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Quote from freethisone on May 19th, 2011, 01:29 PM

Quote from Rwg42985 on May 18th, 2011, 07:09 PM

Guys, the tall EPG was for 3 phase type out put...

I like the thought on wall thickness!!! Nice thought!


I think that the lenear motor is out of the qustion! The wattage is to
Much!!! That's my thought anyway.

We can pulse mutli coils in the same manner to make a non moving leaner pump that will work if we have a polarized gas... Note I did not say magnetized... But

Good thoughts fellas! We will get some good results!!! My testing is getting close!

Yeah!!!

~Russ

heheh yea polarized. the idea here as explained by Tesla is the gas becomes a single conductor. in the book , experiments with alt currents, and high frequency.
page 74 is related to vacuum bulbs. he explained. now he describes the difference between  steady low frequency and high frequency currents. he talks about the carbon button inside the glass, and the break down of the dielectric. as the case for the YouTube movie inventor died suddenly. he polarized the gas, and altogether became a single conductor.
also why the condencer blew up is covered here..

inventor died

hummmm, intresting video Clip! Thanks! ~Russ

Quote from Rwg42985 on May 19th, 2011, 01:57 PM

Quote from freethisone on May 19th, 2011, 01:29 PM

Quote from Rwg42985 on May 18th, 2011, 07:09 PM

Guys, the tall EPG was for 3 phase type out put...

I like the thought on wall thickness!!! Nice thought!


I think that the lenear motor is out of the qustion! The wattage is to
Much!!! That's my thought anyway.

We can pulse mutli coils in the same manner to make a non moving leaner pump that will work if we have a polarized gas... Note I did not say magnetized... But

Good thoughts fellas! We will get some good results!!! My testing is getting close!

Yeah!!!

~Russ

heheh yea polarized. the idea here as explained by Tesla is the gas becomes a single conductor. in the book , experiments with alt currents, and high frequency.
page 74 is related to vacuum bulbs. he explained. now he describes the difference between  steady low frequency and high frequency currents. he talks about the carbon button inside the glass, and the break down of the dielectric. as the case for the YouTube movie inventor died suddenly. he polarized the gas, and altogether became a single conductor.
also why the condencer blew up is covered here..

inventor died

hummmm, intresting video Clip! Thanks! ~Russ

heheh yea polarized. the idea here as explained by Tesla is the gas becomes a single conductor. in the book , experiments with alt currents, and high frequency.
page 74 is related to vacuum bulbs. he explained. now he describes the difference between  steady low frequency and high frequency currents. he talks about the carbon button inside the glass, and the break down of the dielectric. as the case for the YouTube movie inventor died suddenly. he polarized the gas, and altogether became a single conductor.
also why the condenser blew up is covered here..

Tesla quote as long as the frequencies are low, the conductor gets the most, and the condenser is perfectly safe. the role of the conductor may become insignificant. in the latter case the difference of potential at the terminals of the condenser may become so great as to rupture. end quote.

so in the case of your spark gap were the condenser blew Russ. the conducting carbon would have been more stable, as to get the energy to the gap, and keep it there. there was most likely a allot of return energy of excessive frequency feed back.

Ok, so i got two 2ftx2ft sheets of 12mm chipboard and cut an 18 inch hole in one of them.
Then took the off-cut from the centre and made it 80mm smaller in diameter.
Next I screwed the two sheets together to make a jig, and fixed the centre piece with a 3mm drill bit thru the centre hole right thru both the boards.
Notched out where i wanted to put my 90 degree bends.
Then worked out out much pipe i needed by pushing it down in the recess, cut of a bit extra just for good measure.
Then just kept working it by hand and wedges until its all the winds were touching. This is some sore thumb business!!
Then took 2 steps back and soldered the 90 degree bends on, re-weged in place.
Warmed up the pipe with a blow torch just to try and relive some of the stress coz this coil wants to ping out. Left it overnight to settle.





Next day I cleaned the copper down all the groves with steel wool and a brush down with some acetone. Just to get all the grease off coz this has got to be stuck together. I used a bead of gripfill all round, left a bit of a gap by the ends coz theres more soldering to be done. Got to try and flip it over and get the other side done.
In hindsight id of make the whole jig circular and have a bottom and a lid with the centre cutout section so i could work on either side without taking the copper out of the jig.
Gonna be a few days waiting for the gripfill to dry before i can carry on plumbing.

Ok, so i got two 2ftx2ft sheets of 12mm chipboard and cut an 18 inch hole in one of them.
Then took the off-cut from the centre and made it 80mm smaller in diameter.
Next I screwed the two sheets together to make a jig, and fixed the centre piece with a 3mm drill bit thru the centre hole right thru both the boards.
Notched out where i wanted to put my 90 degree bends.
Then worked out out much pipe i needed by pushing it down in the recess, cut of a bit extra just for good measure.
Then just kept working it by hand and wedges until its all the winds were touching. This is some sore thumb business!!
Then took 2 steps back and soldered the 90 degree bends on, re-weged in place.
Warmed up the pipe with a blow torch just to try and relive some of the stress coz this coil wants to ping out. Left it overnight to settle.





Next day I cleaned the copper down all the groves with steel wool and a brush down with some acetone. Just to get all the grease off coz this has got to be stuck together. I used a bead of gripfill all round, left a bit of a gap by the ends coz theres more soldering to be done. Got to try and flip it over and get the other side done.
In hindsight id of make the whole jig circular and have a bottom and a lid with the centre cutout section so i could work on either side without taking the copper out of the jig.
Gonna be a few days waiting for the gripfill to dry before i can carry on plumbing.

That's 10mm od. 0.7 mm wall. Its soppsed to be soft copper, my fingertips say otherwise. Its the stuff that comes on a roll. A 10m roll would do for 2 18inch mpgs You,d never do it straight. I've only ever seen this 10mm tube on rolls. If I could change one thing that would of saved me hours ., it would be to have cut that jig exactly to the size I wanted so every edge was tight. I'd planned to but was rushing with the jigsaw. My fault.

newbie comments here.  You guys are making me wonder why the pumps are located where they are to begin with?  If the fluid flows through them, they could just be inline in a less resistive configuration (like a Leeskalnin motion holder but with fluid) oval or round?  Is it just a compact configuration angle, or do the angles matter?

Quote from bsibille on May 20th, 2011, 07:38 PM

newbie comments here.  You guys are making me wonder why the pumps are located where they are to begin with?  If the fluid flows through them, they could just be inline in a less resistive configuration (like a Leeskalnin motion holder but with fluid) oval or round?  Is it just a compact configuration angle, or do the angles matter?

Blane, depending on what you plan on doing the style maters... I plan on moving some gas at a high rate of speed. So you can see how I layed out my EPG, it's 3 loops, one of witch is oblong... And sticks out the side... I see this making the fluid/gas media not biting any friction points... Like 90's

But there is a transformer caled the bi-toroid transformer.  

See here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7833.0;attach=44709;image

You put the primary in the inner
Loop so there is not BEMF going in to the primary... Look at it and see how it works... You will understand what i mean...

     I'm not saying that the EPG will work the same... Bit it's a good thought to point out...

~Russ

Quote from Rwg42985 on May 20th, 2011, 09:20 PM

Quote from bsibille on May 20th, 2011, 07:38 PM

newbie comments here.  You guys are making me wonder why the pumps are located where they are to begin with?  If the fluid flows through them, they could just be inline in a less resistive configuration (like a Leeskalnin motion holder but with fluid) oval or round?  Is it just a compact configuration angle, or do the angles matter?

Blane, depending on what you plan on doing the style maters... I plan on moving some gas at a high rate of speed. So you can see how I layed out my EPG, it's 3 loops, one of witch is oblong... And sticks out the side... I see this making the fluid/gas media not biting any friction points... Like 90's

But there is a transformer caled the bi-toroid transformer.  

See here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7833.0;attach=44709;image

You put the primary in the inner
Loop so there is not BEMF going in to the primary... Look at it and see how it works... You will understand what i mean...

     I'm not saying that the EPG will work the same... Bit it's a good thought to point out...

~Russ

Does that come out of a pole transformer?
Thx!

Made a video of my EPG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbL1ervP00M

Any clue if 14 AWG wire is too much for pick up or pulse coils?

Nate

Quote from firepinto on May 21st, 2011, 08:52 PM

Made a video of my EPG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbL1ervP00M

Any clue if 14 AWG wire is too much for pick up or pulse coils?

Nate

Yes! The "laser" is a sweet idea using pex as a'n input and sticking anything in there to switch it out! I love when people work on things together but in there own way!!! I love it!  Looks good!

Pickup, may be ok for 14awg but pulsing will pull alot of amps... But it will work...

I think 20-22awg for pickup is what stan was using...

~Russ

Im thinking what to do with my primarys, ie wire size number of turns, iron core or wind straight on the copper? I found this:

"There is a way to build very powerful electromagnets without using large amounts of power, without cooling problems. You wrap a soft iron core with hundreds of 20 inch strips of 33 gauge magnet wire. clean the insulation off the ends of all the wires and solder all the ends together so you end up with somthing that looks like a braided cable. this cable will have a very low resistance. You wrap the cable around your soft iron core. so you basicaly have a soft iron core with many turns of this fine wire that are combined into a cable. This electro magnet has very low resistance and a large amount of ampere turns. requires a low amperage. A word of caution this makes a very powerful magnet, so be very careful."

Never come across this before, but sounds plausible i think.

I hadn't really considered liquid o2, I take it you mean liquid oxygen. I was alaways under the Impression that stuff was minus hundreds of degrees, had to be kept liquid under high pressure in stainless steel pipes and containers . If its that cold id be worried my epg would go brittle and crack. But do t know. With regards to the pump, because its a closed  loop the impeller will be fed with the recirculating fluid, i think that's what Stan meant when he says the pump needs a speed control to stop the pump over revving. My dads a chemist, I'll see if i can persuade him to sit thru Stan in newzealand parts 8,9,10... And see what his take is on magnetic or polarized gases. maybe the copper tube has a high voltage charge on it to keep the gas in the right state, don't know just guessing now.

Dads not really a beliver in free energy i dont think. Ive got to convince a skeptic to think outside the box. I've given him a couple of my tesla books to read. At least to get him  on the right track.

Wasn't it tesla that used high voltage to join nitrogen(inert like argon) with other elements to make nitrogen based fertilizers?

I seem to remember that the hydrogen with the magnetic field is monatomic hydrogen and that resonance drive type cells make more of this than brute force. If you can convert your H from your split cell in to monatomic H then I think you may get a result.