Cold Electricity how to

securesupplies

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #125, on February 28th, 2014, 01:26 AM »


Hi This Circuit Seams to be Amazing and Works just fine,

I am not builder of it I am just a Messenger





Gunther Rattay

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #126, on February 28th, 2014, 01:49 AM »Last edited on February 28th, 2014, 02:06 AM
Quote from securesupplies on February 28th, 2014, 01:26 AM
Hi This Circuit Seams to be Amazing and Works just fine,

I am not builder of it I am just a Messenger

ok, I see that circuit does something.
IMO it´s a mixture of all kind of serious technical approaches we have seen here:

Meyer > pulse + gating
Boyce > AC overlaying DC
Puharich > amplitude modulation of triangle over DC

but what does that circuit focus on?

there is no precise process control. what effect is he focussing on?

the high frequency oscillation "ringing" effect steven meyer points to is a resonance oscillation effect not an arbitrary designed signal.

if you want that you can use a cheap arbitrary wave generator, program whatever shape you want, put it into an amplifier and you are ready to go.

the electronics should excite the system to create oscillations and avalanche effects on its own.

this one does not seem to do so.

btw. at 0.52 min the statement that gate sequence at a stan meyer vic primary is on potential is absolutely wrong and will kill your mosfets and transistors. the same to the statements about voltage limitations of a transformer.


Breakzeitgeist

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #128, on March 1st, 2014, 09:05 AM »
look at all the you tube vids all very informative. I am not expert but a lot of you are. I am trying to give and show you all everything I have found That I think is important and need your help all of you to nail down well anything. Our futures depend on us figuring this all out so no stone left upturned, lets do it and test it and document it and as fast as we can. I am getting my 3d printer going now so I can make my bobbins and inserts for epg.....just please look it over and if you build or figure something out please tell me so I can get it or get to it. we all got to work together and im just showing what i think is looking right, need your help to know for sure or see what I can not...thank you Brother all of you for everything. God Speed

Matt Watts

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #129, on March 5th, 2014, 07:31 PM »
More info worth browsing through.

Breakzeitgeist


freethisone

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #131, on March 7th, 2014, 06:47 PM »Last edited on March 7th, 2014, 07:13 PM by Matt Watts
ha ha
 he said arc reator. i never saw this movie before. although this picture in the movie above is exactly what my epg replica looked like when i first went over this very material Russ presented n epg, in one of my first posts on epg i designed a system that used the priciples of standing waves, wave guieds, and phot cell.

the benzine ring becomes part of this lattice i surmized.
see it here, http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=58.0
you may have seen my design but it is missing in action. if you tell me how to upload a picture i will, thanks.

Matt Watts

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #132, on March 7th, 2014, 07:15 PM »
Quote from freethisone on March 7th, 2014, 06:47 PM
if you tell me how to upload a picture i will, thanks.
Just use the full editor and add an attachment; if it's an image it will be visible and downloadable.
Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #133, on March 7th, 2014, 10:54 PM »
I say we try this one guys:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2F-AYYE50o#

It should work and we should be able to learn a ton about cold electricity, scalar waves or whatever the stuff really is.

freethisone

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #134, on March 23rd, 2014, 02:47 PM »Last edited on March 23rd, 2014, 02:50 PM
so did u figure  it out yet?


in so many ways cheers Tesla.. he used the gaps as resisters, very low..


ok

its a hair pin.


Matt Watts

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #135, on March 23rd, 2014, 05:37 PM »
Quote from freethisone on March 23rd, 2014, 02:47 PM
so did u figure  it out yet?
No, because I just found out from someone who made a successful replication of this device that you will badly radiate yourself.  I have been down that road already and don't care to try it again.

freethisone

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #136, on March 23rd, 2014, 05:53 PM »
Quote from freethisone on March 23rd, 2014, 02:47 PM
so did u figure  it out yet?


in so many ways cheers Tesla.. he used the gaps as resisters, very low..


ok

its a hair pin.
matt the point is if you are afraid of it, i ask if you understand it..

i show the real reason it works the way it does this can be advanced when you understand this is a closed  loop with a open surface. that the gaps are superconducting inductors all by them sell and so on.

Matt Watts

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #137, on March 23rd, 2014, 06:00 PM »
Quote from freethisone on March 23rd, 2014, 05:53 PM
matt the point is if you are afraid of it, i ask if you understand it..
What I can conclude from my limited research is that the experiment somehow modifies the internal structure of the ferrite core, causing it to release excess energy.  I hardly understand the quantum mechanics of what is really happening at that level.  But...  I'm now working on a much smaller, more simple device that may open the door to a better understanding.  Wish me luck.

freethisone

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #138, on March 26th, 2014, 01:55 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT6MTNNIBMk#ws

so no, the added energy is said to come from the dilectric, or the caps not ferrite.

to understand it you need to see the current in the loop, it is not the same or zero value. its chacing the tourqu
Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #139, on March 26th, 2014, 02:05 AM »
in the circuit there is a emf, that makes a current in the loop. there are two sides one uses fat low resistance. the other side a high .

if i make a field magnet, and move that magnet, there will be angular momentum in a motor. that caused by rotation, and energizing coils. in this case we simply use a changing magnetic field to cause a current in the wire..


16 :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhpTU2kN5Ew#
Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #140, on March 27th, 2014, 12:45 PM »Last edited on March 27th, 2014, 12:47 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCBhD8wQtsQ#

here, an closed loop, and open surface.  this can be advanced with telsa hairpin. use of gaps, and transformers.

Breakzeitgeist

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #141, on March 28th, 2014, 12:27 AM »
I came across this-  http://home.earthlink.net/~drestinblack/generator.htm  and it got me thinking. I think his investigative journalism is dead on. So here is what I want to collaborate on. Tesla did not have neodymium magnets or graphene. We can make graphene sheet easily now, and neodymium magnets are fairly cheap. Using these materials and Tesla's geometries I think we can expect a very high energy output. Let me know what you think.

Matt Watts

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #142, on March 28th, 2014, 01:19 AM »Last edited on March 28th, 2014, 01:21 AM
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In the Faraday unipolar generator "the current," as Tesla noted, "set up will therefore not wholly pass through the external circuit ... and ... by far the greater portion of the current generated will not appear externally..."(7) By having the magnet completely cover the disk, Tesla made use of the whole disk surface in current generation instead of only a small section directly adjacent to the bar magnet, as happened in the Faraday device. This not only increases the amount of current generated, but, by making the current travel from the center to the outside edge, makes all of that current accessible to the external circuit.

More importantly, these modifications on the Faraday design eliminated one of the biggest problems in any physical system - the reaction to every action. It is this reaction that works to cancel out whatever effort goes into causing the original action. In an electrical system if there are two turns of wire wound next to each other and a current is sent through the wire, the current passing through the first loop will set up a magnetic field that will work against the current passing through the second loop.

The spiral divisions in the disk cause the current to travel the full radius of the disk or, as in his alternative version of the generator, to make a full trip around the outside edge of the disk. Because the current is flowing in a large circle at the rim of the disk, the magnetic field created by the current not only does not work against the field magnet above the circular plate, as in conventional generators, but it actually reinforces the magnet. So as the disk cuts the magnetic lines to produce a current, the current coming off of the disk strengthens the magnet, allowing it to produce even more current.
These are two things I didn't do with my N-Machine design, but should have.  Maybe then I would have seen some interesting results.

Breakzeitgeist

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #144, on March 28th, 2014, 01:58 AM »
check out circuit in video.....TRY IT

Lynx

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #145, on March 28th, 2014, 04:33 AM »
Quote from Breakzeitgeist on March 28th, 2014, 01:58 AM
check out circuit in video.....TRY IT
Care to share said schematics?
Thanks.

freethisone


thx1138v2

Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #147, on March 28th, 2014, 07:49 PM »Last edited on March 31st, 2014, 07:11 AM
Quote from Farrah Day on January 22nd, 2014, 09:49 AM
I see, so in Tesla's drawings those are just normal capacitors, not WFCs of any kind. And Tesla never actually dabbled in any kind of electrolysis then, someone has simply swapped out Tesla's real capacitors for two conducting plates submerged in water! :s


No. Tesla dabbled in WFC's too and those are cells.


Then I've certainly not seen that patent... anyone got a link to it?
Just starting this thread but thought I might have some insight on this particular topic. Very few people catch it but it was stated in one of Tesla's transmission patents that he intended to transmit between balloons maintained at 30,000 feet. I his day that would have been accomplished with hydrogen. So maybe that is what you are thinking of. I don't remember seeing a patent for this device but it is described on page 47 of his Colorado Springs Notes compiled by Aleksandar Marincic published by BN Publishing

www.BNPublishing.com
Colorado Springs Notes 1899 - 1900
Page 47
June 26, 1899
In following up an old idea of separarting gaseous mixtures by the application to them of excessively high electomotive force, the following apparatus is to be adopted with a new oscillator.

Three tubes t1 t2 t3 (assuming only three will be needed) are slipped one into the other, being held apart by insulating plugs a b c. In these plugs are fastened outlet tubes A B C to lead the several separated gases away to reservoirs into which they may be compressed.

There is more description and a drawing but the intention was to separate hydrogen from air by high voltage electrical means. It is not explicitly stated that this is to maintain the elevation of the balloons but that is probably the intented use for the hydrogen.

So no, this wasn't water cells but it is sort of related.

What's more interesting is his July 4, 1899 notes where he tracked lightning from storms across the high plains of Colorado by detecting their electrical output with one of his devices. I think this is when he determined he could transmit through the crust of the planet and didn't have to use the balloons. As far as I know he never tried the balloon method which is just as well because it probably would have failed. The altitudes he was talking about were in the jet stream which was unknown at the time. But the idea was sound at the time because there were no airplanes, the jet stream was unknown, and the cold temperatures (-40) and reduced air pressure at that altitude would both be beneficial to conduction.

One other thing you will find interesting about the Colorado Springs Notes: he measured capacitance in "bottles", like the wine bottles shown in the earlier posts but I don't remember if they were wine bottles or Champagne bottles. You can see them sitting in tubs in some of the pictures.  They are just Leyden jars, the original capacitor or "condenser" as it was also called. So jars, bottles, condensers, and capacitors are all the same thing.

Added: An interestin demonstration showing that the charge of a Leyden jar is stored in the dielectric.
Dissectible Capacitor (The video's owner prevents external embedding)
Re: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #148, on March 29th, 2014, 04:54 AM »Last edited on March 29th, 2014, 06:22 AM
I found a web site with Tesla's Colorado Springs Notes.
Colorado Springs Notes
As mentioned above, check out June 26, 1899

As I surmised the hydrogen was to be used for the balloons. Look at the July 5,1899 notes.

"From older notes: Consider generation of hydrogen for balloons in the ordinary way:"

where he looks at electrolyzing and considers the output obtained vs the amp/hours used to be "Ridiculously small!"

Alan