Thanks, now that's some gas output right there
Can't wait to see the engine running

And here's the extended REM version youtube didn't like...  ;)

/55044407

All the best

ethospete...

Okikdok, thanks

Quote from ethospete on December 6th, 2012, 12:47 PM

And here's the extended REM version youtube didn't like...  ;)

/55044407

All the best

ethospete...

Very cool Pete.

Quote from Lynx on December 6th, 2012, 12:39 PM

Thanks, now that's some gas output right there
Can't wait to see the engine running

Many thanks... Yes, we should definitely have enough now... Next I'll have to measure how much gas output and the current draw...

The systems now got 16 litres of distilled water and 2kg of Ammonium Chloride...

The gas output from cold start was good and it increased as it warmed up... But so did the current draw which is why we now need a heavier supply and cable.

Looking forward to tomorrow and hopefully finally get it running on its own now.

All the best

ethospete...
off topic I know... but here's some interesting information about Hallbach arrars that I think should help with magnetic motors in a similar way to shielded magnets...

How to make Magnetic Halbach Arrays... I reckon if someone knew what they were doing they'd be able to make a self-perpetuating magnetic generator using an array of these as they are very similar to shielded magnets as they are a lot more powerful on one side than the other sides... HINT - TRY THE K2 ARRANGEMENT FIRST!!

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp?p=halbach-arrays

All the best

ethospete...Also, as the song says, 'It's the end of the world as we know it...'  ...and the start of the bright new world as we don't know it yet... lol This is the day that the overall global consciousness shifts from being primarily negative to very slightly positive... and it will then continue to get more and more positive as things begin to unfold. The earth has been in quarantine and the prime directive has stated that before this date there couldn't be any external intervention. After this date intervention is then allowed... but it will only happen when enough people on the planet are ready for full disclosure and want it to happen. Then once that happens we will be given access to incredible new technologies which will completely revolutionise the world and the previous industrial revolution will pale into insignificance... So we will see and even more exciting times ahead for sure...

Quote from ethospete on December 6th, 2012, 02:10 PM

Also, as the song says, 'It's the end of the world as we know it...'  ...and the start of the bright new world as we don't know it yet... lol This is the day that the overall global consciousness shifts from being primarily negative to very slightly positive... and it will then continue to get more and more positive as things begin to unfold. The earth has been in quarantine and the prime directive has stated that before this date there couldn't be any external intervention. After this date intervention is then allowed... but it will only happen when enough people on the planet are ready for full disclosure and want it to happen. Then once that happens we will be given access to incredible new technologies which will completely revolutionise the world and the previous industrial revolution will pale into insignificance... So we will see and even more exciting times ahead for sure...

I think you may be right.  I watched a video the other night of Pat Flanagan coming out in the open saying that he does believe he was Tesla in a past life.  If others that have built working machines now locked in fear come out as well, we should be able to really make progress.  For the moment, I just want so see you driving that water powered car while you wear that cool looking helmet.  hehe :D   And do be careful, because with the volume of HHO you are playing with, I'll hear the whoops from many miles away.  Take your time and think everything through before you connect a single wire or flip a single switch.

Quote from ethospete on December 6th, 2012, 02:10 PM

The gas output from cold start was good and it increased as it warmed up... But so did the current draw which is why we now need a heavier supply and cable.

Looking forward to tomorrow and hopefully finally get it running on its own now.

All the best

ethospete...

Hi Pete, nice progress :)
Uptill now you just have a hose going into the carburator?
And can it build up pressure or volume of HHO then somewhere? I mean, will it accumulate around the carburator and the engine if running at low rpms?

watch that

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/mercedes-ener-g-force-la-auto-show-2012-3714817.html

Enjoy!

Quote from bussi04 on December 7th, 2012, 03:59 AM

watch that

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/mercedes-ener-g-force-la-auto-show-2012-3714817.html

Enjoy!

Does it only require water?
No additives/electrolyzer/catalyst?

Is there an English version available of that article.......? :angel:

Anyway, thanks for sharing

Quote from Lynx on December 7th, 2012, 05:44 AM

Quote from bussi04 on December 7th, 2012, 03:59 AM

watch that

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/mercedes-ener-g-force-la-auto-show-2012-3714817.html

Enjoy!

Does it only require water?
No additives/electrolyzer/catalyst?

Is there an English version available of that article.......? :angel:

Anyway, thanks for sharing

yes, only for water. try to get a google translation ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0wDiOWsifc

Quote from ethospete on December 7th, 2012, 11:55 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0wDiOWsifc

Hot Dog!!!   Water as fuel baby.   Very nice.

Lots you can do from here, you've made it over the summit now Pete.

Oh man, I was watching that video while you were trying to get it started, saying to myself, "Come on, run you dirty bird."

I have got to get my checkbook and get me a cell this weekend for sure now.

Great news Pete, tell the world.

Many thanks...  :)

Yes, I was willing it to work as well...  

I'm busy spreading the word; the video's had 76 views so far and had a meeting with a local journalist last night so hopefully it will be in the local newspaper soon so that should help too.  

All the best

ethospete...

Quote from ethospete on December 8th, 2012, 12:37 PM

Many thanks...  :)

Yes, I was willing it to work as well...  

I'm busy spreading the word; the video's had 76 views so far and had a meeting with a local journalist last night so hopefully it will be in the local newspaper soon so that should help too.  

All the best

ethospete...

That's awesome news, take care Pete

good job pete! the hard work paid off. now how you going to get 100kW in that trunk! lol :) enjoying your success :) ~Russ

Quote from ethospete on December 8th, 2012, 12:37 PM

so hopefully it will be in the local newspaper soon so that should help too.

Yes, its always good to give people the heads up to clear the streets..lol


Enjoy the success Pete ;)

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 8th, 2012, 05:52 PM

good job pete! the hard work paid off. now how you going to get 100kW in that trunk! lol :) enjoying your success :) ~Russ

Many thanks...  :)  I'm relying on you now to finish the EPG unit to power it to make it mobile... or we're going to need one hell of a lot of batteries!!   :)

All the best, ethospete...

Quote from ethospete on December 11th, 2012, 01:37 PM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 8th, 2012, 05:52 PM

good job pete! the hard work paid off. now how you going to get 100kW in that trunk! lol :) enjoying your success :) ~Russ

Many thanks...  :)  I'm relying on you now to finish the EPG unit to power it to make it mobile... or we're going to need one hell of a lot of batteries!!   :)

All the best, ethospete...

If your country has rocky ground and so much electricity at telephonepool hight, then a sliding contact, like with the bumpercars on a fair, could make a small, not further mentioned anymore, but well deserved, and for the greater cause etc., little advantage?

Yes...  :)  In the new year I think we'll try a 10kw gen-set next...  :)))

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!

All the best

ethospete...

Pete.  You make any more progress or did you switch back to your lab coat full time?  Miss ya man.  You need to check in once in a while.

I'm working away on my 5KW genset project.  Slow going, but I think I have the plasma ignition down pat.  Next month is the HHO cell installation provided I'm not taxed to death.  I get this going and maybe it's on to a 15KW Kohler unit.  Have to see whether I can get the wife's endorsement or not.

So anyway, say hey when you can.

Quote from ethospete on October 9th, 2012, 08:01 PM

LET'S BUILD A NEW WATER-POWERED CAR?

Daniel Dingel said that 20 litres per minute was enough to run his car at 70kmh and that it consumed 1 litre of water to drive for one hour.

So my theory is the Punch 110v cell produces up to 20 - 25 litres per minute which should be more then enough:

"55 plate 120v hydrogen hho generator capable of over 20 LPM - 25 lpm max."

http://www.punchhho.com/

(I have no affiliation with them just, as I said, they are the best units I've found so far and they delivered as promised).

So how to run a 120v cell in a car..? - 5000 Watt Continuous/10,000 Watt Peak Power Inverter - http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-...96706.html

My theory is that 5kw @ 120v should be enough power to run the Punch cell from a 12v supply, albeit with a pretty heavy current draw, so I will run it from some additional heavy duty truck batteries. (5000 Watt inverter draws 417 Amps from the 12 V supply (Battery).



Add an electrolyte solution of Ammonium Chloride as it is meant to work just as well as KOH which is normally used but without causing any heat as most units running on KOH have a problem with over heating after the unit has been running for a while and it also helps to reduce scale buildup.

Obviously the above setup is far from ideal but hopefully will give 'proof of concept' that it is possible to run a car on ordinary tap water. Once it is up and running, will then need to add some additional heavy duty alternators to cope with the heavy current draw.

Last hurdle I envisage is negating the waste spark - I've seen one way of doing it by adding a hall-effect sensor and magnet on the camshaft to effectively make a new ignition timing system... but I am still thinking that there has to be a simpler way..?

Any additional thoughts, ideas or input gratefully received...  

Russ is already running the pulse-motor build-off - so how about also running a water-powered car build-off based on the above spec...? Any takers...?  

All the best

ethospete...

I believe I read somewhere that the timing was moved to the opposite in the same amount of degrees it was in the Petro setting. In other words, if it was 8 degrees retard then advance it 8 degrees advance meaning 16 total degrees from original setting. I believe this was actually because the exhaust stroke fire but not sure. The way it was explain to me that on the downward stroke of the exhaust was when you wanted the Hydrogen to fire. This is what i gathered from this and you need to adjust the spark plugs…cut the threaded rings on edge to dome over the electrode after you have drilled and placed a domed screw into the electrode. You will need a near zero friction oil…..Royal Purple or amsoil should suffice at least at first….I am still working on the magnetic ferro for lubricant.

NIce JUst looked over this again Well done and  where is the next one!