maybe consume is the wrong word.
transform would be better.
the dielectric voltage is tranformed into a magnetic current.

and the magnetic current is transformed into a dielectric back emf voltage.

but then... i dont like the word "current" its too much like "consume".

@ onepower
yes that is the book Im reading. Its very clear to me. It already has given me great insights. Its rather brilliant in my opinion.

JJ thompson did discover the electron, but not as a particle unicorn. I must agree with ken wheeler and eric dollard on this one.

to me the school textbooks of today are simply not correct. they hold up to a certain degree, but are very limited in their concepts. they give but a few straight answers. I asked my teachers in the days of my education a lot of questions, and the answers never satisfied. In the end they started giving up. Said I had to do my own research because science didnt know. I even was excused from my physics class, and was allowed to study in the library instead (a great gift).
ken wheeler en eric dollard where the first that sparked my passion again, they simply make sense to me.

So, it seems we do not agree Onepower. thats fine. with all respect, i dont have to convince you, you dont have to convince me. Maybe we can inspire eachother.

may the truth set us free
 :grouphug:

Last night I had a great idea before i fell to sleep.
I just remembered. Luckily!

A coil, when pulsed, creates a back emf when the pulse stops. this pulsed coil can bring a parallel coil in to resonance via its magnetic field.
 
The back emf also can make a resonant wave, when we pulse it directly into a (resonant) coil.
If we want both resonances to add up their voltages, they need to be in phase. Thsi means the back emf needs to be at the start of the [pulse, to do this, we need to buffer it into a capacitor and discharge it at the start...

There is an easy way, where we dont need to buffer the back EMF into a capacitor.

If we use a 50% duty cycle pulse, and we make it a positive and negative pulse. (not a off on off on. but, 50 %positive on, 50% negative on)

The positive pulse is directed into one coil(A1), creating a magnetic field with back emf, and it lets a parallel coil (A2) resonate.
The negative pulse is directed (diode, or the post i made a while back) into another coil (B1), again also creating a magnetic field, with a back emf, and it also lets another parallel coil (b2) resonate.

So this is a double system, where one is on while the other is off, and vice versa.

Now the beauty!

The back EMF produced by coil A1, is produced at the same time, coil B1 is pulsed/magnetised.
So, the back emf of coil A1, can be directly injected, into resonant coil B2.
And vice versa!!!

the two magnetic resonant coil sine waves, are getting a back emf resonant sine on top, and the voltage is doubled, so the magnetic field is also doubed!

No capacitor needed, no switching needed. Man, this is a good idea.

But... it needs to be put into practice.
The polarities of the back EMF need to be correct, so  it needs to be figured out, how to inject the back emf from the positive pulse into the resonant coil of the negative pulse.
Maybe this is not possible, but i think is can be. by using the other end of the resonant coil to ground we can alter the phase.

OK ok... its just an idea. but It would be so nice, to direct the back emf straight into another resonant coil, without the need to store it first in a capacitor.

Both resonant coils can then be used to resonate 2 output coils, that are out of phase, so the output gets doubled again...

But... Its still based, on some assumptions. this needs to be worked out.

from post#193 the youtube vid of G sav, its schemtic to create a double pulse from a 555

https://youtu.be/pFbVlhFQhN0

I attached the first schemtaic of the vid also below

I still have three 555 chips some where. they where the more stable ones, that didnt load the power supply down, or whatever.

270khz is high enough.
exciting
:)

tnx matt,
we'll see how the mixing works if we build

Im still very curious about the result of your back emf resonant coil test. If it doesnt show a deviation on the compass needle, then the resonance is with another field(form).

the magnetic resonance, fluctuates between magnetic field energy and dielectric field energy. and the needle deviates.

the back emf resonance also shows up on the scope as a voltage sine. so it implies there is a dielectric field involved. but if the compass needle doesnt deviate, it fluctuates between dielectric and another field form (different than magnetic). I assume its the ring torroid longitudinal field. Still need a name for it...

mixing would be from coupling/joining the dielectric field component.

in other words, the resonant sine waves of both forms, need to be inphase.
the phase lock is a natural phenomenon that occurs automatically

we might have forgotten one thing matt.
something you just experimented with.

the back emf gives a infinite voltage when an infinite resistance is shutting down the current that created the magnetic field energy.

if we direct the back emf energy straight (without buffering into a capacitor) into the resonant coil, the coil presents a low resistance...
It might still work, but... it isnt a spike anymore....

I think a capacitor is better.

I finally made the hard to read pdf into a paper book.
much easier to read.

I find it a superb book. the first lectures are so very clear.

the best thing about this book:

 "electric discharges, waves and impulses, and other transients" by Charles Proteus Steinmetz,

 it never mentions the electron.

I totally agree Matt.

particle unicorns are very limited in their possibilities to explain the nature of field transformations.

in the end, all is light.

Matt,
 if the back emf is charged into the capacitor

and we use the capacitor to pulse a coil,
the intention is to create a short sharp pulse, just like the original back emf.

so its not a 50% duty cycle pulse, but more like a hammer. hitting hard and instant.

the coil is then resonating, but does not create a back emf. 
why?
because there is no magnetic field being build up by consuming the voltage spike.

this resonance is between the dielectric field and the third field (not the magnetic)

at least, that is my limited understanding of it.

If a back emf was produced, when would it happen?  the pulse stops very fast. that should be the moment for the back emf as the current stops. just like with the 50% duty cycle. when the pulsed current stops it gives the b emf.

but now it doesnt. the capacitor discharge creates a resonant sine.

I remember you doing a experiment, where you pulsed a bifilar coil, with a single pulse. and it showed no ringing at all.
this suprised me alot.
but this is again proof that the pulse from back emf energy is different, as this pulse DOES create a ringing.

an empty capacitor draws a current until its full.
so empty its low impedance
full its high impedance.

so to fill it with back emf its best to have in nearly full, as it represents a high impedance.

isnt that what nelson said? he uses a capacitor to discharge but first he needs to fill it?

so the capacitor discharge into the resonant coiln is short of duration.
it gives a strong hammer slam, but it doesn't empty the capacitor.

thats why these kinds of resonant overunity systems lile kapanadze and alike, need a battery to start. the battery is needed until the capacitor is full, and the back emf/current becomes strong enough.

about the tempic field:
 Its time related. My idea is,  the back EMF is placed at a different time interval(phase angle)
this way we influence the tempic field. by shifting the back emf in time (storing bemf in a capacitor and discharging it, as a simulated back emf, at a different phase angle). normally the back emf is timed at the collapse of the magnetic field, but now its at the start. Now its fuel for the transformation of the dielectric energy into magnetic energy.

the entropy changes. (entropy=rate of change per unit of time, in other words we are changing the tempic field)

the coil as a valve.

I have written this before.

the hall effect is working in a bifilar coil.
this effect is known for deviating the dielectric field when it is inside a strong magnetic field.

but now the dielectric field is stronger between the windings of the bifilar coil.
stronger, than the magnetic field that wraps around the windings.

the hall effect now works in reverse. the strong dielectric field deviates the magnetic field. preventing the magnetic field from creating a counter electro motive force between the windings.

the hall effect is creating the deviation of the compass needle, as is steers the magnetic field into one direction on one side of the coil, and the other direction on the other side of the coil

this happens when the coil is resonant

i tried working with transistors but the ones i have are not ideal.

the igbt I have works great, but since i now am working with back emf, its internal protection diode is problematic.

I might have to replace the IGBT on the board, for a IGBT without protection diode, so i can redirect the back emf into a capacitor. and if i do so, i will order 2 of those igbt's and another board, so i can properly work with switching.

the signal to switch still would need to be linked from one source, so i need to figure that out first probably