Quote from Ray Don on February 8th, 2013, 05:04 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on February 6th, 2013, 08:00 PM

Quote from Dog-One on February 6th, 2013, 07:59 PM

Quote from hydrofuelincanada on February 6th, 2013, 07:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=003TrflPvqY&lc=3bPSBg8editGCSAWn45oJRGUPFSEeAz7lqppAeyIjKY

Check out this video by Max Miller

Awesome work on this project !

HHO IS REAL

Think you can get irondmax's full specs so we can replicate?

He's not open source.

maybe he is open source and you never watched his video on how to do that!

Well his video is here and I did watch it, but he gave nothing , no data as to how it was done, so is that open source, no. I have nothing against Max or anyone else for that matter, but this is an open source forum, where data is shared and most here agree with this :D

Quote from hydrofuelincanada on February 8th, 2013, 05:32 AM

Quote from Ray Don on February 8th, 2013, 05:04 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on February 6th, 2013, 08:00 PM

Quote from Dog-One on February 6th, 2013, 07:59 PM

Quote from hydrofuelincanada on February 6th, 2013, 07:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=003TrflPvqY&lc=3bPSBg8editGCSAWn45oJRGUPFSEeAz7lqppAeyIjKY

Check out this video by Max Miller

Awesome work on this project !

HHO IS REAL

Think you can get irondmax's full specs so we can replicate?

He's not open source.

maybe he is open source and you never watched his video on how to do that!

Project Icarus is not allowed to post his stuff here because he sells project Icarus ,Nobody is allowed to post here if they are selling something.
Project Icarus is not allowed to post his work here because he sells stuff, No one is allowed to post here if they sell stuff.

Quote from Ray Don on February 8th, 2013, 05:04 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on February 6th, 2013, 08:00 PM

Quote from Dog-One on February 6th, 2013, 07:59 PM

Quote from hydrofuelincanada on February 6th, 2013, 07:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=003TrflPvqY&lc=3bPSBg8editGCSAWn45oJRGUPFSEeAz7lqppAeyIjKY

Check out this video by Max Miller

Awesome work on this project !

HHO IS REAL

Think you can get irondmax's full specs so we can replicate?

He's not open source.

maybe he is open source and you never watched his video on how to do that!

Project Icarus is not allowed to post here because he sells stuff, no one is allowed to post here if they are selling stuff.

All,

First of all let's please continue this discussion but let's do it over at the proper form/thread

http://open-source-energy.org/?fid=38

Make a new thread call it what you want and post the problems discussions improvements and such over there. This is not the thread to be doing so I will post this message with my thoughts and then the replies need to be over there please

First and foremost. If you're selling something and it's not open source where I can build it for myself next to where it says by now that it's not theoretically open source. The rules of this forum do not say if you're not open-source you cannot post here. What they say is this is not a place for free advertising. If your project is completely open source as in anyone can build Build the entire thing with the information you have provided and your selling a kit then you can post that here. Unfortunately I started this forum under an open source environment. I'm not against those people who are selling things whether I think it's right or wrong doesn't really matter the fact is this form is completely open source.

This form was created for an open source platform for everyone to come join learn and get their thoughts. Unfortunately it comes with drawbacks. One of those being this situation right here. If you don't like it I do apologize but that was not my intention. My intention was not to weed out those who are not open source.

Now please reply on the roundtable. Have a discussion be nice about it and maybe we'll come up with some sort of a solution I really don't know but I know if we don't talk about it nothing will change
And if we don't talk about it with an open mind people are just going to get their feelings hurt. If it comes down to that then it's not really worth doing is it.

Now continue playing nice I'll see you over at the other thread

~Russ

Quote from hydrofuelincanada on February 8th, 2013, 05:32 AM

Project Icarus is not allowed to post here because he sells stuff, no one is allowed to post here if they are selling stuff.

If he wants to post the schematics for his circuit here then he's more than welcome to do so.

Quote from Jeff Nading on February 8th, 2013, 10:21 AM

Don't understand why you are talking in the second person there Ed, AKA Edward  = h2OPower :D

5LQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG0hhJT-5LQ

LMFAO
is that really cussing?
LOL

sometimes as the monkeys we all are, we can not see the forest through the trees.http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhRkMcmFb3U

i been open source longer then most of you even new about meyers stuff
LMFAO
here is meyers display unit how to, circuit is shown , schematic, and how to. the inductor for this is also shown in video. all openly posted, and clear details. make it yourself or buy it, its there. thing is if you make it yourself, you still have to spend money to buy parts and time to make it.
LOL
ICARUS IS ALL OVER THOSE VIC INFO
max AKA the monkey

all, back to the topic...

i moved most of the off topic stuff here:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=1006

if you want to view it.

now this thread is called  

 VIC Coil

lets try to stick to that...

it seemed that there was some videos posted that max has posted... looks like progress! good work max.

~Russ

Quote from Webmug on February 8th, 2013, 02:58 AM

Quote from hydrofuelincanada on February 6th, 2013, 07:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=003TrflPvqY&lc=3bPSBg8editGCSAWn45oJRGUPFSEeAz7lqppAeyIjKY

Check out this video by Max Miller

Awesome work on this project !

HHO IS REAL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpwDdzEkiZE
30V 300mA!!!!!!

/watch?v=hVn_TRH59lI
242V!!!!!!!!

Regards,
Webmug

well i have decided to show you exactly how to reproduce this wave form and give you the information on how to do it.
keep in mind this is a free meyer media link(open sourced)

http://stanleymeyermedia.com/new/documentation/Patents/SMeyer-
WO9207861A1-International_Patent.pdf

for some reason my video how toos were removed, they had schematics and video of how it worked and what to do. i guess whoever removed them did not want the others to know how to do it. so i will not bother to put them back up.

lastly, i would like to say that no one here uses, there real names.
irondmax is my business name, i used to be an iron worker, by trade(high steel)
ray don is my forum name(none of you use your real name
and that ed guy you deleted his post, he loved you guys, and his last name was not mitchell. i bet he is heart broken. good job on kicking him where it hurts.

"children have much to learn, adults can admit, that they do as well"

Quote from Ray Don on February 11th, 2013, 05:28 AM

Quote from Webmug on February 8th, 2013, 02:58 AM

Quote from hydrofuelincanada on February 6th, 2013, 07:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=003TrflPvqY&lc=3bPSBg8editGCSAWn45oJRGUPFSEeAz7lqppAeyIjKY

Check out this video by Max Miller

Awesome work on this project !

HHO IS REAL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpwDdzEkiZE
30V 300mA!!!!!!

/watch?v=hVn_TRH59lI
242V!!!!!!!!

Regards,
Webmug

well i have decided to show you exactly how to reproduce this wave form and give you the information on how to do it.
keep in mind this is a free meyer media link(open sourced)

http://stanleymeyermedia.com/new/documentation/Patents/SMeyer-
WO9207861A1-International_Patent.pdf

for some reason my video how toos were removed, they had schematics and video of how it worked and what to do. i guess whoever removed them did not want the others to know how to do it. so i will not bother to put them back up.

lastly, i would like to say that no one here uses, there real names.
irondmax is my business name, i used to be an iron worker, by trade(high steel)
ray don is my forum name(none of you use your real name
and that ed guy you deleted his post, he loved you guys, and his last name was not mitchell. i bet he is heart broken. good job on kicking him where it hurts.

"children have much to learn, adults can admit, that they do as well"

Hello Max, nice to meet you. People here don't use their real name because they don't have to. If they'd like to they can do so. That's really up to them but this post isn't really about that.

Thanks for posting the link we will check it out.

How could somebody remove your videos? Did somebody hack your account?

Lastly and a bit off topic so I may have to move these as well. That guy named Ed. Unfortunately registered with the same info as H2Opower. There are ways to check theses things. I kindly asked him to prove to me that he was not H2Opower and he declined. So according to the rules he was banned. This was not a personal choice but a choice of the form rules.

Also everything that ed guy posted is still posted. Nothing was removed. Everything posted by H2Opower was demanded to be removed actually threatened to be removed or I would be personally sued. That's an unfortunate situation I try not to look back on because I do not like what happen there. That was a learning experience as a new form owner. I learned my lesson and unfortunately it just is the way it is now.

Thanks ~Russ

Quote from Ray Don on February 11th, 2013, 05:28 AM

well i have decided to show you exactly how to reproduce this wave form and give you the information on how to do it.
keep in mind this is a free meyer media link(open sourced)

http://stanleymeyermedia.com/new/documentation/Patents/SMeyer-
WO9207861A1-International_Patent.pdf

for some reason my video how toos were removed, they had schematics and video of how it worked and what to do. i guess whoever removed them did not want the others to know how to do it. so i will not bother to put them back up.

lastly, i would like to say that no one here uses, there real names.
irondmax is my business name, i used to be an iron worker, by trade(high steel)
ray don is my forum name(none of you use your real name
and that ed guy you deleted his post, he loved you guys, and his last name was not mitchell. i bet he is heart broken. good job on kicking him where it hurts.

"children have much to learn, adults can admit, that they do as well"

I fixed the link to the patent PDF:  WO9207861A1


Nate

i read that, patent.

-5 gallons per hour= 3.785×5=18.925 liters per hour!!! about 3.02 liters per minute.

vic 1 unit make maximum output=3 liters per minute. meyer had 9 vic's units =27lpm!!!!

thanks
geenee

Quote from geenee on February 11th, 2013, 06:26 PM

i read that, patent.

-5 gallons per hour= 3.785×5=18.925 liters per hour!!! about 3.02 liters per minute.

vic 1 unit make maximum output=3 liters per minute. meyer had 9 vic's units =27lpm!!!!

thanks
geenee

Sorry, try again.  0.315 Liters per Minute.  Not enough to light my pipe.  hehe

Seems we had this discussion once before though.  I think he meant 5 gallons per hour of water, not gas.

Quote from Dog-One on February 11th, 2013, 06:31 PM

Quote from geenee on February 11th, 2013, 06:26 PM

i read that, patent.

-5 gallons per hour= 3.785×5=18.925 liters per hour!!! about 3.02 liters per minute.

vic 1 unit make maximum output=3 liters per minute. meyer had 9 vic's units =27lpm!!!!

thanks
geenee

Sorry, try again.  0.315 Liters per Minute.  Not enough to light my pipe.  hehe

Seems we had this discussion once before though.  I think he meant 5 gallons per hour of water, not gas.

my bad!!LOL

9 units can drain 2.7 liters(water,not gas) per minute. = 2.7*2689.7 LPM of hydrogen + 2.7*(2689.7/2) LPM of oxygen = 10,893.3 liters per minute of HHO gas!!!!!!
- from http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071101084216AAoMWaW

1 unit of VIC make gas = 1,210.4 liters per minute of HHO gas!!!! meaning a huge of pressure!!!

1600cc engine 4 stroke at 6000 rpm drain gas 4,800 LPM
-if use all of 9 VIC's units meaning not drain ambient air(9 units make 10,893LPM).

thanks,Dog-One.
geenee

PS.this patents(WO9207861A1) need to replicate first i think,vic step up 30:1 close loop,operation voltage about 360V.high speed diode.all of this we have.use distilled water or deionized water.lets it happen.

*1 VIC's unit spec
- 3 inches wfc ID=0.75" OD=0.5" capacitance = 837.43 pF
-c-core ferromagnetic pulsing core, 5 coils, 2 resonant charging chokes and secondary coil are same inductance,length,turn,gage(No.35) radio(30:1)to primary coil.operation voltage=360v.
-pulse and gate frequency generator
-fast switching diode NVR1550.

Quote from Ray Don on February 11th, 2013, 05:28 AM

Quote from Webmug on February 8th, 2013, 02:58 AM

Quote from hydrofuelincanada on February 6th, 2013, 07:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=003TrflPvqY&lc=3bPSBg8editGCSAWn45oJRGUPFSEeAz7lqppAeyIjKY

Check out this video by Max Miller

Awesome work on this project !

HHO IS REAL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpwDdzEkiZE
30V 300mA!!!!!!

/watch?v=hVn_TRH59lI
242V!!!!!!!!

Regards,
Webmug

well i have decided to show you exactly how to reproduce this wave form and give you the information on how to do it.
keep in mind this is a free meyer media link(open sourced)

http://stanleymeyermedia.com/new/documentation/Patents/SMeyer-
WO9207861A1-International_Patent.pdf

for some reason my video how toos were removed, they had schematics and video of how it worked and what to do. i guess whoever removed them did not want the others to know how to do it. so i will not bother to put them back up.

lastly, i would like to say that no one here uses, there real names.
irondmax is my business name, i used to be an iron worker, by trade(high steel)
ray don is my forum name(none of you use your real name
and that ed guy you deleted his post, he loved you guys, and his last name was not mitchell. i bet he is heart broken. good job on kicking him where it hurts.

"children have much to learn, adults can admit, that they do as well"

/watch?v=nPA0u5ZZSbw

Seems you have a Critically Damped Oscillator with the 5coiler!!!!
I had it also with a bifilar choke coil once before but I can't replicate this again.

Check out my link on this, the last scope shot I have one big Unipolar Pulse after resonant charging the choke. This occurred when I stopped charging the choke in the gate off pulse.

Quote from Webmug

Stanley Meyer: PATENT WO 92/07861 page 6

“In the invention, the water capacitor is subjected to a duty pulse which builds up in the resonant charging choke coil and then collapses. This occurrence permits a unipolar pulse to be applied to the fuel cell capacitor. When a resonant condition of the circuit is locked-in by the circuit, amp leakage is held to a minimum as the voltage which creates the dielectric field tends to infinity.

Turns are a design variable that controls the voltage of the unipolar pulses sent to the capacitor.

The pulse to the water capacitor is always unipolar.

The diode is an electronic switch that determines the generation and collapse of an electromagnetic field to permit the resonant charging choke(s) to double the applied frequency and also allows the pulse to be sent to the resonant cavity without discharging the ‘capacitor’ therein.”



Re-read above text again very carefully.

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=170&pid=3818#pid3818

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=646&pid=10211#pid10211



Regards,
Webmug

to Webmug.What's happen with the water fuel cell?bifilar coil??

thanks
geenee

Guys, I had an insight!
If we have a magnetic field whose lines cut perpendicular to the path of the ionic current gap in the cell (such as a magnetron), the current will not be the shortest path, an electrode to the other, by the imposition of the magnetic field.
In the magnetron electron does not go straight to the anode (although there KVS accelerating it), he will doing loops until it reaches the resonant cavities of the anode. I wonder if something similar happened in the cells (Meyer resonant cavity) because there is the possibility of electrons do not reach the plate, getting to circle the gap or even return to the cathode and be expelled again ... in fine it would keep A.T. and minimum current between cathode and anode ... the "resonance Meyer," so he hid the magnet which operated in the cell? or inducers would be mounted above and below the cavity, the trainers of the magnetic field in a very convenient? If I'm not mistaken, there is something in the processor or gas "Hydrogen gun"

The latest Injector coil bobbin design has been released:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=1019

They look very promising for standard single extruder RepRaps and Makerbot 3D printers.  

I won't be having much time to print a bunch of these for sale (if I do sell any) till mid summer.  I encourage everyone to get a 3D printer and distribute these to those who do not, or can not have a printer.:cool:

Nate

Quote from Webmug on February 13th, 2013, 02:34 AM

Quote from Ray Don on February 11th, 2013, 05:28 AM

Quote from Webmug on February 8th, 2013, 02:58 AM

Quote from hydrofuelincanada on February 6th, 2013, 07:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=003TrflPvqY&lc=3bPSBg8editGCSAWn45oJRGUPFSEeAz7lqppAeyIjKY

Check out this video by Max Miller

Awesome work on this project !

HHO IS REAL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpwDdzEkiZE
30V 300mA!!!!!!

/watch?v=hVn_TRH59lI
242V!!!!!!!!

Regards,
Webmug

well i have decided to show you exactly how to reproduce this wave form and give you the information on how to do it.
keep in mind this is a free meyer media link(open sourced)

http://stanleymeyermedia.com/new/documentation/Patents/SMeyer-
WO9207861A1-International_Patent.pdf

for some reason my video how toos were removed, they had schematics and video of how it worked and what to do. i guess whoever removed them did not want the others to know how to do it. so i will not bother to put them back up.

lastly, i would like to say that no one here uses, there real names.
irondmax is my business name, i used to be an iron worker, by trade(high steel)
ray don is my forum name(none of you use your real name
and that ed guy you deleted his post, he loved you guys, and his last name was not mitchell. i bet he is heart broken. good job on kicking him where it hurts.

"children have much to learn, adults can admit, that they do as well"

/watch?v=nPA0u5ZZSbw

Seems you have a Critically Damped Oscillator with the 5coiler!!!!
I had it also with a bifilar choke coil once before but I can't replicate this again.

Check out my link on this, the last scope shot I have one big Unipolar Pulse after resonant charging the choke. This occurred when I stopped charging the choke in the gate off pulse.

Quote from Webmug

Stanley Meyer: PATENT WO 92/07861 page 6

“In the invention, the water capacitor is subjected to a duty pulse which builds up in the resonant charging choke coil and then collapses. This occurrence permits a unipolar pulse to be applied to the fuel cell capacitor. When a resonant condition of the circuit is locked-in by the circuit, amp leakage is held to a minimum as the voltage which creates the dielectric field tends to infinity.

Turns are a design variable that controls the voltage of the unipolar pulses sent to the capacitor.

The pulse to the water capacitor is always unipolar.

The diode is an electronic switch that determines the generation and collapse of an electromagnetic field to permit the resonant charging choke(s) to double the applied frequency and also allows the pulse to be sent to the resonant cavity without discharging the ‘capacitor’ therein.”



Re-read above text again very carefully.

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=170&pid=3818#pid3818

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=646&pid=10211#pid10211



Regards,
Webmug

find your 0 referance ground, please

Quote from Ray Don on February 20th, 2013, 02:03 PM

find your 0 referance ground, please

Yes! I know what you mean. My signal is AC. And so my scope shot is not exactly the same but if you connect resistance in the from of a WFC the reference isolated ground is forming unipolar signal ,this is my opinion.
You can see the step-charging in the inductor with AC.
Don't know how the unipolar was formed (didn't see a connection diagram etc) used perm. core turns, but there where two 3 inch WFC connected in series.

Regards,
Webmug

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:32 AM

Quote from Ray Don on February 20th, 2013, 02:03 PM

find your 0 referance ground, please

Yes! I know what you mean. My signal is AC. And so my scope shot is not exactly the same but if you connect resistance in the from of a WFC the reference isolated ground is forming unipolar signal ,this is my opinion.
You can see the step-charging in the inductor with AC.
Don't know how the unipolar was formed (didn't see a connection diagram etc) used perm. core turns, but there where two 3 inch WFC connected in series.

Regards,
Webmug

Ray don, where is your 0 refrence ground in your test? I don't rember if you stated it in your video. This would help.

Thanks ~Russ

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 21st, 2013, 09:35 AM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:32 AM

Quote from Ray Don on February 20th, 2013, 02:03 PM

find your 0 referance ground, please

Yes! I know what you mean. My signal is AC. And so my scope shot is not exactly the same but if you connect resistance in the from of a WFC the reference isolated ground is forming unipolar signal ,this is my opinion.
You can see the step-charging in the inductor with AC.
Don't know how the unipolar was formed (didn't see a connection diagram etc) used perm. core turns, but there where two 3 inch WFC connected in series.

Regards,
Webmug

Ray don, where is your 0 refrence ground in your test? I don't rember if you stated it in your video. This would help.

Thanks ~Russ

To make it clear... "isolated ground" is not a physical connection to anywhere with a wire.

Regards,
Webmug

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:42 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 21st, 2013, 09:35 AM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:32 AM

Quote from Ray Don on February 20th, 2013, 02:03 PM

find your 0 referance ground, please

Yes! I know what you mean. My signal is AC. And so my scope shot is not exactly the same but if you connect resistance in the from of a WFC the reference isolated ground is forming unipolar signal ,this is my opinion.
You can see the step-charging in the inductor with AC.
Don't know how the unipolar was formed (didn't see a connection diagram etc) used perm. core turns, but there where two 3 inch WFC connected in series.

Regards,
Webmug

Ray don, where is your 0 refrence ground in your test? I don't rember if you stated it in your video. This would help.

Thanks ~Russ

To make it clear... "isolated ground" is not a physical connection to anywhere with a wire.

Regards,
Webmug

If you are an ordinary oscilloscope, already grounded via outlet in the land of installation

Quote from Faisca on February 21st, 2013, 01:45 PM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:42 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 21st, 2013, 09:35 AM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:32 AM

Quote from Ray Don on February 20th, 2013, 02:03 PM

find your 0 referance ground, please

Yes! I know what you mean. My signal is AC. And so my scope shot is not exactly the same but if you connect resistance in the from of a WFC the reference isolated ground is forming unipolar signal ,this is my opinion.
You can see the step-charging in the inductor with AC.
Don't know how the unipolar was formed (didn't see a connection diagram etc) used perm. core turns, but there where two 3 inch WFC connected in series.

Regards,
Webmug

Ray don, where is your 0 refrence ground in your test? I don't rember if you stated it in your video. This would help.

Thanks ~Russ

To make it clear... "isolated ground" is not a physical connection to anywhere with a wire.

Regards,
Webmug

If you are an ordinary oscilloscope, already grounded via outlet in the land of installation

you guys need to come down from la la land
http://www2.tek.com/cmswpt/psdetails.lotr?ct=ps&cs=psu&ci=13304&lc=PT-BR

you need to use a scope with an isolated probe, you can also (buy isolated probes).  you can not measure voltage of this sort without touching it. you think your measuring mains humm or something?
you have to measure from the cell connections, if you want a measurement that you can use. probes in the air? maybe you are reading your mains, humm, and think you just found scaler waves.

the measurement here is correct and making bubbles. i had thought to give you something to look forward too. but i guess i was wrong. stan told the truth, and i am doing it. many of you say i am not open source, and i dont give the circuit layouts. the fact is, russ has already given all that away to everyone. even his rustastic freq gen is based on meyers circuit. russ has posted the meyer schematics, all you have to do is put them in a gerbor file. my circuits are nothing new, they are exact reproductions of meyers work. and cheap too.

i post video after video, on youtube, explaining this and that. some of you copy the vids or pics from the vids. i put them there so you can do that. i even pop in here once in a while.....edge you forward if i can. but still i am not open source, am this or that. ........

well, i am doing it, and you can watch it or not.

probes are connected at the cell connections, they are 4 channels isolated probes and grounds. the vid is meyer step charge, and it is real. making bubbles
higher voltages coming soon

maybe i will see ya around, i hate forums

Quote from Faisca on February 21st, 2013, 01:45 PM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:42 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 21st, 2013, 09:35 AM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:32 AM

Quote from Ray Don on February 20th, 2013, 02:03 PM

find your 0 referance ground, please

Yes! I know what you mean. My signal is AC. And so my scope shot is not exactly the same but if you connect resistance in the from of a WFC the reference isolated ground is forming unipolar signal ,this is my opinion.
You can see the step-charging in the inductor with AC.
Don't know how the unipolar was formed (didn't see a connection diagram etc) used perm. core turns, but there where two 3 inch WFC connected in series.

Regards,
Webmug

Ray don, where is your 0 refrence ground in your test? I don't rember if you stated it in your video. This would help.

Thanks ~Russ

To make it clear... "isolated ground" is not a physical connection to anywhere with a wire.

Regards,
Webmug

If you are an ordinary oscilloscope, already grounded via outlet in the land of installation

I think what the real question is ... Where was the negative lead of the oscilloscope probe attached?

Quote from DanB on February 21st, 2013, 02:31 PM

Quote from Faisca on February 21st, 2013, 01:45 PM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:42 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 21st, 2013, 09:35 AM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:32 AM

Yes! I know what you mean. My signal is AC. And so my scope shot is not exactly the same but if you connect resistance in the from of a WFC the reference isolated ground is forming unipolar signal ,this is my opinion.
You can see the step-charging in the inductor with AC.
Don't know how the unipolar was formed (didn't see a connection diagram etc) used perm. core turns, but there where two 3 inch WFC connected in series.

Regards,
Webmug

Ray don, where is your 0 refrence ground in your test? I don't rember if you stated it in your video. This would help.

Thanks ~Russ

To make it clear... "isolated ground" is not a physical connection to anywhere with a wire.

Regards,
Webmug

If you are an ordinary oscilloscope, already grounded via outlet in the land of installation

I think what the real question is ... Where was the negative lead of the oscilloscope probe attached?

Dan, you must have mised the last post,

You were posting while max was. ( it happens to me all the time)

He stated:

Quote

probes are connected at the cell connections, they are 4 channels isolated probes and grounds.

~Russ

Quote from DanB on February 21st, 2013, 02:31 PM

Quote from Faisca on February 21st, 2013, 01:45 PM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:42 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 21st, 2013, 09:35 AM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:32 AM

Yes! I know what you mean. My signal is AC. And so my scope shot is not exactly the same but if you connect resistance in the from of a WFC the reference isolated ground is forming unipolar signal ,this is my opinion.
You can see the step-charging in the inductor with AC.
Don't know how the unipolar was formed (didn't see a connection diagram etc) used perm. core turns, but there where two 3 inch WFC connected in series.

Regards,
Webmug

Ray don, where is your 0 refrence ground in your test? I don't rember if you stated it in your video. This would help.

Thanks ~Russ

To make it clear... "isolated ground" is not a physical connection to anywhere with a wire.

Regards,
Webmug

If you are an ordinary oscilloscope, already grounded via outlet in the land of installation

I think what the real question is ... Where was the negative lead of the oscilloscope probe attached?

Dan, you must have mised the last post,

You were posting while max was. ( it happens to me all the time)

He stated:

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probes are connected at the cell connections, they are 4 channels isolated probes and grounds.

And yes, as we all know the russtic is based on Stan's circuit with some modifications that I thought was needed. Currently, I believe I over looked the duty adjustment and currently making an add on to fix this. 50% duty cycle was what i thought it needed to be... I was looking at the 8XA which dose not carry this function, but the VIC Card Dose...  If I'm wrong ill let you know, I'm not scared to tell anyone if I may had made a mistake!    ;)  never stated I knew it all... ;)

Ill Let you guys know when I get it done so those who have a built a russtic can add duty adjustment to it. Currently looking like one extra IC and some components. Always learning....

~Russ

Quote from Faisca on February 21st, 2013, 01:45 PM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:42 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 21st, 2013, 09:35 AM

Quote from Webmug on February 21st, 2013, 09:32 AM

Quote from Ray Don on February 20th, 2013, 02:03 PM

find your 0 referance ground, please

Yes! I know what you mean. My signal is AC. And so my scope shot is not exactly the same but if you connect resistance in the from of a WFC the reference isolated ground is forming unipolar signal ,this is my opinion.
You can see the step-charging in the inductor with AC.
Don't know how the unipolar was formed (didn't see a connection diagram etc) used perm. core turns, but there where two 3 inch WFC connected in series.

Regards,
Webmug

Ray don, where is your 0 refrence ground in your test? I don't rember if you stated it in your video. This would help.

Thanks ~Russ

To make it clear... "isolated ground" is not a physical connection to anywhere with a wire.

Regards,
Webmug

If you are an ordinary oscilloscope, already grounded via outlet in the land of installation

I think the questions should be ... Where did you place the negative oscilloscope probe leads and is your oscilloscope inputs isolated from each other?
     Stan never said where he referenced his signals, I suspect it was the low side of the secondary winding. This, for the 5 coil VIC was actually a center tap when you look at the whole VIC. When the reference is between the "secondary and the negative resonant choke" (center tap), the waveforms are hard to interpret.