Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.

danielgpalacios

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #25, on February 23rd, 2012, 12:29 PM »
Gracias Russ
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Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 20th, 2011, 02:49 PM
hello everyone!

I'm starting this thread as we will be replicating Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity.

I'm sketching this up in Google sketchup for now but will be drawn up in CAD so any one can run the drawings down to the machine shop and have them made. or if your Nate of Jeff just go print one out... lol

the Google sketch is really to give people a visual as to how this cell was built. the snapshots are in clear so you can see the inner workings. the original plastic is delrin. and that is what we will be making it from.

here are some snap shots so far. i will upload the SCH file once its further complete. then you can get a real 3D view for free by using Google sketchup! yeah!  

Thanks for the support!  

all comments or questions are welcome!

~Russ

here are the original files if you'd like to give it a go for your self!

http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Stan%27s%20WFC%2011/stan%27s%20WFC%2011.zip

HHO4Life

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #26, on February 25th, 2012, 06:40 PM »
Hey Russ and everybody I hope things are going great for all of you! Here is some information I got from some of Stan's patents regarding the pipe sizes he used in his resonant cavity. These pipes will give you the exact spacing Stan Provides in his patent. Hope this helps.

Here is some stainless steel tubing with the exact dimensions listed in his international patent # WO 89/12704 page 7.

Stainless T-304/304L

Seamless Tube

0.75" x 0.065" x 0.62"

Stainless T-304/304L

Seamless Tube

0.5" x 0.065" x 0.37"

http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?id=312&step=...
RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #27, on February 25th, 2012, 06:44 PM »
Hey Russ and everybody I hope things are going great for all of you! Here is some information I got from some of Stan's patents regarding the pipe sizes he used in his resonant cavity. These pipes will give you the exact spacing Stan Provides in his patent. Hope this helps.

Here is some stainless steel tubing with the exact dimensions listed in his international patent # WO 89/12704 page 7.

Stainless T-304/304L

Seamless Tube

0.75" x 0.065" x 0.62"

Stainless T-304/304L

Seamless Tube

0.5" x 0.065" x 0.37"

http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?id=312&step=...
RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #28, on February 25th, 2012, 06:44 PM »
Hey Russ and everybody I hope things are going great for all of you! Here is some information I got from some of Stan's patents regarding the pipe sizes he used in his resonant cavity. These pipes will give you the exact spacing Stan Provides in his patent. Hope this helps.

Here is some stainless steel tubing with the exact dimensions listed in his international patent # WO 89/12704 page 7.

Stainless T-304/304L

Seamless Tube

0.75" x 0.065" x 0.62"

Stainless T-304/304L

Seamless Tube

0.5" x 0.065" x 0.37"

http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?id=312&step=...

sebosfato

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #29, on March 5th, 2012, 06:12 AM »
If i was you, i would simply use resin. you will spend 20x less money and have 10x less work to get it done. You simply make a mould with plastifyed paper and use vaseline. If you wish you can even put some solid charge on the resin to add strength and reduce costs. If think well within few hours you get it ready to work.


Delrin is too expensive and totally not needed. You need a machinist...

wfchobby

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #30, on April 3rd, 2012, 01:12 AM »Last edited on April 3rd, 2012, 01:14 AM by wfchobby
I am curious about grades of stainless steel used in cells. in googling " Stan Meyer Stainless Steel" , Ive seen 304 mentioned, and that apparrently SM said that stainless steel ( 410 not 403 ) was the only metal that could be used as oxides formed with all others.
Some seem to use 316.  316Lappears commonly used as its readily available.

So in considering the measured capacitance ofa cell......Does anyone know if the grade of S/S have an effect?

So has anyone conclusively worked out if, for example, 410 is better to use than 316L?
ie is there any characteristic of the S/S that might affect whether a cell works well or not?

chris

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #31, on April 3rd, 2012, 06:27 PM »
Okay I finally uploaded most of the drawings to Russ for his final approval.  I have a couple of details to do on one more piece then at least we have set of dimensions to work with.  

Russ how are the single cell units coming along?

I found some SS threaded rod we could use for the terminals.

Thanks
Chris

Jeff Nading

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #32, on April 3rd, 2012, 08:34 PM »
Quote from wfchobby on April 3rd, 2012, 01:12 AM
I am curious about grades of stainless steel used in cells. in googling " Stan Meyer Stainless Steel" , Ive seen 304 mentioned, and that apparrently SM said that stainless steel ( 410 not 403 ) was the only metal that could be used as oxides formed with all others.
Some seem to use 316.  316Lappears commonly used as its readily available.

So in considering the measured capacitance ofa cell......Does anyone know if the grade of S/S have an effect?

So has anyone conclusively worked out if, for example, 410 is better to use than 316L?
ie is there any characteristic of the S/S that might affect whether a cell works well or not?
Good questions, the only way to know for sure is to test both kinds of stainless, I used 316L and it develops and coats the inside tube with a white film @ 1/2 an amp, any higher the film starts to flake off, so I think this might be a good thing.


~Russ

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #33, on April 4th, 2012, 03:31 AM »
Quote from chris on April 3rd, 2012, 06:27 PM
Okay I finally uploaded most of the drawings to Russ for his final approval.  I have a couple of details to do on one more piece then at least we have set of dimensions to work with.  

Russ how are the single cell units coming along?

I found some SS threaded rod we could use for the terminals.

Thanks
Chris
waiting on the parts to be maid... looks like it could be about the time the cores come in... ill keep you posted!

also im looking over the drawings!! most excellent  work!  

i think we should wait for the final set of drawings to post. as we want all parts to be there!

love it!

thank you! talk soon!

~Russ

securesupplies

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #34, on April 13th, 2012, 07:44 AM »
Quote from chris on December 26th, 2011, 12:41 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 23rd, 2011, 02:03 AM
making progress...

again this sketch will be posted once i see its done. got a lot to do still... :)

again the colors and translucent are just for nice viewing only...

enjoy! ~Russ
Russ I am having a problem converting those png files.  Do you have the actual sketchup files?  I noticed there's a way to convert sketchup files to solidworks files and wanted to try it then I can use mastercam x6 to see if I can make tool paths for the parts eventually.  I am learning a lot from just trying it.  :cool:

Chris
jpg attached  for those to use or need them in that format
RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #35, on April 21st, 2012, 01:51 PM »Last edited on April 23rd, 2012, 01:56 AM by securesupplies
Russ Captures

attached

Dan
RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #36, on April 23rd, 2012, 01:59 AM »

Looking good,

We have spec and tech drawing of ss steel inner and outer cell
parts  russ has got his machined already do we have

spec , measurement for top cap and or bases  hole diameter
 in base for core to fit in.

Drawing are good but need measurement on . and post

so more builder can approach faster.

Dan

~Russ

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #37, on April 24th, 2012, 03:18 AM »
Quote from securesupplies on April 23rd, 2012, 01:59 AM
Looking good,

We have spec and tech drawing of ss steel inner and outer cell
parts  russ has got his machined already do we have

spec , measurement for top cap and or bases  hole diameter
 in base for core to fit in.

Drawing are good but need measurement on . and post

so more builder can approach faster.

Dan
working on the complete system... almost done. Chris is drawing it. its 99.9% done... then we will post it!

rheandros

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #38, on April 24th, 2012, 02:08 PM »
Hello all,
i don't know if it is the right place to post this, please put it there where it should be.
in HHO Gas i get it is important the gas gets away from plates, i don't know if this is important because inoisation is important, but with a coanda flow(or bernoulli), the gas should sucked a bit out. This should increase a bit effizienz, or much i dont know.

Thanks you all for youre great work.

cu ben

~Russ

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #39, on April 24th, 2012, 11:37 PM »
Quote from rheandros on April 24th, 2012, 02:08 PM
Hello all,
i don't know if it is the right place to post this, please put it there where it should be.
in HHO Gas i get it is important the gas gets away from plates, i don't know if this is important because inoisation is important, but with a coanda flow(or bernoulli), the gas should sucked a bit out. This should increase a bit effizienz, or much i dont know.

Thanks you all for youre great work.

cu ben
in my research, i found that if the water is pumped through the cell the bubbles remove from the plate and the process is more efficient. now.. as far as stans way of doing it the bubbles dont form on the plates but in the middle of the plates...

but, as you can see the water in stans cell was indeed pumped through the cell.  

thanks! ~Russ

securesupplies

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #40, on April 25th, 2012, 10:54 AM »

Great  to hear, like the post,

can't wait to see drawings very cool development.

Ray Don

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #41, on May 3rd, 2012, 07:14 PM »
Quote from securesupplies on April 21st, 2012, 01:51 PM
Russ Captures

attached

Dan
nice little cell there
little 2 banger
where did the 2 banger cell come from?

~Russ

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #42, on May 17th, 2012, 11:14 PM »Last edited on May 17th, 2012, 11:16 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
well... i and others have spent countless hours on trying to find the electrical connections on this unit.looked high and low and everywhere between! and i finaly figured it out...

spent hrs looking at the photos only to find out these were off the shelf parts... hahaha...  KISS!!!!  i love it!

Im not telling you just yet what these are... going to make a video... (not done yet)

check it out! we are replicating right??? lol well... hows this! :

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i was stoked when i found out what these were... could not believe it... hahaha

Blessings to all !
~Russ

Webmug

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #43, on May 18th, 2012, 02:31 AM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on May 17th, 2012, 11:14 PM
well... i and others have spent countless hours on trying to find the electrical connections on this unit.looked high and low and everywhere between! and i finaly figured it out...

spent hrs looking at the photos only to find out these were off the shelf parts... hahaha...  KISS!!!!  i love it!

Im not telling you just yet what these are... going to make a video... (not done yet)

check it out! we are replicating right??? lol well... hows this! :






i was stoked when i found out what these were... could not believe it... hahaha

Blessings to all !
~Russ
Fantastic find!!!!
This is great, looking for them for over a year too!
:cool::D

Br,
Webmug

~Russ

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #44, on May 18th, 2012, 03:36 AM »Last edited on May 18th, 2012, 03:40 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from Webmug on May 18th, 2012, 02:31 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on May 17th, 2012, 11:14 PM
well... i and others have spent countless hours on trying to find the electrical connections on this unit.looked high and low and everywhere between! and i finaly figured it out...

spent hrs looking at the photos only to find out these were off the shelf parts... hahaha...  KISS!!!!  i love it!

Im not telling you just yet what these are... going to make a video... (not done yet)

check it out! we are replicating right??? lol well... hows this! :






i was stoked when i found out what these were... could not believe it... hahaha

Blessings to all !
~Russ
Fantastic find!!!!
This is great, looking for them for over a year too!
:cool::D

Br,
Webmug
sad thing is to buy all the parts theses will cost you about 2-8 USD per piece when complete... so your looking at 40-160 USD for the set of 20... 10 cells...

i bought some stuff on line for much cheeper than locally... so one part is around 1.10 usd and i got them off line for .11 usd... huge difference! i'm sitting at about  2usd per piece but with all the extra or min order stuff I'm at about 80$ for all the parts with shipping... egh!

then i had to drill and make each one... hahah time time... you be surprised what these are... ill give you a hint. there are 5 pieces of off the shelf parts in each connecter! :) crazy!

i would randomly look for these like every 2-3 weeks lol... then i have some friends go on a mission to find them! came back with a bunch of online links and stuff but just no where could one find them...   now i know why... :) HINT... There home made...

i will post the list of the parts when i'm done! :)

Blessings! ~Russ

firepinto

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #45, on May 18th, 2012, 03:47 AM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on May 17th, 2012, 11:14 PM
well... i and others have spent countless hours on trying to find the electrical connections on this unit.looked high and low and everywhere between! and i finaly figured it out...

spent hrs looking at the photos only to find out these were off the shelf parts... hahaha...  KISS!!!!  i love it!

Im not telling you just yet what these are... going to make a video... (not done yet)

check it out! we are replicating right??? lol well... hows this! :






i was stoked when i found out what these were... could not believe it... hahaha

Blessings to all !
~Russ
Awesome!  Genuuuiiinnneee Stan Meyer components!  lol I wonder how long Stan searched for all these cool parts to use. :cool:

Nate

~Russ

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #46, on May 18th, 2012, 03:56 AM »
Quote from firepinto on May 18th, 2012, 03:47 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on May 17th, 2012, 11:14 PM
well... i and others have spent countless hours on trying to find the electrical connections on this unit.looked high and low and everywhere between! and i finaly figured it out...

spent hrs looking at the photos only to find out these were off the shelf parts... hahaha...  KISS!!!!  i love it!

Im not telling you just yet what these are... going to make a video... (not done yet)

check it out! we are replicating right??? lol well... hows this! :






i was stoked when i found out what these were... could not believe it... hahaha

Blessings to all !
~Russ
Awesome!  Genuuuiiinnneee Stan Meyer components!  lol I wonder how long Stan searched for all these cool parts to use. :cool:

Nate
haha he didn't... lol he just built them! lol see my other post. i think you were typing when i posted... ~Russ

andy

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #47, on May 18th, 2012, 05:34 AM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on May 18th, 2012, 03:56 AM
Quote from firepinto on May 18th, 2012, 03:47 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on May 17th, 2012, 11:14 PM
well... i and others have spent countless hours on trying to find the electrical connections on this unit.looked high and low and everywhere between! and i finaly figured it out...

spent hrs looking at the photos only to find out these were off the shelf parts... hahaha...  KISS!!!!  i love it!

Im not telling you just yet what these are... going to make a video... (not done yet)

check it out! we are replicating right??? lol well... hows this! :






i was stoked when i found out what these were... could not believe it... hahaha

Blessings to all !
~Russ
Awesome!  Genuuuiiinnneee Stan Meyer components!  lol I wonder how long Stan searched for all these cool parts to use. :cool:

Nate
haha he didn't... lol he just built them! lol see my other post. i think you were typing when i posted... ~Russ
Hi
Maybe Stan home made it using diodes from alternator?
andy

Jeff Nading

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #48, on May 18th, 2012, 06:17 AM »
Quote from andy on May 18th, 2012, 05:34 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on May 18th, 2012, 03:56 AM
Quote from firepinto on May 18th, 2012, 03:47 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on May 17th, 2012, 11:14 PM
well... i and others have spent countless hours on trying to find the electrical connections on this unit.looked high and low and everywhere between! and i finaly figured it out...

spent hrs looking at the photos only to find out these were off the shelf parts... hahaha...  KISS!!!!  i love it!

Im not telling you just yet what these are... going to make a video... (not done yet)

check it out! we are replicating right??? lol well... hows this! :






i was stoked when i found out what these were... could not believe it... hahaha

Blessings to all !
~Russ
Awesome!  Genuuuiiinnneee Stan Meyer components!  lol I wonder how long Stan searched for all these cool parts to use. :cool:

Nate
haha he didn't... lol he just built them! lol see my other post. i think you were typing when i posted... ~Russ
Hi
Maybe Stan home made it using diodes from alternator?
andy
That's exactly what they look like to me, diodes:D.

Sharky

RE: Stan's Original 11 cell Resonant cavity Sketch and Build.
« Reply #49, on May 18th, 2012, 07:57 AM »
I see a light bulb fitting and the spring of a pen?