Stephen Meyer Is Back ?

~Russ

Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« on July 24th, 2012, 03:49 AM »
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At www.HydrogenDonations.com, we are committed in bringing Stanley Meyer's dream to reality. Stanley Meyer's twin brother, Stephen Meyer, brings over 30 years of experience with hydrogen to our group. Stephen Meyer worked side by side with Stanley Meyer to develop hydrogen production by using frequencies at very low currents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwWCDkW6d9M&feature=player_embedded

now that's interesting...



securesupplies

Welcome Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #2, on July 24th, 2012, 07:48 AM »
Welcome Back Stephen

I would like to extend a welcome to Stephen Meyer
 as I know he will visit these pages.

This open source  Forum is a group of
Skilled educated people with a like interest which found each other over many years and formed a strong common knowledge of
Yours and Stans Amazing achievements and techniques enough so to rebuild alot of it pretty close to exact to example and show others.

We are here to serve you and your team

call on us and use this forum of the strongest Meyers suporters on the planet to spread the word and cement the legacy of Knowledge sharing to our
trades people globally.

Go get 'em Stephen.

Dan.Phuket

Jeff Nading

RE: Welcome Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #3, on July 24th, 2012, 07:54 AM »Last edited on July 24th, 2012, 02:26 PM by Jeff Nading
Quote from securesupplies on July 24th, 2012, 07:48 AM
Welcome Back Stephen

I would like to extend a welcome to Stephen Meyer
 as I know he will visit these pages.

This open source  Forum is a group of
Skilled educated people with a like interest which found each other over many years and formed a strong common knowledge of
Yours and Stans Amazing achievements and techniques enough so to rebuild alot of it pretty close to exact to example and show others.

We are here to serve you and your team

call on us and use this forum of the strongest Meyers suporters on the planet to spread the word and cement the legacy of Knowledge sharing to our
trades people globally.

Go get 'em Stephen.

Dan.Phuket
Good words Dan.:D If it is he?

Farrah Day

RE: Welcome Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #4, on July 24th, 2012, 12:50 PM »
Stephen Meyer is back then, eh!  Wonder where he's been all this time? Not busy getting rich, that's for sure. :s

Not really wanting to be the first negative post... but I will, that has got to be one of the most unprofessional videos I've seen. And what the heck is going on with the audio? Sounds like it was filmed at a geese farm!

I see absolutely nothing to get excited about here, especially given the first thing they are doing is asking for donations. CAUTION is key here. Remember Fast Freddy and his antics - he relieved a lot of people of their money before he was outed for the fraud he was. If they too go on to play the religion card, then alarm bells should start ringing.

Please, please, please, before you decide to throw any money at this let them at least prove themselves, because - Stephen Meyer or not - ultimately they may know no more about the workings of Stan's WFC devices than you or I.

Just being realistic.

Jeff Nading

RE: Welcome Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #5, on July 24th, 2012, 02:25 PM »
Quote from Farrah Day on July 24th, 2012, 12:50 PM
Stephen Meyer is back then, eh!  Wonder where he's been all this time? Not busy getting rich, that's for sure. :s

Not really wanting to be the first negative post... but I will, that has got to be one of the most unprofessional videos I've seen. And what the heck is going on with the audio? Sounds like it was filmed at a geese farm!

I see absolutely nothing to get excited about here, especially given the first thing they are doing is asking for donations. CAUTION is key here. Remember Fast Freddy and his antics - he relieved a lot of people of their money before he was outed for the fraud he was. If they too go on to play the religion card, then alarm bells should start ringing.

Please, please, please, before you decide to throw any money at this let them at least prove themselves, because - Stephen Meyer or not - ultimately they may know no more about the workings of Stan's WFC devices than you or I.

Just being realistic.
Well, I'm glad you were the first to flag this, I for one will say he does not look like Stephen Meyer's, CAUTION-CAUTION-CAUTION,:huh::huh::huh::dodgy::angel:

firepinto

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #6, on July 24th, 2012, 03:12 PM »
It is hard to tell if that really is Stephen.  I'm skeptical about the donation thing too.  If it is really him he would make a bigger difference if he would work with us in an open source manner.  Maybe then people would be more willing to donate to their cause.

Nate

carbidetip

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #7, on July 24th, 2012, 03:20 PM »Last edited on July 24th, 2012, 03:24 PM by carbidetip
One question. Why didn't Stephen continue Stands work? Last I heard he was trying to sell hydrogen refueling stations. Now I'm assuming HHO for diesel. What's next? HHO welders?

Jeff Nading

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #8, on July 24th, 2012, 03:50 PM »
Quote from firepinto on July 24th, 2012, 03:12 PM
It is hard to tell if that really is Stephen.  I'm skeptical about the donation thing too.  If it is really him he would make a bigger difference if he would work with us in an open source manner.  Maybe then people would be more willing to donate to their cause.

Nate
I agree Nate.

gpssonar

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #9, on July 24th, 2012, 04:26 PM »Last edited on July 24th, 2012, 05:47 PM by gpssonar
Last i heard he was sick and unable to talk on the phone. I have always wondered why none of the people involved with Stan has never tried to live out his dream. You would think his sons, Stephen, and his machinists the people that worked close to him would have at least have something to say, But none of these people has spoke out in any way what so evere since his death. If it had been my dad i would have lived out his dream and hard work come hell or high water if i had worked close to him on something like this.

KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: Welcome Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #10, on July 24th, 2012, 04:36 PM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on July 24th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Quote from Farrah Day on July 24th, 2012, 12:50 PM
Stephen Meyer is back then, eh!  Wonder where he's been all this time? Not busy getting rich, that's for sure. :s

Not really wanting to be the first negative post... but I will, that has got to be one of the most unprofessional videos I've seen. And what the heck is going on with the audio? Sounds like it was filmed at a geese farm!

I see absolutely nothing to get excited about here, especially given the first thing they are doing is asking for donations. CAUTION is key here. Remember Fast Freddy and his antics - he relieved a lot of people of their money before he was outed for the fraud he was. If they too go on to play the religion card, then alarm bells should start ringing.

Please, please, please, before you decide to throw any money at this let them at least prove themselves, because - Stephen Meyer or not - ultimately they may know no more about the workings of Stan's WFC devices than you or I.

Just being realistic.
Well, I'm glad you were the first to flag this, I for one will say he does not look like Stephen Meyer's, CAUTION-CAUTION-CAUTION,:huh::huh::huh::dodgy::angel:
I tried to listen to a Stephen Meyers interview once. He just blabbled on for a whole hour about his and his brother life in the army and stuff. It was quite disappointing

~Russ

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #11, on July 25th, 2012, 12:22 AM »Last edited on July 25th, 2012, 01:23 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
All, grate answers , the good bad and ugly.

as Dan stated i also welcome Steven,

i also think that one should not put any money in directions that seem fishy.  

the information i passed along was to inform and one will need to do there own research.

but i also agree that if he wants stans deem to  live on, we must share the nonage and open and free so we can carry it on.

i guess time will tell and if enough people email them and tell them about what we are doing and the people that are here...

 mabey something will happen?

~Russ

adys15

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #12, on July 25th, 2012, 03:31 AM »Last edited on July 25th, 2012, 03:53 AM by adys15
Common guys you are too sceptical...when you saw stephen last time ?in the video...new energy sources i presume,people get old..i atached a shot from that video and the recent one...i think its the same person :look at his nouse,and the line of he's cheek aroun the mouth...the only difference is that it is much older now...
and in another picture
Try to listen to his voice from minute 1:50 ignoring the distorsions and try to listen to his voice from the older video min 1:05
The voices has the same patern...he is talking like he has his nouse ''clogged''...listen also Sterling allan interview....

Vulcain67

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #13, on July 25th, 2012, 11:44 AM »
I've juste one question : Where is now all Stan's stuff, all VIC circuit, all transformers.....

That stuff can help us to replicate and understand the WFC thecnology.

Jeff Nading

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #14, on July 25th, 2012, 03:11 PM »
Quote from Vulcain67 on July 25th, 2012, 11:44 AM
I've juste one question : Where is now all Stan's stuff, all VIC circuit, all transformers.....

That stuff can help us to replicate and understand the WFC thecnology.
Good question. ?????


Sharky

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #16, on July 26th, 2012, 12:43 AM »
I always wondered why Stephen did not take over after Stans death and bring the tech to market? He has been very actively involved in all, he even was the one that designed the electronics. That leaves three possibilities:
1) even Stephen was not completely aware of the exact workings of the WFC tech, by now we know that there is no magic in the electronics so we and Stephen must be missing something else! Otherwise he would have brought it to market a long time ago
2) The science behind the WFC tech is to complicated even for Stephen to understand it?
3) the WFC tech is a fraud (or at least part of it)

Anyway, as others already indicated, .... people asking for money/donations without any clear indication or prove on what the money will be used for is a RED FLAG. If their intentions are good and they want to bring the tech to market for the benefit of the world they should join us or any other group with the same intentions. If they refuse that their only intention is their own benefit, ... in that case they should search for an investor and not ask for donations!

Russ have you contacted them about their intentions?

Farrah Day

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #17, on July 26th, 2012, 02:06 AM »
I in fact do think that is Stephen Meyer in the video - not that it means diddly-squat.

However, I find their motives questionable. First impression I get is that they just want other people to pay for their tinkering - and if that tinkering involves starting from scratch, then you might as well make donations to myself or others that have been in this game for years, and probably know more about the subject.

I personally think that they are playing the Stephen Meyer card simply in order to try to increase donations, as if his name gives them credibility.  If Stephen has not already replicated Stan's work, then he never will.

They do not have anything new, and if they did, as Sharky has pointed out, they would be looking for investors, not donations. All smells very fishy to me!

~Russ

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #18, on July 26th, 2012, 02:12 AM »
Quote from Sharky on July 26th, 2012, 12:43 AM
I always wondered why Stephen did not take over after Stans death and bring the tech to market? He has been very actively involved in all, he even was the one that designed the electronics. That leaves three possibilities:
1) even Stephen was not completely aware of the exact workings of the WFC tech, by now we know that there is no magic in the electronics so we and Stephen must be missing something else! Otherwise he would have brought it to market a long time ago
2) The science behind the WFC tech is to complicated even for Stephen to understand it?
3) the WFC tech is a fraud (or at least part of it)

Anyway, as others already indicated, .... people asking for money/donations without any clear indication or prove on what the money will be used for is a RED FLAG. If their intentions are good and they want to bring the tech to market for the benefit of the world they should join us or any other group with the same intentions. If they refuse that their only intention is their own benefit, ... in that case they should search for an investor and not ask for donations!

Russ have you contacted them about their intentions?
i have not, Danial has and I'm awaiting a response from him then i will try to call my self.

i'm not in a hurry... lol go with the flow, see where it takes us.

im sure he aware of others out there like me/tony/max/the orion project/ all the others out there , its kinda hard to miss when its your brother...
~Russ

adys15

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #19, on July 26th, 2012, 02:53 AM »
Quote from Sharky on July 26th, 2012, 12:43 AM
I always wondered why Stephen did not take over after Stans death and bring the tech to market? He has been very actively involved in all, he even was the one that designed the electronics. That leaves three possibilities:
1) even Stephen was not completely aware of the exact workings of the WFC tech, by now we know that there is no magic in the electronics so we and Stephen must be missing something else! Otherwise he would have brought it to market a long time ago
2) The science behind the WFC tech is to complicated even for Stephen to understand it?
3) the WFC tech is a fraud (or at least part of it)

Anyway, as others already indicated, .... people asking for money/donations without any clear indication or prove on what the money will be used for is a RED FLAG. If their intentions are good and they want to bring the tech to market for the benefit of the world they should join us or any other group with the same intentions. If they refuse that their only intention is their own benefit, ... in that case they should search for an investor and not ask for donations!

Russ have you contacted them about their intentions?
1)I think Stephen was knowing  verry what he and his brother were doing(you saw the short video about new energy sources....with his alternator..bla bla...he said that it is working on a device that reduce fuel consumption.He has a reason to say that he can make hho to reduce fuel consumption,(i don't see anybody getting murdered for a hidrogen booster).. if he sayd his device works without adding any petrol then it would be a problem...think about if your brother was murdered for a water fuel car would you ''invent''another one?I don't think so.If you look at Sterlin Allan site ...Stephen say that he would not talk about the technology only if someone makes a ---milion dolars offer...that means he Knows a lot...and that's why in the radio interview he talks only bolloney....and almost nothing about hho.

2)the man rebuilt a jet engine and,was taking part in the development of the transistor in the 70's....so...think for yourself...

3)I don't think so...

wfchobby

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #20, on July 26th, 2012, 03:52 AM »Last edited on July 26th, 2012, 03:54 AM by wfchobby
The red flag for me is that......nothing is presented in the video to give grounds to donate to.
As an example,  http://www.aquafuelinc.com/systems.html have a hho system for trucks for fuel consumption reduction http://www.aquafuelinc.com/gallery.html

What would be useful to know is what is the direction the stephen meyer group intend to go, fuel consumption reduction or fuel replacement...

Sharky

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #21, on July 26th, 2012, 05:10 AM »
Quote from adys15 on July 26th, 2012, 02:53 AM
Quote from Sharky on July 26th, 2012, 12:43 AM
I always wondered why Stephen did not take over after Stans death and bring the tech to market? He has been very actively involved in all, he even was the one that designed the electronics. That leaves three possibilities:
1) even Stephen was not completely aware of the exact workings of the WFC tech, by now we know that there is no magic in the electronics so we and Stephen must be missing something else! Otherwise he would have brought it to market a long time ago
2) The science behind the WFC tech is to complicated even for Stephen to understand it?
3) the WFC tech is a fraud (or at least part of it)

Anyway, as others already indicated, .... people asking for money/donations without any clear indication or prove on what the money will be used for is a RED FLAG. If their intentions are good and they want to bring the tech to market for the benefit of the world they should join us or any other group with the same intentions. If they refuse that their only intention is their own benefit, ... in that case they should search for an investor and not ask for donations!

Russ have you contacted them about their intentions?
1)I think Stephen was knowing  verry what he and his brother were doing(you saw the short video about new energy sources....with his alternator..bla bla...he said that it is working on a device that reduce fuel consumption.He has a reason to say that he can make hho to reduce fuel consumption,(i don't see anybody getting murdered for a hidrogen booster).. if he sayd his device works without adding any petrol then it would be a problem...think about if your brother was murdered for a water fuel car would you ''invent''another one?I don't think so.If you look at Sterlin Allan site ...Stephen say that he would not talk about the technology only if someone makes a ---milion dolars offer...that means he Knows a lot...and that's why in the radio interview he talks only bolloney....and almost nothing about hho.

2)the man rebuilt a jet engine and,was taking part in the development of the transistor in the 70's....so...think for yourself...

3)I don't think so...
My statements were actually meant as a rhetorical question :cool: and you answered questions 2 and 3 for the public ;) so that leaves door number 1. History has shown that bringing this commercially to market is impossible. Therefor the try of Stephen and friends will be, as sad as it may be, in vane as well. The only way to bring this tech forward is through open source, make it go viral and then no government or company will be able to stop it. I only hope that Stephen will not take the secret to his grave one day (hopefully at old age) but releases all information he may have before that! Maybe we or somebody else can convince him in doing that and his reward will be a better world to live in!

Jeff Nading

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #22, on July 26th, 2012, 05:12 AM »
I would also have to agree with Sharky and Farrah.

Darenzo

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #23, on July 26th, 2012, 06:20 AM »
+1 Sharky . I'm not convinced that Steven knows of any "secrets" that would unlock the research done here and around the world ..and the fact that he is publicly asking for money convinces me even less... I truly believe that the only way the human race will unlock and distribute this technology is though open source because it will be one of us that has a breakthrough... thanks to Stans inspiration !!

ddrum

RE: Stephen Meyer Is Back ?
« Reply #24, on July 26th, 2012, 11:03 AM »
I deleted my last post out of respect for Stephen (just in case its really him :)). I had just finished watching the Andrija Puharich lecture video where he was explaining his circuit (but said he wasn't going to disclose the fine details), and it made me think how many people have gone to the grave with vital information for mankind. Im hoping that Stephen doesn't do that, because I believe he knows Exactly how Stan's (and HIS) system worked. In the Meyer videos Stephen sure looked like he knew as he explained the electronics. I also enjoyed listening to the 6 interviews, he is a Very knowledgable guy! One thing for sure is we will all get the information we need in Gods time!!
Blessings to all who are working so hard!
Donny