Cold Electricity how to

gpssonar

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #50, on January 22nd, 2014, 05:23 AM »
I am 100% sure someone added the wording, but you can see clearly where Stan more or less copied his work.

nav

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #51, on January 22nd, 2014, 07:19 AM »
Quote from gpssonar on January 22nd, 2014, 05:23 AM
I am 100% sure someone added the wording, but you can see clearly where Stan more or less copied his work.
Clearly Meyer copied Tesla. The mechanical break between the two cells, what is it doing, acting like a diode and switching?


Farrah Day

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #52, on January 22nd, 2014, 08:40 AM »
Quote from gpssonar on January 22nd, 2014, 05:23 AM
I am 100% sure someone added the wording, but you can see clearly where Stan more or less copied his work.
I see, so in Tesla's drawings those are just normal capacitors, not WFCs of any kind. And Tesla never actually dabbled in any kind of electrolysis then, someone has simply swapped out Tesla's real capacitors for two conducting plates submerged in water! :s

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RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #53, on January 22nd, 2014, 08:58 AM »
Quote from Farrah Day on January 22nd, 2014, 08:40 AM
Quote from gpssonar on January 22nd, 2014, 05:23 AM
I am 100% sure someone added the wording, but you can see clearly where Stan more or less copied his work.
I see, so in Tesla's drawings those are just normal capacitors, not WFCs of any kind. And Tesla never actually dabbled in any kind of electrolysis then, someone has simply swapped out Tesla's real capacitors for two conducting plates submerged in water! :s
No. Tesla dabbled in WFC's too and those are cells.

Farrah Day

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #54, on January 22nd, 2014, 09:49 AM »
Quote from nav on January 22nd, 2014, 08:58 AM
Quote from Farrah Day on January 22nd, 2014, 08:40 AM
Quote from gpssonar on January 22nd, 2014, 05:23 AM
I am 100% sure someone added the wording, but you can see clearly where Stan more or less copied his work.
I see, so in Tesla's drawings those are just normal capacitors, not WFCs of any kind. And Tesla never actually dabbled in any kind of electrolysis then, someone has simply swapped out Tesla's real capacitors for two conducting plates submerged in water! :s
No. Tesla dabbled in WFC's too and those are cells.
Then I've certainly not seen that patent... anyone got a link to it?

Matt Watts

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #55, on January 22nd, 2014, 10:51 AM »
Quote from Farrah Day on January 22nd, 2014, 09:49 AM
Then I've certainly not seen that patent... anyone got a link to it?
The only reference to Tesla and splitting water that I could find is here:
http://tesla3.com/free_websites/hydroxy.html
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One example is U.S. Patent 4,394,230, Method and Apparatus for Splitting Water Molecules, issued to Dr. Andrija Puharich in 1983. His method made complex electrical wave forms resonate water molecules and shatter them, which freed hydrogen and oxygen. By using Tesla's understanding of electrical resonance, Puharich was able to split the water molecule much more efficiently than the brute-force electrolysis that every physics student knows. (Resonance is what shatters a crystal goblet when an opera singer hits the exact note which vibrates with the crystal's molecular structure.)

freethisone


Farrah Day

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #57, on January 22nd, 2014, 03:34 PM »
Quote from Matt Watts on January 22nd, 2014, 10:51 AM
Quote from Farrah Day on January 22nd, 2014, 09:49 AM
Then I've certainly not seen that patent... anyone got a link to it?
The only reference to Tesla and splitting water that I could find is here:
http://tesla3.com/free_websites/hydroxy.html
Quote
One example is U.S. Patent 4,394,230, Method and Apparatus for Splitting Water Molecules, issued to Dr. Andrija Puharich in 1983. His method made complex electrical wave forms resonate water molecules and shatter them, which freed hydrogen and oxygen. By using Tesla's understanding of electrical resonance, Puharich was able to split the water molecule much more efficiently than the brute-force electrolysis that every physics student knows. (Resonance is what shatters a crystal goblet when an opera singer hits the exact note which vibrates with the crystal's molecular structure.)
Sorry, doesn't do anything for me Matt, I remain unconvinced.

I've been scouring the internet trying to find a Tesla patent that shows that drawing and I can't even find just that drawing - so far I've come up blank!

If indeed that is a Tesla drawing, then as meticulous as he was, I feel sure that he would have indicated clearly that they were not conventional condensers. So where has that drawing come from, GPS... BZG... Nav? Someone must know!

Matt Watts

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #58, on January 22nd, 2014, 04:46 PM »Last edited on January 22nd, 2014, 06:38 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from Farrah Day on January 22nd, 2014, 03:34 PM
Sorry, doesn't do anything for me Matt, I remain unconvinced.
That wasn't to convince you, it was to agree with you.
Quote from "eHow"
The Discovery of Electrolysis

Electrolysis was independently discovered by two different scientists in 1800. English chemist William Nicholson, working with Anthony Carlisle, first used electrolysis to decompose water into hydrogen and oxygen. German chemist Johann Ritter also discovered electrolysis later the same year. In the first decade of the 19th century, English chemist Humphrey Davies used the new technology of electrolysis to discover many previously unknown elements, including potassium and sodium.
Possibly Tesla would have called it something other than electrolysis.

This is an interesting read if anyone cares to peruse it:
http://www.free-energy-info.com/P34.pdf

In there Tesla clearly states he had many patents ready to submit, but abandoned them due to time and expense.

Breakzeitgeist

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #59, on January 22nd, 2014, 10:19 PM »
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1931-12-00.htm

Good Doc. Im still reading all of Dr. Tesla work I beleave in this endevor that the truth will be found
RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #60, on January 23rd, 2014, 01:24 AM »
Dr. Tesla Talks all about the use of the Asymmetric and many diffrent set ups imployed on apparatus at that time. So I beleave we should start doing the same. (meaning the points of contacts of brush with communtator on both sides of armeture) Great find Matt the paper everyone should read....Keep the contact points of brush and communtator in mind when reading and it makes more sience.

Farrah Day

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #62, on January 23rd, 2014, 03:00 AM »
Quote from Matt Watts on January 22nd, 2014, 04:46 PM
Quote from "eHow"
The Discovery of Electrolysis

Electrolysis was independently discovered by two different scientists in 1800. English chemist William Nicholson, working with Anthony Carlisle, first used electrolysis to decompose water into hydrogen and oxygen. German chemist Johann Ritter also discovered electrolysis later the same year. In the first decade of the 19th century, English chemist Humphrey Davies used the new technology of electrolysis to discover many previously unknown elements, including potassium and sodium.
Possibly Tesla would have called it something other than electrolysis.

This is an interesting read if anyone cares to peruse it:
http://www.free-energy-info.com/P34.pdf

In there Tesla clearly states he had many patents ready to submit, but abandoned them due to time and expense.
BZG, how did you come by that Tesla drawing?  Where is it from? You showed it on your video... you must surely know where you got it from!

I know Tesla did work with water and pumps and other various arrangements whereby heat and pressure were involved but I'm yet to see any mention of dissociating water or hydrogen gas.

If those really are water cells then this is a side of Tesla's work that I'm totally unaware of, and the full document/patent will certainly make for interesting reading.

gpssonar

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #63, on January 23rd, 2014, 03:12 AM »
I am still trying to find it myself, I know I have it on my computer somewhere. I need to get all my files in order someday. I would like to read it again myself to see if it has anything to do with water, I can't remember it's been so long ago. All I remember about it was it stuck out like a sore thumb that Stan copied his work.

Matt Watts

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #64, on January 23rd, 2014, 03:14 AM »Last edited on January 23rd, 2014, 03:22 AM by Matt Watts
That's what I've said all along and you just showed it--you can't measure this kind of energy with typical devices, but you can do work with it.

You are cohering the virtual particle flux as Tom Bearden would suggest.  This kind of energy is like white light.  It doesn't contain just red, green or blue.  It contains all frequencies, which is why it is so powerful.  The energy density is massive.  Seriously folks, when is the last time you put your hand next to an AC ammeter and the readings doubled?

Breakzeitgeist

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #65, on January 23rd, 2014, 03:27 AM »
I really dont know where I got it only that it was important as I am trying to say. Asymmetric + COLD + Vortex = what we are looking for. Take time and review all of Warrens Youtube videos I would consider him the only one so far that is putting it all together. I am no expert only thing i am really good at is finding the truth and so i am and sharing what I Feel....nothing more.

Farrah Day

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #66, on January 23rd, 2014, 03:33 AM »
Quote from gpssonar on January 23rd, 2014, 03:12 AM
I am still trying to find it myself, I know I have it on my computer somewhere. I need to get all my files in order someday. I would like to read it again myself to see if it has anything to do with water, I can't remember it's been so long ago. All I remember about it was it stuck out like a sore thumb that Stan copied his work.
Yeah, I know the feeling. The times I've tried to find a document or an article that I remember seeing.

I tend to print out anything interesting or important just so I have a hard copy. My filing cabinet is full of stuff, but can I ever find what one document I'm looking for...! :(

Breakzeitgeist

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #67, on January 23rd, 2014, 03:39 AM »
Quote from Farrah Day on January 23rd, 2014, 03:00 AM
Quote from Matt Watts on January 22nd, 2014, 04:46 PM
Quote from "eHow"
The Discovery of Electrolysis

Electrolysis was independently discovered by two different scientists in 1800. English chemist William Nicholson, working with Anthony Carlisle, first used electrolysis to decompose water into hydrogen and oxygen. German chemist Johann Ritter also discovered electrolysis later the same year. In the first decade of the 19th century, English chemist Humphrey Davies used the new technology of electrolysis to discover many previously unknown elements, including potassium and sodium.
Possibly Tesla would have called it something other than electrolysis.

This is an interesting read if anyone cares to peruse it:
http://www.free-energy-info.com/P34.pdf

In there Tesla clearly states he had many patents ready to submit, but abandoned them due to time and expense.
BZG, how did you come by that Tesla drawing?  Where is it from? You showed it on your video... you must surely know where you got it from!

I know Tesla did work with water and pumps and other various arrangements whereby heat and pressure were involved but I'm yet to see any mention of dissociating water or hydrogen gas.

If those really are water cells then this is a side of Tesla's work that I'm totally unaware of, and the full document/patent will certainly make for interesting reading.
that drawing is in that PDF about half way down

Farrah Day

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #68, on January 23rd, 2014, 05:47 AM »Last edited on January 23rd, 2014, 05:47 AM by Farrah Day
Quote from Breakzeitgeist on January 23rd, 2014, 03:39 AM
that drawing is in that PDF about half way down
Got it - I thought I'd already looked at that PDF! :blush:

Anyway, what Tesla was doing there was enclosing a room in a loop of thick wire/metal conductor enabling wireless energy to be tapped into anywhere within the room.

Tesla simply shows a bank of condensers of his standard design as would be required for the purpose at hand - the number of condensers being directly related to the size of the room. And while I can see the obvious similarities between this drawing and Meyer's, there is absolutely nothing to suggest Tesla's condensers are anything other than standard, especially given that his cct would not work as intended if they were water cells.

Rather curiously, the US patent 654,576, that is referred to beneath the drawing, does not in fact show this particular drawing. However, if this drawing is simply considered to be a simple variation on the drawing in US patent 654,576, then again, clearly no water cells are involved.

Breakzeitgeist

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #69, on January 23rd, 2014, 05:52 AM »
Water cells or not its the effect and the energy tapped Im interested in.

freethisone

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #70, on January 23rd, 2014, 06:01 PM »
Quote from freethisone on January 16th, 2014, 12:34 PM
Quote from Breakzeitgeist on January 16th, 2014, 12:30 PM
I have more circuits and explinations coming. Next we are going to transmit this positive current trough the earth and receave it at another point amplified. The Light coming from this energy is Magnetic and can charge a cap and produce frost on the electrodes...maybe why it got its name.
omg sweet, dont keep us hanging to long, get it out there quick..
yo yo, i need more information...

can you show us the frost experiment you averted to? the one were it gets cold? thanks.:angel:

Enrg4life

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #71, on January 24th, 2014, 02:46 PM »Last edited on January 24th, 2014, 02:56 PM by Enrg4life
Quote from Lynx on January 21st, 2014, 03:11 AM
Thanks for sharing, most interesting.
I wonder why such a Nitinol heat engine isn't more efficient than what's reported, which is in the order of 5% tops?
Is it a coverup on behalf of the fossile fuel industry?
Ninitol is available for purchase though, it's listed on both eBay and Amazon.

I have some nitinol. I had adult orthodontics and my orthodontic wire is nitinol.When I finished with my treatment i asked him if I could have the wires that they where going to have to dispose of and he gave me about 40 of them. This wire is limp when cold and when installed in your mouth your body heat wants to straighten the wire out and helps reduce the number of appointments need to straighten the teeth.

firepinto

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #72, on January 24th, 2014, 04:06 PM »
Quote from Enrg4life on January 24th, 2014, 02:46 PM
Quote from Lynx on January 21st, 2014, 03:11 AM
Thanks for sharing, most interesting.
I wonder why such a Nitinol heat engine isn't more efficient than what's reported, which is in the order of 5% tops?
Is it a coverup on behalf of the fossile fuel industry?
Ninitol is available for purchase though, it's listed on both eBay and Amazon.


I have some nitinol. I had adult orthodontics and my orthodontic wire is nitinol.When I finished with my treatment i asked him if I could have the wires that they where going to have to dispose of and he gave me about 40 of them. This wire is limp when cold and when installed in your mouth your body heat wants to straighten the wire out and helps reduce the number of appointments need to straighten the teeth.
Huh, I never knew that.  I wish I knew that a pile of years ago.  I could of had a bunch of those.  

Matt Watts


Jeff Nading

RE: Cold Electricity how to
« Reply #74, on January 24th, 2014, 07:32 PM »
Cool Matt, I have about 6 flyback transformers.:D