Step by step VIC build

firepinto

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #75, on December 27th, 2011, 09:46 PM »
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I gave my 6 in 1 round bobbins a test print today.:)  They look like they could work, but since I printed all the pieces at the same time they have a lot of globs to clean off.  Some fine tuning with a file is needed to get the pieces to go together.  Being so much smaller than the snap together spool I sent Russ, they don't have much flex.  I actually pressed a couple pieces together with a vice.  
I think if we find a ferrite core to use with a design like this, a larger diameter would make assembling the bobbins easier.  There isn't much room for me to tweak tolerances, since the center core walls are 2 mm thick .. and the walls for the joints are 1 mm thick.  With a .5 mm nozzle that only leaves room for 2 beads of plastic at the joints.  Thicker walls could be done, but I assume that the windings are better if they are closer to the core?  

Nate

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #76, on December 28th, 2011, 07:13 AM »
Quote from firepinto on December 27th, 2011, 09:46 PM
I gave my 6 in 1 round bobbins a test print today.:)  They look like they could work, but since I printed all the pieces at the same time they have a lot of globs to clean off.  Some fine tuning with a file is needed to get the pieces to go together.  Being so much smaller than the snap together spool I sent Russ, they don't have much flex.  I actually pressed a couple pieces together with a vice.  
I think if we find a ferrite core to use with a design like this, a larger diameter would make assembling the bobbins easier.  There isn't much room for me to tweak tolerances, since the center core walls are 2 mm thick .. and the walls for the joints are 1 mm thick.  With a .5 mm nozzle that only leaves room for 2 beads of plastic at the joints.  Thicker walls could be done, but I assume that the windings are better if they are closer to the core?  

Nate
verry nice nate!

it dose appear you could use some cleaning up on those...

why is some so sloppy and some really nice?

i know on the pieces you sent me some are really nice and some not?

it the printer doing that or is it the tolerances of the motors or what?

any how fantastic!

~Russ

PS. Merry Christmas !!!!  


firepinto

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #77, on December 28th, 2011, 08:27 AM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 28th, 2011, 07:13 AM
Quote from firepinto on December 27th, 2011, 09:46 PM
I gave my 6 in 1 round bobbins a test print today.:)  They look like they could work, but since I printed all the pieces at the same time they have a lot of globs to clean off.  Some fine tuning with a file is needed to get the pieces to go together.  Being so much smaller than the snap together spool I sent Russ, they don't have much flex.  I actually pressed a couple pieces together with a vice.  
I think if we find a ferrite core to use with a design like this, a larger diameter would make assembling the bobbins easier.  There isn't much room for me to tweak tolerances, since the center core walls are 2 mm thick .. and the walls for the joints are 1 mm thick.  With a .5 mm nozzle that only leaves room for 2 beads of plastic at the joints.  Thicker walls could be done, but I assume that the windings are better if they are closer to the core?  

Nate
verry nice nate!

it dose appear you could use some cleaning up on those...

why is some so sloppy and some really nice?

i know on the pieces you sent me some are really nice and some not?

it the printer doing that or is it the tolerances of the motors or what?

any how fantastic!

~Russ

PS. Merry Christmas !!!!
The sloppiness on this set is because I made and STL file with all the pieces needed to make one complete set.  When the print head moves from one piece to the other a little "ooze" leaks out of the nozzle and stretches between the  parts.  Printing the pieces one by one would make them a lot cleaner, but takes much longer.  Now that I have the heated bed working, I have to wait for the bed to cool off before removing parts.  Otherwise they bend easily at 60 C.  Most other sloppiness I think is caused by the nozzle.  I'm hoping going to a smaller one will make prints much cleaner.  There are probably other settings I'm not aware of that could fix that too.

Nate

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #78, on December 28th, 2011, 11:11 AM »
[/quote]The sloppiness on this set is because I made and STL file with all the pieces needed to make one complete set.  When the print head moves from one piece to the other a little "ooze" leaks out of the nozzle and stretches between the  parts.  Printing the pieces one by one would make them a lot cleaner, but takes much longer.  Now that I have the heated bed working, I have to wait for the bed to cool off before removing parts.  Otherwise they bend easily at 60 C.  Most other sloppiness I think is caused by the nozzle.  I'm hoping going to a smaller one will make prints much cleaner.  There are probably other settings I'm not aware of that could fix that too.

Nate[/quote]OK Nate!

i was just wondering! i did not know how that worked but that makes sense. also can you make the round edges more round? is that the limit of your motor of the software?

looks good any how nate!

~Russ

firepinto

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #79, on December 28th, 2011, 12:07 PM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 28th, 2011, 11:11 AM
The sloppiness on this set is because I made and STL file with all the pieces needed to make one complete set.  When the print head moves from one piece to the other a little "ooze" leaks out of the nozzle and stretches between the  parts.  Printing the pieces one by one would make them a lot cleaner, but takes much longer.  Now that I have the heated bed working, I have to wait for the bed to cool off before removing parts.  Otherwise they bend easily at 60 C.  Most other sloppiness I think is caused by the nozzle.  I'm hoping going to a smaller one will make prints much cleaner.  There are probably other settings I'm not aware of that could fix that too.

Nate[/quote]OK Nate!

i was just wondering! i did not know how that worked but that makes sense. also can you make the round edges more round? is that the limit of your motor of the software?

looks good any how nate!

~Russ[/quote]Thanks Russ!
The roundness would have to be done in the sketchup file.:)  The larger the circle, the more faces that would have to be added to keep it more round.  I created a gear for my new printer that I used a lot more faces, and it turned out really smooth in the center.  Definitely going to be some learning and tweaking along the way.:D

Nate

DanB

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #80, on January 3rd, 2012, 03:47 PM »
haxar very nice job on the schematic, I know what a pain it is to trace circuit boards. Do you have any idea where the 2N3055 TO3 transistor fits into the mix? I see all the pancake VICs have one.

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #81, on January 3rd, 2012, 09:19 PM »
Quote from DanB on January 3rd, 2012, 03:47 PM
haxar very nice job on the schematic, I know what a pain it is to trace circuit boards. Do you have any idea where the 2N3055 TO3 transistor fits into the mix? I see all the pancake VICs have one.
99% sure its for the voltage control here: see attachment

waqas148

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #82, on January 4th, 2012, 01:20 PM »Last edited on January 4th, 2012, 01:34 PM by waqas148
Quote from haxar on November 16th, 2011, 07:45 PM
Quote from h2opower on November 16th, 2011, 07:29 PM
I have a question, in looking at the circuit R47 220 can't be correct can it? For if a resistor is place across an inductor doesn't that bypass the inductor? As that looks like a resistor hooked up from positive straight to ground. Also R21 and R36 seem to be hooked up oddly. I am not all the great with circuits but I do know electronics okay.

h2opower
Yes, R47 is wired across the primary coil to restrict current heating up the coil. The resistor should reference this post by Dynodon on ionizationx:
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As for the 220 ohm resister,they were wired across the primary to restrict the current feeding it.10.5 ohms will make the coil heat up with 12 volts feeding it.Some of the coil pacts had three resistors across the primary,all of them were 220 ohm.The largest one was a 5 watt.
Don

The 220 ohm resistors were like I said wired across the primary coil(parallel).A friend had talked with a coil manufacture,and they told him that 10.5 ohms coil would get hot,then he asked them what would happen if you were to wire a 220 ohm resistor across it,and he stated that it would run cooler.Not my words.
Source: http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,1305.msg19079.html#msg19079
I found several mistakes in the Haxar's posted schematic (although i know its not deliberately done!!! ;) ) so i thought to share a tested schematic which actually lock on to the resonance frequency!!!! ..... feel free to ask any question!!! ;)

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #83, on January 4th, 2012, 11:34 PM »
Quote from waqas148 on January 4th, 2012, 01:20 PM
Quote from haxar on November 16th, 2011, 07:45 PM
Quote from h2opower on November 16th, 2011, 07:29 PM
I have a question, in looking at the circuit R47 220 can't be correct can it? For if a resistor is place across an inductor doesn't that bypass the inductor? As that looks like a resistor hooked up from positive straight to ground. Also R21 and R36 seem to be hooked up oddly. I am not all the great with circuits but I do know electronics okay.

h2opower
Yes, R47 is wired across the primary coil to restrict current heating up the coil. The resistor should reference this post by Dynodon on ionizationx:
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As for the 220 ohm resister,they were wired across the primary to restrict the current feeding it.10.5 ohms will make the coil heat up with 12 volts feeding it.Some of the coil pacts had three resistors across the primary,all of them were 220 ohm.The largest one was a 5 watt.
Don

The 220 ohm resistors were like I said wired across the primary coil(parallel).A friend had talked with a coil manufacture,and they told him that 10.5 ohms coil would get hot,then he asked them what would happen if you were to wire a 220 ohm resistor across it,and he stated that it would run cooler.Not my words.
Source: http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,1305.msg19079.html#msg19079
I found several mistakes in the Haxar's posted schematic (although i know its not deliberately done!!! ;) ) so i thought to share a tested schematic which actually lock on to the resonance frequency!!!! ..... feel free to ask any question!!! ;)
fantastic everyone!!!! just fantastic!!!!

now, we need some video!!! :)

also on the driver circuit. i build that and not much luck. yours work well?

and on the feedback coil, Stan's was not wires like that it was a one 2 wire thing. but if it works ... Sweet!

I'm saying this as its what i have seen from the sketches that don (dynodon) made of the Vic from when he had it.

are you running a cell or just pulsing something else?

if a cell, are you making gas?

and lastly dose the resonant frequency change constantly?
 
good work!! ~Russ

haxar

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #84, on January 5th, 2012, 01:47 AM »
Quote from waqas148 on January 4th, 2012, 01:20 PM
I found several mistakes in the Haxar's posted schematic (although i know its not deliberately done!!! ;) )
What is the mistake or inconsistency with the current "functional" VIC schematic? The VIC schematic in its current state has not been tested yet as I need to build a hydroxy cell and the VIC coil pack to test it.

Revised versions (patches) of the schematic are welcome by the way.

waqas148

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #85, on January 5th, 2012, 07:33 AM »Last edited on January 5th, 2012, 07:49 AM by waqas148
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fantastic everyone!!!! just fantastic!!!!

now, we need some video!!! :)

also on the driver circuit. i build that and not much luck. yours work well?

and on the feedback coil, Stan's was not wires like that it was a one 2 wire thing. but if it works ... Sweet!

I'm saying this as its what i have seen from the sketches that don (dynodon) made of the Vic from when he had it.

are you running a cell or just pulsing something else?

if a cell, are you making gas?

and lastly dose the resonant frequency change constantly?
 
good work!! ~Russ
Hi Russ!!!! good to hear from you :)
I am currently working on PIC Micro-controller based VIC resonant scanner circuit .... its been quite sometime i used this posted schematic and it worked.... its not my design so i will not get credit for it, its a team work (including dynodon) being done almost an year ago on another Research Forum.... I just made it available to this Forum cheers!!! :)
but I will answer your questions one by one :
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on the driver circuit. i build that and not much luck. yours work well?
The driver circuit in the posted schematic works well with Bipolar Transistors.... use exact values as specified.
If you use a MOSFET as a Driver then see the attached schematic that i use to drive it perfectly ;)
MOSFET Driver is RECOMMENDED !!!
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on the feedback coil, Stan's was not wires like that it was a one 2 wire thing
I used a center tapped pickup coil as showed in schematic.... but two wire could also be done just a little change to the opamp feedback circuit.... basically the output of the opamp feedback generates the square wave signal whose frequency is equal to the natural oscillation of the transformer when the transformer is driven for the first time... then the RESONANT SCANNER CIRCUIT in the schematic tries to catch up with it using PLL and Locks on when both frequencies matches up.
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are you running a cell or just pulsing something else?
if a cell, are you making gas?
YES!!! i am running a single tube cell and YES!!! i am making gas ... but my setup doesn't have a VIC transformer... i am using bifiler Choke driven by P-Channel MOSFET on High side and wounded pickup coil on the core....  my gas production is a little greater than the dynodon's video.... with 12V 0.6Amps ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtf7y6cH7SE

Most Recently i will do a video of my own with my MICRO-CONTROLLER resonance circuit ;)
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and lastly dose the resonant frequency change constantly?
Not frequently!!! it changes as soon as i put some electrolyte :)


Quote from haxar on January 5th, 2012, 01:47 AM
Quote from waqas148 on January 4th, 2012, 01:20 PM
I found several mistakes in the Haxar's posted schematic (although i know its not deliberately done!!! ;) )
What is the mistake or inconsistency with the current "functional" VIC schematic? The VIC schematic in its current state has not been tested yet as I need to build a hydroxy cell and the VIC coil pack to test it.

Revised versions (patches) of the schematic are welcome by the way.
Hi Haxar!!! by mistakes i didn't meant to object you... its simply the values of components that need to be changed and like the R47 should be in series with primary.....etc etc
 as i dont have the software in which you built your schematic so plz make modifications to your schematic by looking at my posted schematic because the one i posted works 100% and tested by at least 5 guys around the world :)

keep up the good work guys!!!!!! we can do it and we will do it even better ;)
Have a nice day :)



Sharky

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #86, on January 6th, 2012, 03:48 PM »
Quote from haxar on January 5th, 2012, 01:47 AM
Quote from waqas148 on January 4th, 2012, 01:20 PM
I found several mistakes in the Haxar's posted schematic (although i know its not deliberately done!!! ;) )
What is the mistake or inconsistency with the current "functional" VIC schematic? The VIC schematic in its current state has not been tested yet as I need to build a hydroxy cell and the VIC coil pack to test it.

Revised versions (patches) of the schematic are welcome by the way.
Hi Haxar,
I am building the circuit from your schematic to test it. I was wondering why there is 10V at various places. I would expect 5V or 12V but not 10V. Is that neccesary or can i replace them with 12V. I am hooking up the circuit to a car battery and have also a 7805 to generate the 5V.



haxar

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #87, on January 7th, 2012, 02:02 AM »
Quote from Sharky on January 6th, 2012, 03:48 PM
Hi Haxar,
I am building the circuit from your schematic to test it. I was wondering why there is 10V at various places. I would expect 5V or 12V but not 10V. Is that neccesary or can i replace them with 12V. I am hooking up the circuit to a car battery and have also a 7805 to generate the 5V.
The whole VIC circuit can be powered at 5 volts.

The 7400 series TTL chips can only be powered at 5 volts. The 4000 series CMOS chips can also be powered at 5 volts and are designed to be powered at 10 volts and greater (to 15 volts).

There are also some spots, specifically in Stan's international patent WO92/07861 (figure 8 - resonant scanning circuit), that hints to use 10 volts but obviously testing is needed to determine if 10 volts is necessary.

Sharky

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #88, on January 7th, 2012, 06:13 AM »
Quote from haxar on January 7th, 2012, 02:02 AM
Quote from Sharky on January 6th, 2012, 03:48 PM
Hi Haxar,
I am building the circuit from your schematic to test it. I was wondering why there is 10V at various places. I would expect 5V or 12V but not 10V. Is that neccesary or can i replace them with 12V. I am hooking up the circuit to a car battery and have also a 7805 to generate the 5V.
The whole VIC circuit can be powered at 5 volts.

The 7400 series TTL chips can only be powered at 5 volts. The 4000 series CMOS chips can also be powered at 5 volts and are designed to be powered at 10 volts and greater (to 15 volts).

There are also some spots, specifically in Stan's international patent WO92/07861 (figure 8 - resonant scanning circuit), that hints to use 10 volts but obviously testing is needed to determine if 10 volts is necessary.
Ok, thats clear, i already have all TTL IC's at 5V, i was hinting more to the 10V in the cell driver part. The TIP120 is connected to 12V but i was wondering why the other transistors are connected to 10V and not 12V as well. The datasheet seems to indicate they have no problem with 12V instead of 10V. I was just wondering if there is a reason to use the 10V at those points that i am not aware off.


KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #89, on January 9th, 2012, 01:09 PM »Last edited on January 9th, 2012, 01:46 PM by KevinW_EnhancedLiving
Thanks Haxar and Waqas148 for the schematics

Haxar, Can you post a high res photo of your schematic please. Also A white background makes it more printer friendly :). Also what are your thoughts to Waqas148 possible corrections to your schematics? are you in agreement?

Waqas148 is there a PCB Board for your shematic in the works? , Russ Wants one as well... I'd be willing to make put it together on Express PCB. I also don't completely understand the circuit yet.

Waqas148 I highly recommend ExpressPCB and ExpressSCH for drawing schematics and PCB's. These were Russ's recomendations, and after downloading just about every program, this was my top pick as well and especially for userability.
---How too make custom parts. Select Part, Go to Component/Ungroup Component  turn them into whatever you want, then Regroup.. and presto.     and Its totally free, so easy to share and edit with one another
http://www.expresspcb.com/
You can find examples of my work with these programs here
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=178


Offtopic:
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haxar

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #90, on January 9th, 2012, 02:03 PM »
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 9th, 2012, 01:09 PM
Haxar, Can you post a high res photo of your schematic please. Also A white background makes it more printer friendly :). Also what are your thoughts to Waqas148 possible corrections to your schematics? are you in agreement?
A PDF of the schematic is there when you click on the image at post #27 in this thread; here is the direct link to the PDF:

http://www.open-source-energy.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=495

I don't see any "corrections" to be made at this point as testing of the VIC circuit has not begun yet due to the VIC transformer.

Sharky

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #91, on January 9th, 2012, 02:05 PM »
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 9th, 2012, 01:09 PM
Thanks Haxar and Waqas148 for the schematics

Haxar, Can you post a high res photo of your schematic please. Also A white background makes it more printer friendly :). Also what are your thoughts to Waqas148 possible corrections to your schematics? are you in agreement?

Waqas148 is there a PCB Board for your shematic in the works? , Russ Wants one as well... I'd be willing to make put it together on Express PCB. I also don't completely understand the circuit yet.

Waqas148 I highly recommend ExpressPCB and ExpressSCH for drawing schematics and PCB's. These were Russ's recomendations, and after downloading just about every program, this was my top pick as well and especially for userability.
---How too make custom parts. Select Part, Go to Component/Ungroup Component  turn them into whatever you want, then Regroup.. and presto.     and Its totally free, so easy to share and edit with one another
http://www.expresspcb.com/
You can find examples of my work with these programs here
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=178


Offtopic:
Check out this crazy Deal!! After Blowing my UBS Scope this is my next buy...
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/220817846900?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
An other question about the Haxar schematic, ... the 74122 is not present on the VIC card, is it a replacement part or did you change the schematic after doing the trace of the vic card?
RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #92, on January 9th, 2012, 02:08 PM »
Quote from haxar on January 9th, 2012, 02:03 PM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 9th, 2012, 01:09 PM
Haxar, Can you post a high res photo of your schematic please. Also A white background makes it more printer friendly :). Also what are your thoughts to Waqas148 possible corrections to your schematics? are you in agreement?
A PDF of the schematic is there when you click on the image at post #27 in this thread; here is the direct link to the PDF:

http://www.open-source-energy.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=495

I don't see any "corrections" to be made at this point as testing of the VIC circuit has not begun yet due to the VIC transformer.
An other question about the Haxar schematic, ... the 74122 is not present on the VIC card, is it a replacement part or did you change the schematic after doing the trace of the vic card?

haxar

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #93, on January 9th, 2012, 05:46 PM »
Quote from Sharky on January 9th, 2012, 02:08 PM
An other question about the Haxar schematic, ... the 74122 is not present on the VIC card, is it a replacement part or did you change the schematic after doing the trace of the vic card?
The Variable Pulse Frequency and the Gated Pulse Frequency sub-circuits are a part of the Gas Management System unit which connect to the VIC unit, not a part of the VIC card.

shadowfc

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #94, on January 10th, 2012, 03:42 AM »
Quote from haxar on January 9th, 2012, 05:46 PM
Quote from Sharky on January 9th, 2012, 02:08 PM
An other question about the Haxar schematic, ... the 74122 is not present on the VIC card, is it a replacement part or did you change the schematic after doing the trace of the vic card?
The Variable Pulse Frequency and the Gated Pulse Frequency sub-circuits are a part of the Gas Management System unit which connect to the VIC unit, not a part of the VIC card.
Thanks for your work, Haxar! I have a question about Gated Pulse Freq Generator: could i use a 74123 instead of 74122 with some modifications?

waqas148

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #95, on January 11th, 2012, 11:34 AM »
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 9th, 2012, 01:09 PM
Waqas148 is there a PCB Board for your shematic in the works? , Russ Wants one as well... I'd be willing to make put it together on Express PCB. I also don't completely understand the circuit yet.

Waqas148 I highly recommend ExpressPCB and ExpressSCH for drawing schematics and PCB's. These were Russ's recomendations, and after downloading just about every program, this was my top pick as well and especially for userability.
---How too make custom parts. Select Part, Go to Component/Ungroup Component  turn them into whatever you want, then Regroup.. and presto.     and Its totally free, so easy to share and edit with one another
http://www.expresspcb.com/
You can find examples of my work with these programs here
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=178


Offtopic:
Check out this crazy Deal!! After Blowing my UBS Scope this is my next buy...
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/220817846900?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Hi kevin!!
i currently dont have any PCB of the schematic... as i built it on the Bread Board to test it.... but i would try to make a PCB of it asap but i think it would take time coz i as i said before that i am currently working on a PIC micro based circuit and nowadays i am working on its PCB ( i use Proteus for PCB)
and lastly
thanx for the advice ... i will look at the ExpressPCB software...  ;)
RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #96, on January 11th, 2012, 11:35 AM »
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 9th, 2012, 01:09 PM
Waqas148 is there a PCB Board for your shematic in the works? , Russ Wants one as well... I'd be willing to make put it together on Express PCB. I also don't completely understand the circuit yet.

Waqas148 I highly recommend ExpressPCB and ExpressSCH for drawing schematics and PCB's. These were Russ's recomendations, and after downloading just about every program, this was my top pick as well and especially for userability.
---How too make custom parts. Select Part, Go to Component/Ungroup Component  turn them into whatever you want, then Regroup.. and presto.     and Its totally free, so easy to share and edit with one another
Hi kevin!!
i currently dont have any PCB of the schematic... as i built it on the Bread Board to test it.... but i would try to make a PCB of it asap but i think it would take time coz i as i said before that i am currently working on a PIC micro based circuit and nowadays i am working on its PCB ( i use Proteus for PCB)
and lastly
thanx for the advice ... i will look at the ExpressPCB software...  ;)

phil

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #97, on January 11th, 2012, 12:21 PM »
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 9th, 2012, 01:09 PM
Thanks Haxar and Waqas148 for the schematics

Haxar, Can you post a high res photo of your schematic please. Also A white background makes it more printer friendly :). Also what are your thoughts to Waqas148 possible corrections to your schematics? are you in agreement?

Waqas148 is there a PCB Board for your shematic in the works? , Russ Wants one as well... I'd be willing to make put it together on Express PCB. I also don't completely understand the circuit yet.

Waqas148 I highly recommend ExpressPCB and ExpressSCH for drawing schematics and PCB's. These were Russ's recomendations, and after downloading just about every program, this was my top pick as well and especially for userability.
---How too make custom parts. Select Part, Go to Component/Ungroup Component  turn them into whatever you want, then Regroup.. and presto.     and Its totally free, so easy to share and edit with one another
http://www.expresspcb.com/
You can find examples of my work with these programs here
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=178


Offtopic:
Check out this crazy Deal!! After Blowing my UBS Scope this is my next buy...
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/220817846900?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Id never used an pcb software before or even etched a board myself, board turned out perfect 1st time, its only half assembled tho. I should really get on and finish it just got so many other bits and pieces going on just now.

Sharky

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #98, on January 11th, 2012, 11:08 PM »
Quote from waqas148 on January 11th, 2012, 11:35 AM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 9th, 2012, 01:09 PM
Waqas148 is there a PCB Board for your shematic in the works? , Russ Wants one as well... I'd be willing to make put it together on Express PCB. I also don't completely understand the circuit yet.

Waqas148 I highly recommend ExpressPCB and ExpressSCH for drawing schematics and PCB's. These were Russ's recomendations, and after downloading just about every program, this was my top pick as well and especially for userability.
---How too make custom parts. Select Part, Go to Component/Ungroup Component  turn them into whatever you want, then Regroup.. and presto.     and Its totally free, so easy to share and edit with one another
Hi kevin!!
i currently dont have any PCB of the schematic... as i built it on the Bread Board to test it.... but i would try to make a PCB of it asap but i think it would take time coz i as i said before that i am currently working on a PIC micro based circuit and nowadays i am working on its PCB ( i use Proteus for PCB)
and lastly
thanx for the advice ... i will look at the ExpressPCB software...  ;)
Kevin, Russ,
ExpressPCB is usefull for simple pcb design but lacks a lot of important functions like simulation, autorouter, gerber files.I think there is a need to decide on which software to use. I think there are two good alternatives (both open source software):
- gEDA suite (linux-mac, partial windows binaries available)
- KiCAD (all platforms)

Any ideas on this?

waqas148

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #99, on January 12th, 2012, 12:12 AM »
Quote from Sharky on January 11th, 2012, 11:08 PM
Quote from waqas148 on January 11th, 2012, 11:35 AM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 9th, 2012, 01:09 PM
Waqas148 is there a PCB Board for your shematic in the works? , Russ Wants one as well... I'd be willing to make put it together on Express PCB. I also don't completely understand the circuit yet.

Waqas148 I highly recommend ExpressPCB and ExpressSCH for drawing schematics and PCB's. These were Russ's recomendations, and after downloading just about every program, this was my top pick as well and especially for userability.
---How too make custom parts. Select Part, Go to Component/Ungroup Component  turn them into whatever you want, then Regroup.. and presto.     and Its totally free, so easy to share and edit with one another
Hi kevin!!
i currently dont have any PCB of the schematic... as i built it on the Bread Board to test it.... but i would try to make a PCB of it asap but i think it would take time coz i as i said before that i am currently working on a PIC micro based circuit and nowadays i am working on its PCB ( i use Proteus for PCB)
and lastly
thanx for the advice ... i will look at the ExpressPCB software...  ;)
Kevin, Russ,
ExpressPCB is usefull for simple pcb design but lacks a lot of important functions like simulation, autorouter, gerber files.I think there is a need to decide on which software to use. I think there are two good alternatives (both open source software):
- gEDA suite (linux-mac, partial windows binaries available)
- KiCAD (all platforms)

Any ideas on this?
hi !!!
i use proteus, which has simulation autoplacer, autorouter , gerber output , pdf output and many more... but its a little expensive to buy... else someone downloads the portable version :P