Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator

haxar

Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« on September 16th, 2011, 06:46 PM »
This thread is dedicated to Stan's steam resonator and replication progress.

Progress so far from YouTube user THEWATERENERGY1:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsmdSkYEp6M

The description of this video is paraphrased to be easily readable:
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Heat/Steam Resonator (element) Stan Meyer style circuit test @ 90VDC, 1A, 1.2 KHz

We are testing this element for the home heating boiler. Heating up 1 liter of water from 15 Celsius to 90 Celsius in 1 second is faster than a magnetron. The element used in this test is "3XXX 3#INCH". We are using a new circuit for this test.

What we are doing is testing a circuit at various frequencies and voltages at low amperage to find resonance and to quickly heat the water.

The reasons why you would need a "heat resonator" is, for example, to defrost the fuel tank, with water as fuel, in the winter if it is frozen. We would also use the "heat resonator" in a home heating boiler to heat up the water and pump it around the house to have a warm house in the winter. In Europe, we use a lot of propane in the wintertime to warm up our houses.

In the future, we will post more information about this system at work.

haxar

RE: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #1, on September 20th, 2011, 01:51 PM »Last edited on September 20th, 2011, 02:00 PM by haxar
Here is a circuit for the steam resonator not found in the technical brief or in other Stan's publications made public as memo WFC427DA sourced from Tony Woodside's site.



A brief observation of this image appears as if the left circuit is a mirror opposite of the right circuit. It may be as simple as applying alternating current to the water.

A printable version of this image has been recreated in PDF format as an attachment to this post or accessible through this mirror.

firepinto

RE: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #2, on September 20th, 2011, 02:59 PM »
Quote from haxar on September 20th, 2011, 01:51 PM
Here is a circuit for the steam resonator not found in the technical brief or in other Stan's publications made public as memo WFC427DA sourced from Tony Woodside's site.



A brief observation of this image appears as if the left circuit is a mirror opposite of the right circuit. It may be as simple as applying alternating current to the water.

A printable version of this image has been recreated in PDF format as an attachment to this post or accessible through this mirror.
I wonder if the up-side-down letter B next to voltage zone E14 has any meaning?  I start to wonder if Stan left hidden meanings in his work.  Either that or its just a typo. :)

Gunther Rattay

RE: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #3, on September 21st, 2011, 02:12 AM »Last edited on September 21st, 2011, 05:32 AM by bussi04
Quote from firepinto on September 20th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Quote from haxar on September 20th, 2011, 01:51 PM
Here is a circuit for the steam resonator not found in the technical brief or in other Stan's publications made public as memo WFC427DA sourced from Tony Woodside's site.



A brief observation of this image appears as if the left circuit is a mirror opposite of the right circuit. It may be as simple as applying alternating current to the water.

A printable version of this image has been recreated in PDF format as an attachment to this post or accessible through this mirror.
I wonder if the up-side-down letter B next to voltage zone E14 has any meaning?  I start to wonder if Stan left hidden meanings in his work.  Either that or its just a typo. :)
Good job haxar to have opened that thread!

the steam resonator is a follow up project of the WFC application. once the VIC works the right way the operational chain of secondary, chokes, diode and electrodes can be doubled and space between both electrodes can be changed. that way no hydrogen is produced and therefore there is no need for an EEC in this application.

don´t be fooled by the GND signs - they are isolated so that there is no real GND at all. you can take "Off" as negative potential "B-"

the circuit works the following way:

each electrode can change it´s state between positive voltage field and "GND".

that way ions have to travel around a lot in the water bath heating it up by the way. the true value is the VIC doing it´s voltage potential work with minimum amount of amp flow.

both mirror side circuits are operated anti-cyclic.

as Meyer said: it´s all about timing :-)


bussi04


RonXPR

RE: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #4, on September 23rd, 2011, 10:03 AM »
I'd like to see more on this if possible?   I have a old boiler that has to be replaced and would like to see how yours turned out when it is completed.  Thanks.

Paul Butcher

RE: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #5, on January 23rd, 2013, 02:25 PM »
Haxar,

You are right to say that it would be a massive help to all of us to reduce our heating bills!
I have been very interested in this application of Stan's. Have you any progress to report on trying to replicate his steam resonator? From looking at www.globalkast.com/photos.htm
it looks quite complicated electronically.


Paul Butcher.


haxar

RE: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #6, on January 24th, 2013, 12:34 PM »
Quote from Paul Butcher on January 23rd, 2013, 02:25 PM
Haxar,

You are right to say that it would be a massive help to all of us to reduce our heating bills!
I have been very interested in this application of Stan's. Have you any progress to report on trying to replicate his steam resonator? From looking at www.globalkast.com/photos.htm
it looks quite complicated electronically.


Paul Butcher.
No progress at all since this thread started. It would be nice to have this technology. There's just not enough documentation and motivation to start replicating this.

The circuit involves the Voltage Intensifier Circuit but we can't even get it to split water super-efficiently yet.

Amsy

RE: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #7, on January 31st, 2013, 05:15 AM »Last edited on January 31st, 2013, 06:29 AM by Amsy
Do you think the hole "home heating unit" is built on that technology?

The circuit seems to create AC (maybe squarewave AC) over the water gap.
Indeed, when the voltage attracte the ions in the water, heat is generated because they are travelling through the hole gap. So by alternating the voltage the ions go from one side to another and then vice versa. The special "key" is, to make this fast enough (frequency) that no electrolyses will happen, but slow enough that the ions can travel a little bit. (ion travel speed is very slow).

I made some experiments with destilled water and 90 to 130V DC. It draws nearly 2 amps max (tube cell) and heats up the water very quickly.
Maybe I try this with AC in the near future.




Lynx

RE: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #9, on February 20th, 2013, 09:32 AM »
Well well well, if it isn't our old friend (?) valyonpz.

Thanks though Dan, much appreciated the time you take to hunt these clips down

Muxar

RE: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #10, on February 21st, 2013, 07:23 AM »
Nice results...90w to heat up 1 liter to 90c in a second??
Who is working on that? do we know any newer result of the device?


securesupplies

Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #12, on April 6th, 2014, 04:38 AM »
Heat/Steam Resonator (element) Stan Meyer style circuit test @ 90VDC, 1A, 1.2 KHzWe are testing this element for the home heating boiler. Heating up 1 liter of water from 15 Celsius to 90 Celsius in 1 second is faster than a magnetron. The element used in this test is "3XXX 3#INCH". We are using a new circuit for this test.What we are doing is testing a circuit at various frequencies and voltages at low amperage to find resonance and to quickly heat the water.The reasons why you would need a "heat resonator" is, for example, to defrost the fuel tank, with water as fuel, in the winter if it is frozen. We would also use the "heat resonator" in a home heating boiler to heat up the water and pump it around the house to have a warm house in the winter. In Europe, we use a lot of propane in the wintertime to warm up our houses.

once the VIC works the right way the operational chain of secondary, chokes, diode and electrodes can be doubled and space between both electrodes can be changed. that way no hydrogen is produced and therefore there is no need for an EEC in this application.don´t be fooled by the GND signs - they are isolated so that there is no real GND at all. you can take "Off" as negative potential "B-"the circuit works the following way: each electrode can change

it´s state between positive voltage field and "GND".that way ions have to travel around a lot in the water bath heating it up by the way. the true value is the VIC doing it´s voltage potential work with minimum amount of amp flow.both mirror side circuits are operated anti-cyclic.as Meyer said: it´s all about timing

securesupplies

Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #13, on April 6th, 2014, 05:15 AM »Last edited on April 6th, 2014, 05:17 AM
This one is some thing to work with if we can make the circuit board.

Dan


Henne

Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #14, on April 10th, 2014, 03:03 PM »Last edited on April 10th, 2014, 03:12 PM
Hi all,

For the sake of completeness, I searched around and I found these drawings regarding the 'steam resonator' on another forum. See attachments.

Has anyone been able to replicate this? I find this particularly interesting. Actually higher up my list to replicate than the WFC. The practical applications are staggering. Imagine never having to burn gas to heat your home!

The problem I find, as with the other replication projects, where do I begin!? I am missing some overview in all this between all the information out there, the proverbial 'not seeing the forest through the trees'. What high level 'building blocks' does one need? How does it all fit together? This thread could be a good place to consolidate it.
 
It would be nice to get some advice from anyone who has been working on this and is willing to share! My eternal gratitude will be forever yours!

With regards,

Henne

securesupplies

Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #15, on April 10th, 2014, 09:08 PM »

Very Cool Post  We can look at the  Driving Circuit and and Switch first look like basic transformer and switch(Scr opto coupler) to chokes with diodes

Henne

Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #16, on April 11th, 2014, 03:03 AM »
Thx Dan :) I checked out the site in your signature. Very cool stuff! I see that you already have a Water Heater prototype for sale? Is this a replication of the Stan Meyer Steam Resonator?

securesupplies

Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #17, on April 16th, 2014, 10:48 AM »Last edited
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firepinto

Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #18, on April 16th, 2014, 04:41 PM »
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Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #19, on April 16th, 2014, 10:45 PM »Last edited
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Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #20, on April 16th, 2014, 10:55 PM »

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brettly

Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #21, on August 2nd, 2014, 05:46 AM »
does anyone have any updates on steam resonator circuit?
is this correct thread to post in re: steam resonator?
I'll put some info and questions anyhow, will start with the steam res vic coils
trying to figure out how its wound, there are two different pics available,
i've put on some  red/blue/green lines to show what I'm guessing are the different windings
red lines= primary 18turns thick wire
blue lines= secondary1 360turns thin wire
green lines= secondary 2 360turns thin wire
Or are the secondaries actually the charging chokes?
Would the secondaries be bifilar wound?
Are my colour markings correct?
Or..could it be, primary/secondary/choke are the three windings?

brettly

Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #22, on August 4th, 2014, 05:07 AM »
two pics previous post, one coil is in stans flip/flop or switching circuit, there is a circuit posted that reverse engineers that circuit, but I'm not sure if its correct. I think it would be worthwhile to go through exactly what connections are known from that picture and which connections are unknown,
Going from the pics of the two coils, one thing is certain and that is the red marked wires are the primary coil, it is thicker and has a reddish coloured coating.
The coil in stans switching circuit has all wires exiting from one side, the spare coil the thin wires ( secondaries?) he has changed so that wires come out both sides. I'm guessing the previous pic is correct for green/blue secondaries, but pic below is another possibility

brettly

Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #23, on August 4th, 2014, 05:11 AM »
I'll just add some more details, not sure who did this picture, but this is an interpretation of stans switching circuit from pic in previous post

brettly

Re: Stan Meyer's Steam Resonator
« Reply #24, on August 4th, 2014, 05:15 AM »
below is a  circuit from valyonpz youtube video ( I realise there were some issue with him? on the forum in the past) but for a novice ( i.e. me) these circuits seem to be a good place to start to figure out a replication. This circuit seems to be related to the switching circuit board.