Quote from rheandros on April 24th, 2012, 01:40 PM

Hello all,
I have a question, because some funny pictures are in my head. What if the change the inner part with the outer part. What if we put a coil in a bigger pipe(like a toroid) and put around the gas pipe?
My knowledge on the toroid transformer is, that the magnetic field concentrate in its inner part(on a normal transformer the ferrid). In this picture it will be a coil.

Second thing is, when we wind the gas coil like a rodin coil? The Rodin Style is very strong.

or a tesla pan cake coil....thoughts are running.....

hope i get a reply to my thoughts....

Special thanks to Russ and every one who let it grow.

If Schaubergers work will fuse with this, it will get really funny.

cu ben

good thoughts. my buddy was going to make some Reilly complicated stuff like that... :)

there may be some ways to do such a thing, just Remember. a system may work, but the eazyest is the best! :)

keep up the thoughts there good. ( out side the box) :)

~Russ

Hi Russ,

I wounder if you have tried to simply, pump the frothy waters near to top of the WFC tubes and pumped it through the experimental EPG, that you had created, recycling it back into the WFC. Have you done that experiment? If you did, were there any results?

I recently watched a video lecture by Andrija Puharich...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa0bFK6iNI
He mentions that fact that there may be more energy to be taken from the action of the recombination of H2 and O. I am not a chemist, but I wounder if that may be an energy release occurring in the slurry, which may be augmented by the action of pulsing it and then capturing that energy release in the coils of the EPG.
Water is fracturing and recombining within the slurry in the WFC.

Best,
-Dogs

Quote from Dogs on April 25th, 2012, 09:03 PM

Hi Russ,

I wounder if you have tried to simply, pump the frothy waters near to top of the WFC tubes and pumped it through the experimental EPG, that you had created, recycling it back into the WFC. Have you done that experiment? If you did, were there any results?

I recently watched a video lecture by Andrija Puharich...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa0bFK6iNI
He mentions that fact that there may be more energy to be taken from the action of the recombination of H2 and O. I am not a chemist, but I wounder if that may be an energy release occurring in the slurry, which may be augmented by the action of pulsing it and then capturing that energy release in the coils of the EPG.
Water is fracturing and recombining within the slurry in the WFC.

Best,
-Dogs

well... sadly, no. i haven't, but i will be. soon! as well as just argon and just ionized argon... try some random stuff... just to see anything... i guess i am just waiting for the best tests for the application... but yes i need to do these basic tests as the epg is ready for this.

funny thing... i just watched that video! lol :) ~Russ

Russ,

This prob deserves it's own new thread...

"
indeed it dose... all please post your thoughts here on this subject:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=468

thanks, ~Russ
"

Thanks for the tip on reviewing the Dealership Sales Manual.
After looking it over for the last 2 nights, I realized that I did not understand the Electrical Polarization Generator (Fig 40). But I had heard mention of the extraction of energy directly from the gas. But, never understood it.
What is interesting is that Stan does not seem to have a patent on this particular component.

So what does it do? It extracts the positive potential from the newly generated gas by sending the gas into this unit. This unit EPolG works by diverting negatively charged atoms (O) through the center as a pass thru. The positively charged atoms (H), are diverted to a chamber of metallic fins that get positively charged.

The diversion trick is done by electro-statically charging the screens that are openings to the appropriate chambers. Negative atoms are attracted to the positively charged screen and vise-versa. These screens have to be insulated from each other, of course. And, care must be taken that static sparks don't occur within the chamber, which would ignite the hho gas.

Now the metallic fins have a positive potential due to exposure from the positive atoms of hydrogen... Which means that we can drive a load by connecting the load between the positive potential and ground.

Now that we have extracted the positive potential from the HHO gas, I wounder if that helps to prime the gas for magnetically pumping it through the EPG. Not sure... But, it is cool to see another mode of directly extracting energy from the WFC system.

It seems that much care must be taken with this experiment as it involves Electrostatics, which typically involves possible sparking and a largish chamber for the energy extraction (EPolG) which contains our explosive elements. Thus the electrostatic generator must be variable as Stan specifies.


Best,
-Dogs

Quote from Dogs on April 26th, 2012, 03:28 PM

Russ,

This prob deserves it's own new thread...

Thanks for the tip on reviewing the Dealership Sales Manual.
After looking it over for the last 2 nights, I realized that I did not understand the Electrical Polarization Generator (Fig 40). But I had heard mention of the extraction of energy directly from the gas. But, never understood it.
What is interesting is that Stan does not seem to have a patent on this particular component.

So what does it do? It extracts the positive potential from the newly generated gas by sending the gas into this unit. This unit EPolG works by diverting negatively charged atoms (O) through the center as a pass thru. The positively charged atoms (H), are diverted to a chamber of metallic fins that get positively charged.

The diversion trick is done by electro-statically charging the screens that are openings to the appropriate chambers. Negative atoms are attracted to the positively charged screen and vise-versa. These screens have to be insulated from each other, of course. And, care must be taken that static sparks don't occur within the chamber, which would ignite the hho gas.

Now the metallic fins have a positive potential due to exposure from the positive atoms of hydrogen... Which means that we can drive a load by connecting the load between the positive potential and ground.

Now that we have extracted the positive potential from the HHO gas, I wounder if that helps to prime the gas for magnetically pumping it through the EPG. Not sure... But, it is cool to see another mode of directly extracting energy from the WFC system.

It seems that much care must be taken with this experiment as it involves Electrostatics, which typically involves possible sparking and a largish chamber for the energy extraction (EPolG) which contains our explosive elements. Thus the electrostatic generator must be variable as Stan specifies.


Best,
-Dogs

yep!

i did indeed view this information a while back, good stuff and its interesting. and it also should be in a new thread! i will make it here:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=468

also i will add a link in your original post to get people over there if they see this.

i will post my thoughts on the new thread!

~Russ

Quote

yep!

i did indeed view this information a while back, good stuff and its interesting. and it also should be in a new thread! i will make it here:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=468

also i will add a link in your original post to get people over there if they see this.

i will post my thoughts on the new thread!

~Russ

The Electronic Polarization Generator also brings up another realization...
What really, causes the molecular movement is the static voltage field. Which is not a magnetic field. As, in the Electronic Polarization Generator, we use a static generator to cause the positive atoms to move towards the negative static charge, as vice-versa. And, in the WFC, we use the static voltage fields to tear HHO apart...

Maybe, instead of using a magnetic operation (magnetic sequential pulses), we use an electro-static operation, as is done in the WFC, but on the tube sections that are under the pulsing cores that you created.

   ---(~)--------(

• ) ---->|--------------o

power        Coil      Diode     Core Under Coil

The motivating force within all of this technology is the static voltage field.
Static in the sense that it is high voltage with little to no amperage.

We would pulse the negative static charge as the gas and water itself is mostly positively charged (due to 2 Hs). It is also interesting that there are experiments where water is deflected using static charges, or is used to generate static charge.

So, we should be able to motivate water using pulsing static charge.
As we know that this is being done within the WFC and within the steam resonator.
But in these cases we are either tearing water apart, or resonating it to heat it. But, what we really want to do is simply flow it in a single direction. Using the same technique, Pulsing Static Voltage.

Best,
-Dogs

Quote

yep!

i did indeed view this information a while back, good stuff and its interesting. and it also should be in a new thread! i will make it here:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=468

also i will add a link in your original post to get people over there if they see this.

i will post my thoughts on the new thread!

Hi Russ,

The Electrical Polarization Generator also lead me to an other realization...
Within all of this technology, Stan uses the Static Voltage Field as the prime motivator for tearing water apart, and for shifting back and forth to very quickly heat it up.

It seems to me that what we really need to use to within the EPG is not magnetic pulsing, but once again, Static Voltage Field pulsing.

Here's the setup...
 power     coil     core      diode
---(~)------(((([0]))))------>|-----+
                         |                      |
                         +-----------------+
((( : coil
[ : core
->| : diode
o : pipe in the center containing slurry.

What we want is to generate a high negative voltage field to attract the Hydrogen (+) towards a given core.

I believe that this is the key to the EPG and to a new mode of proportion in water.
Leverage the fact that the Static Voltage field attracts or repels the greater content of water H(+).

Best,
-Dogs

Quote

yep!

i did indeed view this information a while back, good stuff and its interesting. and it also should be in a new thread! i will make it here:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=468

also i will add a link in your original post to get people over there if they see this.

i will post my thoughts on the new thread!

Hi Russ,

The Electrical Polarization Generator also lead me to an other realization...
Within all of this technology, Stan uses the Static Voltage Field as the prime motivator for tearing water apart, and for shifting back and forth to very quickly heat it up.

It seems to me that what we really need to use to within the EPG is not magnetic pulsing, but once again, Static Voltage Field pulsing.

Here's the setup...
 power     coil     core      diode
---(~)------(((([0]))))------>|-----+
                         |                      |
                         +-----------------+
((( : coil
[ : core
->| : diode
o : pipe in the center containing slurry.

What we want is to generate a high negative voltage field to attract the Hydrogen (+) towards a given core.

I believe that this is the key to the EPG and to a new mode of proportion in water.
Leverage the fact that the Static Voltage field attracts or repels the greater content of water H(+).

Best,
-Dogs

Hi Russ,

Thanks for setting up the new thread...

The Electrical Polarization Generator also lead me to an other realization...
Within all of this technology, Stan uses the Static Voltage Field as the prime motivator for tearing water apart, and for shifting back and forth to very quickly heat it up.

It seems to me that what we really need to use to within the EPG is not magnetic pulsing, but once again, Static Voltage Field pulsing.

Here's the setup...
 power     coil     core      diode
---(~)------(((([0]))))------>|-----+
                         |                      |
                         +-----------------+
((( : coil
[ : core
->| : diode
o : pipe in the center containing slurry.

What we want is to generate a high negative voltage field to attract the Hydrogen (+) towards a given core.

I believe that this is the key to the EPG and to a new mode of proportion in water.
Leverage the fact that the Static Voltage field attracts or repels the greater content of water H(+).

Best,
-Dogs

Hi Russ,

Thanks for setting up the new thread...

The Electrical Polarization Generator also lead me to an other realization...
Within all of this technology, Stan uses the Static Voltage Field as the prime motivator for tearing water apart, and for shifting back and forth to very quickly heat it up.

It seems to me that what we really need to use to within the EPG is not magnetic pulsing, but once again, Static Voltage Field pulsing.

Here's the setup...
 power     coil     core      diode
---(~)------(((([0]))))------>|-----+
                         |                      |
                         +-----------------+
((( : coil
[ : core
->| : diode
o : pipe in the center containing slurry.

What we want is to generate a high negative voltage field to attract the Hydrogen (+) towards a given core.

I believe that this is the key to the EPG and to a new mode of proportion in water.
Leverage the fact that the Static Voltage field attracts or repels the greater content of water H(+).

Best,
-Dogs

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 27th, 2012, 02:56 AM

yep!

i did indeed view this information a while back, good stuff and its interesting. and it also should be in a new thread! i will make it here:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=468

also i will add a link in your original post to get people over there if they see this.

i will post my thoughts on the new thread!

~Russ

Hi Russ,

Thanks for setting up the new thread...

The Electrical Polarization Generator also lead me to an other realization...
Within all of this technology, consistently Stan uses the Static Voltage Field as the prime motivator for tearing water apart, and for shifting back and forth to very quickly heat it up.

It seems to me that what we really need to use to within the EPG is not magnetic pulsing, but once again, Static Voltage Field pulsing.

Here's the setup...
 power     coil     core      diode
---(~)------(((([0]))))------>|-----+
                         |                      |
                         +-----------------+
((( : coil
[ : core
->| : diode
o : pipe in the center containing slurry.

What we want is to generate a high negative voltage field to attract the Hydrogen (+) towards a given core.

I believe that this is the key to the EPG and to a Stan's "new mode of propulsion in water".

Leverage the fact that the Static Voltage field attracts or repels the greater (positive) content charge of water H(+).

Best,
-Dogs

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 27th, 2012, 02:56 AM

yep!

i did indeed view this information a while back, good stuff and its interesting. and it also should be in a new thread! i will make it here:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=468

also i will add a link in your original post to get people over there if they see this.

i will post my thoughts on the new thread!

~Russ

Hi Russ,

Thanks for setting up the new thread...

The Electrical Polarization Generator also lead me to an other realization...
Within all of this technology, consistently Stan uses the Static Voltage Field as the prime motivator for tearing water apart, and for shifting back and forth to very quickly heat it up.

It seems to me that what we really need to use to within the EPG is not magnetic pulsing, but once again, Static Voltage Field pulsing.

Here's the setup...
 power     coil     core      diode
---(~)------(((([0]))))------>|-----+
                         |                      |
                         +-----------------+
((( : coil
[ : core
->| : diode
o : pipe in the center containing slurry.

What we want is to generate a high negative voltage field to attract the Hydrogen (+) towards a given core.

I believe that this is the key to the EPG and to a Stan's "new mode of propulsion in water".

Leverage the fact that the Static Voltage field attracts or repels the greater (positive) content charge of water H(+).

Best,
-Dogs

Hi Russ,

Thanks for setting up the new thread...

The Electrical Polarization Generator also lead me to an other realization...
Within all of this technology, Stan uses the Static Voltage Field as the prime motivator for tearing water apart, and for shifting back and forth to very quickly heat it up.

It seems to me that what we really need to use to within the EPG is not magnetic pulsing, but once again, Static Voltage Field pulsing.

Here's the setup...
 power     coil     core      diode
---(~)------(((([0]))))------>|-----+
                         |                      |
                         +-----------------+
((( : coil
[ : core
->| : diode
o : pipe in the center containing slurry.

What we want is to generate a high negative voltage field to attract the Hydrogen (+) towards a given core.

I believe that this is the key to the EPG and to a new mode of proportion in water.
Leverage the fact that the Static Voltage field attracts or repels the greater content of water H(+).

Best,
-Dogs

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 27th, 2012, 02:56 AM

yep!

i did indeed view this information a while back, good stuff and its interesting. and it also should be in a new thread! i will make it here:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=468

also i will add a link in your original post to get people over there if they see this.

i will post my thoughts on the new thread!

~Russ

Hi Russ,

Thanks for setting up the new thread...

The Electrical Polarization Generator also lead me to an other realization...
Within all of this technology, consistently Stan uses the Static Voltage Field as the prime motivator for tearing water apart, and for shifting back and forth to very quickly heat it up.

It seems to me that what we really need to use to within the EPG is not magnetic pulsing, but once again, Static Voltage Field pulsing.

Here's the setup...

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  power     coil  core       diode
---(~)------(((([0]))))------>|-----+
                  |                 |
                  +-----------------+

--Key--
 ((( ))) : coil
     [ ] : core
  -->|-- : diode
       o : pipe in the center containing slurry.


What we want, is to generate a high negative voltage field to attract the Hydrogen (+) towards a given core.

I believe that this is the key to the EPG and to a Stan's "new mode of propulsion in water".

Leverage the fact that the Static Voltage field attracts or repels the greater (positive) content charge of water H(+).

Not sure if the winding will add to the effect.
May be able to attain results without the need of windings.
Just rings around the tubes.
Or, maybe just pulse the existing windings with an electro static HV pulse...

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.                             diode
--(~)---[transformer]---hv---->|----(((([o]))))

winding terminates at the core around the pipe ( [ ] ).



Best,
-Dogs
test... Can't seem to post a new reply...

Vacuum Ion Chamber Tests For EPG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-cLlbTZfm0
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-soxO-67vFU

thanks! also see here:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=400

God Bless! ~Russ

russ check this link out http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter11.pdf a little work of telsa  

russ check this link out http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter11.pdf a little work of telsa  try this link about tesla power from air  http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter11.pdf

Hey Russ,

I've kinda been thinking that it may make things less volatile if one could separate the H from the O.  Then you could simply run an engine much like u did with the little generator, but use a fuel cell as a source of energy.  Please excuse me but I've only thought this out and have not draw anything up yet so plz try to visualize this description.  Have an outlet tube on top of the fuel cell made out of whatever materials.  This straight tube runs to a Y connector.  I saw you have pulsing coils that go 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 with the arduino.  Put these coils on both sides of the Y connector's tubing.  Make one bank pulse (+) and one pulse (-).  in theory you could attract the O with the negative and the hydrogen with the positive.  and since your coils made a "projecting" motion much like a gauss cannon (LOL) it may be possible to "project" those gases into separate containing tanks or whatever is applicable.   let me know what ya think plz.  :)

Quote from xxzeropiontxx on April 30th, 2012, 07:08 PM

russ check this link out http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter11.pdf a little work of telsa  
try this link about tesla power from air  http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter11.pdf

Thank you! I will, have looked here and there but that's I cool concept,

Quote from Proeliator53 on May 1st, 2012, 04:32 PM

Hey Russ,

I've kinda been thinking that it may make things less volatile if one could separate the H from the O.  Then you could simply run an engine much like u did with the little generator, but use a fuel cell as a source of energy.  Please excuse me but I've only thought this out and have not draw anything up yet so plz try to visualize this description.  Have an outlet tube on top of the fuel cell made out of whatever materials.  This straight tube runs to a Y connector.  I saw you have pulsing coils that go 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 with the arduino.  Put these coils on both sides of the Y connector's tubing.  Make one bank pulse (+) and one pulse (-).  in theory you could attract the O with the negative and the hydrogen with the positive.  and since your coils made a "projecting" motion much like a gauss cannon (LOL) it may be possible to "project" those gases into separate containing tanks or whatever is applicable.   let me know what ya think plz.  :)

Hummm, yeah, I see what you mean!

Intresting idea.

I can seprate the H and O with bills split gas cell!

All,

See this that is kinda cool
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2011/sep/26/ferrofluid-pump-has-no-moving-parts

Thanks to pete for the link!

Hi  Russ
 
Hi all  pugsley here

You all are doing a FANTASTIC job  keep it rolling!!   I too would like to jump in.  I put together My own 18" 3/8 diam. copper unit. I riffle brushed inside soldered connections for brighter finish 1000 turns per section 28 awg   pulsing coils  ferrite core 200 turns per. 28 awg. pulsing coils secondary 36 awg, I still need to hit a junk yard for a sight glass photon inject lens.
I have an a/c evac. pump and fittings
gas...gas..
I have a tig  welder with argon and a mig welder with argon/carbon mix??? might aid in vaporization I remember at one point Craig Westbrook talked about carbon   just a though  

              Thanks   Dan  
         

Quote from Pugsley on May 8th, 2012, 08:43 AM

Hi  Russ
 
Hi all  pugsley here

You all are doing a FANTASTIC job  keep it rolling!!   I too would like to jump in.  I put together My own 18" 3/8 diam. copper unit. I riffle brushed inside soldered connections for brighter finish 1000 turns per section 28 awg   pulsing coils  ferrite core 200 turns per. 28 awg. pulsing coils secondary 36 awg, I still need to hit a junk yard for a sight glass photon inject lens.
I have an a/c evac. pump and fittings
gas...gas..
I have a tig  welder with argon and a mig welder with argon/carbon mix??? might aid in vaporization I remember at one point Craig Westbrook talked about carbon   just a though  

              Thanks   Dan  
         

Very impressive  pugsley, that looks great, good job.:D:cool:

welcome pugsley!

as we  discussed on the phone!

FANTASTIC!

it really looks better than mine! lol

hope to help each other get this gas going... :)

how do you plan on testing the output? got an scope or what?

amazing job as i know who much dedication it takes to get this that far! lol

could you post a schematic of your setup. i know its after Stans original but it could help others.

Blessings my friend! chat again soon! ~Russ

Hey Guys sorry about such a large picture    the irony of it is It's a big deal to get this kind of thing up and running so  big it is (LOL) I have a scope to monitor any out put  The sad part is a lead from the  2nd channel and hi res freq. counter fell across a hi voltage source and pop!  no freq. counter  and any thing above 2 volts per div. not working.   channel 1 ok so far  Just the price we pay for R&D  
The schematic is from hi res.pics. that russ supplied I will post a pic of the schematic
I'm in the proses of making a evacuated chamber for gas manufacturing.   I'm just not sure if I can keep up with the pace y'all  have set man you guys are smokin along  !!!   I will be posting every thing relevant to what I'm doing
It just my take a moment or two    Thanks  Every one

Quote from Pugsley on May 9th, 2012, 06:10 PM

Hey Guys sorry about such a large picture    the irony of it is It's a big deal to get this kind of thing up and running so  big it is (LOL) I have a scope to monitor any out put  The sad part is a lead from the  2nd channel and hi res freq. counter fell across a hi voltage source and pop!  no freq. counter  and any thing above 2 volts per div. not working.   channel 1 ok so far  Just the price we pay for R&D  
The schematic is from hi res.pics. that russ supplied I will post a pic of the schematic
I'm in the proses of making a evacuated chamber for gas manufacturing.   I'm just not sure if I can keep up with the pace y'all  have set man you guys are smokin along  !!!   I will be posting every thing relevant to what I'm doing
It just my take a moment or two    Thanks  Every one

Manny thanks for sharing in the open and being apart of the change that's happening! fantastic!!!

i'm trying to put together a tig welder type of circuit so we can brake down the iron ect..

will post the data and circuits when i get there...

under a vacuum or a vacuum with argon ect... we can only try and see what works...


~Russ

~Russ

some thoughts from Terry Dixon

Quote

Russ, My name is Terry Dixon. I am new here and have been talking back and forth with Jeff Nading about the EPG system. He ask that I PM you with this information so here goes.

For the last 15 years I was a Servive Engineer with Thermo Fisher Scientific working on Process Mass Spectrometers. A Mass Spec instrument is a gas analyser that analysis gas by ionizing the samples then seperating the ions by Mass to Charge Ratio (Atomic weight and charge crated by removing one or more electrons).

The process of ionization is carried out by bombarding a molecule with a beam of electrons. We used a Thoria coated Rhrnium filament that looks like a regular single filament inside a light bulb. When you put a current flow into a filament there is an excess of electrons produced and they go in all directions from the filament just like the photons emitted from a light bulb. When an excited or accelerated electron hits another molecule, there is a possibility that it will hit one of the outer valence electrons in the gas molecule and its like a pool ball that hits another ball. The electron jumps into a higher orbit and flys away. This leaves the molecule short an electron and it now has a positive charge.
Any Ion with a charge can be manipulated by a magnetic force. This is what we do in the Mass spec. We create ions then aim them at a detector by guiding them with a large electromagnet. We guide the molecules in an arc resulting in a seperation by atomic mass to charge ratio. In other words the heavier the mass of a molecule it cant turn the corner as fast as a lighter molecule so the ions are seperated by mass around the corner. We just adjust the magnetic force to aim a certian mass at the detector.
I think that the EPG system must be ionizing the samples in the first device or injection system with a high voltage spike similar to the filament we use. If the gas is a water vapor then the ionization will create O2+ ions and H+ ions. They are then introduced into the large diameter coil with a charge so they can then be manipulated by the magnetic forces of the many coils on the round device.
I think that the large diameter copper tube coil is like the primary coil in a Tesla coil with just a few turns. They possibly are not shorted together as you have done on your assembly but are seperated. It looks in the photo like they are caoted or painted. This would insulate the turns from each other creating a large diameter 4 or 5 turn coil. The gas would then exit as spent fuel to be reused again or be burned as it is the H2 and O2 Gases.
In my opinion, If these gases are accelerated through the large diameter prmary coil, because they are ions and have a charge, they have the ability to induce a large voltage on the secondary smaller windings around the coil. In other words the system looks like a Tesla coil in the round if you will. Creating the Water seperation into ions and having a by product of harvisting the ambient energy just like in a Tesla coil.

Anyway - there are some of my thoughts.

hello terry!

i do know what a Mass Spectrometer is, got a friend that build one from scratch! Smile

Interesting enough stans cell used high voltage to split the water, in the prosses he was ionizing the gas... and bam, you have just what you described!

now,

how can i ionize both H and O together? with out them exploding?

any thoughts?

i guess i can do it separately?

thanks terry!

~Russ

some thoughts from dogs! :

Quote

I deleted my post regard ElectroStatic Pulsing over Magnetic Pulsing.
After reviewing the thread below...
/showthread.php?tid=400&pid=4658#pid4658

I understand now that using magnetics is the ideal mode of use of the EPG, but requires the Argon/Cobalt/Nickel, magnetically polarized gas matrix.

I also, reviewed the "House meeting in New Zealand" video where Stan talks about the EPG and the magnetized gas.

I thought for sure that Stan talks about water propulsion on some video...
Maybe I just mis-understood what he was talking about...
...

Just reviewed the 3rd video of the "House meeting in New Zealand", where he covers the fact that when using laser light within the EPG (He does this to increase the mass of the atomic gas matrix), then, you no-longer need to motivate the gas, because it's the shock wave of the light itself that causes the electrical field generation (which is then caught by the pickup coils), as the electrons move away from the atomic nucleus, which then results is a higher magnetic energy in the gas. Thus, powering all of New Zealand with a single EPG, and entering the relm of OU.

Fascinating...

Now, back to the Magnetic Gas Lattice...

Argon (Lubricator, Non Electric, Non Magnetic)
Cobalt Ions
Nickel Ions

Cobalt Ions
Co^2+, Co^3+
Generate using HV to a pure Cobalt wire.

Nickel Ions
Ni^2+, Ni^3+
Generate using HV to a pure Nickel wire.

Iron Ions
Fe^2+, Fe^3+
Generate using HV to a pure Nickel wire.

Generate Cobalt and Nickel Ions using HV within an Argon filled chamber.
- Pass Gas Mixture through VIC and expose to laser energy.
- This destabilizes the Atomic Structures of the main elements in the Gas. So that that we can extract some electrons from them.
- Use electron extraction circuit to remove extra electrons. Now our atoms will be will to take on covalent bonds that they would normally never take on.
- Allow Unstable Gas to stabilize into the new Gas Matrix by making new covalent bonds.

Pump gases into EPG.
Test EPG for appropriate Magnetic Qualities of the Gas Lattice.
- Does pulsing it result in some energy output from the pickup coils?

Damn! That boy was Brilliant!
- Not just theory, but applied science.
- Mechanics, Electronics, Chemistry, Nuclear Physics...
- Amazing stuff!

-Dogs

~Russ

Enjoyed all the great work you and your team here have done.  
Just saw this and it shows what you can do with the proper funding
http://www.princeton.edu/research/news/features/a/?id=7050

Also for those that don't know how a Spectrometer works you might want to take a class at MIT and waste 25 min. on youtube.
The math can get intense but hang in there.  He moves on to a basic cyclotron about 20 min in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8D3ikuyaGo

Russ
Is it possible to add 1 of your "coil cells" and a meter on the exaust port of your chamber as a detector?  
Seems like the next step is to determine/Improve the Ionization quality of what is moving through the chamber.
You may want to add shutoff valves to both sides to adjust the flow.

Also found some info on DID's (Discharge Ionization Detector) not sure if it appies?
https://www.thermo.com/eThermo/CMA/PDFs/Product/productFile_1000001009226.pdf
This is a generic PDF and there is a lot more detail on the subject but since i'm not sure if it applies I dont want to send you on a goose chase.
Note the polarizer voltage coming in at the bottom.  Can that be used to create + or - Ions??
Can helium be Ionized with a much lower voltage and amps?

Loved watching your cap blow :)

Hi guys    I made an error on the size of My EPG tubing it's 1/4 inch not 3/8 sorry for any miss info :s
This caught My attention magnetic carbon nano particles
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Quote from haozoudao1988 on May 10th, 2012, 10:41 PM

I watched the full vid of the nutty proffeser. I've seen a few of that guys lectures. Got to admit some if it goes over my head. But I get the bits that matter. Yes I see the bit about reverseing the magnet. Makes sense.

I've got a little 4inch diameter plastic pipe loop filled with Ferro fluid, im gonna do some small scale tests with that before I splash out on a 500ml bottle.

Googled the history of ferrofluid, its been around since the 60's , so I think its perfectly plausible thant Stan had access to the stuff for a liquid epg. Maybe the pumps not neccessary to get the effect but it helps with cooling in some way by circlating the fluid and avoiding localized heating in the core.
I've already got a back up plan if i buy the big bottle of ferrofluid and this doesn't work, then what I'll do is tip the fluid into smaller bottles and re-sell it on eBay , to get most, if not all of my money back.

I've not had a chance to study the circuit that Russ traced out, but from the values of the components we should be able to work out the kind of frequency range this this operates at. See if its within the limits of soft iron . The number 5khz rings a bell but don't quote me on that.

Tryed it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIHFUo8S2oE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I don't think it's a go. Seems about 1" out and the magnetic flux is done... Just dose not travel far enugh with in the fluid.  

~Russ

Quote from Bwood5 on May 11th, 2012, 06:16 PM

Enjoyed all the great work you and your team here have done.  
Just saw this and it shows what you can do with the proper funding
http://www.princeton.edu/research/news/features/a/?id=7050

Also for those that don't know how a Spectrometer works you might want to take a class at MIT and waste 25 min. on youtube.
The math can get intense but hang in there.  He moves on to a basic cyclotron about 20 min in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8D3ikuyaGo

Russ
Is it possible to add 1 of your "coil cells" and a meter on the exaust port of your chamber as a detector?  
Seems like the next step is to determine/Improve the Ionization quality of what is moving through the chamber.
You may want to add shutoff valves to both sides to adjust the flow.

Also found some info on DID's (Discharge Ionization Detector) not sure if it appies?
https://www.thermo.com/eThermo/CMA/PDFs/Product/productFile_1000001009226.pdf
This is a generic PDF and there is a lot more detail on the subject but since i'm not sure if it applies I dont want to send you on a goose chase.
Note the polarizer voltage coming in at the bottom.  Can that be used to create + or - Ions??
Can helium be Ionized with a much lower voltage and amps?

Loved watching your cap blow :)

hummm, interesting idea.

so whats the Detector part of this unit???

i would say that there needs to be some kind of test for this but i'm having a hard time building / buying the equipment to do such a thing... lol

thanks for the ideas ~

~Russ