Water spark plug replication.

Jeff Nading

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #75, on April 21st, 2012, 07:43 PM »
Quote from scot on April 21st, 2012, 05:35 PM
Hi Jeff,
Sorry i missed your post, i talked with Russ about building the injector.
I think i would rather start from scratch only so i could build in adjustments.
Thanks for the offer, Scot
No problem Scot, I'm glad you were able to talk with Russ and excited to see what you can come up with, Jeff.:D:P




securesupplies

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #79, on May 23rd, 2012, 02:45 PM »
Quote from securesupplies on May 23rd, 2012, 02:37 PM
this show that even, if you put detergent it won't bubble as the vibration break the water tension and h2 release from electrolizer is obsorbed into water kinda of saturating it,  Stanely said a unformly homogenised mix. or simething very similar
so he fractured it meter mix and the I am sure found he could vibrate buuble out mean it was a mix fuel

see here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUPE0Z9V82E
so in conclusion the NZ Zealand guy, did some ting easy just concenrtraded the
h2 saturatured in the water, a little thing all the hho guys have missed.
better do some experiementing on this now, if you have a powerfull electrolizer
use the water  in the electrolizer, more than the gas after running it, and see what happens,  than also try vibrating it during the electrolization process to see if you get same result or better than this guy. ps better down load and re post that video every one.


Ravenous Emu

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #81, on May 25th, 2012, 11:18 PM »Last edited on May 25th, 2012, 11:34 PM by Ravenous Emu
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on March 6th, 2012, 02:47 AM
Quote from phil on March 2nd, 2012, 02:56 PM
Heres a video of Herman Anderson who had a car running from a water sparkplug
https://vimeo.com/37306772
nice find... very interesting... :) thanks Phil
sounds like he is just producing  Orthohydrogen? this boosted his results X2 by making the H twice as dense?
~Russ
I went to the same school as Mr Ricketts.  He is one of the professors there at Middle Tennessee State University.
Boy that's just weird to see a video about that... (small world huh?)
lol
Quote from Jeff Nading on May 25th, 2012, 02:29 PM
Here is a question, why could we not modify an injector from a car engine?:D
http://www.howcarswork.co.uk/modules/articles/article.php?id=8
Why not. :D
That's my thought too.
Why not make an adaptor with a ceramic disc at the end to prevent the "spark back" and then just use a regular spark plug?

(BTW...I haven't read completely through this thread yet.  So,please forgive me if I've said something someone else has mention or explained.)

PS I did that best I could with the drawing... don't have any nice CAD programs... (nor do I know how to use Autocad/sketchup/blender/etc.)

Jeff Nading

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #82, on May 26th, 2012, 04:39 AM »
Quote from Ravenous Emu on May 25th, 2012, 11:18 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on March 6th, 2012, 02:47 AM
Quote from phil on March 2nd, 2012, 02:56 PM
Heres a video of Herman Anderson who had a car running from a water sparkplug
https://vimeo.com/37306772
nice find... very interesting... :) thanks Phil
sounds like he is just producing  Orthohydrogen? this boosted his results X2 by making the H twice as dense?
~Russ
I went to the same school as Mr Ricketts.  He is one of the professors there at Middle Tennessee State University.
Boy that's just weird to see a video about that... (small world huh?)
lol
Quote from Jeff Nading on May 25th, 2012, 02:29 PM
Here is a question, why could we not modify an injector from a car engine?:D
http://www.howcarswork.co.uk/modules/articles/article.php?id=8
Why not. :D
That's my thought too.
Why not make an adaptor with a ceramic disc at the end to prevent the "spark back" and then just use a regular spark plug?

(BTW...I haven't read completely through this thread yet.  So,please forgive me if I've said something someone else has mention or explained.)

PS I did that best I could with the drawing... don't have any nice CAD programs... (nor do I know how to use Autocad/sketchup/blender/etc.)
Good drawing, yes we need to explore all options.:D

securesupplies

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #83, on May 26th, 2012, 09:29 AM »
 We could do many things, but the foundations of the workings  must  ingrained broader base of people, Particulary hot rodders mechanics and lpg installers lots things we can hack up and modify out there, after the educations on method is there.  

securesupplies

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #84, on May 27th, 2012, 12:03 AM »Last edited on May 27th, 2012, 12:19 AM by securesupplies
Home Work

 Food for thought


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Dan
Secure Supplies


SPECIAL NOTE

To those of you getting excited and involved now,

Please allocated a percentage of your time to

1. Saving all pages in a organised folder way, and you too back it up again on a removable drive.

2.Saving the Videos Go through you tube videos from Russ and Others and Dowload load them in mp4 format you can use http://www.downloadhelper.net/
a well proven video saver in flv and mp4, reason you want to save mp4 you can re upload to other sites easily and share.

3. Come up with ingenious ways low profile to raise donations for RWG Research.
This could be helping russ consolidate orders, make website for ordeirng that have a clear donation option For RWG.

4. Remember Stephen Meyers was Stan Meyers Twin Brother and say a pray for them both for working hard to think up ways to design things and to Leave us the knowledge in term and words we lead us to the answer every time Thank you Boys.

5. Welcome the young un jaded and Skilled to the Forum , they are the future.
SPECIAL NOTE

To those of you getting excited and involved now,

Please allocated a percentage of your time to

1. Saving all pages in a organised folder way, and you too back it up again on a removable drive.

2.Saving the Videos Go through you tube videos from Russ and Others and Dowload load them in mp4 format you can use http://www.downloadhelper.net/
a well proven video saver in flv and mp4, reason you want to save mp4 you can re upload to other sites easily and share.

3. Come up with ingenious ways low profile to raise donations for RWG Research.
This could be helping russ consolidate orders, make website for ordeirng that have a clear donation option For RWG.  Russ is a quite guy and is putting insane amounts of time and sharing all of it with us. Just plan to donate is what I am saying now or as soon as you able in what ever way you can, thought time knowledge research funds or raising efforts.

4. Remember Stephen Meyers was Stan Meyers Twin Brother and say a pray for them both for working hard to think up ways to design things and to Leave us the knowledge in term and words we lead us to the answer every time Thank you Boys.

5. Welcome the young un jaded and Skilled to the Forum , they are the future.

Muxar

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #85, on May 27th, 2012, 03:10 AM »
Hi Jeff!!
The injector you showed is a common rail injector of a diesel engine.
they work with a tremendous pressure (i think they work up to 2.000bar by now)and they have really small holes in the end(like 5-6), you almost can not see them. as soon as you take them out of the engine, you have to put them in diesel because the holes can oxidize with the contact of the air and leave that very expensive injector useless. Diesel fuel is also the one that lubricates the injector, as soon as you have litle amount of water mixed with the fuel you can break the injector.that injectors and the high pressure pump gives a lot of trouble.
So is not the best for this task but maybe that configuration can give us some idea.
Another diferent injector that works with high pressure is the one of the picture.
i don´t know how is it´s name in english(in spanish is inyector bomba) but this one has an individual pump and also works with a tremendous pressure.
Muxar.
Quote from Jeff Nading on May 25th, 2012, 02:29 PM
Here is a question, why could we not modify an injector from a car engine?:D
http://www.howcarswork.co.uk/modules/articles/article.php?id=8

securesupplies

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #86, on May 27th, 2012, 08:50 AM »
According to Machinery's Handbook (24th ed pg 1650), there are four standard SAE spark plug threads, all metric: M18 x 1.5; M14 x 1.25; M12 x 1.25; and M10 x 1.0  threads are metrics.  Thread size and depth is important when do threading on injector/ spark plugs ,  I posted this as we will need to thread the injectors.

Any more info welcome on thread size I tried to find a chat but tis is best I can get with depth on thread also

Dan

Ravenous Emu

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #87, on May 28th, 2012, 07:55 PM »Last edited on May 28th, 2012, 08:19 PM by Ravenous Emu
Just found some more info

A & P Technician Powerplant Textbook. Englewood, CO.: Jeppesen Sanderson, 2009. Page 8-98:8-100
"SPARK PLUGS
...The construction and operation of a spark plug is simple, but the performance and reliability requirements are substantial... Each ignition event includes a 20,000 volt spark jumping the gap between the electrodes.  Furthermore, a spark plug operates at temperatures of 3000 degrees Fahrenheit or higher with gas pressures up to 2,000 p.s.i."

"SPARK PLUG THREADS
One method for classifying spark plugs is by the size of the threads that screw into the cylinder assembly.  In aviation, spark plug threads are either 14 or 18 millimeter.  Nearly all modern aircraft engines use 18mm.
The terminal end threads also come in two sizes:  either 5/8" - 24 or 3/4" - 20 thread. Both sizes are in use; however, the 3/4" - 20 is most common. The 3/4" - 20 thread is referred to as an all-weather spark plug.  In an all-weather spark plug, the ceramic insulator does not extend to the top of the plug shell.  Instead, there is room to accommodate a silicone grommet on the spark plug lead to form a watertight seal."

Also, they apparently make 2 types of lengths (aka "spark plug reach").
"The end of the threads should be flush with the inside wall of the cylinder head."

scot

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #88, on May 28th, 2012, 08:29 PM »
Hi guys,
14 x 125 is the most common, length is not critical most small engines are about .5" long. You might also remember that this is also an injector and it's placement is not so critical as far as depth is concerned all the action takes place within the confines of the injector except the spark and it will fire the mix just fine even if it is recessed. I have much experiance in this type of work. What is critical is that the injector is built exactly to Stans specifications and that the other parts of the puzzel are also.
Thanks, Scot


HHOIceland

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #90, on May 29th, 2012, 05:58 AM »
Has anyone heard of Robert Krupas Fire storm spark plug, I did some research on the guy a few months ago and I found a PDF that describes how to make these spark plugs.  they're not that hard to make if you got the tools for it.
Basically what the idea of this invention is that it makes a better spark and makes the engine work on much leaner fuel mixture. A normal engine has a 14,7:1 air fuel ratio the firestorm spark plug could easily go over 35:1 and wasn't able to go further because the computer system that controlled the engine was not programmed for leaner fuel mixtures than 35:1.
Anyway my point is that he talked about one of his experiments when he fitted his spark plug into the engine of his car and he threaded a hose into the intake of his engine to get a leaner mixture, when he fired up the engine there was a small amount of water in the hose before he started. when he turned on the engine the water went into the engine and the spark plug just ignited it as if it was fuel. so this would be a fun experiment to do on a small engine simply by just feeding it with a fine water mist and using this spark plug.

Here is the PDF and a photo of the spark plug.

nbq201

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #91, on May 29th, 2012, 02:35 PM »
Quote from HHOIceland on May 29th, 2012, 05:58 AM
Has anyone heard of Robert Krupas Fire storm spark plug, I did some research on the guy a few months ago and I found a PDF that describes how to make these spark plugs.  they're not that hard to make if you got the tools for it.
Basically what the idea of this invention is that it makes a better spark and makes the engine work on much leaner fuel mixture. A normal engine has a 14,7:1 air fuel ratio the firestorm spark plug could easily go over 35:1 and wasn't able to go further because the computer system that controlled the engine was not programmed for leaner fuel mixtures than 35:1.
Anyway my point is that he talked about one of his experiments when he fitted his spark plug into the engine of his car and he threaded a hose into the intake of his engine to get a leaner mixture, when he fired up the engine there was a small amount of water in the hose before he started. when he turned on the engine the water went into the engine and the spark plug just ignited it as if it was fuel. so this would be a fun experiment to do on a small engine simply by just feeding it with a fine water mist and using this spark plug.

Here is the PDF and a photo of the spark plug.
Nice find, HHOIceand!.  That one puts out alot of power.  Let's expand on it.
Here is some more background on  this, videos:
 http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Firestorm_Spark_Plug

and a PDF of some ideas and experiments people have done with making copies of this plug, that may help with building the plug we are trying to accomplish:
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/howtomakeplasmaplugs.pdf



Ravenous Emu

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #93, on May 29th, 2012, 06:32 PM »
Secure,

I did find this... It's not a spread sheet.  But, It'll do the job I think. :)
http://www.sparkplugs.com/search_char.asp?seenWarning=1&manufacturerID=

Also, I did find a PDF detailing some of the plugs you can use in a Textron Lycoming engine.
http://www.lycoming.com/support/publications/service-instructions/pdfs/SI1042Z.pdf

The second page has some good info on the part number designators. (might be useful, never know.)
1) Champion
2) SL Auburn
3) Unison

artinvegas

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #94, on July 24th, 2012, 05:11 PM »
Quote from H2oplasmaplug on September 24th, 2011, 10:07 PM
lets see if this works. this is meyers spark plug you can see how the inner connection has a long rod about an inch and a half i think its gonna be made out of either nickle tungsten or cobalt. the outer case could look like its either titanium or light tungsten. it could be made of stainless with low chromium. i made my casing out of stainless 600 grade called inconel. its very high nickle content. i did make them out of aluminum so i could get to hold one and then i made one out of brass and stainless 304.


this shows the injector port for the water spark plug (wsp)

this is the dc plasma i was using when i first started.

here is one of meyers water spark plugs on his dune buggy you can see there is only one fuel inlet.

here you can see meyers holding his water spark plug in his hand and there is a hole in the middle of the outlet that is between 1/16 and 3/16

here is just another pic of the same thing from a little futher back

here is one of meyers designs he did.



last post is used for high voltage on a scope. my buddy stone sent that to me.

i think this is paharishs water spark plug
I built some steam injectors like stans.
I have the original water injection diagrams from stan.
The dielectric core is made from macor,a corning product. very pricey,about 80bucks for a 12" x .5" piece of round stock.
Stan called for .0625" stainless 304,not 316. for the electrode. I thought tungsten would work better and it does. (lasts longer)
I use water vapor(steam after it heats up.) Stan used water pressurized and routed to the 1/8"npt port on the side flange. I used .75" 304 hex round stock from online metals in oregon. In stans design,The .0625" hole was drilled with a laser, and a .07 chamber was drilled in the combustion chamber side of the water line to accept a .0625 check ball and spring. A "donut" (to vaporise the water) with .010" holes for dispersment fits around the end of the electrode. I bypassed the liquid water routine and vaporize the water thru an external solenoid attached to the side port. I recycle ALL of the exhaust and reform water vapor and carbon dioxide into methane.the nox and hydrogen form syngas,being started with gasoline or natgas(cng)after warming up,the water vapor and co2 are the primary movers. The voltage starts out at >45kv according to stans notes,so I got my 60kv coils(one for each injector)at summittracing.com for >28$ea. I originally had the tapered waveguide in the combustion end of things,but drilled it out along with the corresponding waveguide for a strait port and a surrounding stainless cathode. This works much better for proper flow with the steam/mist approach.
 The drawing on the end is not a andreha puharich design. Ill do a little more research and let you know.  I have the same one in my archives. Ill post the original puharic design. Stan refered to puharic in his last patent description as a source.   artinvegas..

Jeff Nading

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #95, on July 24th, 2012, 07:15 PM »
Quote from artinvegas on July 24th, 2012, 05:11 PM
Quote from H2oplasmaplug on September 24th, 2011, 10:07 PM
lets see if this works. this is meyers spark plug you can see how the inner connection has a long rod about an inch and a half i think its gonna be made out of either nickle tungsten or cobalt. the outer case could look like its either titanium or light tungsten. it could be made of stainless with low chromium. i made my casing out of stainless 600 grade called inconel. its very high nickle content. i did make them out of aluminum so i could get to hold one and then i made one out of brass and stainless 304.


this shows the injector port for the water spark plug (wsp)

this is the dc plasma i was using when i first started.

here is one of meyers water spark plugs on his dune buggy you can see there is only one fuel inlet.

here you can see meyers holding his water spark plug in his hand and there is a hole in the middle of the outlet that is between 1/16 and 3/16

here is just another pic of the same thing from a little futher back

here is one of meyers designs he did.



last post is used for high voltage on a scope. my buddy stone sent that to me.

i think this is paharishs water spark plug
I built some steam injectors like stans.
I have the original water injection diagrams from stan.
The dielectric core is made from macor,a corning product. very pricey,about 80bucks for a 12" x .5" piece of round stock.
Stan called for .0625" stainless 304,not 316. for the electrode. I thought tungsten would work better and it does. (lasts longer)
I use water vapor(steam after it heats up.) Stan used water pressurized and routed to the 1/8"npt port on the side flange. I used .75" 304 hex round stock from online metals in oregon. In stans design,The .0625" hole was drilled with a laser, and a .07 chamber was drilled in the combustion chamber side of the water line to accept a .0625 check ball and spring. A "donut" (to vaporise the water) with .010" holes for dispersment fits around the end of the electrode. I bypassed the liquid water routine and vaporize the water thru an external solenoid attached to the side port. I recycle ALL of the exhaust and reform water vapor and carbon dioxide into methane.the nox and hydrogen form syngas,being started with gasoline or natgas(cng)after warming up,the water vapor and co2 are the primary movers. The voltage starts out at >45kv according to stans notes,so I got my 60kv coils(one for each injector)at summittracing.com for >28$ea. I originally had the tapered waveguide in the combustion end of things,but drilled it out along with the corresponding waveguide for a strait port and a surrounding stainless cathode. This works much better for proper flow with the steam/mist approach.
 The drawing on the end is not a andreha puharich design. Ill do a little more research and let you know.  I have the same one in my archives. Ill post the original puharic design. Stan refered to puharic in his last patent description as a source.   artinvegas..
I want to thank you Art , truly remarkable information you have posted here for us, we really appreciate what you are doing here, Jeff.:D:P:cool:


~Russ

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #96, on July 25th, 2012, 04:34 AM »
Quote from artinvegas on July 24th, 2012, 05:11 PM
Quote from H2oplasmaplug on September 24th, 2011, 10:07 PM
lets see if this works. this is meyers spark plug you can see how the inner connection has a long rod about an inch and a half i think its gonna be made out of either nickle tungsten or cobalt. the outer case could look like its either titanium or light tungsten. it could be made of stainless with low chromium. i made my casing out of stainless 600 grade called inconel. its very high nickle content. i did make them out of aluminum so i could get to hold one and then i made one out of brass and stainless 304.


this shows the injector port for the water spark plug (wsp)

this is the dc plasma i was using when i first started.

here is one of meyers water spark plugs on his dune buggy you can see there is only one fuel inlet.

here you can see meyers holding his water spark plug in his hand and there is a hole in the middle of the outlet that is between 1/16 and 3/16

here is just another pic of the same thing from a little futher back

here is one of meyers designs he did.



last post is used for high voltage on a scope. my buddy stone sent that to me.

i think this is paharishs water spark plug
I built some steam injectors like stans.
I have the original water injection diagrams from stan.
The dielectric core is made from macor,a corning product. very pricey,about 80bucks for a 12" x .5" piece of round stock.
Stan called for .0625" stainless 304,not 316. for the electrode. I thought tungsten would work better and it does. (lasts longer)
I use water vapor(steam after it heats up.) Stan used water pressurized and routed to the 1/8"npt port on the side flange. I used .75" 304 hex round stock from online metals in oregon. In stans design,The .0625" hole was drilled with a laser, and a .07 chamber was drilled in the combustion chamber side of the water line to accept a .0625 check ball and spring. A "donut" (to vaporise the water) with .010" holes for dispersment fits around the end of the electrode. I bypassed the liquid water routine and vaporize the water thru an external solenoid attached to the side port. I recycle ALL of the exhaust and reform water vapor and carbon dioxide into methane.the nox and hydrogen form syngas,being started with gasoline or natgas(cng)after warming up,the water vapor and co2 are the primary movers. The voltage starts out at >45kv according to stans notes,so I got my 60kv coils(one for each injector)at summittracing.com for >28$ea. I originally had the tapered waveguide in the combustion end of things,but drilled it out along with the corresponding waveguide for a strait port and a surrounding stainless cathode. This works much better for proper flow with the steam/mist approach.
 The drawing on the end is not a andreha puharich design. Ill do a little more research and let you know.  I have the same one in my archives. Ill post the original puharic design. Stan refered to puharic in his last patent description as a source.   artinvegas..
thank you art for the information.

you also may want to look over these threads and add to them as you see fit.

:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=552

and:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=536

Thanks Art for adding to the forums!

~Russ


pauljohnmartin16

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #98, on July 28th, 2012, 09:17 AM »Last edited on July 28th, 2012, 09:21 AM by pauljohnmartin16
i can get 12kv from two microwave oven transformers some microwave diodes and caps most of which i have scrounged foc. if you email me i will try and find the details. its easy i use it for my tesla coil.
Quote from H2oplasmaplug on September 24th, 2011, 08:41 AM
Hi everyone. Lol russ has asked I join the forum a long time ago and I think he is right it's long over due. My main focus was designing different styles of cells at first I noticed no one was really doing any water spark plug expariements. So I have built a few spark plug casings out of farious different materials. I have been injecting water threw a resistorless spark plug first with a dc plasma generator which DOES NOT burn water. It only reflects the light off the water drops and that makes it look like it's burning.

I was on skype one night with YouTube user name irondmax. Check out his channel a lot of cool Meyers replications. So I told him is there a way to get more voltage out of this plasma generator. He said do I have a microwave transformer and I did. So I hooked that up to the spark plug and actually burned steam. Here is the video. WARNING if you replicate this and expariment with the microwave transformer you will be subjecting your self with RADIATION. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mZYllnDmLg you can also see the other work I did with the dc plasma generator. Also I have several different designs from others and I have taking hundreds of pictures of Meyers videos so I will share all the designs as soon as I get a chance this weekend.

So the microwave transformer gave me 2000v. Now I want to get 10kv to 20kv. Possibly up to 40 kv. One of my YouTube subscribers suggested I use a neon transformer with a tesla coil to get 10kv to 100kv. My problem is I don't know enough about circuitry to be able to build the thing properly not to mention I have waisted thousands of dollars on equipment for this stuff that i didnt have and just to have them break or become obselete. I am wondering if anyone wants to help out. I don't care if you or I do the expariments I would love to do them because i have gone this far. But that doesnt matter.

Does anyone already have a neon transformer with a tesla coil that would either like to do a few expariments and show them on youTube. Or would be willing to donate it so I can finish my expariments.  If not you will need to get a steamer like I am using to inject the water in the hv field. The water will dissociate easier in a hotter state and the water droplets are very fine. It's just about getting that right burn.
Does anyone know how to do autocad so I can work with them to describe how the water spark plug is actually build. That way there can be a 3D model made for it.
On another post a guy is talking about Macor plastic great find. That will make everything so much easier. I have made alot of friends in every material needs for these projects. I will track some down so I can buy a small bit maybe 8 feet. That will be enough for experimenting and to build the water spark plugs when it's perfected.

All and any help is greatly appreciated. Russ your doing a beautiful job with the Epg I think it's almost testing time buddy. Your gonna have that rpg wrapped in no time. Peace man much love.

http://www.capturedlightning.org/hot-streamer/greg/motpic.htm
here is the link
Quote from pauljohnmartin16 on July 28th, 2012, 09:17 AM
i can get 12kv from two microwave oven transformers some microwave diodes and caps most of which i have scrounged foc. if you email me i will try and find the details. its easy i use it for my tesla coil.
Quote from H2oplasmaplug on September 24th, 2011, 08:41 AM
Hi everyone. Lol russ has asked I join the forum a long time ago and I think he is right it's long over due. My main focus was designing different styles of cells at first I noticed no one was really doing any water spark plug expariements. So I have built a few spark plug casings out of farious different materials. I have been injecting water threw a resistorless spark plug first with a dc plasma generator which DOES NOT burn water. It only reflects the light off the water drops and that makes it look like it's burning.

I was on skype one night with YouTube user name irondmax. Check out his channel a lot of cool Meyers replications. So I told him is there a way to get more voltage out of this plasma generator. He said do I have a microwave transformer and I did. So I hooked that up to the spark plug and actually burned steam. Here is the video. WARNING if you replicate this and expariment with the microwave transformer you will be subjecting your self with RADIATION. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mZYllnDmLg you can also see the other work I did with the dc plasma generator. Also I have several different designs from others and I have taking hundreds of pictures of Meyers videos so I will share all the designs as soon as I get a chance this weekend.

So the microwave transformer gave me 2000v. Now I want to get 10kv to 20kv. Possibly up to 40 kv. One of my YouTube subscribers suggested I use a neon transformer with a tesla coil to get 10kv to 100kv. My problem is I don't know enough about circuitry to be able to build the thing properly not to mention I have waisted thousands of dollars on equipment for this stuff that i didnt have and just to have them break or become obselete. I am wondering if anyone wants to help out. I don't care if you or I do the expariments I would love to do them because i have gone this far. But that doesnt matter.

Does anyone already have a neon transformer with a tesla coil that would either like to do a few expariments and show them on youTube. Or would be willing to donate it so I can finish my expariments.  If not you will need to get a steamer like I am using to inject the water in the hv field. The water will dissociate easier in a hotter state and the water droplets are very fine. It's just about getting that right burn.
Does anyone know how to do autocad so I can work with them to describe how the water spark plug is actually build. That way there can be a 3D model made for it.
On another post a guy is talking about Macor plastic great find. That will make everything so much easier. I have made alot of friends in every material needs for these projects. I will track some down so I can buy a small bit maybe 8 feet. That will be enough for experimenting and to build the water spark plugs when it's perfected.

All and any help is greatly appreciated. Russ your doing a beautiful job with the Epg I think it's almost testing time buddy. Your gonna have that rpg wrapped in no time. Peace man much love.

Hydrocars

Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #99, on September 5th, 2012, 07:28 PM »Last edited on September 6th, 2012, 05:48 PM by Hydrocars
First, Stan made it very Clear ((((125 Pound Pressure!))) what that means I do not know! But I do know that the compression of his Volks was 125 Lbs pressure with good rings in the cylinder!..

Second, (THE FITTING) on the side of stans injector is (NOT CLEAR) ---- IT MAY BE A CHECK VALVE!! Or, It may be a Bust valve!

Third! Stan used a INJECTOR like I shown in the photo, JUST LIKE A CAR USES and he Piped this to his device between the plug and Head! you know the aluminum piece, That shinny thing between the plug and engine is NOT the injector!

Fourth, THERE IS STUFF MISSING. THE BLOCK OF INJECTORS, PIPED TO THE ALUMINUM EXTENSION has something that could be missing there.

Fifth, We do not know what the Injector was connected to!

Sixth, We do not know what went threw the injector, WATER or HHO.

Seventh, Sparks may work with GOTOLUCS design IF the water does not Conduct, this could lead to positive results.

EIGHT, THE ENGINE MAY HAVE BEEN A STEAM ENGINE< THE WATER DROPLET MAY HAVE BEEN CONVERTED DIRECTLY INTO STEAM USING GOTOLUC.

NINTH, THE INJECTOR COULD HAVE BEEN SUPPLIED WITH 125lb Pressure of HHO. ?

TENTH,,, NOBODY IS TELLING US ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ELEVENTH, SOMEONE IS HOLDING OUT< I GAURENTEE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I THINK STAN STUFF WAS SOLD DIRT CHEAP AT A REALESATE AUCTION, AND I THINK YOU OR I WAS NOT TOLD ABOUT IT. I DONT THINK IT SOLD FOR VERY MUCH AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I THINK SOMEONE IS NOT SHOWING EVERYTHING, I'M A BIT AGRAVATED WITH THIS. WHY IS IT RUSS CAN GET GOOD PHOTOS BUT WHEN I WANT ONE I CANT HAVE IT?

HEY RUSS, HOW ABOUT A PHOTO OF THAT BLUE THING ON THE SIDE OF STAND INJECTOR? WHY CANT WE SEE THE COMPLETE SYSTEM?

ALSO RUSS, WHAT IS THE 125 PRESSUR TALKED ABOUT, WHAT DOES THAT REFERE TOO?

BESIDES THIS POINT,,,


GOTOLUC



WHY CANT WE MAKE A STEAM ENGINE USING WHY I POSTED WITH GOTOLUCS CIRCUIT.

WHY CANT WE FIND A MINATURE CHECK VALVE FOR MY PROJECT, HOW CAN WE MAKE OUR OWN... .


HEY RUSS, HOW DO YOU PLAN ON MAKING YOUR SMALL CHECK VALVE ON YOUR REPLICATION? ? ??

GOOD DAY, HYDROCARS AKA BRIAN COATS

Here are some more photos, I cant do this myself due to money problems. I cant afford the tools Needed to make the proper check valve. Can someone out there that has the knowhow do it for me to help us get this going?