Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system

Robert Twiss

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #301, on May 21st, 2012, 12:50 PM »
Are you aware of this?

Electromagnetic effects on water
Thus, it appears that electric and magnetic fields have opposite effects on water clustering.. Unstructured water with fewer hydrogen bonds is a more reactive environment [286], as exemplified by the enhanced reactivity of supercritical water.b An open, more hydrogen-bonded network structure slows reactions due to its increased viscosity, reduced diffusivities and the less active participation of water molecules. Any factors that reduce hydrogen bonding and hydrogen bond strength, such as electric fields, should encourage reactivity. Water clusters (even with random arrangements) have equal hydrogen bonding in all directions. As such, electric or electromagnetic fields that attempt to reorient the water molecules should necessitate the breakage of some hydrogen bonds; for example, electric fields have been reported to halve the mean water cluster size as measured by 17O-NMR [111] (see also 'declustered' water) and increase reaction rates [1336], hydration and solubility. Electromagnetic radiation (for example, microwave) has been shown to exert its effect primarily through the electrical rather than magnetic effect [455]. The increased hydration ability of water in electromagnetic fields has been shown by the dissociation of an enzyme dimer (electric eel acetylcholinesterase), leading to gel formation, due to the microwave radiation from a mobile phone [714]. The resultant aqueous restructuring caused by such processes may be kinetically stable.

 

The solubility properties of the water will change in the presence of such fields and may result in the concentration of dissolved gases and hydrophobic molecules at surfaces followed by reaction (for example, due to reactive singlet oxygen (1O2) or free radical formation such as OH·) or phase changes (for example, formation of flattish surface nanocavities, termed nanobubbles [506]). It is also possible that these processes may result in the production of low concentrations of hydrogen peroxide in a similar manner to mechanical vibrations [1066, see equations]. Such changes can clearly result in effects lasting for a considerable time, giving rise to claims for 'memory' effects. One of the curious facts, concerning reports of the effects of magnets and electromagnetic radiation on the properties of water, is the long lifetime these effects seem to have (for example, [757]). This should not be so surprising, however, as it can take several days for the effects, of the addition of salts to water, to finally stop oscillating [4] and several months where such solutions are still changing [1148]. Also, there is evidence that water structuring in still deaerated pure water increases over a period of a day or two [509], changes in dilute ethanol solution over a period of days [1102], and in homeopathic preparations over hundreds of days [1039]g, clathrates may persist metastably in water [485], water restructuring after infrared radiation persists for more than a day [730], and water photoluminescence (possibly due to impurities at gas/liquid interfaces [800b]) changes over a period of days [801].

 

In addition to the breakage of hydrogen bonds electromagnetic fields may perturb in the gas/liquid interface and produce reactive oxygen species [110]. Changes in hydrogen bonding may effect carbon dioxide hydration resulting in pH changes. Thus the role of dissolved gas in water chemistry is likely to be more important than commonly realized [459]; particularly as the formation of nanobubbles (that is, nanocavities) [506, 1129, 1172] containing just a few hundred or less molecules of gas, the stability of larger bubbles (~300 nm diameter) detected by light scattering [800a] and nanobubble coating of hydrophobic surfaces [803] have all been recently described. Reinforcement of this view comes from the effect of magnetized water on ceramic manufacture [601] and out-gassing experiments that apparently result in the loss of magnetic and electromagnetic effects [110, 800a] or photoluminescent effects [800b]. Gas accumulating at hydrophobic surfaces [459b] promotes the hydrophobic effect and low-density water formation. The accumulated gas molecules at such hydrophobic surfaces becomes supersaturating when electromagnetic effects disrupt this surface low-density water. An interesting (and possibly related) 'memory of water' phenomenon is the effect of water, previously exposed to weak electromagnetic signals, on the distinctive patterns and handedness of colonies of certain bacteria [971]. Here, the water retains the effect for at least 20 minutes after exposure to the field.

http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/magnetic.html#em

Jeff Nading

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #302, on June 13th, 2012, 09:13 AM »Last edited on July 9th, 2012, 02:17 PM by Jeff Nading
Russ I really think you and everyone should really take a deep look at, Keshe's generator patent, here
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/pdfb/documents/ep/patent_pdf/1770/EP1770717A1/pdf/EP1770717A1.pdf

The reason I think this is because, Stan's EPG looks very, very similar to Keshe's generator :huh: , Keshe was way, way ahead of Stan on this devise. He uses multiple gases and more than one tube setups, could be tubes within a tube or in close proximity to one another. I really think that Keshe's design could have all the answers we have been looking for. Please, please everyone check this out, Jeff.:cool::D:P
PS Page 85 of patent:    For some applications of the core, where rapid energy is needed the gases in the core has to be sufficiently
ionized, so that free electrons can easily carry current in the gas layers. Gases in this reactor are like super conducting electromagnet's, that the system becomes a self-_sufficient .

PS to the PS  please read what Keshe recently posted on his forum.:D

http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2525

kcrawford

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #303, on July 9th, 2012, 01:13 PM »
Hey guys just something i found a while back, everyone seems to be trying to find a magnetic gas latice, however this video shows just that a gas that has magnetic propeties at least a starting point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=bFsZ1NrtIMk&NR=1

i know that a balloon does has some static electricity, however would equalize after the first test, and the second streaming test shows the same magnetic attraction.
Anyones thoughts. well im not completely sure how to make this magna arc reator used to make the gas.

Jeff Nading

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #304, on July 9th, 2012, 02:20 PM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on June 13th, 2012, 09:13 AM
Russ I really think you and everyone should really take a deep look at, Keshe's generator patent, here
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/pdfb/documents/ep/patent_pdf/1770/EP1770717A1/pdf/EP1770717A1.pdf

The reason I think this is because, Stan's EPG looks very, very similar to Keshe's generator :huh: , Keshe was way, way ahead of Stan on this devise. He uses multiple gases and more than one tube setups, could be tubes within a tube or in close proximity to one another. I really think that Keshe's design could have all the answers we have been looking for. Please, please everyone check this out, Jeff.:cool::D:P
PS Page 85 of patent:    For some applications of the core, where rapid energy is needed the gases in the core has to be sufficiently
ionized, so that free electrons can easily carry current in the gas layers. Gases in this reactor are like super conducting electromagnet's, that the system becomes a self-_sufficient .

PS to the PS  please read what Keshe recently posted on his forum.:D

http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2525
Maybe now would be the time to look and comment on this post.

Bruce

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #305, on July 13th, 2012, 10:02 PM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on May 2nd, 2011, 07:16 PM
hello everyone!

well i spent the time making a video today and my camera did not want to work for me... after i recorded the 30 min video... so i decided that you fellows that are here deserve a surprise...

see the photo on the front page of the Stanley Meyers EPG project page!    

here: http://rwgresearch.com/open-projects/stanley-meyers-epg-system/

yes, that is a high quality photo of the EPG... :) your welcome! but i could not do it with out you all so thanks!!!

also here is a dimensions photo i did... : http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/RWGresearch%20EPG%20dementions%20High%20Quility.jpg

well now, i got lots to tell about the photo so when i post the video we can discuss more! basically i can tell you what parts are what... :)

Thanks and enjoy! God Bless!

~Russ
Great simple process for a coil wrapping tool.  I remeber from building coils in school once that keeping the wraps in rows and tight to each wrap yielded a better coil performance.  I spent extra time to make sure my wraps did not overlap and my coil output was more intense than other's who's coils had less alighed wraps.  So I'm thinking that performance of the EPG fields might be effected by perfection of the coil wraps.

freethisone

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #306, on July 16th, 2012, 07:28 PM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on May 16th, 2012, 02:27 AM
Quote from Bwood5 on May 11th, 2012, 06:16 PM
Enjoyed all the great work you and your team here have done.  
Just saw this and it shows what you can do with the proper funding
http://www.princeton.edu/research/news/features/a/?id=7050

Also for those that don't know how a Spectrometer works you might want to take a class at MIT and waste 25 min. on youtube.
The math can get intense but hang in there.  He moves on to a basic cyclotron about 20 min in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8D3ikuyaGo

Russ
Is it possible to add 1 of your "coil cells" and a meter on the exaust port of your chamber as a detector?  
Seems like the next step is to determine/Improve the Ionization quality of what is moving through the chamber.
You may want to add shutoff valves to both sides to adjust the flow.

Also found some info on DID's (Discharge Ionization Detector) not sure if it appies?
https://www.thermo.com/eThermo/CMA/PDFs/Product/productFile_1000001009226.pdf
This is a generic PDF and there is a lot more detail on the subject but since i'm not sure if it applies I dont want to send you on a goose chase.
Note the polarizer voltage coming in at the bottom.  Can that be used to create + or - Ions??
Can helium be Ionized with a much lower voltage and amps?

Loved watching your cap blow :)
hummm, interesting idea.

so whats the Detector part of this unit???

i would say that there needs to be some kind of test for this but i'm having a hard time building / buying the equipment to do such a thing... lol

thanks for the ideas ~

~Russ
Hi All, I have a question. what is the required output voltage of the Vic coil? how many volts step up?

Many of the things i am seeing tell me somewhere in the neighborhood of 22,000 kilo volts? and a frequency as high... 22 thousand mega, or gig-hertz.

how much energy is actually needed for the corona to be optimum? I know needs testing.

I am also having a lot of thought on the voltages, and size of plates. I liked the starting point at about 96 volts, and a few mili amps. if i can locate the movie i will post it. he also used a 1 inch square plate, it was very thin  I  posted the exact aspects in my comment section on youtube. a wile ago so you have to scroll.

Any direction you are following as an update Russ?  

   Also i think the Adriano turned out great.
i was thinking fast square wave ramps increasing voltage at the fastest rates possible. looking forward to some testing.

cheers:P:P

~Russ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #307, on July 16th, 2012, 11:49 PM »
Quote from freethisone on July 16th, 2012, 07:28 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on May 16th, 2012, 02:27 AM
Quote from Bwood5 on May 11th, 2012, 06:16 PM
Enjoyed all the great work you and your team here have done.  
Just saw this and it shows what you can do with the proper funding
http://www.princeton.edu/research/news/features/a/?id=7050

Also for those that don't know how a Spectrometer works you might want to take a class at MIT and waste 25 min. on youtube.
The math can get intense but hang in there.  He moves on to a basic cyclotron about 20 min in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8D3ikuyaGo

Russ
Is it possible to add 1 of your "coil cells" and a meter on the exaust port of your chamber as a detector?  
Seems like the next step is to determine/Improve the Ionization quality of what is moving through the chamber.
You may want to add shutoff valves to both sides to adjust the flow.

Also found some info on DID's (Discharge Ionization Detector) not sure if it appies?
https://www.thermo.com/eThermo/CMA/PDFs/Product/productFile_1000001009226.pdf
This is a generic PDF and there is a lot more detail on the subject but since i'm not sure if it applies I dont want to send you on a goose chase.
Note the polarizer voltage coming in at the bottom.  Can that be used to create + or - Ions??
Can helium be Ionized with a much lower voltage and amps?

Loved watching your cap blow :)
hummm, interesting idea.

so whats the Detector part of this unit???

i would say that there needs to be some kind of test for this but i'm having a hard time building / buying the equipment to do such a thing... lol

thanks for the ideas ~

~Russ
Hi All, I have a question. what is the required output voltage of the Vic coil? how many volts step up?

Many of the things i am seeing tell me somewhere in the neighborhood of 22,000 kilo volts? and a frequency as high... 22 thousand mega, or gig-hertz.

how much energy is actually needed for the corona to be optimum? I know needs testing.

I am also having a lot of thought on the voltages, and size of plates. I liked the starting point at about 96 volts, and a few mili amps. if i can locate the movie i will post it. he also used a 1 inch square plate, it was very thin  I  posted the exact aspects in my comment section on youtube. a wile ago so you have to scroll.

Any direction you are following as an update Russ?  

   Also i think the Adriano turned out great.
i was thinking fast square wave ramps increasing voltage at the fastest rates possible. looking forward to some testing.

cheers:P:P
I got to get back to this!!! :)

i would like to do some HHO testing with it and then move to argon/iron... still a lot to do on the arc chamber and circuits...

a lot of thought has gone in tho this sense i got it build as to get it as close as i can to get the best results!

when my PC stops boiling in the garage i will continue again... ,my PC got so hot i had hardware failure and just getting it back up and going again... EGH!

~Russ

Bruce

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #308, on August 12th, 2012, 10:09 PM »
After initial review of several video content listed on RGWResearch.com and other sites, I am more and more convinced that Stanley Meyer did not use any real special gasses for the EPG.  In the New Zealand house videos, Stan discusses atomic structure and the polarization of molecular structures.  Several patents show similar indications of polarizing the gasses his VIC is generating.  

I have a theory that Stan was polarizing the gasses he was mixing (HHO, Exhaust, Ozone, possibly water vapor such as could be generated by ultrasonic wave generation) before sending them to the injector.  Again there appears to be evidence across several platforms that polarizing is an important part of a plasma process.

In review of the Keshe Energy Generator, reference is made to the Hydrogen atom's ability to generate electricity with simple ionization of hydrogen.  If you remember, one of Stan's patents showed a separate chamber which I believe is depicting an ionizer process.  Many of the processes such as the Papp engine are based upon generating a plasma environment and there being a resulting electrical generating side result.  I believe Stan's efforts showed the same results.  Plasma has a high concentration of polarized Ions and my suspect is that he discovered when they pass through a nonferrous material and coil, there was an electrical field generated.  It seems this does not happen when there is ferrous metal present and ferrous metals have an effect on plasma processes such as in the Papp engine technology where materials are non-ferrous.

I would offer that passing ionized hydrogen or even HHO through the EPG and venting it out the other end of the tubing would be sufficient for an experiment to see if there is any voltage generated from the coils.  What i do not understand is how to ionize hydrogen or HHO without combustion of the gases.  Then, I would offer to then run the experiment with non ionized/polarized gas to see what results.  Then close the system and run the experiments again.  What is unknown is that if the electromagnetic pump pulses would keep the gas in a polarized state or even polarize HHO.  My guess is that it would and I'm basing this on Stan's the core of Stan's work which was with the VIC, water, and HHO.  There is no indication in any of the patents reviewed by RWG of Nobel Gases being any part of Stan's work.  In addition, I would offer Stan's work was based around a natural resource available to all of mankind.  Water.  Gasses would need to be purchased and could be come another commodity like oil if it were used as a energy source.  This is one reason I personally am not excited about Nobile Gas technology.  If we can harness water then we truly have a free energy resource.    

~Russ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #309, on August 15th, 2012, 10:14 PM »Last edited on August 15th, 2012, 10:15 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from Bruce on August 12th, 2012, 10:09 PM
Plasma has a high concentration of polarized Ions and my suspect is that he discovered when they pass through a nonferrous material and coil, there was an electrical field generated.  It seems this does not happen when there is ferrous metal present and ferrous metals have an effect on plasma processes such as in the Papp engine technology where materials are non-ferrous.
yes. i beleave that the papp motor was aluminum as that plasma has high magnetism and there for has eddy currents.  this also keeps the plasma in the center... and off the side walls...
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I would offer that passing ionized hydrogen or even HHO through the EPG and venting it out the other end of the tubing would be sufficient for an experiment to see if there is any voltage generated from the coils.
to funny. i have been talking with others and telling them that i want to do theses simple tests and i will publish the results. i did some stuff a long time ago with the plastic pipe and it was interesting... but i did not publish anything as it was not set up to do so... soon i will do this on my live shows... but i need to get a new O scope first...
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What i do not understand is how to ionize hydrogen or HHO without combustion of the gases.  Then, I would offer to then run the experiment with non ionized/polarized gas to see what results.  Then close the system and run the experiments again.  What is unknown is that if the electromagnetic pump pulses would keep the gas in a polarized state or even polarize HHO.  My guess is that it would and I'm basing this on Stan's the core of Stan's work which was with the VIC, water, and HHO.  There is no indication in any of the patents reviewed by RWG of Nobel Gases being any part of Stan's work.  In addition, I would offer Stan's work was based around a natural resource available to all of mankind.  Water.  Gasses would need to be purchased and could be come another commodity like oil if it were used as a energy source.  This is one reason I personally am not excited about Nobile Gas technology.  If we can harness water then we truly have a free energy resource.
some good thoughts here. only time will tell...

thanks Bruce

~Russ


Jeff Nading

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #310, on August 16th, 2012, 06:41 AM »Last edited on August 16th, 2012, 06:43 AM by Jeff Nading
 There is no indication in any of the patents reviewed by RWG of Nobel Gases being any part of Stan's work.  In addition, I would offer Stan's work was based around a natural resource available to all of mankind.  Water.  Gasses would need to be purchased and could be come another commodity like oil if it were used as a energy source.  This is one reason I personally am not excited about Nobile Gas technology.  If we can harness water then we truly have a free energy resource.  

"As quoted from  Bruce above"
I would have to agree with this, thanks.:D


Ravenous Emu

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #311, on August 16th, 2012, 09:06 PM »
I'm going to jump in the middle of all this and go back to "ferrofluids".  You guys might like to read these articles.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news...ving-parts

Just did some more digging and this is what I've found....
http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/68673 :exclamation:
http://prb.aps.org/abstract/PRB/v84/i10/e104431
http://www.sciencedebate.com/science-blo...-machinery

Don't know if you've already seen this or not Russ.  Thought I'd pass it along.

~Russ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #312, on August 27th, 2012, 03:57 AM »Last edited on August 27th, 2012, 03:58 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
and more we look the more we learn... like i was saying i really think that this papp tech may have some key points to stans EPG...

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found in papp's patent:
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thanks! ~Russ

freethisone

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #313, on September 4th, 2012, 11:57 PM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on August 27th, 2012, 03:57 AM
and more we look the more we learn... like i was saying i really think that this papp tech may have some key points to stans EPG...



found in papp's patent:


thanks! ~Russ
interesting. i would also add some similarity to the vapor motor patent in 1920.

I noticed a key secret is PSI how much pressure is behind the  injectors of a new sports car. They keep gradually rising the injectors ratings.
My mustang came stock in 1986 with 19 lb injectors. today the new 5.0 muscle cars have 49, or 50 lb injectors stock.

the key feature is how much pressure is behind the flame front in the cylinder. leads to better fuel economy, and performance.

develop a 200 lb injector, galvanized steel could work, or nickle plated..
use a glow plug like in a diesel motor. or a induction coil.

:cool:

FaradayEZ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #314, on September 6th, 2012, 03:58 AM »

Hi EPG, ers

I guess i don't understand it propperly.
The way i review the explanations at the start of the lecture.

It seems like Stan wanted to get extra volts and current out of the pickup coils.

I haven't seen a video where this is proofed. How i understand magnetics i don't even see it possible. I keep thinking that the gas running around gets resistance from the pickup coils.

If the speeding gas induces an magnetic force to give the pickup coils there juice..then the pickup coils will counteract the initial force. As nobody likes to work for free..coils also don't like it ;)

And even when Stan then wants to go to lightspeed or increasing the mass and states that the emf lags behind... then it still isn't fooled.

Then the back emf..the induction force works on the gas behind the gas already gone through.. and still slows down the whole gasring as it is also one ring and behaving as one, alongside it also being a lot of individual ions.

So i still don't know where the extra power has to come from and i haven't seen a video where they show that or explain where it come's from.

The lecture video's stan newzealand_1 to 9 i couldn't find on utube

I compare the EPG with the bendini way... creating a lot of volts but no substance...no current...no power...

Nice to desulphate lead batteries but no use else

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


I don't want to step on some toes here, and i do believe in zero point energy
but i can't see the EPG doing it... or i haven't understood the brilliance of it yet

Greetingsss


EZ










HMS-776

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #315, on November 15th, 2012, 10:49 PM »Last edited on November 15th, 2012, 11:34 PM by HMS-776
After some studying of the EPG it seems rather simple, but that's a mistake I've made before.

Each EPG uses a circuit very similiar to the variable pulse freq gen to drive the electromagnetic pump coils. The pulse from the variable pulse freq gen switches opto-couplers, which switch the 3055 transistors and drive the pump coils.

Although the electromagnetic pump coil drive circuits are simple, Getting the EPG to work would be no easy task.

First off, To magnetize a ferrofluid you must apply an external magnetic field to aligh the particles within the fluid.
How are you going to align the particles in a fluid using a magnetic field and maintain that alignment while pumping the fluid in another direction?

Has anyone here considered:
-Calculating the volt-seconds (Webers) when designing the electromagnetic pump  to ensure the fluid core does not saturate?
-Finding out if the fluid has a relaxation time, what it is and what's it's relation would be to the fluid velocity?
-Calculating the inductance the coils would have when the fluid becomes magnetized to find out what the possible power output would be
-Figuring out what other forumlas and knowledge would be required to design it?

Not trying to discourage anyone here but the truth is Meyer's work is not so simple. He only provides the basic explanation of things. Building something is the easy part, it's the understanding and the engineering that keeps us all from a successful replication.

Gunther Rattay

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #316, on November 16th, 2012, 02:13 AM »
Quote from HMS-776 on November 15th, 2012, 10:49 PM
After some studying of the EPG it seems rather simple, but that's a mistake I've made before.

Each EPG uses a circuit very similiar to the variable pulse freq gen to drive the electromagnetic pump coils. The pulse from the variable pulse freq gen switches opto-couplers, which switch the 3055 transistors and drive the pump coils.

Although the electromagnetic pump coil drive circuits are simple, Getting the EPG to work would be no easy task.

First off, To magnetize a ferrofluid you must apply an external magnetic field to aligh the particles within the fluid.
How are you going to align the particles in a fluid using a magnetic field and maintain that alignment while pumping the fluid in another direction?

Has anyone here considered:
-Calculating the volt-seconds (Webers) when designing the electromagnetic pump  to ensure the fluid core does not saturate?
-Finding out if the fluid has a relaxation time, what it is and what's it's relation would be to the fluid velocity?
-Calculating the inductance the coils would have when the fluid becomes magnetized to find out what the possible power output would be
-Figuring out what other forumlas and knowledge would be required to design it?

Not trying to discourage anyone here but the truth is Meyer's work is not so simple. He only provides the basic explanation of things. Building something is the easy part, it's the understanding and the engineering that keeps us all from a successful replication.
I agree.

There are great tools available like Spice, Mathlab and Maple.

Without calculation there is no way to go ...

HMS-776

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #317, on November 16th, 2012, 05:16 AM »Last edited on November 17th, 2012, 10:15 PM by HMS-776
Exactly, and then there's the magnetic gas version which is even more complex.
There's just a lot to consider when it comes to replicating. Stan's documentation assumes the reader has experience in the art, so if you don't there's alot of important info missing.

Jeff Nading

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #318, on November 16th, 2012, 06:33 AM »Last edited on November 18th, 2012, 10:37 AM by Jeff Nading
Hi guy's, I really think there is a person "terry.dixon" on this forum that has a wealth of knowledge that we should try to tap into and haven't, he has posted a few times but never got a response from anyone but me. I think him to be  one person who can shed much light on the many discussions we are involved in on this forum. Here are his posts

http://open-source-energy.org/forum/search.php?action=results&sid=e3901b0801ddcdb039844de16447db58

http://open-source-energy.org/?action=profile;u=9359


Please look over his posts, then if you think he could help, please contact him and ask that he start posting again to help with the quest we all have, thanks, Jeff.:cool::D:P

trav413

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #319, on November 18th, 2012, 07:05 AM »Last edited on November 18th, 2012, 12:29 PM by trav413
Hey guys,
I have just spent hours going over the EPG and think that Stan used a magnetron which would oscillate on the z axis. I mentioned in a previous post that it appears that Stan used a microwave waveguide on the HGG that was used on the water fuel cell . If this is the case you could possibly use water fuel cell in conjunction with the EPG . I hope someone who has more knowledge than me on this will have a look and see if im even close to what you all are leaning towards .
Thanks
http://personal.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/D.Jefferies/wguide.html
http://em.n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetron
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/4938/RLE-TR-108-04711153.pdf?sequence=1

HMS-776

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #320, on November 20th, 2012, 10:00 AM »Last edited on November 20th, 2012, 10:29 AM by HMS-776
I think the first question to ask is: How do you break metal down to it's atomic form?
From the reading I have done you use a metal ion generator.

I think Stan said on his New Zealand video how it can be done.


FaradayEZ

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #322, on November 22nd, 2012, 09:53 AM »Last edited on December 28th, 2012, 05:34 AM by FaradayEZ
As i wrote before not to see how the EPG could work with Stan's setup;

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=41&pid=7335#pid7335

it is only fair also to write when i do see a possibility:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=659&pid=9774#pid9774

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RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
 (11-18-2012 09:21 AM)
Axil Wrote:  
The Popper produces plasmoids, so I have been looking into this area of plasma physics. Ken shoulders has been doing research into plasmoids for some time now, and has make an observation that is valuable to us.

 Ken Shoulders' observations of the plasmoids support the conjecture that they are like vacuum energy pumps. As the plasmoid propagates down in a dielectric guide, it is constantly ionizing the dielectric surface, emitting electrons and emitting light. Yet the plasmoid does not decay. It yields the same pulse when it hits the anode regardless of the distance it travels in the guide. Also, when the high velocity plasmoid triggers a pulse on a surrounding coil, it likewise does not decay. Moreover, the output pulse from the coil exceeds the input pulse that originally launched the plasmoid. The plasmoid must keep moving to remain stable, and seems to "feed" from its environment, absorbing electrons preceding it and shedding electrons in its wake.

 In our case, the plasmoid feeds on the electrons from the electrically neutral gas in front of it and sheds electrons in its wake.

 In our designs, it is important to neutralize the electrically ionized gas between spark discharges so that the plasmoid produced by the next spark discharge can feed properly in order to gain strength and speed.
So there's the answer for an EPG that could work. Instead of a whole ring with gas, a travelling FRC plasmoid that gives of electrons whatever length it travels.
 Greetingsss....

 EZ: "I believe the golden key is always resonance"



Jeff Nading

RE: Lecture/Open Discussion of my work on the EPG system
« Reply #323, on November 22nd, 2012, 08:39 PM »Last edited on November 22nd, 2012, 08:39 PM by Jeff Nading
Quote from Bruce on November 20th, 2012, 11:05 AM
I am curious where the idea of ferofluids came from?  I cannot find any place where Stan talks about ferofluids.
It was just an idea that did not pan out, thought it would work in the epg but proved not to work.:D