Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed

Una

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #50, on October 16th, 2012, 11:43 PM »
Quote from geert8550 on October 16th, 2012, 12:16 PM
I did some tests with the Kesche coke reactor.
Again with sodium hydroxide and cola:
- Photo 1: sodium hydroxide solution with 5 cl Cola previous test after 2 days no better result (07.47h)
- Photo 2: Open bottle remains at the same value (07.50h)
- Photo 3; bottle emptied, value remains stable (08.01h)
- Photo 4: After 20 min value remains stable (08.21h)

The following tests were carried out with a mixture of demineralised water and 10% KOH, the flask rinsed with tap water and immediately refilled with the KOH solution at 08.30h. Same bottle was used with the same electrodes without cleaning.
picture 5: 10% KOH with dedemineraliseerd water.
picture 6: ± 15 cl after 16h (00.01h) 7,2 mV
picture 7: after 24.5 h (08.31h) 10.5 mV.

When opening the bottle, the value drops to 11 mV, and then to gradually lower. Back closing the bottle increases the value back to 8.2 mV.

I got the tip to use distilled water, which I will do in the next experiments. I think the coke and liquid nothing matters but the water is essential. in previous experiments, there was no gas in the liquid (CO2 as in cola).
I am not a chemist and would like to appeal to your suggestions.

Geert
Hi Geert, I'm hot chemisist, but just engineer of telecommunications, but what I think (sorry for my english, I hope you will understand me).
Before buy anything, you have to think...
What is doing Keshe? The principle..
What I think:
He do not use the chemical principle. He say that use the magnetic field...Than I think that all this things are funcioning becasue:
- the basics materials of the Cola generator inside are elements that can be ionized
- the gas of the Cola (when the bottle is closed well) is doing some vacuum (needed to make the electromagnetic connection between the elements in the ionized liquid more less, and so to create environment and circumstances to an step ionization - when the the connections are breacking and creating new one, releasing energy). Also the gas maybe is used to help to the process of ionization
- the litle acid of the Cola make the liquid conductive and this helps for the electrodes also

Hope that helps you a litle
Una

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #51, on October 17th, 2012, 07:11 AM »
Quote from Una on October 16th, 2012, 11:43 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 16th, 2012, 12:16 PM
I did some tests with the Kesche coke reactor.
Again with sodium hydroxide and cola:
- Photo 1: sodium hydroxide solution with 5 cl Cola previous test after 2 days no better result (07.47h)
- Photo 2: Open bottle remains at the same value (07.50h)
- Photo 3; bottle emptied, value remains stable (08.01h)
- Photo 4: After 20 min value remains stable (08.21h)

The following tests were carried out with a mixture of demineralised water and 10% KOH, the flask rinsed with tap water and immediately refilled with the KOH solution at 08.30h. Same bottle was used with the same electrodes without cleaning.
picture 5: 10% KOH with dedemineraliseerd water.
picture 6: ± 15 cl after 16h (00.01h) 7,2 mV
picture 7: after 24.5 h (08.31h) 10.5 mV.

When opening the bottle, the value drops to 11 mV, and then to gradually lower. Back closing the bottle increases the value back to 8.2 mV.

I got the tip to use distilled water, which I will do in the next experiments. I think the coke and liquid nothing matters but the water is essential. in previous experiments, there was no gas in the liquid (CO2 as in cola).
I am not a chemist and would like to appeal to your suggestions.

Geert
Hi Geert, I'm hot chemisist, but just engineer of telecommunications, but what I think (sorry for my english, I hope you will understand me).
Before buy anything, you have to think...
What is doing Keshe? The principle..
What I think:
He do not use the chemical principle. He say that use the magnetic field...Than I think that all this things are funcioning becasue:
- the basics materials of the Cola generator inside are elements that can be ionized
- the gas of the Cola (when the bottle is closed well) is doing some vacuum (needed to make the electromagnetic connection between the elements in the ionized liquid more less, and so to create environment and circumstances to an step ionization - when the the connections are breacking and creating new one, releasing energy). Also the gas maybe is used to help to the process of ionization
- the litle acid of the Cola make the liquid conductive and this helps for the electrodes also

Hope that helps you a litle
Una
Sounds like a good theory Una, are you building the generator?

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #52, on October 17th, 2012, 09:06 AM »Last edited on October 17th, 2012, 09:07 AM by geert8550
Quote from Una on October 16th, 2012, 11:43 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 16th, 2012, 12:16 PM
I did some tests with the Kesche coke reactor.
Again with sodium hydroxide and cola:
- Photo 1: sodium hydroxide solution with 5 cl Cola previous test after 2 days no better result (07.47h)
- Photo 2: Open bottle remains at the same value (07.50h)
- Photo 3; bottle emptied, value remains stable (08.01h)
- Photo 4: After 20 min value remains stable (08.21h)

The following tests were carried out with a mixture of demineralised water and 10% KOH, the flask rinsed with tap water and immediately refilled with the KOH solution at 08.30h. Same bottle was used with the same electrodes without cleaning.
picture 5: 10% KOH with dedemineraliseerd water.
picture 6: ± 15 cl after 16h (00.01h) 7,2 mV
picture 7: after 24.5 h (08.31h) 10.5 mV.

When opening the bottle, the value drops to 11 mV, and then to gradually lower. Back closing the bottle increases the value back to 8.2 mV.

I got the tip to use distilled water, which I will do in the next experiments. I think the coke and liquid nothing matters but the water is essential. in previous experiments, there was no gas in the liquid (CO2 as in cola).
I am not a chemist and would like to appeal to your suggestions.

Geert
Hi Geert, I'm hot chemisist, but just engineer of telecommunications, but what I think (sorry for my english, I hope you will understand me).
Before buy anything, you have to think...
What is doing Keshe? The principle..
What I think:
He do not use the chemical principle. He say that use the magnetic field...Than I think that all this things are funcioning becasue:
- the basics materials of the Cola generator inside are elements that can be ionized
- the gas of the Cola (when the bottle is closed well) is doing some vacuum (needed to make the electromagnetic connection between the elements in the ionized liquid more less, and so to create environment and circumstances to an step ionization - when the the connections are breacking and creating new one, releasing energy). Also the gas maybe is used to help to the process of ionization
- the litle acid of the Cola make the liquid conductive and this helps for the electrodes also

Hope that helps you a litle
Una
Hello una
Thank you for the feedback.
Keshe also said that the acid in the cola was of no importance.

It is difficult to translate and understand the texts, sometimes I need eight times reread to summarize what is actually meant.

I understand that by the formed magnetic fields (plasma) the copper molecules vibrate and thus electrical energy is created. The magnetic fields are released through absorption and conversion of the captured CO2 to formic acid.
:dodgy::s

Una

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #53, on October 17th, 2012, 12:32 PM »
Quote from geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Hello una
Thank you for the feedback.
Keshe also said that the acid in the cola was of no importance.

It is difficult to translate and understand the texts, sometimes I need eight times reread to summarize what is actually meant.

I understand that by the formed magnetic fields (plasma) the copper molecules vibrate and thus electrical energy is created. The magnetic fields are released through absorption and conversion of the captured CO2 to formic acid.
:dodgy::s
Actualy, what I have explained is more my understanding about the generator.(he has explained it more clear). The experiment with the coca cola bottle is not very clear, becasue Keshe dont say what contains Kt liquid... And you are right, he uses the CO2 from the coca cola (or from the environment) capture the CO2 and due to the Plasmatic Magnetic Energy carbon is collected on the electrodes like a nano material. The electrodes is not necessary submerged in the liquid. He say also that every body can prove the experiment with their proper electrodes and multimeter.. and the coca cola liquid.. than the secret is the Kt liquid..
Maybe to start the process he uses some radioactive isotopes and maybe also some magnetic particles in the Kt liquid...
The generator is more clear explained (in the part of the used materials). MF1 is the magnetic field created from permanent magnets, MF2 is the magnetic field creating from the dinamyc magnetic fields inside the self rotating core (with the red line) in wich are putted the permanent magnets (with the radial oriented poles).  This core is supported by some bearings and can rotate. Around and outside the core there are coils, where the current can be induced from the dinamyc rotating magnetic fields in the core. The elements inside the core will be grupped due to the rotation (centrofugial force) and the most lighter will be in the center of the core, and the most hevier on the  edge of the core. There are radioactive material for starting the process, because the H need more energy to ionization and separation of a electron. He and Ar are for make the ionization an continued process (step ionization). The ultraviolet light also may help the process of ionization. And in this soup of ionized nucleos, electrons and the  mishmash of magnetic plazma fields, vacuumed in the core, will start reactions of separating and recombinating of nucleos, electrons wich release energy. Its nedeed only start the proces from outside energy and then its establish and countinued itself.. It is my understanding. There are many cuestion of course... But we all are learning...
 

PS: Jeff, unfortunatelly I dont have yet the generator builded.. But maybe soon.. ;)

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #54, on October 17th, 2012, 02:29 PM »
So much experimentation to do, soooo little time and money. I wonder what radioactive material Keshe used. Want to build this generator but it's going to have to wait a while.

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #55, on October 17th, 2012, 10:36 PM »Last edited on October 17th, 2012, 11:20 PM by geert8550
Quote from Una on October 17th, 2012, 12:32 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Hello una
Thank you for the feedback.
Keshe also said that the acid in the cola was of no importance.

It is difficult to translate and understand the texts, sometimes I need eight times reread to summarize what is actually meant.

I understand that by the formed magnetic fields (plasma) the copper molecules vibrate and thus electrical energy is created. The magnetic fields are released through absorption and conversion of the captured CO2 to formic acid.
:dodgy::s
Actualy, what I have explained is more my understanding about the generator.(he has explained it more clear). The experiment with the coca cola bottle is not very clear, becasue Keshe dont say what contains Kt liquid... And you are right, he uses the CO2 from the coca cola (or from the environment) capture the CO2 and due to the Plasmatic Magnetic Energy carbon is collected on the electrodes like a nano material. The electrodes is not necessary submerged in the liquid. He say also that every body can prove the experiment with their proper electrodes and multimeter.. and the coca cola liquid.. than the secret is the Kt liquid..
Maybe to start the process he uses some radioactive isotopes and maybe also some magnetic particles in the Kt liquid...
The generator is more clear explained (in the part of the used materials). MF1 is the magnetic field created from permanent magnets, MF2 is the magnetic field creating from the dinamyc magnetic fields inside the self rotating core (with the red line) in wich are putted the permanent magnets (with the radial oriented poles).  This core is supported by some bearings and can rotate. Around and outside the core there are coils, where the current can be induced from the dinamyc rotating magnetic fields in the core. The elements inside the core will be grupped due to the rotation (centrofugial force) and the most lighter will be in the center of the core, and the most hevier on the  edge of the core. There are radioactive material for starting the process, because the H need more energy to ionization and separation of a electron. He and Ar are for make the ionization an continued process (step ionization). The ultraviolet light also may help the process of ionization. And in this soup of ionized nucleos, electrons and the  mishmash of magnetic plazma fields, vacuumed in the core, will start reactions of separating and recombinating of nucleos, electrons wich release energy. Its nedeed only start the proces from outside energy and then its establish and countinued itself.. It is my understanding. There are many cuestion of course... But we all are learning...
 

PS: Jeff, unfortunatelly I dont have yet the generator builded.. But maybe soon.. ;)
When I've been to the event on June 15, 2012, it was asked from the audience or permanent magnets were used and his answer was clearly no.
In the first post of this toppic I sent a picture of a 3D model based on the description in the patents. It is clear to me now that the inner core (caroline core) not made of glass (I forgot what kind of metal). The viewing window in the outer core (housing) is likely to check if the process starts (spinning of the inner core), that viewing window on the  first models were with glued selicone, so I think the radon gas is not in a vacuum state but atmospheric pressure. Between the two cores (with the radon gas) are no other coils present, the cores scintillation occurs outside the generator (it gives light). The central column is for entering the liquid gases while the centrifugal process is in progress. As well as to the electro-magnets to be mounted, and fixed the electrodes to take  the electrical energy. The coils on the column are need to start the process (Creating the first magnetic fields).
The central column can be moved (up and down) for fine tuning. The polarity of the coils can be arbitrarily reversed or modified. I think there's a kind of mainboard (circuit) attached to it. I think on the prototype2 on de image there are brass rings to see with corbon brushes.
What do you think of this?
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Una

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #56, on October 17th, 2012, 11:28 PM »
Quote from geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 10:36 PM
When I've been to the event on June 15, 2012, it was asked from the audience or permanent magnets were used and his answer was clearly no.
Geert, thank's for the information.
Where he said that did not use solid magnets? In the coca cola experiment or in te generator? because in the picture and the explanation about the generator there are solid magnets (the litle blu/red rectangles beyond the core).
Thank you so much for your information, and hope that you can tell more. Every litle thing can be important.
Una

PS. Jeff, I dont know what kind of radioctive material use Keshe for the generator, but in the picture, there are sign for radioctive element (the litle black/yellow circle in the core)

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #57, on October 18th, 2012, 02:01 AM »Last edited on October 18th, 2012, 02:07 AM by Una
Quote from geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 10:36 PM
When I've been to the event on June 15, 2012, it was asked from the audience or permanent magnets were used and his answer was clearly no.

In the first post of this toppic I sent a picture of a 3D model based on the description in the patents. It is clear to me now that the inner core (caroline core) not made of glass (I forgot what kind of metal). The viewing window in the outer core (housing) is likely to check if the process starts (spinning of the inner core), that viewing window on the  first models were with glued selicone, so I think the radon gas is not in a vacuum state but atmospheric pressure. Between the two cores (with the radon gas) are no other coils present, the cores scintillation occurs outside the generator (it gives light). The central column is for entering the liquid gases while the centrifugal process is in progress. As well as to the electro-magnets to be mounted, and fixed the electrodes to take  the electrical energy. The coils on the column are need to start the process (Creating the first magnetic fields).
The central column can be moved (up and down) for fine tuning. The polarity of the coils can be arbitrarily reversed or modified. I think there's a kind of mainboard (circuit) attached to it. I think on the prototype2 on de image there are brass rings to see with corbon brushes.
What do you think of this?
Geert,
maybe the sentral core are made by an material that is solid magnet... I just suppose... The brass rings and the carbon brush are like an dinamo maybe - to transform the rotation in energy (current), and you are right - the coils are for the start the process (creating an initial dinamic magnetic field) , than the core (maybe made from solid magnet metal, or there are some putting on it, radial positioned, like in the picture) start rotating and the rotation and all the materials inside start an dinamyc process of decay and fusion, releasing energy, (now we have a dinamic magnetic field - MF2 from inside). And make the core (whit the solid magnets) rotate itself, the brass rings and the brush convert the rotation in current (the principle of the dinamo).
Maybe is more simple to do the smallest variant (with cylinders) like in this picture:

what do you think?


geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #58, on October 18th, 2012, 04:19 AM »Last edited on October 18th, 2012, 04:30 AM by geert8550
Quote from Una on October 18th, 2012, 02:01 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 10:36 PM
When I've been to the event on June 15, 2012, it was asked from the audience or permanent magnets were used and his answer was clearly no.

In the first post of this toppic I sent a picture of a 3D model based on the description in the patents. It is clear to me now that the inner core (caroline core) not made of glass (I forgot what kind of metal). The viewing window in the outer core (housing) is likely to check if the process starts (spinning of the inner core), that viewing window on the  first models were with glued selicone, so I think the radon gas is not in a vacuum state but atmospheric pressure. Between the two cores (with the radon gas) are no other coils present, the cores scintillation occurs outside the generator (it gives light). The central column is for entering the liquid gases while the centrifugal process is in progress. As well as to the electro-magnets to be mounted, and fixed the electrodes to take  the electrical energy. The coils on the column are need to start the process (Creating the first magnetic fields).
The central column can be moved (up and down) for fine tuning. The polarity of the coils can be arbitrarily reversed or modified. I think there's a kind of mainboard (circuit) attached to it. I think on the prototype2 on de image there are brass rings to see with corbon brushes.
What do you think of this?
Geert,
maybe the sentral core are made by an material that is solid magnet... I just suppose... The brass rings and the carbon brush are like an dinamo maybe - to transform the rotation in energy (current), and you are right - the coils are for the start the process (creating an initial dinamic magnetic field) , than the core (maybe made from solid magnet metal, or there are some putting on it, radial positioned, like in the picture) start rotating and the rotation and all the materials inside start an dinamyc process of decay and fusion, releasing energy, (now we have a dinamic magnetic field - MF2 from inside). And make the core (whit the solid magnets) rotate itself, the brass rings and the brush convert the rotation in current (the principle of the dinamo).
Maybe is more simple to do the smallest variant (with cylinders) like in this picture:

what do you think?
The image that you set is the same as the Coke bottle there are no magnets in only electrodes in plasma but without liquid. The other is the basic principle of operation of the final generator. I must say that this schedule is not correct more this is one of the very beginning, now there are already other versions of the generator (see previous pictures).
In the large version of the rotating core is absolutely no permanent magnets used because it is not under control. The electromagnets can be arranged in whatever you want depending on what you want to join (antigraviteit, electrical power, water or air for healing, or metaangas CO2 capture, oxygen making, ...)

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RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #59, on October 22nd, 2012, 04:50 AM »
Found this movie with Chinese text, know someone translate these words?

Keshe能源機模擬動畫 (Keshe energy machine simulation animation)

/watch?v=cwR4Cx_01R0

firepinto

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #60, on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM »
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #61, on October 22nd, 2012, 09:00 AM »Last edited on October 22nd, 2012, 09:08 AM by geert8550
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
About the presence of radon in the generator (outer core) you're right, but I think the Chinese might know more than we do because the Chinese government recognizes this technology, and also want to cooperate.

I recently saw a documentary on National Geographic about advanced technology in ancient civilizations, namely Egypt. One wonders whether the many granite blocks into pyramids in one way or another could be a source of energy. In Greece also found stone jars with acids which were probably batteries, these are a few thousand years old.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_11.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_hitech02a.htm

~Russ

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #62, on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM »
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #63, on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM »Last edited on October 23rd, 2012, 04:33 AM by geert8550
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks

~Russ

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #64, on October 23rd, 2012, 04:44 AM »
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks
i updated Firefox and all the function buttons are messed up... downgrade... for now that's our only potion.  what browser are you using?

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #65, on October 23rd, 2012, 08:14 AM »Last edited on October 23rd, 2012, 08:16 AM by geert8550
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:44 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks
i updated Firefox and all the function buttons are messed up... downgrade... for now that's our only potion.  what browser are you using?
I use the latest Firefox 16.0.1
is the forum platform of Joomla or Drupal?

firepinto

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #66, on October 23rd, 2012, 09:19 AM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
Apparently granite can contain radio active materials like thorium and other metals.  I have seen granite counter tops in my travels through hotels that have had large chunks of iron in them.  Makes you want to have a gieger counter keychain or something...

Nate

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #67, on October 23rd, 2012, 11:36 AM »
Quote from firepinto on October 23rd, 2012, 09:19 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
Apparently granite can contain radio active materials like thorium and other metals.  I have seen granite counter tops in my travels through hotels that have had large chunks of iron in them.  Makes you want to have a geiger counter key chain or something...

Nate
Quote of http://www.verbouwtips.nl/keuken/granieten-aanrechtblad/ in Dutch, sorry > google translate if interested.

Granite naturally contains a small amount (10 to 20 parts per million) radioactive uranium. Upon expiry of this uranium, small amounts of radiation. It is however to such small quantities that it only becomes a problem if your home is located on granite. One of the decay products of uranium is radioactive noble gas radon. This radioactive gas is in smoke after the largest cause of lung cancer. In the case of a standard kitchen sheet of a few centimetres thick, the amounts, however, so small, that the risk is zero. Ensure the security or for the ventilation of your kitchen is adequate, so the radon gas can not accumulate. For more information see the file radon gas from the Ministry of Environment.

Geert

~Russ

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #68, on October 23rd, 2012, 10:54 PM »
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 08:14 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:44 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks
i updated Firefox and all the function buttons are messed up... downgrade... for now that's our only potion.  what browser are you using?
I use the latest Firefox 16.0.1
is the forum platform of Joomla or Drupal?
forum is MyBB

yes downgrade back to 15 or something and it should be fine... we will need to find out why it did that...  then we can upgrade...

sorry for the inconvenience

~Russ

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #69, on October 23rd, 2012, 11:03 PM »Last edited on October 23rd, 2012, 11:37 PM by geert8550
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 10:54 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 08:14 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:44 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks
i updated Firefox and all the function buttons are messed up... downgrade... for now that's our only potion.  what browser are you using?
I use the latest Firefox 16.0.1
is the forum platform of Joomla or Drupal?
forum is MyBB

yes downgrade back to 15 or something and it should be fine... we will need to find out why it did that...  then we can upgrade...

sorry for the inconvenience

~Russ
Thanks Russ, gonna try it.


Radon is indeed present in the outer core of the reactor Keshe, since radon is abundant in the earth's crust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S8vr27plZs

Russ, I just tried Youtube video above to load but the tool did not work, but then I put the code manually.

This hyperlink is entered with the editor tool:
[undefined=undefined]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon[/undefined]

This one manually entered
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon

Russ may I take the liberty to ask when you sleep. For me it is now 8.30 AM, your last replay is for me 07.57 AM. I think that we are in Belgium 7h ahead, that makes your replay was posted at 12:30 PM your time. You are incredibly passionate.:D:angel:
PS: I also have that problem. Sleep well.

~Russ

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #70, on October 23rd, 2012, 11:57 PM »
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 11:03 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 10:54 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 08:14 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:44 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks
i updated Firefox and all the function buttons are messed up... downgrade... for now that's our only potion.  what browser are you using?
I use the latest Firefox 16.0.1
is the forum platform of Joomla or Drupal?
forum is MyBB

yes downgrade back to 15 or something and it should be fine... we will need to find out why it did that...  then we can upgrade...

sorry for the inconvenience

~Russ
Thanks Russ, gonna try it.


Radon is indeed present in the outer core of the reactor Keshe, since radon is abundant in the earth's crust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S8vr27plZs

Russ, I just tried Youtube video above to load but the tool did not work, but then I put the code manually.

This hyperlink is entered with the editor tool:
[undefined=undefined]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon[/undefined]

This one manually entered
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon

Russ may I take the liberty to ask when you sleep. For me it is now 8.30 AM, your last replay is for me 07.57 AM. I think that we are in Belgium 7h ahead, that makes your replay was posted at 12:30 PM your time. You are incredibly passionate.:D:angel:
PS: I also have that problem. Sleep well.
:)

i don't...

lol

i downgraded to firefox 12 and its all good... but i think up to 15 was good. don't know what happen but im looking in to it...

1:48 AM here

will go to bed some where around 9-10 AM and get up some where around 3-5pm ( if i'm lucky)  some days i get more sleep some days i don't get Anny...

lately i have been trying to " take some time off" lol what ever that is... but my brain just wont stop going...

blessings!! ~Russ

Una

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #71, on October 24th, 2012, 06:23 AM »
Hi Geert,
sorry I was very busy lately...
How is your experiment with the coca cola botle?
I just wonder did you read this:
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2763
There are very well explained what is the kt liquid and some successfull experiments

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #72, on October 24th, 2012, 06:24 AM »
What the KT-liquid concerns that Keshe used, in my opinion this is radon containing lime (milky color) with water. The radon is released into the bottle after a while as an ionizing gas (gamma radiation). This is an electromagnetic radiation (slightly radioactive) which reacts to the copper molecules and thus developed electrical voltage.
Keshe told that it may take up to a month to make the liquid, this can come by the radon. It might take some time to gather enough concentrate.

Geert

othelzer

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #73, on October 27th, 2012, 04:39 PM »

mechanic/gasturbine tech/welder/millwright/electricity and electronics

two points (A and B)
three observations #1,#2,#3

A.) External and internal  magnetic fluxuations have no effect upon electrical output of a unipolar generator (faraday motor/generator).
point#1 how could a centrifical field of gasious inert mass have interaction with a rotating magnetic field as a magnetic in situ , rotating has no effect to output?

B.) If what we have is a unipolar in a copper null.
point #2 would a homopolar/unipolar/faraday motor have a observable effect in a copper null field
point #3 my experence with lubrication oil centifical purifiers that push 7gpm@10,000 rpm tells me that the mass ejected can be construed as a electrolyte stripped of its electrons used to make work. would it then (is the point)be an exotic form of battery?

PHS(post haste script) the configuration resembles the unitron motor that is the motive force of the "normal "homegrown saucer design with a vacued inner torus that is spun - the rudimentry uderstanding of the opritive principal of this design is that the vacume is replete with zero point pool liquid and its centrafugle application dosent block but channels gravity exchange of aether exchange within our sphere (earth) causing ,lighter than air operation.
could this there for be a less efficent unitron with electro stripping capabilities?
thanks for the forum 1st time poster
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Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #74, on October 27th, 2012, 07:00 PM »
Quote from othelzer on October 27th, 2012, 04:39 PM

mechanic/gasturbine tech/welder/millwright/electricity and electronics

two points (A and B)
three observations #1,#2,#3

A.) External and internal  magnetic fluxuations have no effect upon electrical output of a unipolar generator (faraday motor/generator).
point#1 how could a centrifical field of gasious inert mass have interaction with a rotating magnetic field as a magnetic in situ , rotating has no effect to output?

B.) If what we have is a unipolar in a copper null.
point #2 would a homopolar/unipolar/faraday motor have a observable effect in a copper null field
point #3 my experence with lubrication oil centifical purifiers that push 7gpm@10,000 rpm tells me that the mass ejected can be construed as a electrolyte stripped of its electrons used to make work. would it then (is the point)be an exotic form of battery?

PHS(post haste script) the configuration resembles the unitron motor that is the motive force of the "normal "homegrown saucer design with a vacued inner torus that is spun - the rudimentry uderstanding of the opritive principal of this design is that the vacume is replete with zero point pool liquid and its centrafugle application dosent block but channels gravity exchange of aether exchange within our sphere (earth) causing ,lighter than air operation.
could this there for be a less efficent unitron with electro stripping capabilities?
thanks for the forum 1st time poster
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Hi othelzer, Interesting hypothesis. :D Could you please though elaborate further on these topics with references. Also on the introduction part of the forum could you tell us a little about yourself and background, thank you so much, Jeff. :cool::D:P