Quote from admin on April 6th, 2011, 06:39 PM

This is my current project, Reinventing Stanley Meyers EPG System.

This is a HUGE project and i will need all the help i can get! please come over to the forums and post your thoughts!

Above is a photo of one of Stanly's EPG system. See more Photos here.


The EPG system or Electrical Particle Generator is basically a particle accelerator. The EPG system is something that Stan was working on along with the Water Fuel Cell technology. It is suppose to be able to amplify the incoming signal/power to a much grater amperage / voltage.  It seems that not many people know that Stan was even working on this system. I have been doing extensive research and development on this system.

  The videos of my progress can be seen by clicking the links below. I have split this topic into two categories:

Lecture/open discussion of my work on the EPG system

My EPG Building Progress

 This is my Copper EPG i will be using for testing. The wire will be installed next, at a bare minim there will be close to 2 miles of AWG22 magnet wire on this EPG.   You can see my first attempt at the EPG using plastic at the end of this page.

Here you can see the Primary coil, this is an array of coils that will be pulsed in a sequence using the Pulse Fire box.

This is my second gas Processor. The Famous “Hydrogen Gas Gun”. Please see the details of the HGG HERE

 

This gas Processor has 403nm led's on it right now but i will be adding deferent wave length led's to help the process.



This is looking down in to the processor.  

Here is the video of the high quality EPG photos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOarpi6sDD4

Please come join the fun over at the forums here:

 

You can also see this device described in Patrick J. Kelly's

Practical Guide to Free-Energy Devices

see page 89 in the link below


http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf




Thanks,

~Russ Gries

Below are some old photos and work on my first Plastic EPG and Gas processor:

My plastic EPG.

The primary.

My first gas processor.

My first Gas Processor in action.

Maybe I missed it but why did you go from plastic to cooper?
Something I never quite understood from Stan was that he recommended a non magnetic pipe for the EPG...for the purpose that it does not impede inductance in the coils...yet he used cooper tubing.. which is non magnetic yet it will react to a changing magnetic field. why not use something like flexible plastic clear pipe?

Quote from Heuristicobfuscation on August 30th, 2013, 07:30 PM

Maybe I missed it but why did you go from plastic to cooper?
Something I never quite understood from Stan was that he recommended a non magnetic pipe for the EPG...for the purpose that it does not impede inductance in the coils...yet he used cooper tubing.. which is non magnetic yet it will react to a changing magnetic field. why not use something like flexible plastic clear pipe?

the main reason was after i build the plastic one i seen one of the photos and seeing Stan used copper i decided to use copper. as i wanted to test it as it was...

thats really the only reason.

its unfortunate i haven't returned to this project yet. its on my list. unfortunately i havent the time but i have gained some knowledge and hope to return to it soon with new ideas...  

i should make a video talking about theses ideas...

~Russ

Dear Forum Member
check these pics out of possible epg

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/08/is-free-energy-slowly-being-unveiled.html

Dan
www.securesupplies.biz

Thanks for the link!

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on August 31st, 2013, 02:11 AM

Quote from Heuristicobfuscation on August 30th, 2013, 07:30 PM

Maybe I missed it but why did you go from plastic to cooper?
Something I never quite understood from Stan was that he recommended a non magnetic pipe for the EPG...for the purpose that it does not impede inductance in the coils...yet he used cooper tubing.. which is non magnetic yet it will react to a changing magnetic field. why not use something like flexible plastic clear pipe?

the main reason was after i build the plastic one i seen one of the photos and seeing Stan used copper i decided to use copper. as i wanted to test it as it was...

thats really the only reason.

its unfortunate i haven't returned to this project yet. its on my list. unfortunately i havent the time but i have gained some knowledge and hope to return to it soon with new ideas...  

i should make a video talking about theses ideas...

~Russ

Russ my friend you are doing really good work. Sometimes the lack of time allows us to catch up with our thoughts. I know the felling .. keep up the  good work.
btw Russ that is a really nice looking gas processor.
 
Is there any documentation showing Stan Meyer using or making the Magnetic gas?

Was he using the electron extraction circuit to make the gas?  or did he use other method?

I see the EPG as a system where ionized gas is pushed in circles and pickup coils take the energy out without the system being bothered about it.

If one takes copper as a pipe..then won't the charge go reside at the outside and disperse over the whole surface?

I think the best test would be done with glass and a rolling magnet, if one can pickup energy with that, without resistance, then one has proven that pickup coils can exist and perform the way Meyer seemed to want it.

Check this out

Could the the EPG gas be run like this or in the centre of the
circumfrance of the donut not centre ,

the middle of the wire tube of votex coil

Quote from securesupplies on October 25th, 2013, 08:51 AM

Check this out

Could the the EPG gas be run like this or in the centre of the
circumfrance of the donut not centre ,

the middle of the wire tube of votex coil

I don't know if Stan was reproducing the Tomahawk. If or not, he needed working pickupcoils. Those things need to get the surplus energy out. So that is where i would start experimenting. Like Paul Babcock(?sp) succeeded in using and diverting the induction force by timing, on needs something like that to get the energy out without influencing the system itself.

The pickupcoils need a timing mechanisme or a diode to pickup the magnetisme or reactive magnetisme (the induction) to gain electricity. Once that problem is solved, it doesn't matter anymore if gas or rolling magnets produce the inside flux.

There is just too much evidence from these earlier inventors pointing to some sort of energetic flow that is not directly measurable, (i.e. gyroscopic particles, radiant energy, magnetic current), but can influence things that are measurable (i.e. voltage, current, magnetic field strength).  All these guys, Meyer, Newman, Leedskalnin, Tesla, zeroed in on it.  I cannot help but to think they knew something we are missing.

The best approach in my opinion is to weed through the descriptions of this energy source and determine what artifacts they all have in common and see if something appears that we can directly capitalize on.  Whatever device we choose to build as a demonstration must be close-looped with no batteries--Moray King made this perfectly clear the other night on Smart Scarecrow.  Anything less will be considered unacceptable--basically the nay sayers will eat our lunch.

In the case of the EPG, it would seem the effect we would be after is amplification of electrical energy by some form of plasma discharge internally.  Suppose we used Babcock's plasma experiment with the large inductor and contained this plasma inside the EPG, can we harvest electrical energy in excess of what was supplied?  If so, can this be close-looped?  If it can be close-looped without power regulation, would the system by its very nature go into a runaway state?  Seems to me it should.

It doesn't seem to matter what you take as power in.

Like Paul Babcock says in the YT interview..the first current going in (an pickup coil) and making a magnetic field is free, takes no resistance.

And if one can time and divert the induction that follows and reloop it also, then one has licked an OU process.

(the timing and diversion trick he uses in his electric engine)

honda40041 year ago
 
non magnetic tube stainless steel then vacuumed negatively charged water this is his magnetised gas steam. as water boils in a vacuum .it has to be this as stan meyer worked on water for all his stuff .then pulse with a l.e.d. ultraviolet this energises the neucleus and the positve charge is on the outer stainless tube and then the hydrogen centralises. basically atoms act as micro ac motors no expert but adds up

Quote from securesupplies on November 9th, 2013, 06:13 AM

honda40041 year ago
 
non magnetic tube stainless steel then vacuumed negatively charged water this is his magnetised gas steam. as water boils in a vacuum .it has to be this as stan meyer worked on water for all his stuff .then pulse with a l.e.d. ultraviolet this energises the neucleus and the positve charge is on the outer stainless tube and then the hydrogen centralises. basically atoms act as micro ac motors no expert but adds up

Problem I have with Stan's EPG is the copper tube.  If you drop a magnet through a copper tube, what does it do?  It falls very slowly due to the lenz effect.  Stan tells us a magnetic gas will travel inside his copper tube at nearly the speed of light.  I say bullcrap.  There's no way.  Since what Stan said in the literal sense is not possible, he must have been trying to tell us something else in parable like the Bible.  Anyone have any guesses as to what that may have been?

Dear EPG Thread Follows and Russ .

Hope your are all doing fine.

It seam that Europe is moving very very fast on this tech.

I have had a series of conversation last 24 hrs and it has givin me a PIle work work
to read up on.

So Far I got this

Watch this Video

Now if the boiler was running on lpg or h2 or other hot fuel

Stan may have had in mind to coneect the epg to the
stainless condensor show in that video which captre the wast heat.

this would  if gas/ lattic steam was in a sealed loop through
epg make gas move would it not?

better get testing if it does that means the epg works n co juction with water heater
to further capure the water heats and drive steam lattice gas through epg.

Becareful as this is powerful stuff we are about to test pressurized steam and gas mixtures with high voltage

Dan

www.securesupplis.biz







 

The gas doesnt exsist. Otherwise we would have a working EPG. It cant be made easily, in fact we dont even know how practicle it is.

Where not sure what the blend of gas is. The apparatus to make the gas is simple really, but that will come out in time. Thats not the key anyway, its the proper gas with iron or nickel that stabilizes without the iron wanting to re-bond.

You have to join the research, thats the only way. Once we get a feasible gas structure figured out, im going to build the device to produce it.[/quote]um hold on there, the gas does not exist?

what?

are you kidding me?

i have a outlined patent on the first epg. it does exist. Stans version is only an adv version with some explanation. you get the same results if you read the patent i provided in an older post.

come on people get with the program.

that is false information.:@ this is at lease the second EPG thread correct?

by doctor Townsend Brown, co founder of the modern lifter, and friend of Tesla. any one had study of telsa work, and TT browns work could make a connection to ufo technology. would have made the connection Stan had seen this dated patent also.

Quote from freethisone on November 11th, 2013, 05:43 AM

The gas doesnt exsist. Otherwise we would have a working EPG. It cant be made easily, in fact we dont even know how practicle it is.

Where not sure what the blend of gas is. The apparatus to make the gas is simple really, but that will come out in time. Thats not the key anyway, its the proper gas with iron or nickel that stabilizes without the iron wanting to re-bond.

You have to join the research, thats the only way. Once we get a feasible gas structure figured out, im going to build the device to produce it.

um hold on there, the gas does not exist?

what?

are you kidding me?

i have a outlined patent on the first epg. it does exist. Stans version is only an adv version with some explanation. you get the same results if you read the patent i provided in an older post.

come on people get with the program.

that is false information.:@ this is at lease the second EPG thread correct?

by doctor Townsend Brown, co founder of the modern lifter, and friend of Tesla. any one had study of telsa work, and TT browns work could make a connection to ufo technology. would have made the connection Stan had seen this dated patent also.[/quote]+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

look at thermal solution and connect epg tthe  energey capture stainless condensor on outside of boilers this is it to circulate the water/steam/ under or in a vacumm it would not take much to get a movement

watch

connect epg to external condensor shown in video

Re EGP    KISS

PLease check this new Page I have made

http://www.securesupplies.biz/#!hydrogen-boiler--central-heating/c5av

I believe that is could be connected like this

1 .to boiler
2. aircon

we vaccum the epg system and fill with

h /argon
h/amonnia or combo
h/freo

please offer feed back on which gas combo you think is viable
I am looking at the expansion sensitivity of the gas with the above recommendations

this follow tesla and meyers  using - argon as shunt and using amonia /hydrogen as  options.


PS I am still pushing for SS wire and other items

any more you need advise, there is going to be some fast progress in new year
as money comes in.

Dan

Quote from securesupplies on November 11th, 2013, 11:26 PM

Re EGP    KISS

PLease check this new Page I have made

http://www.securesupplies.biz/#!hydrogen-boiler--central-heating/c5av

I believe that is could be connected like this

1 .to boiler
2. aircon

we vaccum the epg system and fill with

h /argon
h/amonnia or combo
h/freo

please offer feed back on which gas combo you think is viable
I am looking at the expansion sensitivity of the gas with the above recommendations

this follow tesla and meyers  using - argon as shunt and using amonia /hydrogen as  options.


PS I am still pushing for SS wire and other items

any more you need advise, there is going to be some fast progress in new year
as money comes in.

Dan

steam! it has a high dipole density, it it the best place to start. people we are not looking to get 1 million volts here, we only need to do a simple test. any reading on the output side will confirm magnetic particles are circulation or simply flipping over as the dipole is alined with the coils.

fill it with air if you like, but in that case it needs heat.

hope that helps.

how would a magnetic gas operate in the presence of a changing magnetic field? it will be affected, dipoles will flip over. a simple experiment. take a long florescence lamp 10 inches or so. stick it in the hole of a rodan coil.

observer the effect. test each side of the bulb for voltage, via volt meter. neon lamps can be tested also. wrap a fine wire around a glass tube, 50 turns. put inside a rodan coil test for voltage from the coil.
now same test this time with a magnetic gas present. a neo lamp. wrap the wire around it, 50 turns test in the rodan coil for increased voltage. if any at all.

on the other hand same test,  if the hole in the center of the coil is wide enough test the bulb, and coil described horizontally, and also vertically. to find the direction of the magnetic flux lines.

look at the patent in my post it is very interesting it use the core to collect and put into copper
not copper to copper

interesting

Da

Quote from Matt Watts on November 3rd, 2013, 09:31 AM

There is just too much evidence from these earlier inventors pointing to some sort of energetic flow that is not directly measurable, (i.e. gyroscopic particles, radiant energy, magnetic current), but can influence things that are measurable (i.e. voltage, current, magnetic field strength).  All these guys, Meyer, Newman, Leedskalnin, Tesla, zeroed in on it.  I cannot help but to think they knew something we are missing.

The best approach in my opinion is to weed through the descriptions of this energy source and determine what artifacts they all have in common and see if something appears that we can directly capitalize on.  Whatever device we choose to build as a demonstration must be close-looped with no batteries--Moray King made this perfectly clear the other night on Smart Scarecrow.  Anything less will be considered unacceptable--basically the nay sayers will eat our lunch.

In the case of the EPG, it would seem the effect we would be after is amplification of electrical energy by some form of plasma discharge internally.  Suppose we used Babcock's plasma experiment with the large inductor and contained this plasma inside the EPG, can we harvest electrical energy in excess of what was supplied?  If so, can this be close-looped?  If it can be close-looped without power regulation, would the system by its very nature go into a runaway state?  Seems to me it should.

for a simple understanding,  plasma outputs 5 times the power then it takes to vaporize , and ionize.  loosing mass as electrons are striipped from vapoure, and at the same time in a more energetic state holding up the magnetic field. open path way . = less resistance. plasma is magnetic ion
would you simply flip the dipole without a need for a pump? I would. plasmatron.  /watch?v=mT-94c1Q6Ms

adv. an epg with a Ed Lee cranked gen. for flipping dipoles, without the need for a pump. and done by hand power. a spark is only required.. in theory we can make it work without plasma at all. fill the epg with iron fillings. magnetic fields create electric fields.  what came first the chicken or the egg? magnetic means came first, perhaps a spark was required. static means.
 cheer
woooT! WOOOT..

 are you excited?:cool::cool::angel:

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Quote from zombiesplat on May 20th, 2013, 01:46 PM

Hey there, this may seem like a very noob (ish) question, but I am curious to know...




1) What kind of gas are you supposed to use?




This is the first I've heard of this concept but it makes sense in a very traditional sense.

2) Also, Meyer said (in some video which sounded like a lecture) that the gases couldn't be magnetized at room temperature and I immediately thought that water boils at room temperature when you pull the air out of a closed system (lower atmospheric pressure).  So does this system also utilize those properties? if not, do you think it might benefit from that?

Thanks in advance.

Water doesnt boil, it gets released in to a gas because of the low atmospheric pressure.

I have a thread about the gas here: http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=1181&pid=15332#pid15332

Are you talking about where he says that scientists used high pressure and extremely low temperatures and the gas started showing magnetic properties?

Because the point of the EPG working is he made a magnetic gas with iron or nickel and any of the noble gases or with hydrogen too.

Bottom line....

Where do I get the gas to put in this device?  

can I buy it? can I make it easily?  is the HHG gas permanently magnetized?

The gas doesnt exsist. Otherwise we would have a working EPG. It cant be made easily, in fact we dont even know how practicle it is.

Where not sure what the blend of gas is. The apparatus to make the gas is simple really, but that will come out in time. Thats not the key anyway, its the proper gas with iron or nickel that stabilizes without the iron wanting to re-bond.

You have to join the research, thats the only way. Once we get a feasible gas structure figured out, im going to build the device to produce it.

Maybe this could help: http://www.worldsci.org/pdf/abstracts/abstracts_5440.pdf

An interesting paper Zweistein :D
http://www.worldsci.org/pdf/abstracts/ab...s_5440.pdf

Quote from Matt Watts on November 3rd, 2013, 09:31 AM

There is just too much evidence from these earlier inventors pointing to some sort of energetic flow that is not directly measurable, (i.e. gyroscopic particles, radiant energy, magnetic current), but can influence things that are measurable (i.e. voltage, current, magnetic field strength).  All these guys, Meyer, Newman, Leedskalnin, Tesla, zeroed in on it.  I cannot help but to think they knew something we are missing.
...

whom did they get their ideas from? where did they read others´patents???

they invented it on themselves and they prooved their theories by practical lab experiments.

.. there is no other way to go guys ...

Quote from bussi04 on November 16th, 2013, 11:08 AM

Quote from Matt Watts on November 3rd, 2013, 09:31 AM

There is just too much evidence from these earlier inventors pointing to some sort of energetic flow that is not directly measurable, (i.e. gyroscopic particles, radiant energy, magnetic current), but can influence things that are measurable (i.e. voltage, current, magnetic field strength).  All these guys, Meyer, Newman, Leedskalnin, Tesla, zeroed in on it.  I cannot help but to think they knew something we are missing.
...

whom did they get their ideas from? where did they read others´patents???

they invented it on themselves and they prooved their theories by practical lab experiments.

.. there is no other way to go guys ...

Then, aswell as now, patents and papers were published and these guys used whatever means they could to read all these documents & proof of work of other researchers/scientists and consequently found inspiration in their own line of thinking/work.
I agree with practical lab experiments, there's really nothing beating that.
You could have the sweetest theory about something but until it's tested in real life, either through lab experiments or full scale applications, your theories really means nothing, they're only interesting out of a philosophical point of view (more or less anyway).

Quote from Lynx on November 16th, 2013, 12:18 PM

Quote from bussi04 on November 16th, 2013, 11:08 AM

Quote from Matt Watts on November 3rd, 2013, 09:31 AM

There is just too much evidence from these earlier inventors pointing to some sort of energetic flow that is not directly measurable, (i.e. gyroscopic particles, radiant energy, magnetic current), but can influence things that are measurable (i.e. voltage, current, magnetic field strength).  All these guys, Meyer, Newman, Leedskalnin, Tesla, zeroed in on it.  I cannot help but to think they knew something we are missing.
...

link ya. http://open-source-energy.org?pid=198#pid198

whom did they get their ideas from? where did they read others´patents???

they invented it on themselves and they prooved their theories by practical lab experiments.

.. there is no other way to go guys ...

Then, aswell as now, patents and papers were published and these guys used whatever means they could to read all these documents & proof of work of other researchers/scientists and consequently found inspiration in their own line of thinking/work.
I agree with practical lab experiments, there's really nothing beating that.
You could have the sweetest theory about something but until it's tested in real life, either through lab experiments or full scale applications, your theories really means nothing, they're only interesting out of a philosophical point of view (more or less anyway).

:blush::-/ i disagree. Theory needs simply to be proven. in that case who said it first?
in every case others are inspired to draw there own conclusion. therfore we have many before us.

hidden from text how dare u.

this is always, the way prgress is made. U get one shot at the Teather.
one shot at your flight.:dodgy:

I can now use lenz effect as lenz breaking, hence my EMF.. cheers..we had a break down in communication, a lack of understanding. the words were changed, and hence the confus-ion.

we had our language change so we could not rediscover.

indeed we have. cheers.:heart:

a short clip,  i never thought possible. this day to express my inner feelings, and discovery along the way. /watch?v=RSYTr-kuM2k
i am at ease, and delighted.
it is a 42 minute feature, and may be of some interest.
it is an open discussion with my self, on the classical laws of nature i support.
and these simple examples of inventions i see. it is emotional, and energetic. of a good nature, open, and honest.

many new gated railroads are now open for your success.:heart::heart:

ic.
/watch?v=RSYTr-kuM2k