Water spark plug replication.

Hydrocars

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #100, on September 6th, 2012, 05:52 PM »Last edited on September 6th, 2012, 09:51 PM by Hydrocars
I NEED A CHECK VALVE THAT I CAN SCREW INTO THE SIDE OF THIS ALUMINUM ACCEPTOR. It should be (Around) 1/4 Threads it should be a Steel ball valve with a spring. It should seat with a Seated DRill bit. I have No Taps Dies or Bits, This will cost me 300+ Us dollars. Can any machinest out there help out? All I want is a check valve that is (Small) being a Ball bearing seat, and works. (It does not have to work for long, just long enough for test purposes!>

I am tempted to buy a China set and try to make my own, I fear I will make a big mess. I am no machinest!

We need to get on this, we need to PUSH for this to get somewhere. We are all close I think. Either stan used high pressure HHO or water drop and gotoluc. But I have a Coil configeration that fires 2wich! (wink.) Gotoluc circuit would surlu vaporize something doing that ehh.. I have everything I need,

That check valve is really holding me back!


https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBrianCoats?feature=mhee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E16hzxGnE9A&feature=plcp

Jeff Nading

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #101, on September 6th, 2012, 08:16 PM »
Quote from Hydrocars on September 6th, 2012, 05:52 PM
I NEED A CHECK VALVE THAT I CAN SCREW INTO THE SIDE OF THIS ALUMINUM ACCEPTOR. It should be (Around) 1/4 Threads it should be a Steel ball valve with a spring. It should seat with a Seated DRill bit. I have No Taps Dies or Bits, This will cost me 300+ Us dollars. Can any machinest out there help out? All I want is a check valve that is (Small) being a Ball bearing seat, and works. (It does not have to work for long, just long enough for test purposes!>

I am tempted to buy a China set and try to make my own, I fear I will make a big mess. I am no machinest!

We need to get on this, we need to PUSH for this to get somewhere. We are all close I think. Either stan used high pressure HHO or water drop and gotoluc. But I have a Coil configeration that fires 2wich! (wink.) Gotoluc circuit would surlu vaporize something doing that ehh.. I have everything I need,

That check valve is really holding me back!
Just an idea, you could use a grease zerk as a check valve, has just what you need.:D


securesupplies

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #103, on September 15th, 2012, 12:08 PM »
Quote from Hydrocars on September 6th, 2012, 05:52 PM
I NEED A CHECK VALVE THAT I CAN SCREW INTO THE SIDE OF THIS ALUMINUM ACCEPTOR. It should be (Around) 1/4 Threads it should be a Steel ball valve with a spring. It should seat with a Seated DRill bit. I have No Taps Dies or Bits, This will cost me 300+ Us dollars. Can any machinest out there help out? All I want is a check valve that is (Small) being a Ball bearing seat, and works. (It does not have to work for long, just long enough for test purposes!>

I am tempted to buy a China set and try to make my own, I fear I will make a big mess. I am no machinest!

We need to get on this, we need to PUSH for this to get somewhere. We are all close I think. Either stan used high pressure HHO or water drop and gotoluc. But I have a Coil configeration that fires 2wich! (wink.) Gotoluc circuit would surlu vaporize something doing that ehh.. I have everything I need,

That check valve is really holding me back!


https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBrianCoats?feature=mhee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E16hzxGnE9A&feature=plcp
Try using a greese nipple

typ for ball joint etc



phil

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #104, on September 15th, 2012, 12:44 PM »Last edited on September 15th, 2012, 12:53 PM by phil
Quote from Hydrocars on September 6th, 2012, 05:52 PM
I NEED A CHECK VALVE THAT I CAN SCREW INTO THE SIDE OF THIS ALUMINUM ACCEPTOR. It should be (Around) 1/4 Threads it should be a Steel ball valve with a spring. It should seat with a Seated DRill bit. I have No Taps Dies or Bits, This will cost me 300+ Us dollars. Can any machinest out there help out? All I want is a check valve that is (Small) being a Ball bearing seat, and works. (It does not have to work for long, just long enough for test purposes!>

I am tempted to buy a China set and try to make my own, I fear I will make a big mess. I am no machinest!

We need to get on this, we need to PUSH for this to get somewhere. We are all close I think. Either stan used high pressure HHO or water drop and gotoluc. But I have a Coil configeration that fires 2wich! (wink.) Gotoluc circuit would surlu vaporize something doing that ehh.. I have everything I need,

That check valve is really holding me back!


https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBrianCoats?feature=mhee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E16hzxGnE9A&feature=plcp
I found some small check valves somewhere online , ill have a look around and see if i can find the link. They are out there somewhere.


the 125 psi pressure thing, ive thought about it too in the past. Do we need to pressurize to 125 psi or will the engine vacuum cause the same effect as pressurizing by suction.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HOKE-6133F4S-STAINLESS-STEEL-CHECK-VALVE-2-WAY-1-4-FPT-6000-PSI-/120873130061?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BIEW%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D400289832434%26ps%3D54
Quote from Hydrocars on September 6th, 2012, 05:52 PM
I NEED A CHECK VALVE THAT I CAN SCREW INTO THE SIDE OF THIS ALUMINUM ACCEPTOR. It should be (Around) 1/4 Threads it should be a Steel ball valve with a spring. It should seat with a Seated DRill bit. I have No Taps Dies or Bits, This will cost me 300+ Us dollars. Can any machinest out there help out? All I want is a check valve that is (Small) being a Ball bearing seat, and works. (It does not have to work for long, just long enough for test purposes!>

I am tempted to buy a China set and try to make my own, I fear I will make a big mess. I am no machinest!

We need to get on this, we need to PUSH for this to get somewhere. We are all close I think. Either stan used high pressure HHO or water drop and gotoluc. But I have a Coil configeration that fires 2wich! (wink.) Gotoluc circuit would surlu vaporize something doing that ehh.. I have everything I need,

That check valve is really holding me back!


https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBrianCoats?feature=mhee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E16hzxGnE9A&feature=plcp
http://www.machinebuilding.net/p/p3290.htm

symanuk

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #105, on September 15th, 2012, 11:45 PM »
One thing I have never really understood - perhaps someone can explain to me.

The injector calls for non-combustible exhaust gases to be fed back into the engine to control the burn rate (equalise it with that of gasoline).

If the engine is operating purely on water then the only exhaust matter will be water vapour? Where is the non-combustible gas coming from?  The only explanation I can get to in my head is that the engine continues to burn a small amount of something which produces exhaust fumes.

Is it just me or does this appear to be a logical inconsistency with the design?

Badger

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #106, on September 19th, 2012, 09:36 AM »
Artinvegas,
You're bringing a lot of great information to the forum, thank you!  Have you done any testing or have results from the injectors you made?  I'd like to hear what stage you're in with the injectors and also the rotary engine you're working on.  Thanks!

Jeff Nading

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #107, on September 27th, 2012, 06:22 AM »
Quote from Badger on September 19th, 2012, 09:36 AM
Artinvegas,
You're bringing a lot of great information to the forum, thank you!  Have you done any testing or have results from the injectors you made?  I'd like to hear what stage you're in with the injectors and also the rotary engine you're working on.  Thanks!
Hi Badger, I think Art has investor's so he might not be able to tell us anymore than he already has,Jeff.:D

Matt Watts

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #108, on September 27th, 2012, 06:19 PM »
Quote from symanuk on September 15th, 2012, 11:45 PM
The injector calls for non-combustible exhaust gases to be fed back into the engine to control the burn rate (equalise it with that of gasoline).
If I had to guess, I would say nitrogen from the air.  So...  Maybe the chamber gets some air and then just recirculates it...?

If you manage to blow a hole in the top of the piston, you'll know right away you need to mix something in there to control the burn rate.


fgunsmoke

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #109, on September 27th, 2012, 07:40 PM »
Quote from Bananaphonehome on September 26th, 2011, 06:32 AM


think that's what freethisone was referring to.



[I was making hydrogen & oxygen in my outfit. A hose went to a bubbler then to can (tuna- 3 1/4 by 1 1/4 ) that had water and a few drops of hand soap. The hose in the can was making some nice bubbles that I was lighting with a torch. Nice bang from bubbles did this for a while but  then the  whole top of water ignited with no bang. I got a 10 inch flame - I`m in my house -downstairs- my first thing was to put the flame out. found a lid and slid it over top of can--fire is out.  I should of timed it for a burn rate. I tried to repeat what I done but no fire on water. I know it can be done but what did I do right that day?  fgunsmoke

Jeff Nading

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #110, on September 27th, 2012, 08:06 PM »
Quote from fgunsmoke on September 27th, 2012, 07:40 PM
Quote from Bananaphonehome on September 26th, 2011, 06:32 AM


think that's what freethisone was referring to.



[I was making hydrogen & oxygen in my outfit. A hose went to a bubbler then to can (tuna- 3 1/4 by 1 1/4 ) that had water and a few drops of hand soap. The hose in the can was making some nice bubbles that I was lighting with a torch. Nice bang from bubbles did this for a while but  then the  whole top of water ignited with no bang. I got a 10 inch flame - I`m in my house -downstairs- my first thing was to put the flame out. found a lid and slid it over top of can--fire is out.  I should of timed it for a burn rate. I tried to repeat what I done but no fire on water. I know it can be done but what did I do right that day?  fgunsmoke
Interesting.:D

Matt Watts

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #111, on September 27th, 2012, 08:27 PM »Last edited on September 27th, 2012, 08:29 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from fgunsmoke on September 27th, 2012, 07:40 PM
I know it can be done but what did I do right that day?
Hydrogen will burn in air much differently than true HHO by itself which is already at a perfect stoichiometric ratio.  Remember Russ' balloon bursting videos--burning the hair off his arms?  If that same amount of HHO was in an evacuated cardboard tube, there wouldn't be any Russ right now.

I'm wondering if somehow you got things out of balance and produced more Hydrogen than the normal ratio.  Pretty neat trick if I do say so myself.  Was you by chance pulling the gas off the top?  Maybe the Hydrogen and Oxygen is separating due to specific gravity.

fgunsmoke

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #112, on October 4th, 2012, 06:02 PM »
Quote from Dog-One on September 27th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Quote from fgunsmoke on September 27th, 2012, 07:40 PM
I know it can be done but what did I do right that day?
Hydrogen will burn in air much differently than true HHO by itself which is already at a perfect stoichiometric ratio.  Remember Russ' balloon bursting videos--burning the hair off his arms?  If that same amount of HHO was in an evacuated cardboard tube, there wouldn't be any Russ right now.

I'm wondering if somehow you got things out of balance and produced more Hydrogen than the normal ratio.  Pretty neat trick if I do say so myself.  Was you by chance pulling the gas off the top?  Maybe the Hydrogen and Oxygen is separating due to specific gravity.
I`m thinking maybe the water was changed from something in the soap. The container
of soap says anionic and/or nonionic surfactants. The hose was in about 2 or 3 oz. of water. I took my unit outside the house -to make the wife happy- but still no fire on the water. Had my cannon out there - poured some soap down barrel and did light the bubbles when  they came to the end of barrel. Forgot my ear plugs. Ears did ring for awhile.  Wind came up and could not light torch. Quit for the day.    - My hydrogen unit was working at 3-4 amps single cell did climb higher later before  I quit.  I`ll try again later.  fgunsmoke

securesupplies

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #113, on February 6th, 2013, 03:43 AM »
Hi

This section should be on 3d printer long ago
if you have skills to convert & post 3d Printer files for the injector parts

please post here

I believe t will help progress participants and new comers replications

H2oplasmaplug

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #114, on February 6th, 2013, 06:32 AM »
Russ
I have recently made friends with a person that has a manufacturing plant in China. This man has many manufacturing connections in China which that is a very difficult thing to find. I have been trying to contact Russ through an app we both use and he won't reply. I would like to see what he would like to do to take an order from everyone that wants wsp's. I am thinking we complie a list of people that want them and after that I will be selling them. Part of the profits will go to Russ so he always has more donation money to do what ever projects he wants.

I have been trying to finish a few projects and inventions latly but life keeps getting in the way. There will be a few different products going on the site. So are we good to somehow find out how many everyone wants that way we can figure out how much it will cost to get them made. This way we can get a quote. Russ contact me please.

Jeff Nading

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #115, on February 7th, 2013, 06:19 AM »
Quote from H2oplasmaplug on February 6th, 2013, 06:32 AM
Russ
I have recently made friends with a person that has a manufacturing plant in China. This man has many manufacturing connections in China which that is a very difficult thing to find. I have been trying to contact Russ through an app we both use and he won't reply. I would like to see what he would like to do to take an order from everyone that wants wsp's. I am thinking we complie a list of people that want them and after that I will be selling them. Part of the profits will go to Russ so he always has more donation money to do what ever projects he wants.

I have been trying to finish a few projects and inventions latly but life keeps getting in the way. There will be a few different products going on the site. So are we good to somehow find out how many everyone wants that way we can figure out how much it will cost to get them made. This way we can get a quote. Russ contact me please.
Hi Matt, always good to have that kind of connection. I know one thing we can't find is SS triple insulated wire, like what Stan used and the type insulation that they would use for electric motor wire. Don't know the gauge, Russ shows some of it in one of his videos.

Something I am having a hard time finding is, insulated nichrome wire for heating elements,# 31 AWG. I can find non-insulated nichrome wire but not insulated wire. Also 5/8" diameter peek plastic, it's very expensive. If I could find it for less, this would be wonderful.

BTW, what is WSP ?

Well thanks for posting and offering your China connection, :cool::D:PJeff.

H2oplasmaplug

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #116, on February 7th, 2013, 06:39 AM »
You can have any wire made.  I inquired about blue varnished wire and they said minimum order had to be 5k. They said the same applies to ss wire. I feel it is most important to get the water spark plugs (WSP) in the hands of the people. There are many different experiments that can be conducted with them. I know Russ is usually cool with this stuff. I have been waiting to be able to buy some my self and it has yet to happen so I will keep searching till I find a manufacturing company that can build these. I think this guy can do it. So I find out in 5 days. If he says yes then I will need to get orders in just so I can know how many he needs to do. This way we can find out cost.

If I can start selling replicas of Meyers work I will put all profits made in to getting the reset of the equipment on the market. Including the wire.

Jeff Nading

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #117, on February 7th, 2013, 06:52 AM »
Quote from H2oplasmaplug on February 7th, 2013, 06:39 AM
You can have any wire made.  I inquired about blue varnished wire and they said minimum order had to be 5k. They said the same applies to ss wire. I feel it is most important to get the water spark plugs (WSP) in the hands of the people. There are many different experiments that can be conducted with them. I know Russ is usually cool with this stuff. I have been waiting to be able to buy some my self and it has yet to happen so I will keep searching till I find a manufacturing company that can build these. I think this guy can do it. So I find out in 5 days. If he says yes then I will need to get orders in just so I can know how many he needs to do. This way we can find out cost.

If I can start selling replicas of Meyers work I will put all profits made in to getting the reset of the equipment on the market. Including the wire.
Thanks for the reply Matt and I should have known what WSP was just couldn't think. Yes, 5K would be a little steep for an individual, but collectively might be an option. Russ I'm sure is very busy, I haven't seen him post in more than a few days. Thanks for posting Matt.:cool::D:P

H2oplasmaplug

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #118, on February 7th, 2013, 07:13 AM »
No problem and don't worry about it. Lol its still earlier. Ya I laughed at the people when they wanted 5k for a spool of wire. But maybe we can get a sample to then and after a few of the spark plugs have been sold it can help pay for the wire. I have a 10k limit on my credit card and I am willing to max it out to see this technology completed. I am sure Russ is busy to. It really bothered me that that guy took Russes donation money and didn't get him some wire. I need to get those sparks and why just do it all on my own. Others need them too. What good is it if only 5 people in the whole world have some. It's a waste. I would prefer to have Russes blessing but either way I need to get them out.
 

~Russ

RE: Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #119, on February 7th, 2013, 11:41 PM »Last edited on February 7th, 2013, 11:45 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from H2oplasmaplug on February 6th, 2013, 06:32 AM
Russ
I have recently made friends with a person that has a manufacturing plant in China. This man has many manufacturing connections in China which that is a very difficult thing to find. I have been trying to contact Russ through an app we both use and he won't reply.
sorry matt. haven't had that app on in a while. including skype.
Quote
I would like to see what he would like to do to take an order from everyone that wants wsp's. I am thinking we complie a list of people that want them and after that I will be selling them. Part of the profits will go to Russ so he always has more donation money to do what ever projects he wants.


I have been trying to finish a few projects and inventions latly but life keeps getting in the way. There will be a few different products going on the site. So are we good to somehow find out how many everyone wants that way we can figure out how much it will cost to get them made. This way we can get a quote. Russ contact me please.
Matt. on the ss wire. one of the people i have been working with is currently setting up an order for the wire. once it is complete he will sell it he stated. so i dont  now much more than that at the moment. he stated it would be weeks or months before he has it.

so ill keep you posted and when he tells me he has it ill let everyone know. i will not be selling it he will be doing all that stuff. so i dont know much more than that.

yes. it is too bad one of my  " friends" did indeed disappear. weather it was intentional or something happened i still don't know.

the last thing i would want you to do is max your credit card out on something that is unproven. i dont need that under my belt. lol.

i can agree that we need to get this project done. as of now here is my status.

momma is 6 months prego. im' putting ALOT more time with the family to take care of the other 2 kid's and momma as she is getting closer to the due date she needs me now than ever. so family is my priority. i'm also really bissy with my volunteering at the church as we are short lighting tech.

theses things are important to me and i have learned alot in the past.

the newborn will be here soon and i will really not get much sleep ( like i do now... lol)

so you can see its going to be a bit before i get restarted where i can focus on the projects... unfortunately this is life and the most important thing is to take it one day a t a time.

any how. this is a group effort and together we will get there... its slow right now... that's just the way it is. some one else can take the torch and carry ti for a bit...  i have 1200 emails in my inbox... just not enough time respond to them all... i don't like that i cant but i don't have a choice...

~Russ


securesupplies

Russ and Other : Water spark plug replication.
« Reply #121, on April 25th, 2013, 01:33 AM »

 Hi Steady as she goes,

Time is going by us all 1 years has turned into 5 and 10 years Already !!!.

we are all progressing areas, Russ has done a amazing job and is really solid with so much on his plate, I am sure we all respect that.  stay the coarse russ as and when you can fantastic composure brother ,

that is the hardest thing to remain calm ,  slow and steady,  

One of the most important things right now along with every thing we are all watching learning adapting and trying to build , is to post quality info.

Many of use are now starting to invest more time money and little buys to help every area we can,

we must =try to share t and re share the info wider, as People like Russ Tony Max and Many others advance their areas and post and repost the industry grows a little bit every day , That right our INdustry!!!

we all do the same so it is now gaining momentum.

Little wins here and there are the most important it may just be wire or a solid agreed measurement

but it all adds up and should be shared and re sposted and backed up.

Where ever possible keep info free and just work fast to be in position to provide parts and co operations.

One Key point is to inspire others to help, and research and document.

For all those reading this <" it is amazing what you have done so far and how much you have learnt,

do not be shy , participate and co operate, it might be a report a search
a downloading asaving or simply sharing your trys and your  making of parts, what ever  it is great.

some times when I look at the views on threads

 I see 1000's of hits and it makes me happy I only hope we all can cooperate and start to come together as more of a industry to cross share cross promote educate and at right time cross supply and distribute, it is coming and coming fast.

Consolidate and Stream line current knowledge

A summary PDF of the best in each  thread should be attempted
to boast new comers with common advanced knowledge.

So if you are a pro at one area attempt it.

Remember greed is the things that has killed this tech

already so do your very best to work fast give energy
to industry to educate and share in the

unlikley event you fall over or wipe out with other lifes demands.

==================================
I will start a website and start to deploy and mirror a lot of info across the board, in the most consolidated way I can

and I will invite vendors and pioneers to  list there products there for sale as site develops   for education as well ,

I will offer what I can make and try to develop what I can to boast participation .

Special Note to What new forums as they first rounds of info being posted is advanced and can be great summaries of where tech is as of April MAy 2013 or forward.

so advance it and share it help people get funding help people get donations help people sell, the world is plenty big enough with demand , what we are lacking is cop operation and strong industries friendships and & interns.

Dan