrite pieces.  With that set up I did not need to grind ferrite as I could adjust gap by just changing the spacers.  I have all the steps I followed in a word document (98 pages with all construction steps and tests I did with pictures and scope shots) most information is in thread.  I even did some tests with different gaps to see what would happen.  I expect gap size will vary for each set up.   

I did find a couple of good articles on saturation of coils that a sort of understood when I was reading them.

I knew I would most likely need to rebuild the coils when I had a set of cells as coils need to match capacitance of the cells.  I in the process of trying to build cells now.  Just purchased the acrylic tube and end caps for that tube.   Doing testing on stainless steel tube length. 

I now have a 3D printer will use it to print coils and ferrite holders in next version.

We should talk as it sounds like we are both currently working on similar things.

Note:  I have word documents for most things.  When I post test results in here I usually write in word document first the copy it in here so I have a  record I can reference and search.

Earl
Earl

Sounds good Earl. Yes it does sound like we are at similar stages and I too need a test cell. I should have something together by the new year and thanks for the point towards more information. One last question, the pictures above of the VIC from petkovs video. I assume these are photographs from Meyer Estate? I should be able to guage some measurements from those if so

Russ posted a link to pictures and other files from Meyer Estate.  That link also has patent documents and schematics for sum of the circuits.  If you do not have that link, I can point you to it.  I have downloaded all of it to my computer so I can quickly reference it.  Many other have spent countless hours trying to duplicate Meyers work.  As far as taking measurements others have already done that trick is finding those in here.

Earl

I Wish Every one a Great Christmas and Happy New Year 2023

Warmest Regards
Dan

Same to you