What are your sources guys?
I've read the book "The Universal Order of Creation of Matter" and I must say that I holded many hopes in it but I found it quite deluding.
It's quite a sort of romance about how pmtics interact, and my skeptical nature can't stop thinking that Star Trek give more in depth explanations on space ship travels with Dilithium reactors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilithium_(Star_Trek)

There are no tips on practical applications, not even for the coke bottle, and I found some ingenuity trying to explain some biological effects with pmtics interaction physic. He says that bacteria pmtics interact with human cells causing increasing in temperature in infections, that seems to me a big ignorance of how and why Fever is caused (I have a good biological/biochemical background) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fever , but that do not imply he is wrong in other fields, simply a bit of ingenuity trying to explain something out of his field of expertise.

Regarding the cola bottle experiment and the kt liquid, in the foundation forum there is nothing but users guesses.
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2763
Quite frustrating too, it should be a sort of proof of concept, and I did not even found a place where he describes step by step how to replicate it (what is fluid composition?)

Perhaps someone can help with some questions:
Why everybody is talking about KOH? Where can I find official papers that lead to that guess?
Using a CO2 rich liquid like the coke or gassed water is verified to facilitate the C formation on the nails? Or the nanomolecular C comes from the plastic of the bottle as well, as stated in the patents?
One of the patent says the cola bottle contains a source of electromagnetic waves and liquid hydrogen, I find it confusing...
Scintillation, I searched the book for this word with no occurrences, where is Keshe talking about it? Only in the patents?
The Chinese video is interesting, on what papers is based and from where does it come?

Can we put together a list of reference material, papers,docs,videos? I have:
Unifying theory:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMLUgyenJ0UHgyNmc
Patents:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMQjN3U1ZqekVxbTg
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMQklwdzMyNV9aRUU
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMUXVMaFJzVWdYMk0
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMVTF4Ti1LaVJpakk
CO2 Paper (not always available from foundation site, often u get a 500 error):
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMX3NvTU0yUlJ3VzA
And the 3 books, copyrighted I think so I will not post them.

By the way, the book is quite repetitive and, once understood the core concepts of pmtics interaction, lacks of any practical utility (in my opinion, but may be useful for others, I do not mean to be absolute).
Here in Italy there's a joke on politicians that they always forget the "paper of how", and from the book, some forum posts and some videos, I keep listening the same things about what we'll be able to do, but not how. So I hope I overlooked something, I missed some docs, some posts, some videos. Where are the papers of how? :)

PS: Perhaps a stupid question if you have already replicated the experiment, but can we exclude some sort of induction caused from a tesla coil out of camera in the experiment and a pulsating magnetic field inducting a sort of current in the copper nails, even to just start or catalyze the reaction of the CO2 forming the C sp2 sp3?

Perhaps the key to the solution is to first make some form of graphene coated wire, by standard ways.  Then use that graphene coated wire to convert CO2 into a liquid state.  Then the CO2 in liquid state is used as the solution to make more graphene coated wires the quick way.  Then use these to make more CO2 liquid.

So you need a starter solution first made the hard way.  Then you're on your way.
 I came to this conclusion because the pictures of the CO2 converter look like screens of graphene coated wire submerged in water.  

Quote from badilator on November 5th, 2012, 06:33 AM

What are your sources guys?
I've read the book "The Universal Order of Creation of Matter" and I must say that I holded many hopes in it but I found it quite deluding.
It's quite a sort of romance about how pmtics interact, and my skeptical nature can't stop thinking that Star Trek give more in depth explanations on space ship travels with Dilithium reactors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilithium_(Star_Trek)

There are no tips on practical applications, not even for the coke bottle, and I found some ingenuity trying to explain some biological effects with pmtics interaction physic. He says that bacteria pmtics interact with human cells causing increasing in temperature in infections, that seems to me a big ignorance of how and why Fever is caused (I have a good biological/biochemical background) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fever , but that do not imply he is wrong in other fields, simply a bit of ingenuity trying to explain something out of his field of expertise.

Regarding the cola bottle experiment and the kt liquid, in the foundation forum there is nothing but users guesses.
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2763
Quite frustrating too, it should be a sort of proof of concept, and I did not even found a place where he describes step by step how to replicate it (what is fluid composition?)

Perhaps someone can help with some questions:
Why everybody is talking about KOH? Where can I find official papers that lead to that guess?
Using a CO2 rich liquid like the coke or gassed water is verified to facilitate the C formation on the nails? Or the nanomolecular C comes from the plastic of the bottle as well, as stated in the patents?
One of the patent says the cola bottle contains a source of electromagnetic waves and liquid hydrogen, I find it confusing...
Scintillation, I searched the book for this word with no occurrences, where is Keshe talking about it? Only in the patents?
The Chinese video is interesting, on what papers is based and from where does it come?

Can we put together a list of reference material, papers,docs,videos? I have:
Unifying theory:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMLUgyenJ0UHgyNmc
Patents:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMQjN3U1ZqekVxbTg
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMQklwdzMyNV9aRUU
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMUXVMaFJzVWdYMk0
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMVTF4Ti1LaVJpakk
CO2 Paper (not always available from foundation site, often u get a 500 error):
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMX3NvTU0yUlJ3VzA
And the 3 books, copyrighted I think so I will not post them.

By the way, the book is quite repetitive and, once understood the core concepts of pmtics interaction, lacks of any practical utility (in my opinion, but may be useful for others, I do not mean to be absolute).
Here in Italy there's a joke on politicians that they always forget the "paper of how", and from the book, some forum posts and some videos, I keep listening the same things about what we'll be able to do, but not how. So I hope I overlooked something, I missed some docs, some posts, some videos. Where are the papers of how? :)

PS: Perhaps a stupid question if you have already replicated the experiment, but can we exclude some sort of induction caused from a tesla coil out of camera in the experiment and a pulsating magnetic field inducting a sort of current in the copper nails, even to just start or catalyze the reaction of the CO2 forming the C sp2 sp3?

I agree, to open source and replicate we need handson information. What's been provided is still not up to practical standards.

Its wasting time this way.

This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
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Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM

This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P

Really? Hahaha, thx for Geert's good connexions!!

But knowing Russ it is now open source!!! Jippie!

Lets think up some practical ways to prove and use this technology!!

Good news, wouww, and lets find people who can translate Keshe..hahahaha into more understandable teachings and practical directions!!

This calls for a little celebration!!

Now we really need to connect Russ up with that measurement software guy and his link to some universities.

Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM

This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P

Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:

Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM

Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM

This may be a news item in the future:
RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P

Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:

He is messing with you Jeff.  Keshe is only handing those out to government authorities, not folks like us.  There is a whole thread over at KF where people are begging Keshe to OpenSource his technology and he flatly refuses to do so because we would in effect blow ourselves up like tribal gangs.  The point was clearly made by a few forum posters that what Keshe is really doing is handing the technology to the criminal thugs known as government and that all the world will be greatly harmed using this tactic.  I personally disagree because I happen to believe most governments, especially ones with black budget projects, already have this technology and then some.

I don't know what angle Keshe is coming from, but I'm rather certain the group here on this forum could achieve some pretty great things if we are left alone to work together and make some of our experiments become reality.

Geert already has Keshe's three books and is probably willing to make them available to anyone that asks.  If you want to read them and build your own spaceship to Mars, be my guest.  Certainly nothing stopping you.  Myself, I'm not planning to live to be a 130 years old, so I'm doing my own thing for the time being.

Oh, and one other thing...  With the re-election/selection of Obama...   The coal fired power plant that serves my community is back on the table likely for closure during his next term in office.  Which means...   I need to get some power generation working pretty darn quick like.

Quote from Dog-One on November 10th, 2012, 06:43 PM

Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM

Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM

This may be a news item in the future:
RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P

Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:

He is messing with you Jeff.  Keshe is only handing those out to government authorities, not folks like us.  There is a whole thread over at KF where people are begging Keshe to OpenSource his technology and he flatly refuses to do so because we would in effect blow ourselves up like tribal gangs.  The point was clearly made by a few forum posters that what Keshe is really doing is handing the technology to the criminal thugs known as government and that all the world will be greatly harmed using this tactic.  I personally disagree because I happen to believe most governments, especially ones with black budget projects, already have this technology and then some.

I don't know what angle Keshe is coming from, but I'm rather certain the group here on this forum could achieve some pretty great things if we are left alone to work together and make some of our experiments become reality.

Geert already has Keshe's three books and is probably willing to make them available to anyone that asks.  If you want to read them and build your own spaceship to Mars, be my guest.  Certainly nothing stopping you.  Myself, I'm not planning to live to be a 130 years old, so I'm doing my own thing for the time being.

Oh, and one other thing...  With the re-election/selection of Obama...   The coal fired power plant that serves my community is back on the table likely for closure during his next term in office.  Which means...   I need to get some power generation working pretty darn quick like.

I agree with some of what you have said here dog-one, I don't want to explore the galaxy, but would like to travel the world. I think it's wishful thinking on Geert's part  and other's here, for this forum to have Keshe's tech. To, you are "very correct" we need some way to generate our own power. I do think this forum is the place to be to see this happen and think we, as a collective team, will achieve some great things with dedicated people like yourself and other's I see here. So please, keep up the hard fight, as I know you will, so that we can all have a better tomorrow. Thanks Dog-one.:cool::D:P

Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM

Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM

This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P

Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:

A joke and a bit of a dream.:D

Quote from Dog-One on November 10th, 2012, 06:43 PM

Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM

Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM

This may be a news item in the future:
RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P

Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:

He is messing with you Jeff.  Keshe is only handing those out to government authorities, not folks like us.  There is a whole thread over at KF where people are begging Keshe to OpenSource his technology and he flatly refuses to do so because we would in effect blow ourselves up like tribal gangs.  The point was clearly made by a few forum posters that what Keshe is really doing is handing the technology to the criminal thugs known as government and that all the world will be greatly harmed using this tactic.  I personally disagree because I happen to believe most governments, especially ones with black budget projects, already have this technology and then some.

I don't know what angle Keshe is coming from, but I'm rather certain the group here on this forum could achieve some pretty great things if we are left alone to work together and make some of our experiments become reality.

Geert already has Keshe's three books and is probably willing to make them available to anyone that asks.  If you want to read them and build your own spaceship to Mars, be my guest.  Certainly nothing stopping you.  Myself, I'm not planning to live to be a 130 years old, so I'm doing my own thing for the time being.

Oh, and one other thing...  With the re-election/selection of Obama...   The coal fired power plant that serves my community is back on the table likely for closure during his next term in office.  Which means...   I need to get some power generation working pretty darn quick like.

The handover post of the K-key is a joke of course but a simple soul may have a dream now and then.
Indeed, we must stand with both feet on the ground and act rational. I try every day to search for novelties of the technology on the Internet, i wait as each of us until more is available. Meanwhile I read the books but until now there came out not much news. sometimes I need to read the same paragraph three times to understand what it is about, it reads thus very slow. I am sure that we are not much wiser to provide a reactor build by reading the books.
I'm parsing the last patent (wo2008113392) and translate to have a quicker clear view on the construction of the reactor (the English text is even worse than mine). A part of this information can be used to create a picture of the various reactors and their purpose.
According to the patent, the latest generation of reactors have a static inner core where the centrifugal effect of the noble gases is obtained by a pump system, This is their way to avoid mechanical wear in the reactor so the reactor itself does not require maintenance.
I try to make a summary for publishing but please have some patience.
I see there is a lot of interest to read this thread but I feel like I'm the only one who takes the trouble to analyze and summarize  the many information, any help is always welcome.
Geert

Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 10:51 PM

Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM

Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM

This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P

Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:

A joke and a bit of a dream.:D

Quote from Dog-One on November 10th, 2012, 06:43 PM

Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM

Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM

This may be a news item in the future:
RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P

Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:

He is messing with you Jeff.  Keshe is only handing those out to government authorities, not folks like us.  There is a whole thread over at KF where people are begging Keshe to OpenSource his technology and he flatly refuses to do so because we would in effect blow ourselves up like tribal gangs.  The point was clearly made by a few forum posters that what Keshe is really doing is handing the technology to the criminal thugs known as government and that all the world will be greatly harmed using this tactic.  I personally disagree because I happen to believe most governments, especially ones with black budget projects, already have this technology and then some.

I don't know what angle Keshe is coming from, but I'm rather certain the group here on this forum could achieve some pretty great things if we are left alone to work together and make some of our experiments become reality.

Geert already has Keshe's three books and is probably willing to make them available to anyone that asks.  If you want to read them and build your own spaceship to Mars, be my guest.  Certainly nothing stopping you.  Myself, I'm not planning to live to be a 130 years old, so I'm doing my own thing for the time being.

Oh, and one other thing...  With the re-election/selection of Obama...   The coal fired power plant that serves my community is back on the table likely for closure during his next term in office.  Which means...   I need to get some power generation working pretty darn quick like.

The handover post of the K-key is a joke of course but a simple soul may have a dream now and then.
Indeed, we must stand with both feet on the ground and act rational. I try every day to search for novelties of the technology on the Internet, i wait as each of us until more is available. Meanwhile I read the books but until now there came out not much news. sometimes I need to read the same paragraph three times to understand what it is about, it reads thus very slow. I am sure that we are not much wiser to provide a reactor build by reading the books.
I'm parsing the last patent (wo2008113392) and translate to have a quicker clear view on the construction of the reactor (the English text is even worse than mine). A part of this information can be used to create a picture of the various reactors and their purpose.
According to the patent, the latest generation of reactors have a static inner core where the centrifugal effect of the noble gases is obtained by a pump system, This is their way to avoid mechanical wear in the reactor so the reactor itself does not require maintenance.
I try to make a summary for publishing but please have some patience.
I see there is a lot of interest to read this thread but I feel like I'm the only one who takes the trouble to analyze and summarize  the many information, any help is always welcome.
Geert

You're doing a great job Geert, mucho kudos for that.

I for one don't have the money or the time to check out any of Keshe's books, my
"scientific exploration", for the time being anyway, is concentrated around the
works of Meyer et al.

Oh, well played btw :D

Geert you are doing a wonderful job, but I to am in a similar situation as Lynx. Thanks for all your hard work, Jeff.:cool::D:P  

Quote from Lynx on November 11th, 2012, 01:38 AM

Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 10:51 PM

Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM

Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM

This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P

Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:

A joke and a bit of a dream.:D

Quote from Dog-One on November 10th, 2012, 06:43 PM

Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM

Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM

This may be a news item in the future:
RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P

Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:

He is messing with you Jeff.  Keshe is only handing those out to government authorities, not folks like us.  There is a whole thread over at KF where people are begging Keshe to OpenSource his technology and he flatly refuses to do so because we would in effect blow ourselves up like tribal gangs.  The point was clearly made by a few forum posters that what Keshe is really doing is handing the technology to the criminal thugs known as government and that all the world will be greatly harmed using this tactic.  I personally disagree because I happen to believe most governments, especially ones with black budget projects, already have this technology and then some.

I don't know what angle Keshe is coming from, but I'm rather certain the group here on this forum could achieve some pretty great things if we are left alone to work together and make some of our experiments become reality.

Geert already has Keshe's three books and is probably willing to make them available to anyone that asks.  If you want to read them and build your own spaceship to Mars, be my guest.  Certainly nothing stopping you.  Myself, I'm not planning to live to be a 130 years old, so I'm doing my own thing for the time being.

Oh, and one other thing...  With the re-election/selection of Obama...   The coal fired power plant that serves my community is back on the table likely for closure during his next term in office.  Which means...   I need to get some power generation working pretty darn quick like.

The handover post of the K-key is a joke of course but a simple soul may have a dream now and then.
Indeed, we must stand with both feet on the ground and act rational. I try every day to search for novelties of the technology on the Internet, i wait as each of us until more is available. Meanwhile I read the books but until now there came out not much news. sometimes I need to read the same paragraph three times to understand what it is about, it reads thus very slow. I am sure that we are not much wiser to provide a reactor build by reading the books.
I'm parsing the last patent (wo2008113392) and translate to have a quicker clear view on the construction of the reactor (the English text is even worse than mine). A part of this information can be used to create a picture of the various reactors and their purpose.
According to the patent, the latest generation of reactors have a static inner core where the centrifugal effect of the noble gases is obtained by a pump system, This is their way to avoid mechanical wear in the reactor so the reactor itself does not require maintenance.
I try to make a summary for publishing but please have some patience.
I see there is a lot of interest to read this thread but I feel like I'm the only one who takes the trouble to analyze and summarize  the many information, any help is always welcome.
Geert

You're doing a great job Geert, mucho kudos for that.

I for one don't have the money or the time to check out any of Keshe's books, my
"scientific exploration", for the time being anyway, is concentrated around the
works of Meyer et al.

Oh, well played btw :D

If you want the book, send me a personal message.

Grumbllll stomme belg...;)

Quote from geert8550 on November 11th, 2012, 06:20 AM

If you want the book, send me a personal message.

That is an extremely generous offer of you Geert, I may just
do that sometime in the future ;)

Quote from geert8550 on November 11th, 2012, 06:20 AM

If you want the book, send me a personal message.

You are a good person Geert and I commend your patience in being able to follow the Keshe trail.

I do not know what age you are or how you perceive the flow of time--it does tend to make a difference in what things appear practical and what things are more intertwined in a dream.  As you get older the difference becomes more apparent, at least it has for me.  I can get up early and work on a project and just about the time I begin to feel well underway, it is already past sunset and the day is nearly over.  This same feeling manifests itself in weeks and months as well.  It becomes a race to see whether a project will see a final destination or me.  When I was a child, I did not notice this phenomena.  I lived in a perpetual now.  Mortality isn't something you read about in a book, it just happens; when it does you find yourself and you change your way of thinking, your focus shifts.  You realize time is your biggest enemy.

I truly hope you will find the enlightenment needed to understand and build a working Keshe reactor.  I also hope I will be around to share that most splendid day with you.

Quote from Dog-One on November 11th, 2012, 11:15 AM

Quote from geert8550 on November 11th, 2012, 06:20 AM

If you want the book, send me a personal message.

You are a good person Geert and I commend your patience in being able to follow the Keshe trail.

I do not know what age you are or how you perceive the flow of time--it does tend to make a difference in what things appear practical and what things are more intertwined in a dream.  As you get older the difference becomes more apparent, at least it has for me.  I can get up early and work on a project and just about the time I begin to feel well underway, it is already past sunset and the day is nearly over.  This same feeling manifests itself in weeks and months as well.  It becomes a race to see whether a project will see a final destination or me.  When I was a child, I did not notice this phenomena.  I lived in a perpetual now.  Mortality isn't something you read about in a book, it just happens; when it does you find yourself and you change your way of thinking, your focus shifts.  You realize time is your biggest enemy.

I truly hope you will find the enlightenment needed to understand and build a working Keshe reactor.  I also hope I will be around to share that most splendid day with you.

Aaawww..i'll search the net to find antioxidants and other stuff to get your age up to over a hundred Dog. So you will get your harts delite full of this worlds wonders and after this earthly stage we'll find eachother again and have a toast and think back on our lives here and are glad to live in love and have concurred the duality that is inherent to living on earth.

peace broh

Quote from geert8550 on October 22nd, 2012, 04:50 AM

Found this movie with Chinese text, know someone translate these words?

Keshe能源機模擬動畫 (Keshe energy machine simulation animation)

/watch?v=cwR4Cx_01R0

Keshe energy machine simulation animation translation Chinese to English:
I try to embed the english text.
But the text is larger than animation.
Tranlation see remarks
/watch?v=o2pGMLxi8hg

Thanks for the translation Ron :cool:

Hello,
I am maybe wrong. I still can't understand idea behind of the coca-cola experiment. The only thing I can thing of is for covering wire with graphene for a power panels. But according to one of the interviews will need 50.000 - 70.000 layers of nano material. How many are on the wire? Here are some of my successful and fail experiments in short:
Simple pieces of wire bent on 90 degree ~1.5 in. and 2 L. coca cola bottle.
2 of the electrodes are with spiral shape - unfortunately no voltage or very low.
Primary I made liquid - distilled water - 59gr. (just over 2 oz.) and 3 gr. KOH.
In about an hour I got 7-9 mV to a different electrodes (I push 9 electrodes in the bottle, 4 in strait line on top, 2 on 90 degree counter clockwise and 1 clockwise. No electrode in the liquid. In 24 hours time - almost no graphene; After the first 24 hours I add 3% Hydrogen Peroxide 59gr. Voltage jump to 20 mV. In next 24 hours some graphene appear on the electrodes. In the next 24 hours I dip one of the electrodes in the liquid. Voltage drop to 7mV. In about 72 hours total voltage drop to almost 0, liquid still in the bottle.  

Fail:
55 gr coca cola; 55 gr dist. water; 3.5 gr KOH; 0.5l bottle, 1 bent, 3 strait electrodes 0.00V 3days
55 gr coca cola; 3.5 gr KOH; 0.5l bottle, 1 bent, 3 strait electrodes 0.00V, 3 days
Keep going with experiments...

For the plasma generator I have some questions and concerns. Any answers are highly appreciated.
1. Core spins. At the same time needs refill with hydrogen. That means hole and core should be in vacuum.
a. What kind of seal will work under spin and vacuum for 20-30 years? What kind of brushes will work for that period of time? What kind of bearings?
b. How much hydrogen you will need to power this unit? Hydrogen is difficult to store. Unless is made on demand trough electrolysis or some other way.

As reading the patents, there are at least 3 different kinds of reactors there. I read somewhere that core is stainless steel. Yes, but no... SS is quite successful shielding magnetic fields or at least dramatically dropping them down. I think starting the reactor is done by inserting radioactive rod inside. And sends me close to the idea of structure of 100 years old X-Rays with lamps.
Some other interesting reading - technology E-cat. Similar system, working with Ni and H and secret katalisator ...
 
Someone got somewhere with that replication?
Just my 2 cents...

Back again

I did some testing with the copper nails wiche were covered with graphene in the previous test. Here are my findings and fotos. the time indication is shown on the file names of the images. Also available on my  facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1

- 1 with graphene occupied copper nails
- 1 ordinary copper nail
- Room temperature: 13 ° c
- Liquid: tap water
- Test recording: 05h 09 min
- Voltage commencement: 60 mV
- After 1 min Voltage: 40 mV


- Voltage increases with effect from flash, on and off fluorescent light source gives affect the value.
- Voltage drops by to get closer with my hand, if take away my hand the voltage rises again.
- Problem: Voltage reacts whenever flash > + ~ 1mV> solution: shoot without flash> no effect of bombing photons (ionization?).
- Problem: Electrodes do not stay in place> solution: lid with electrodes
- Work with fixed light: fluorescent light source.

- Figure 01: initial test with artificial light (fluorescent light)
- Figure 02: after 30 min with artificial
- Figure 03: rise and fall> unstable?
- Figure 04: influence of magnetism human body (hand close)
- Figure 05: hand away.
- Figure 06: hand a little closer.
- Figure 07: Had light off, after 1h without artificial light.
- Figure 08: 8 min after turning on the fluorescent light source.
- Figure 09: Led light nearby.
- Figure 10: 10 min after power LED lamp.
- Figure 11: LED lamp closer.
- Figure 12: LED lamp off, results after 2 min.TL light stays on.
- Figure 13: After 1h with fluorescent light source> voltage stable at 28 mV.
- Figure 14: Influence of the values ​​clearly after flash.
- Figure 15: Closed transparent box with electrodes at a fixed distance.
- Figure 16: previous test with deeply submerged copper nail.
- Figure 17: next test> nail shallow submerged.
- Figure 18: less contact with copper nail> not changed value.
- Figure 19: less contact with graphene coating> impaired.
- Figure 20: Electrode with grafeenbekleding returned> value rises immediately.
- Figure 21: return value stabilized after 25 min
- Figure 22: Turning on LED Lamp> value rises immediately.
- Figure 23: off LED Lamp> value drops immediately.
- Figure 24: after 14min. remains stable value> 25.4 mV.

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Quote from geert8550 on December 9th, 2012, 05:43 AM

Back again

I did some testing with the copper nails wiche were covered with graphene in the previous test. Here are my findings and fotos. the time indication is shown on the file names of the images. Also available on my  facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1

- 1 with graphene occupied copper nails
- 1 ordinary copper nail
- Room temperature: 13 ° c
- Liquid: tap water
- Test recording: 05h 09 min
- Voltage commencement: 60 mV
- After 1 min Voltage: 40 mV


- Voltage increases with effect from flash, on and off fluorescent light source gives affect the value.
- Voltage drops by to get closer with my hand, if take away my hand the voltage rises again.
- Problem: Voltage reacts whenever flash > + ~ 1mV> solution: shoot without flash> no effect of bombing photons (ionization?).
- Problem: Electrodes do not stay in place> solution: lid with electrodes
- Work with fixed light: fluorescent light source.

- Figure 01: initial test with artificial light (fluorescent light)
- Figure 02: after 30 min with artificial
- Figure 03: rise and fall> unstable?
- Figure 04: influence of magnetism human body (hand close)
- Figure 05: hand away.
- Figure 06: hand a little closer.
- Figure 07: Had light off, after 1h without artificial light.
- Figure 08: 8 min after turning on the fluorescent light source.
- Figure 09: Led light nearby.
- Figure 10: 10 min after power LED lamp.
- Figure 11: LED lamp closer.
- Figure 12: LED lamp off, results after 2 min.TL light stays on.
- Figure 13: After 1h with fluorescent light source> voltage stable at 28 mV.
- Figure 14: Influence of the values ​​clearly after flash.
- Figure 15: Closed transparent box with electrodes at a fixed distance.
- Figure 16: previous test with deeply submerged copper nail.
- Figure 17: next test> nail shallow submerged.
- Figure 18: less contact with copper nail> not changed value.
- Figure 19: less contact with graphene coating> impaired.
- Figure 20: Electrode with grafeenbekleding returned> value rises immediately.
- Figure 21: return value stabilized after 25 min
- Figure 22: Turning on LED Lamp> value rises immediately.
- Figure 23: off LED Lamp> value drops immediately.
- Figure 24: after 14min. remains stable value> 25.4 mV.

This is cool Geert.:D

My test bottle has 8, #10 copper wires 5/8" long inside the bottle. Liquid is hydrogen peroxide with a pinch of sodium hydroxide. Bottle is in the upright position with the liquid at the bottom. Highest measured on any two wires 159MV in that position. Bottle has been laying around for 3 months now and measures about 50MV. If bottle is rolled and liquid gets on the wires volts jump up to 170MV on some wires. Dead shorting wires volts drop to zero and recover to their starting volts in a couple of seconds. I'm testing three bottles at the same time. One has 40 #10 wire 3/8" long, never got over 50MV, getting them wet from the liquid does not make higher volts??? The other bottle has 9 #10 wires over 4" long, never seemed to work at all or very low MV???
All the wires have a graphene coating on them, there has to be a relationship to the area of the inner surface of wire or plate to the wire to the outside. Too long didn't work, too short didn't work. If one could come up with the right size we will be on our way. Also the liquid will need to be redefined.  

Quote from pogtech2007 on December 23rd, 2012, 08:50 PM

My test bottle has 8, #10 copper wires 5/8" long inside the bottle. Liquid is hydrogen peroxide with a pinch of sodium hydroxide. Bottle is in the upright position with the liquid at the bottom. Highest measured on any two wires 159MV in that position. Bottle has been laying around for 3 months now and measures about 50MV. If bottle is rolled and liquid gets on the wires volts jump up to 170MV on some wires. Dead shorting wires volts drop to zero and recover to their starting volts in a couple of seconds. I'm testing three bottles at the same time. One has 40 #10 wire 3/8" long, never got over 50MV, getting them wet from the liquid does not make higher volts??? The other bottle has 9 #10 wires over 4" long, never seemed to work at all or very low MV???
All the wires have a graphene coating on them, there has to be a relationship to the area of the inner surface of wire or plate to the wire to the outside. Too long didn't work, too short didn't work. If one could come up with the right size we will be on our way. Also the liquid will need to be redefined.

Very cool,:cool::D:P thanks for posting your findings, please continue.

Quote from pogtech2007 on December 23rd, 2012, 08:50 PM

My test bottle has 8, #10 copper wires 5/8" long inside the bottle. Liquid is hydrogen peroxide with a pinch of sodium hydroxide. Bottle is in the upright position with the liquid at the bottom. Highest measured on any two wires 159MV in that position. Bottle has been laying around for 3 months now and measures about 50MV. If bottle is rolled and liquid gets on the wires volts jump up to 170MV on some wires. Dead shorting wires volts drop to zero and recover to their starting volts in a couple of seconds. I'm testing three bottles at the same time. One has 40 #10 wire 3/8" long, never got over 50MV, getting them wet from the liquid does not make higher volts??? The other bottle has 9 #10 wires over 4" long, never seemed to work at all or very low MV???
All the wires have a graphene coating on them, there has to be a relationship to the area of the inner surface of wire or plate to the wire to the outside. Too long didn't work, too short didn't work. If one could come up with the right size we will be on our way. Also the liquid will need to be redefined.

Ok, Pogtech2007, I'm glad there is someone else who experimented with this concept. In the text of the Keshe patent wo2008113392, page 28 line 13 to 40 is described next,
I quote;
Fig. 11 is a photo of a static plasma reactor, a cola bottle All which has three electrodes in the liquid and two in the upper layer (the plasma). The photo shows That between two copper electrodes a voltage is Measured. Next to the production of energy, Also atomic carbon (sp2 and sp3) is deposited on the electrodes and electrode parts All which in the plasma.

It is a pity that the pictures are unreadable. He tested with an electrode in the liquid, and one in the plasma. It is important that there is graphene is formed.
Only then you can continue. Have you also tried a bottle emptied? Is it stable after long time? Keshe also said that the liquid is non acidic and harmless.

To move on: Take a coated copper electrode and immerse them, only with the graphene, in ordinary tap water. Place it with an ordinary copper electrode and measure the values, they must not touch each other​​. See if the values ​​fall or rise with more or less light (photons). The more graphene surface the higher the values. Note that the graphene electrode is not too deep, the remaining copper may not be in the water.
Keep your experiments publishing, preferably with pictures so others can enjoy. thanks for your reply. Be careful with chemicals, take the necessary safety concerns.

Geert

Sorry for the late posts. I'm busy with my RepRap 3D printer and make another pair. What Keshe the reactor, I am a member of a newly started Nedeland speaking group where ideas are bundled but I promise to regularly report to a brief post on this forum.
Annex A preliminary draft of the rapid closure of the reactor.