Just a note on the Russ's schematic.  Standard practice is to put two resistors (one across each cap or set of caps) across any electrolytic caps that are stacked in series.  This is to provide a voltage divider that swamps out leakage current in the caps and keeps the voltage balanced across them.  Since this is a cap bank the resistor current should be greater than the leakage for each set (upper or lower).  If each cap was rated for 100 uA max leakage and there are five + five in series at 175VDC across each half then 175V/500uA = 350K,  1/4W but don't use one 1/4W resistor.  To keep a good voltage rating, split the value into 2 or 3 resistors.  So 3 x 100K (1/4w)  or 2 x 150K (1/4w) across each half of the bank would be good.  

Hi Russ and everyone else.
Hope all is well.
Im trying to find the time to work on my NGE replication but somehow is so hard to find between time with the familly and work.
I am going to use a Ducati crank and double rods (Ducati has many models that has cranks with 2 rods on the same bearing, just like the one that John Rohner is using)
Gathering parts here and i am currently working on timing Electronics, an ignition with manual advance just for simple testing.

Waiting impatiently for your next update, number 19 if im not mistaken.
Very impressed with your progress and your videos.
But the greatest acomplishment youve made so far is managing to put all that time in your Projects and stil manage to stay married :)
best regards to you and your familly Russ
/Janne Ström, Sweden

Quote from woody0068 on December 2nd, 2012, 12:03 PM

Hi Russ and everyone else.
Hope all is well.
Im trying to find the time to work on my NGE replication but somehow is so hard to find between time with the familly and work.
I am going to use a Ducati crank and double rods (Ducati has many models that has cranks with 2 rods on the same bearing, just like the one that John Rohner is using)
Gathering parts here and i am currently working on timing Electronics, an ignition with manual advance just for simple testing.

Waiting impatiently for your next update, number 19 if im not mistaken.
Very impressed with your progress and your videos.
But the greatest acomplishment youve made so far is managing to put all that time in your Projects and stil manage to stay married :)
best regards to you and your familly Russ
/Janne Ström, Sweden

KCD made a nice ignition timing system for the popper...

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=822

Quote from FaradayEZ on December 2nd, 2012, 01:51 PM

Quote from woody0068 on December 2nd, 2012, 12:03 PM

Hi Russ and everyone else.
Hope all is well.
Im trying to find the time to work on my NGE replication but somehow is so hard to find between time with the familly and work.
I am going to use a Ducati crank and double rods (Ducati has many models that has cranks with 2 rods on the same bearing, just like the one that John Rohner is using)
Gathering parts here and i am currently working on timing Electronics, an ignition with manual advance just for simple testing.

Waiting impatiently for your next update, number 19 if im not mistaken.
Very impressed with your progress and your videos.
But the greatest acomplishment youve made so far is managing to put all that time in your Projects and stil manage to stay married :)
best regards to you and your familly Russ
/Janne Ström, Sweden

KCD made a nice ignition timing system for the popper...

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=822

Yeah i saw that Circuit, very nice, will be using it if and when i get results on my testing with my NGE.
Thanks

Quote from Babble on November 29th, 2012, 03:24 PM

Just a note on the Russ's schematic.  Standard practice is to put two resistors (one across each cap or set of caps) across any electrolytic caps that are stacked in series.  This is to provide a voltage divider that swamps out leakage current in the caps and keeps the voltage balanced across them.  Since this is a cap bank the resistor current should be greater than the leakage for each set (upper or lower).  If each cap was rated for 100 uA max leakage and there are five + five in series at 175VDC across each half then 175V/500uA = 350K,  1/4W but don't use one 1/4W resistor.  To keep a good voltage rating, split the value into 2 or 3 resistors.  So 3 x 100K (1/4w)  or 2 x 150K (1/4w) across each half of the bank would be good.

indeed a good idea! tanks!! ~Russ ( seen you posted this before too)

Quote from woody0068 on December 2nd, 2012, 12:03 PM

Hi Russ and everyone else.
Hope all is well.
Im trying to find the time to work on my NGE replication but somehow is so hard to find between time with the familly and work.
I am going to use a Ducati crank and double rods (Ducati has many models that has cranks with 2 rods on the same bearing, just like the one that John Rohner is using)
Gathering parts here and i am currently working on timing Electronics, an ignition with manual advance just for simple testing.

Waiting impatiently for your next update, number 19 if im not mistaken.
Very impressed with your progress and your videos.
But the greatest acomplishment youve made so far is managing to put all that time in your Projects and stil manage to stay married :)
best regards to you and your familly Russ
/Janne Ström, Sweden

Thanks Janne, yeah lately family and other has been more important. but don't worry. still doing my best i just haven't had time to make videos!

cap bank is almost done and the 555 timer circuit is done but i think i have a bad Driver IC. so been waiting on parts... hurry up and wait...

any how. hope to make some progress this week and also there will be a smart scarecrow show for the pulse motor build off Thursday! :) OK well I'm off hope to make a videos when the parts come in...

~Russ

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there is defiantly a "residue" of some type of "vapor" in the chamber...

~Russ

Russ,

Is the dust magnetic?  I suspect it is simply an Ferrous oxide Fe(2+)O(2-) deposition.  Hydrogen gets ionized to H+ in the chamber and strips electrons from the Fe surface, which goes on to react with residual O2 (from insufficient vacuum).  Oxidation of the dust to rust (Fe2O3) should occur spontaneously in some water with vinegar or salt, to give a reddish precipitate instead of black.

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I still believe that some small amount of residual air is in the cylinder at very low pressure. The vacuum pump must not be clearing out all the air. Some small amount of air is in the tube to cause the green glow.

To test this idea, run a test with a vacuum only spark discharge.

Flush and evacuate the chamber 3 or 4 times to eliminate the residual O2.  You can set up a hose to charge the chamber, instead of using the syringe.

1 week to go (Dec. 11) for the supposed big unveiling of Inteligentry NGE motors at the Power-Gen show.

Sterling said he is not going, so I’m wondering if anyone in here is planning on going?

Some doubt has been raised that any working motors will be at the show!

element 119

Quote from element 119 on December 4th, 2012, 02:23 AM

1 week to go (Dec. 11) for the supposed big unveiling of Inteligentry NGE motors at the Power-Gen show.

Sterling said he is not going, so I’m wondering if anyone in here is planning on going?

Some doubt has been raised that any working motors will be at the show!

element 119

I'll be keeping an eye on it but it's seriously a wait and see.

Quote from element 119 on December 4th, 2012, 02:23 AM

1 week to go (Dec. 11) for the supposed big unveiling of Inteligentry NGE motors at the Power-Gen show.

Sterling said he is not going, so I’m wondering if anyone in here is planning on going?

Some doubt has been raised that any working motors will be at the show!

element 119

I was considering going on my own dime just to see their booth, I'm hoping someone here can go and give some good feedback and maybe video.  

I have my doubts too... I mean, there's a million excuses like "the venue wouldn't allow it for safety reasons" or whatever.  I really hope they break through to mainstream, not for their benefit, but everyone else.  What's the best outcome of this show though?  Making national nightly news?

Quote from Badger on December 4th, 2012, 06:11 AM

Quote from element 119 on December 4th, 2012, 02:23 AM

1 week to go (Dec. 11) for the supposed big unveiling of Inteligentry NGE motors at the Power-Gen show.

Sterling said he is not going, so I’m wondering if anyone in here is planning on going?

Some doubt has been raised that any working motors will be at the show!

element 119

I was considering going on my own dime just to see their booth, I'm hoping someone here can go and give some good feedback and maybe video.  

I have my doubts too... I mean, there's a million excuses like "the venue wouldn't allow it for safety reasons" or whatever.  I really hope they break through to mainstream, not for their benefit, but everyone else.  What's the best outcome of this show though?  Making national nightly news?

i will not be there.

i wish them the best of luck but i got to look at it from an honest standpoint and i feel its not looking good... it would be grate if they came through.

any how best of luck to them.

on another note... SEE next post of mine :)

~Russ

alright guys...

sorry this took me so long... but here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQuwMKSrZAk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

here is all the files you need in one ZIP folder...

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now look it over it and read it thoroughly... then ask questions...

you will need this program to read the schematic files...

http://www.expresspcb.com/expresspcbhtm/Download.htm

the Bitmap photos are hard to read...

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:) good stuff!

~Russ

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 4th, 2012, 09:52 AM

alright guys...

sorry this took me so long... but here it is:


Video uploading...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQuwMKSrZAk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

here is all the files you need in one ZIP folder...



now look it over it and read it thoroughly... then ask questions...

you will need this program to read the schematic files...

http://www.expresspcb.com/expresspcbhtm/Download.htm

the Bitmap photos are hard to read...





:) good stuff!

~Russ

Very cool Russ, can't wait to watch the video , for it is uploading as I am typing this.:huh::cool::D:P

Quote from Jeff Nading on December 4th, 2012, 10:09 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 4th, 2012, 09:52 AM

alright guys...

sorry this took me so long... but here it is:


Video uploading...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQuwMKSrZAk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

here is all the files you need in one ZIP folder...



now look it over it and read it thoroughly... then ask questions...

you will need this program to read the schematic files...

http://www.expresspcb.com/expresspcbhtm/Download.htm

the Bitmap photos are hard to read...





:) good stuff!

~Russ

Very cool Russ, can't wait to watch the video , for it is uploading as I am typing this.:huh::cool::D:P

Awesomness, thanks for sharing :D

Quote from Jeff Nading on December 4th, 2012, 10:09 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 4th, 2012, 09:52 AM

alright guys...

sorry this took me so long... but here it is:


Video uploading...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQuwMKSrZAk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

here is all the files you need in one ZIP folder...



Exellent Russ, my evening is saved, will make a cup of coffee and watch your new update when the kids are tucked in.  Great job on the Circuit.


now look it over it and read it thoroughly... then ask questions...

you will need this program to read the schematic files...

http://www.expresspcb.com/expresspcbhtm/Download.htm

the Bitmap photos are hard to read...





:) good stuff!

~Russ

Very cool Russ, can't wait to watch the video , for it is uploading as I am typing this.:huh::cool::D:P

Exellent Russ, my evening is saved.
Will make a cup of coffee and watch your update as soon as the kids are tucked in.
Nice work on the Circuit.

Quote from woody0068 on December 4th, 2012, 11:23 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on December 4th, 2012, 10:09 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 4th, 2012, 09:52 AM

alright guys...

sorry this took me so long... but here it is:


Video uploading...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQuwMKSrZAk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

here is all the files you need in one ZIP folder...



Exellent Russ, my evening is saved, will make a cup of coffee and watch your new update when the kids are tucked in.  Great job on the Circuit.


now look it over it and read it thoroughly... then ask questions...

you will need this program to read the schematic files...

http://www.expresspcb.com/expresspcbhtm/Download.htm

the Bitmap photos are hard to read...





:) good stuff!

~Russ

Very cool Russ, can't wait to watch the video , for it is uploading as I am typing this.:huh::cool::D:P

Exellent Russ, my evening is saved.
Will make a cup of coffee and watch your update as soon as the kids are tucked in.
Nice work on the Circuit.

Thanks guys. also. looks like about 340min as of now... lol that's what i get for uploading a 1080PHD video that's 25+ min long... lol

~Russ

Quote from Badger on December 4th, 2012, 06:11 AM

Quote from element 119 on December 4th, 2012, 02:23 AM

1 week to go (Dec. 11) for the supposed big unveiling of Inteligentry NGE motors at the Power-Gen show.

Sterling said he is not going, so I’m wondering if anyone in here is planning on going?

Some doubt has been raised that any working motors will be at the show!

element 119

I was considering going on my own dime just to see their booth, I'm hoping someone here can go and give some good feedback and maybe video.  

I have my doubts too... I mean, there's a million excuses like "the venue wouldn't allow it for safety reasons" or whatever.  I really hope they break through to mainstream, not for their benefit, but everyone else.  What's the best outcome of this show though?  Making national nightly news?

Yeah, someone should go there and check it out, see if there is Any proof of a running Engine at all.
Ive noticed that the websites, plasmerg.com and intelligentry.com have removed all downloadable files and photos!
Whats up with that?
/ Janne Ström

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Yeah, someone should go there and check it out, see if there is Any proof of a running Engine at all.
Ive noticed that the websites, plasmerg.com and intelligentry.com have removed all downloadable files and photos!
Whats up with that?
/ Janne Ström

Intelligentry should have posted a video of a popper in action that shows the operability of their new technology before they put their two spark plug version of the popper on the market.

The popper has nothing to do with the purported rights of engine manufacturers because it is not an engine. The popper is simply a technology demonstrator that shows the Papp reaction in action.

Intelligentry has greatly modified the basic Papp reaction to the point where their new technology stands on its own.

Just because the old Papp reaction has been demonstrated back in the 60’s  successfully, does not mean the newly reworked Intelligentry technology will also work.  

Quote from Axil on December 4th, 2012, 04:26 PM

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Yeah, someone should go there and check it out, see if there is Any proof of a running Engine at all.
Ive noticed that the websites, plasmerg.com and intelligentry.com have removed all downloadable files and photos!
Whats up with that?
/ Janne Ström

Intelligentry should have posted a video of a popper in action that shows the operability of their new technology before they put their two spark plug version of the popper on the market.

The popper has nothing to do with the purported rights of engine manufacturers because it is not an engine. The popper is simply a technology demonstrator that shows the Papp reaction in action.

Intelligentry has greatly modified the basic Papp reaction to the point where their new technology stands on its own.

Just because the old Papp reaction has been demonstrated back in the 60’s  successfully, does not mean the newly reworked Intelligentry technology will also work.

agreed...

PS. Video is uploaded... the number 19 posted above. thanks! ~Russ

The bubble dosimeter is a good tool to use. The detection of neutrons by the bubble dosimeter will tell the tale. If the Papp reaction gets it energy from fusion we will see neutrons, else the power comes from zero point energy.

Russ - thanks for the update, and that capacitor bank is seriously amazing.

On the schematic page 1, you're using a 220nF cap in the edge trigger circuit. This is much larger than I would use - normally somewhere around 1nF-10nF should be enough. With the LM555C you're using, to trigger reliably only needs a voltage of around 0.2Vcc (so 2.4V here) for around a microsecond. When the input to the trigger goes high, the output will rise above the power-supply by the same amount for the same time. This pulse will be absorbed in the internal protection diodes of the LM555. It's better to add a diode to Vcc across the output of the edge-trigger to save the 555 from getting overstressed. Using the 220nF cap and no diode has a reduced reliability, so the 555 may die when you're not expecting it.

Quote from simonderricutt on December 5th, 2012, 07:14 AM

Russ - thanks for the update, and that capacitor bank is seriously amazing.

On the schematic page 1, you're using a 220nF cap in the edge trigger circuit. This is much larger than I would use - normally somewhere around 1nF-10nF should be enough. With the LM555C you're using, to trigger reliably only needs a voltage of around 0.2Vcc (so 2.4V here) for around a microsecond. When the input to the trigger goes high, the output will rise above the power-supply by the same amount for the same time. This pulse will be absorbed in the internal protection diodes of the LM555. It's better to add a diode to Vcc across the output of the edge-trigger to save the 555 from getting overstressed. Using the 220nF cap and no diode has a reduced reliability, so the 555 may die when you're not expecting it.

thanks for the tip!

the cap depends on the frequency. i had a 1nf then went bigger and bigger till i found that the 220nf worked the best.

the reason is that it seemed to not trigger at the slow pace I'm firing it at. especially when manually triggering.  

from here: http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/capacit.htm#coupling

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Output when RC >> T
When the time constant is much larger than the time period of the input signal the capacitor does not have sufficient time to significantly charge or discharge, so the signal passes through with negligible distortion.

Output when RC = T
When the time constant is equal to the time period you can see that the capacitor has time to partly charge and discharge before the signal changes. As a result there is significant distortion of the signal as it passes through the CR-coupling. Notice how the sudden changes of the input signal pass straight through the capacitor to the output.

Output when RC << T
When the time constant is much smaller than the time period the capacitor has time to fully charge or discharge after each sudden change in the input signal. Effectively only the sudden changes pass through to the output and they appear as 'spikes', alternately positive and negative. This can be useful in a system which must detect when a signal changes suddenly, but must ignore slow changes.

i found that i could even go much bigger..

any how. this is what i have found works for slow switching. not in my pulse motor build i found that this cap maid a HUGE difference as i was using it to trigger a pulse from a hall sensor and it would cut off at high frequency.

it seemed that with a lower value it would not trigger the 555 timer correctly. at leas not while i was testing... this could have been something else that i was not aware of.

and what diode are you referring to?

THANKS!! ~Russ

Quote from Axil on December 4th, 2012, 11:40 PM

The bubble dosimeter is a good tool to use. The detection of neutrons by the bubble dosimeter will tell the tale. If the Papp reaction gets it energy from fusion we will see neutrons, else the power comes from zero point energy.

yes yes! the story will unfold! :)

~Russ

Cant wait to start building your "papp pulse tester" but i might have to wait til the roads are open again.
there is massive amounts of snow coming down now and we cant really go anywhere.
posting a pic of my windturbine.
"just when you need it the most"!!!! :@