Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #150, on May 31st, 2013, 04:07 AM »
Maybe this is a help to the people who want to carry out tests with a "dynamic plasma reactor" (Cola bottle reactor).
Excuse me for my poor English.

/watch?v=VDfrpku0P_E

spoocke

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #151, on May 31st, 2013, 03:36 PM »Last edited on May 31st, 2013, 03:56 PM by spoocke
just a fast draw out in solidworks.
http://imageshack.us/f/850/reactoranode.jpg/

i think i know what he means with getting into the plasma field.

if you create the plasma buble.
like you do in the plasma ball.
you just need to get two more components in.
one isolator.
and then a inox like rod wich will catch the ellektrons.
inside the plasma field.
do note that it needs a massa point wich you can regulate in distance toward the rod.
this would allow regulation of its output.
this catch rod is the middle one in the drawing.
then a ceramic isolator.
then the anode.
then again a ceramic isolator.
then you have the carige cage of the magnets holding also the cathodes.
if you do a mirror image of this system you will have a more powerfull extraction.
 
this is just a idea so please be kind with comments.
cheers :)

ps :btw geert am building a lil cnc mill.
if you need serten parts ill be able to make them soon.
even in titanium if needed.
 and am from belgium so .
also i have a awesome idea for a beter seal but for that ill need my 4th cnc axis.
to spoil it a bit.
i could cut a inox ring in the right dimmentions.
then friction turn it to make it a 100% seal fit.

greetings
groetjes

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #152, on May 31st, 2013, 10:40 PM »
Ok, I sent you a message. I would like to work together.
Quote from spoocke on May 31st, 2013, 03:36 PM
just a fast draw out in solidworks.
http://imageshack.us/f/850/reactoranode.jpg/

i think i know what he means with getting into the plasma field.

if you create the plasma buble.
like you do in the plasma ball.
you just need to get two more components in.
one isolator.
and then a inox like rod wich will catch the ellektrons.
inside the plasma field.
do note that it needs a massa point wich you can regulate in distance toward the rod.
this would allow regulation of its output.
this catch rod is the middle one in the drawing.
then a ceramic isolator.
then the anode.
then again a ceramic isolator.
then you have the carige cage of the magnets holding also the cathodes.
if you do a mirror image of this system you will have a more powerfull extraction.
 
this is just a idea so please be kind with comments.
cheers :)

ps :btw geert am building a lil cnc mill.
if you need serten parts ill be able to make them soon.
even in titanium if needed.
 and am from belgium so .
also i have a awesome idea for a beter seal but for that ill need my 4th cnc axis.
to spoil it a bit.
i could cut a inox ring in the right dimmentions.
then friction turn it to make it a 100% seal fit.

greetings
groetjes

spoocke

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #153, on June 1st, 2013, 05:35 AM »
Quote from geert8550 on May 31st, 2013, 10:40 PM
Ok, I sent you a message. I would like to work together.
Quote from spoocke on May 31st, 2013, 03:36 PM
just a fast draw out in solidworks.
http://imageshack.us/f/850/reactoranode.jpg/

i think i know what he means with getting into the plasma field.

if you create the plasma buble.
like you do in the plasma ball.
you just need to get two more components in.
one isolator.
and then a inox like rod wich will catch the ellektrons.
inside the plasma field.
do note that it needs a massa point wich you can regulate in distance toward the rod.
this would allow regulation of its output.
this catch rod is the middle one in the drawing.
then a ceramic isolator.
then the anode.
then again a ceramic isolator.
then you have the carige cage of the magnets holding also the cathodes.
if you do a mirror image of this system you will have a more powerfull extraction.
 
this is just a idea so please be kind with comments.
cheers :)

ps :btw geert am building a lil cnc mill.
if you need serten parts ill be able to make them soon.
even in titanium if needed.
 and am from belgium so .
also i have a awesome idea for a beter seal but for that ill need my 4th cnc axis.
to spoil it a bit.
i could cut a inox ring in the right dimmentions.
then friction turn it to make it a 100% seal fit.

greetings
groetjes
ill be happy to help were ever i can.
do note am compleetly new to htis.
but i have a basic understanding of what is going on.

now.
you always hear him talking about of getting in the plasma.
look inside your body.
and look at the cosmos how it works.

the energy comes from the out side into the the middle.
it creates energy in the center
and heat.

like in the stumach and like lungs wich he claims expel the carbon.
you also hear him say its the ellektron of the carbon nukelius wivh gets ionized.
look at the bottle experiment.
were does the carbon go to??
en becomes of the intense heat in the middle section the rod will burn it self cleane again.
thats the idea i have behind it.
if it makes any sence to you guys.

greetings

spoocke

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #154, on June 1st, 2013, 07:19 AM »Last edited on June 2nd, 2013, 12:02 PM by spoocke
a other design.


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do note that the open inox ( stainless steel ) ring gets its tention from a V block wich will pull it self into the open inox ring like a wig.
you could also make a closed ring and make tention with the outer sphere ring.
but from my point of view it could deform the sphere when the tention is not applied in a regular manner.
the v block system overcomes that issue.

greetings
Andrew

a other update.
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/6146/halfsphere2withinfo.jpg
site for perimstopts or in frence bourage


update http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/6146/halfsphere2withinfo.jpg

spoocke

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #155, on June 2nd, 2013, 01:07 PM »Last edited on June 2nd, 2013, 01:13 PM by spoocke






tomorrow ill look into a way to keep the vacum tube static.
and still have a vacum pulling force will it turning got a good idea how to do this already but it will become clear once i disign it in solidworks.
greetings


geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #157, on June 20th, 2013, 02:06 PM »
Hey
This is another quick update about the building of the Keshe plasma reactor.

The polies and DC motor are mounted. This is just an outer core (single core) without central kolom.Met this concept is working to open a plasma. The core is already quite balanced but still needs to be updated a little. I have not been able to measure the speed but I think between 2500 and 3000 r / min. The core is placed under vacuum with ordinary air, so no added noble gases. This is an ordinary test to check the safety of the system.
enjoy
Geert


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2nOchEEgo&feature=youtu.be

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #158, on July 7th, 2013, 06:12 AM »
Quote from geert8550 on June 20th, 2013, 02:06 PM
Hey
This is another quick update about the building of the Keshe plasma reactor.

The polies and DC motor are mounted. This is just an outer core (single core) without central kolom.Met this concept is working to open a plasma. The core is already quite balanced but still needs to be updated a little. I have not been able to measure the speed but I think between 2500 and 3000 r / min. The core is placed under vacuum with ordinary air, so no added noble gases. This is an ordinary test to check the safety of the system.
enjoy
Geert


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2nOchEEgo&feature=youtu.be
I like it Geert, it's an awesome build you have. Have you been able to advance any further? Another question I have is about "Graphene", I've posted some information about it here,
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=1281
Is this the same graphene produced by the coke bottle experiment? Thanks and keep up the good work, Jeff.:cool::D:P



FaradayEZ

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #161, on July 27th, 2013, 02:22 PM »Last edited on July 27th, 2013, 02:29 PM by FaradayEZ
Quote from geert8550 on July 17th, 2013, 09:28 AM
Last video update about the feedthrough problem of a spinning vacuum chamber.
Enjoy
Geert
Hi Geert, nice produkt your making, looking good.

In this video it seems to hold the vacuum. As i think of the properties of the turning valve, i hope that it doesn't warm up. Maybe (because its outside the chamber) you can lube it also a bit on the inside, or let it spin along with the chamber ones you reached vacuum. And if you need more vacuum, rotate a bit less, pump out and let it loose again? This to save stress on the turning valve.

But if these valve's hold up for the job, you could use a second one for the innerchamber?

(Even if they are build for 1200 rpm...if you couple two or more, you (could in theory) devide the rpms... 3 spinning at 1200 in line with each other is as one spinning with 3600 rpm..:-)




Antigraviticsystems1

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #165, on September 25th, 2013, 05:30 PM »
apparently the coil is shorted on itself ... therefore not be used as a transformer secondary .... I understand that the recorded energy is of the order of microamps..

The big question .. electrical plasma is created inside the sphere???  

used lorentz forces sometime plasma to rotate internally???


sorry for the bad translation online: Huh:


geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #166, on September 30th, 2013, 02:43 AM »
Hi antigraviticsystems1
the coil is only to detect a flux or a magnetic field. the project is still unfinished and not working, there are still problems to maintain trough between the feed pipe and the casing while spinning a high vacuum. This is the difficulty with which everyone has to face.

Antigraviticsystems1

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #167, on October 14th, 2013, 11:56 AM »
Geert estimated! ... why not try entering the metal sphere into a vacuum bell??? when there is an insurmountable obstacle you have to think of other ways, Greetings


Matt Watts

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #169, on December 1st, 2013, 08:32 PM »
Quote from geert8550 on December 1st, 2013, 09:26 AM
System almost ready, test run.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gTBxzQlRRw
That sure is some precision work there Geert.

You mentioned the signals on the scope where an indication of a plasma within the reactor sphere.  Do the frequencies correspond with a particular type of plasma?  And are the steps you took to achieve those signals repeatable?

FaradayEZ

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #170, on December 2nd, 2013, 01:24 PM »
Hi Geert,

It is looking very nice and all, but i wonder how these rotating gases are supposed to be making a plasma. Is there some electric field also inside?

Can you elaborate a bit more on the theoretic side of this? Under what conditions is what supposed to be happening?

As i understand it now, you are rotating gases and also are maintaining a vacuum somewhere.

Thx for any more info

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #171, on December 5th, 2013, 04:19 AM »
Quote from FaradayEZ on December 2nd, 2013, 01:24 PM
Hi Geert,

It is looking very nice and all, but i wonder how these rotating gases are supposed to be making a plasma. Is there some electric field also inside?

Can you elaborate a bit more on the theoretic side of this? Under what conditions is what supposed to be happening?

As i understand it now, you are rotating gases and also are maintaining a vacuum somewhere.

Thx for any more info
Hi guys
Here some explanation of what I'm trying to do.
It's just a rotary vacuum chamber where some types of gas are present in very small quantity. There is no electrical supply is present inside, only the gases. The gases have layers and they do as they spin in a vacuum environment (they react as a liquid). the ratio of different gases must now be tested. at some point certain layers begin to exchange electrones which give responses in the form of magnetic fields.  When this lasts long enough in a particular circumstance, then open up a plasma (such Keshe calls it).
The coil around the sphere only serves as a detector of magnetic fields and not to drain Voltage as many suspect.
This is only the beginning and the concept still needs to be further developed.
Thus, the main purpose of these tests is the opening of a plasma, for the time being nothing else.
Best regards
Geert

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #172, on December 5th, 2013, 03:00 PM »
Quote from geert8550 on December 5th, 2013, 04:19 AM
Quote from FaradayEZ on December 2nd, 2013, 01:24 PM
Hi Geert,

It is looking very nice and all, but i wonder how these rotating gases are supposed to be making a plasma. Is there some electric field also inside?

Can you elaborate a bit more on the theoretic side of this? Under what conditions is what supposed to be happening?

As i understand it now, you are rotating gases and also are maintaining a vacuum somewhere.

Thx for any more info
Hi guys
Here some explanation of what I'm trying to do.
It's just a rotary vacuum chamber where some types of gas are present in very small quantity. There is no electrical supply is present inside, only the gases. The gases have layers and they do as they spin in a vacuum environment (they react as a liquid). the ratio of different gases must now be tested. at some point certain layers begin to exchange electrones which give responses in the form of magnetic fields.  When this lasts long enough in a particular circumstance, then open up a plasma (such Keshe calls it).
The coil around the sphere only serves as a detector of magnetic fields and not to drain Voltage as many suspect.
This is only the beginning and the concept still needs to be further developed.
Thus, the main purpose of these tests is the opening of a plasma, for the time being nothing else.
Best regards
Geert
Thanks Geert for sharing this information, hope all is well and you succeed in further testing, Jeff.:cool::D:P

FaradayEZ

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #173, on December 6th, 2013, 12:09 PM »
Quote from geert8550 on December 5th, 2013, 04:19 AM
Quote from FaradayEZ on December 2nd, 2013, 01:24 PM
Hi Geert,

It is looking very nice and all, but i wonder how these rotating gases are supposed to be making a plasma. Is there some electric field also inside?

Can you elaborate a bit more on the theoretic side of this? Under what conditions is what supposed to be happening?

As i understand it now, you are rotating gases and also are maintaining a vacuum somewhere.

Thx for any more info
Hi guys
Here some explanation of what I'm trying to do.
It's just a rotary vacuum chamber where some types of gas are present in very small quantity. There is no electrical supply is present inside, only the gases. The gases have layers and they do as they spin in a vacuum environment (they react as a liquid). the ratio of different gases must now be tested. at some point certain layers begin to exchange electrones which give responses in the form of magnetic fields.  When this lasts long enough in a particular circumstance, then open up a plasma (such Keshe calls it).
The coil around the sphere only serves as a detector of magnetic fields and not to drain Voltage as many suspect.
This is only the beginning and the concept still needs to be further developed.
Thus, the main purpose of these tests is the opening of a plasma, for the time being nothing else.
Best regards
Geert
Thx Geert,

This makes it easier to follow your work and to think along with it.
For example, is there a measure for the vacuum set by Keshe? And is there an amount of gases set? And is there a speed rpm set at which the separation of the gases evolves?
I guess you have to calculate the total volume amount of the inside. And calculate how much volume or mol(es) of one gas you need to put in? The difference in gravity of the gases and the rpm's  may have a relation. And the volume that a gas will have at those rpm's may change. To then calculate how much of each is needed to let them just interact or have some space in between is difficult to say the least. These theoretical problems say to me that you may need a mathematical model, or a simulation program that could calculate the right setup.

Or what are your thoughts in getting to the right setup?




geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #174, on December 7th, 2013, 07:38 AM »Last edited on December 7th, 2013, 07:39 AM by geert8550
FaradayEZ Thanks for the reply. It is indeed a search for the correct proportions, but we are already busy with it. Soon I can fully test various combinations of our study. hopefully we can soon show how we open a plasma for the first time to the world by open source and that the theory of Kesche is reality. I also want to prove that less educated people also are capable of doing great things.
Well here is my latest video report.

/watch?v=sdZgx1qRvL4