I agree, I wish I had time to explore all of this myself, I surely would like to see more experimentation done on this, Jeff.:cool::D:P:P

Quote from INVENTOR3 on June 21st, 2012, 03:57 AM

Many will say that the Lifter can Not work in a vacuum, and they even showed this on Myth Busters.    But here is old video of lifter, by NASA, working in a vacuum!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYMUv1VJ3VQ&list=FL4veaoZVOJwJ4LdYGAjclwg&index=51&feature=plpp_video

Any comments?
Do we "really" know what effect is taking place here.  If this is working in a vacuum, can we really say this is an "Ion" effect?

FreeThisOne:  i like your designs/concepts.

A lifter is a crude form of particle accelerator. In order for the charges to transfer or discharge to ground, a medium is needed. In this case ambient air. The air surrounding the lifter itself is being positively charged which in turn accelerates the particles, or ions to ground. If you stand under the lifter during operation, you can feel the ionic wind it produces. So, of course, in a vacuum which is void of any medium such as air, there will be very little energy transfer, or at least not enough to lift the device.

The device in the video is not an actual lifter, but a "Lifter like asymmetrical capacitor"

Thanks for the reply.
asymmetrical capacitor, i saw this myself, hmmm, interesting.  Would the NASA experiment be a form of levitation then or antigravity,,and how does "this" work.

I like you atom joke, heheheh.

here is another one for ya,,,the newest joke going around.....

Bartender says we dont serve your kind....
2 Neutrinos walk into a bar.

(get it)!!  fater then light, hehehehe

Quote from INVENTOR3 on June 22nd, 2012, 04:00 AM

Thanks for the reply.
asymmetrical capacitor, i saw this myself, hmmm, interesting.  Would the NASA experiment be a form of levitation then or antigravity,,and how does "this" work.

I like you atom joke, heheheh.

here is another one for ya,,,the newest joke going around.....

Bartender says we dont serve your kind....
2 Neutrinos walk into a bar.

(get it)!!  faster then light, hehehehe

hi Paul LOL FUNNY JOKE.

Get this, i believe that each mass creates its own field.  neg because they repel but still bipolar..

Now I verify the cassimir effect as:
The compression of flux waves in space Having 2 or more objects of same charge in local space.
this causes the vacuum of space to increase in flux, and therefore the medium of the vacuum causes the induction i wish to describe. Induction of planets of high mass, and charge. To cause this flux. described by wiki..


"the Casimir effect and the Casimir–Polder force are physical forces arising from a quantized field. The typical example is of two uncharged metallic plates in a vacuum, like capacitors placed a few micrometers apart, without any external electromagnetic field. In a classical description, the lack of an external field also means that there is no field between the plates, and no force would be measured between them.[1] When this field is instead studied using the QED vacuum of quantum electrodynamics, it is seen that the plates do affect the virtual photons which constitute the field, and generate a net force[2]—either an attraction or a repulsion depending on the specific arrangement of the two plates. Although the Casimir effect can be expressed in terms of virtual particles interacting with the objects, it is best described and more easily calculated in terms of the zero-point energy of a quantized field in the intervening space between the objects."


 All is in local space time. What does this teach us? a whole whole lot.........


the lifter technology has some similarity. also your air circuit can now be advanced.


Get this in a lifter we have a foil skirt, and a small gap for a insulated wire in close proximity. Now i understand the way earth charge may be used.
that was discovered in the past.  The telophgy and the antenna that was used to get the next desired effect.  I  will find this patent and post it later. Another member i believe already posted on the railroad tracks guy.

 by making a long wire lay across the earth, about 1 foot from earth, and insulated will create in my opinion the same effect. Should experiment with smaller, and larger gaps...



what was it that Stan had in mind, when he said disintegration the water by not finding resonance, but a continual increasing voltage?   The Vic coil may actually work in that manner . Needs testing..        Russ you out there ?


You must continuously increase voltage to get the desired effect.  So many similarity, listen to the language..  In water, for the separation of o2 hho  Find the frequency of water molecule vibration.
 increasing voltages  of higher  steps of harmonic frequency. in order to produce the higher magnetic flux , and changing magnetic /electric field.  Has anyone else described it like this? the field lines curve in to each other under greater, and greater accelerations of change.

I find the literal meaning of words as a plus... Find the Mit lecture on harmonics.

PS don't:P be a stranger. Inventor 3





 .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKxB_KR7Iss&list=UUW-aecm5xvksB-Pk8Xyb_Nw&index=2&feature=plcp:cool::cool:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQvmJjiM124

Quote from INVENTOR3 on June 21st, 2012, 03:57 AM

Many will say that the Lifter can Not work in a vacuum, and they even showed this on Myth Busters.    But here is old video of lifter, by NASA, working in a vacuum!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYMUv1VJ3VQ&list=FL4veaoZVOJwJ4LdYGAjclwg&index=51&feature=plpp_video

Any comments?
Do we "really" know what effect is taking place here.  If this is working in a vacuum, can we really say this is an "Ion" effect?

FreeThisOne:  i like your designs/concepts.

Hi Guys.

 What i am seeing, is a force of gravity, and a force of increasing potential.
You could say equal, and opposite forces.:dodgy::dodgy:
What I think could be happening is. The inflow of energy is cause for a cooling of space. Check out the boomerang nebula.. Its  even colder than the ISCM. plus 3 degrees from absolute zero.

The bi field brown effect is the best description.    
A bi natural order of the electron, or atom. Perhaps the electron may jump in and out of another realm , and co exists  with the atom.
If i create the negative potential, the mass or conductor appears to attract it. The ion wind described as the atom or ion originating from the needle to the air. I believe it is the reverse order, at these sharp points a cool inflow  of positive energy is observed, keeping the conductor cool at room temperature, or when in use . A gap may be needed in many of the upcoming experiments.
Energy should be stored capacitors, or we may use the dielectric itself to store a much greater charge. Glass, or metallic glass, even gold dust, or silver could be used.
What if the dialectic is the thing to charge, and not from the foil coating surrounding the cap?  Still thinking...
we should discover a way to produce a better devise for energy storage. Call it an accumulator, as the better term.

Find the post, or read what Tesla describes  as the better lightning rod.
 Find this patent by Tesla. Its more of a shield, and stops the accumulation of the charge.
 A ordinary rod has a  sharp point, and has an attraction to the lightning bolt. Again we may say equal, and opposite forces.


thats what I got, Give it a whirl cheers...:D:D

interesting ENOUGH SKIP to roughly 36 minutes for the experiments.

This is on ions, and calculating electric fields. Gooood stuffff!!!

i will be trying the next experiment with the negative ion generator, and incorporate a candle to bring up the temperature of the ground source gap. here i will make more ions according to Walter. If then my conductor continues to stay at equilibrium, i would be able to draw a greater number of electron at a faster rate.

:D:D:cool::cool::P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I96_dYy9LgU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ghy-5vozLw

Interesting signal, ionization wave.


:angel::angel:
Realtime Space Weather Photo Gallery

IONIZATION WAVES: Magnetic fields snaking around the sun's southeastern limb are crackling with C- and M-class solar flares. Extreme UV pulses from the flares are illuminating Earth's upper atmosphere, causing waves of ionization to ripple around the dayside of our planet. Rob Stammes detected the sudden ionospheric disturbances (SIDs) from his laboratory in Lofoton, Norway:

"The extra ionization altered the propagation of very low frequency radio signals around Northern Europe," explains Stammes. "I detected these changes using my 60 kHz SID receiver."

More ionization waves are in the offing. NOAA forecasters estimate a 40% chance of M-class solar flares during the next 24 hours. Solar Flare alerts:

I  found some interesting movies i wanted to share.How does this relate to lifter technology? this man could be considered one of the founders.  Viktor Schauberger ..

After i watched these movies i had said. hmm is the ions, and electrons flowing in a inward spiral creating lift?  more importantly, is the negative ion generator causing the interaction with nature. the interaction of a spiraling inflow of charged particles?

I could only hope this is the case . may lead to advancements.    A beautiful concept of the laws of nature.. :heart::heart:

because we can cause an egg to rotate under the influence of nature, teaches us.
flow in one direction causing rotation in all bodies. we are immersed in a stream of living breathing water, we should indeed nurture it to becoming empathic.
:sleepy:

it is these shapes that utilize the directional movement of aether movement through space. a vast  single whirling of votaries and eddys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRvYpWMQXM

Find this movie, is very good.  Viktor Schauberger ..  >>>>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3wl-Temag9E#!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKmPRGU-Psk&feature=player_embedded#!


click link to see real lifter or ufo your choice,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKmPRGU-Psk&feature=player_embedded#!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbY-zM8qDpI    part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnVk4HrlQeA    part2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GedrX1Y6cFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5ufUYX_ZwY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepXkKClJAQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JuBW7s97ck

extra link to Lifter  http://www.antigravitytechnology.net/thomas_townsend_brown.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKmPRGU-Psk&feature=player_embedded#!

its been a wile since i updated, but i had a great idea yesterday incorporating lifter s and wind turbines.

the lifter can take all the drag off the turbine, and in my opinion even cause rotation without the need for wind.

ill add some finger paint and i will show you how later.

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 24th, 2012, 03:08 AM

Quote from freethisone on April 23rd, 2012, 07:58 AM

interesting patents, related. UFO airfoils.

advancement physics. lifters. ion skin effect, airplanes UFO submarine..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF8otSSPgdA

i did not read it but just looked at photos!

and...

hahahahaah! that is to crazy! that's a cool concept!!!

so this works on ionized gas... ( ambient air gas) so what happens to this craft when it gets close to the outer atmosphere or even space?

too cool. that's some crazy work there!  

~Russ

the way i see this working in my mind is, it works by means of a difference in potential.

the ion wind is only coronal discharge, and helps to rarefy the medium.
thrust is obtained in the same manner a Guss gun works. every magnet used helps to accelerate the projectile more and more.

however electric fields create magnetic fields, and it is the electrical component used to create the magnetic field that causes the lifter to move, instead of the magnets that the Guss gun uses.

this patent is a must for anyone interested in moving charges that creates magnetic fields for thrust.



i would suggest as an experiment to test several  different kinds of  coils you may  have with high voltages like the lifter uses.
50 thousand volts ac, and low amps. and then describe the effects. benefits, of the coil under these conditions..
http://www.archive.org/stream/electricalresear00caveuoft#page/44/mode/2up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDtDNHMveBQ&list=PLB2F36F063F4B220D&index=24



here is a way to basically shred water with electrolysis. the trick is a trickle charge for a capacitor bank. then this switch is necessary.

go to the high voltage demonstration close to the end of this lecture.
:P

apply to lifters also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyU0ZzxT-JY

these are some of early mans lifters.

It leaves no doubt that these craft can charge off of the tether:@. perhaps a gift to the master builders.

perhaps a craft with a two million volt potential across its gap.. a ring or magnetic guide wheel.. two strong inward vortex surrounded by a tri - illerr Rodin coil. smile..... or a plasma reactor? how bout it??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT-94c1Q6Ms

next page

:D

Quote from freethisone on September 17th, 2013, 02:41 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyU0ZzxT-JY

these are some of early mans lifters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT-94c1Q6Ms

in this movie you see nice plasma, but guess what make it go round, and round...

you choose the means.. what science tells me is this the energy in the plasma beam is 5 times greater then the input. the plasma stream, and the diameter gives the solution.

increase the diameter, and expand the coma itself due to acceleration, round and round..:P


peace.. stretch the limits of the ionized gas, and you will extract maximum power, by the continued increasing oscillation of the material. electrons move slow, but magnet-electric particles are a dense stream in the mist. Stan nailed it..:heart::heart:, and Tesla provided the means..

now my reactor is free to try. a plasma stream through a turbine. idea.

two a plasma core reactor fed with hydrogen, or browns gas. the burning ionizing hydrogen, heat will release controlled amounts enormous energy's ratios.shaking off electrons at a continual rate, heat adds the addition of ions in the conductor, this beam will cause the plasma stream to Emmit higher and higher potentials. finally the cylindrical container is mounted together with its strong coil vortex.
i can make it work.
circuits for this generator. or even a popper that wastes energy to do mechanical work. you need the sustained radiance and it should be in motion of sort.
basically  all the hho processor is this apparatus. do you see the coma, and glowing exited light?Just like comet ison its coma is 45 thousand miles and at its center 3 miles? It is in motion. there is a high potential near by. simple duplicating experiments.  if that stream was able to become 1 foot in diameter all the power needs of the world would be over,,

Pap or the Popper is only a feeble means to accomplished mechanical energy, and is similar to what Tesla said about vibration that cause light. its a bon fire.  
 on the other hand direct power rather then disrupting it with a pop, and letting it accumulate as a plasma in excitation power source. expanding the coma in a much larger container with bunch less material. Stan said lasers .. we also have a vortex type magnetic pump spinning at 20 thousand rpms with a Rodin coil; it can go linear if you choose..Lie in this example of a plasma beam. Pyrex  tubes will work just fine for testing you see? the hydrogen gas processor that is basically this continuous plasma stream capable of extracting usable energy at the focus of bombardment.

rather than causing the accumulated energy to go back to a ground state..:D

Quote from freethisone on June 22nd, 2012, 11:19 AM

Quote from INVENTOR3 on June 22nd, 2012, 04:00 AM

Thanks for the reply.
asymmetrical capacitor, i saw this myself, hmmm, interesting.  Would the NASA experiment be a form of levitation then or anti gravity,,and how does "this" work.

a lifter we have a foil skirt, and a small gap for a insulated wire in close proximity. Now i understand the way earth charge may be used.
that was discovered in the past.  The telophgy and the antenna that was used to get the next desired effect.  I  will find this patent and post it later. Another member i believe already posted on the railroad tracks guy.

 by making a long wire lay across the earth, about 1 foot from earth, and insulated will create in my opinion the same effect. Should experiment with smaller, and larger gaps...

we must understand the radius of earth is acting as our Gauss's surface. the gap almost one to 1 and a half feet. the estimate of surface charge can now be calculated. rather it was by Tesla..  so we have a potential of earth at or  near 300 kv. 1 foot gap is 12 inches. at 7 centimeter we get 70 kv, multiply by 4 is about 300kv from Earth if we use that as our equa-potential surface..:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w60SIHwOztk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQvmJjiM124


most of the language used in these post are very confusing, what i can stay about these experiments.

a negative potential attracts a positive. air is that positive charge, add some ozone to this mix, ion and electron avalanche occurs. electric break down.

there are two clear types of electrics. minus and plus.

there will be break down below 3 million volts unless you are in outer space.

if a surface charge is placed on a conductor, such as foil the surface area is important. if i add a wire the size of a hair. the radius would be million even hundred million times as small as the radius on b.
this allows for fast recovery for cap charging , the dipole is still in tack. not fully grounded. a floating ground, as if i was to act as the ground.:shy:.

i could shuttle around one type of charge, therefore i can do this with a positive charge too. it is a mono pole. why? because higher charges like to travel to lower potentials. and we have 2 clear electric fluids, you may say north, or south pole electricity. so yea i can cause the positive energy to meet my negative potential in a way that allows for scooping off some charge, and storing it in a capacitor bank.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxKNy-hweMw:huh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w60SIHwOztk:huh:

comparing one surface to another. with a 5 foot square foil i cant touch the foil because it don't like me.

on the smaller surface i can touch the plate, and feel a smaller shock.

what is happening here?

on the small scale ozone was found to influence the spark gap; so vacuum tube gaps will be the best. carbon perhaps..

recap, add..
what do you think?:cool:

there is no ionic breeze, only a cool inflow of positive energy.. any breeze is a result of electric breakdown also.

meet me half way positive comes in. my negative potential can have rotation also.

Am i mixing together one type of energy, or are there two types? so if i am a positive potential i would get electric break down in the opposite direction.  will there be a cool inflow of energy this time?
on a quantum level can  both positive, and negative charges exist on north pole electric currents?  Can two types of positive and negative charges exist on a south pole charge? If yes That would give 4 types of electrics. A negative, and A  positive south pole charge, and a positive, and negative north pole charge. that is speculation for now.

"Effect of Earth on Capacitance of Transmission Line  http://yourelectrichome.blogspot.com/2011/11/effect-of-earth-on-capacitance-of.html
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2011

       The capacitance of transmission line is affected by the presence of earth. Because of earth, electric field of a line is reduced. If we assume that the earth is a perfect conductor in the form of a horizontal plane of infinite extent, we realize that the electric field of charged conductors above the earth is not the same as it would be if the equipotential surface of earth were not present.
       The method of images is used while considering this type of problems. For this consider a single phase line having 2 conductors as shown in the Fig. 1.
       A fictitious conductor is placed below each conductor of the same size and shape as the overhead conductor lying directly below the original conductor at a distance equal to twice the distance of the conductor above the plane of ground. If the earth is removed and a charge equal and opposite to that an overhead conductor is assumed on the fictitious conductor, the plane midway between conductor and its image is an equipotential surface and occupies the same position as the equipotential surface of earth. This fictitious conductor is called image conductor having the charge opposite to that of overhead conductor.
       Comparing above equation with expression for capacitance of single phase line without considering the effect of earth, we can see that earth tries to increase the capacitance of line by small amount. But the effect is negligible if the conductors are high above ground compared to distances between them

But the effect is negligible if the conductors are high above ground compared to distances between them."
"
at one foot above earth this it is not the case..  freethisone..

you may say how do i use the earth as my charger?. its a ground and all the energy i put that is positive, is overcome by the negative earth surface charge.

the work around is simple you get a dc current, there is a spark gap. caps a charged 200 volt banks perhaps.  you may also have  oscillator. take this test. 5 12 volt battery together to make 60 volts. connect the negative to ground. you now have a huge negative potential difference. on the natural order. the overcharged air or medium is my added voltage. and positive charge.:)

connect to a negative potential. such as a battery. use a long insulated coil of wire.

that will give you very quick charges.:cool: an easy transformer coil or Microwave oven transformer step down. the voltage needs the most cautions , high voltages.
the long wire will act as a capacitor with the negative potential. 1200 feet worth of wire well insulated. it will hold your charge on the conductor, the wire, until you try to act on that charge.
step it down, now what did we do>

store energy .

Quote from freethisone on November 3rd, 2013, 06:05 AM

Quote from freethisone on June 22nd, 2012, 11:19 AM

Quote from INVENTOR3 on June 22nd, 2012, 04:00 AM

Thanks for the reply.
asymmetrical capacitor, i saw this myself, hmmm, interesting.  Would the NASA experiment be a form of levitation then or anti gravity,,and how does "this" work.

a lifter we have a foil skirt, and a small gap for a insulated wire in close proximity. Now i understand the way earth charge may be used.
that was discovered in the past.  The telophgy and the antenna that was used to get the next desired effect.  I  will find this patent and post it later. Another member i believe already posted on the railroad tracks guy.

 by making a long wire lay across the earth, about 1 foot from earth, and insulated will create in my opinion the same effect. Should experiment with smaller, and larger gaps...

we must understand the radius of earth is acting as our Gauss's surface. the gap almost one to 1 and a half feet. the estimate of surface charge can now be calculated. rather it was by Tesla..  so we have a potential of earth at or  near 300 kv. 1 foot gap is 12 inches. at 7 centimeter we get 70 kv, multiply by 4 is about 300kv from Earth if we use that as our equa-potential surface..:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w60SIHwOztk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQvmJjiM124 ed le tells us to get the magnets flowing in a bar. most ignore it, and is in plain sight,


most of the language used in these post are very confusing, what i can stay about these experiments.

a negative potential attracts a positive. air is that positive charge, add some ozone to this mix, ion and electron avalanche occurs. electric break down.

there are two clear types of electrics. minus and plus.

there will be break down below 3 million volts unless you are in outer space.

if a surface charge is placed on a conductor, such as foil the surface area is important. if i add a wire the size of a hair. the radius would be million even hundred million times as small as the radius on b.
this allows for fast recovery for cap charging , the dipole is still in tack. not fully grounded. a floating ground, as if i was to act as the ground.:shy:.

i could shuttle around one type of charge, therefore i can do this with a positive charge too. it is a mono pole. why? because higher charges like to travel to lower potentials. and we have 2 clear electric fluids, you may say north, or south pole electricity. so yea i can cause the positive energy to meet my negative potential in a way that allows for scooping off some charge, and storing it in a capacitor bank.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxKNy-hweMw:huh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w60SIHwOztk:huh:

comparing one surface to another. with a 5 foot square foil i cant touch the foil because it don't like me.

on the smaller surface i can touch the plate, and feel a smaller shock.

what is happening here?

on the small scale ozone was found to influence the spark gap; so vacuum tube gaps will be the best. carbon perhaps..

recap, add..
what do you think?:cool:

there is no ionic breeze, only a cool inflow of positive energy.. any breeze is a result of electric breakdown also.

meet me half way positive comes in. my negative potential can have rotation also.

Am i mixing together one type of energy, or are there two types? so if i am a positive potential i would get electric break down in the opposite direction.  will there be a cool inflow of energy this time?
on a quantum level can  both positive, and negative charges exist on north pole electric currents?  Can two types of positive and negative charges exist on a south pole charge? If yes That would give 4 types of electrics. A negative, and A  positive south pole charge, and a positive, and negative north pole charge. that is speculation for now.

" THE LARGER THE SURFACE, THE LARGER MAGNETIC FLUX IN  PROPORTION. GREAT PYRAMID, A STATIC DEVISE.

the effect of repulsion, and attraction can be simply understood as 2 unlike, or like Gaussion surfaces, of unlike charges, or like charges.
this dictates to me, what is the  cassimire force? i can see the interaction of space, and plates.
click link.
The Casimir Effect:angel:

wiki "The net outward normal electric flux through any closed surface is proportional to the total electric charge enclosed within that closed surface.
The law can be expressed mathematically using vector calculus in integral form and differential form, both are equivalent since they are related by the divergence theorem, also called Gauss's theorem. Each of these forms in turn can also be expressed two ways: In terms of a relation between the electric field E and the total electric charge, or in terms of the electric displacement field D and the free electric charge.[4]
Equation involving E field"

Quote from freethisone on November 9th, 2013, 05:59 PM

Quote from freethisone on November 3rd, 2013, 06:05 AM

Quote from freethisone on June 22nd, 2012, 11:19 AM

Quote from INVENTOR3 on June 22nd, 2012, 04:00 AM

Thanks for the reply.
asymmetrical capacitor, i saw this myself, hmmm, interesting.  Would the NASA experiment be a form of levitation then or anti gravity,,and how does "this" work.

a lifter we have a foil skirt, and a small gap for a insulated wire in close proximity. Now i understand the way earth charge may be used.
that was discovered in the past.  The telophgy and the antenna that was used to get the next desired effect.  I  will find this patent and post it later. Another member i believe already posted on the railroad tracks guy.

 by making a long wire lay across the earth, about 1 foot from earth, and insulated will create in my opinion the same effect. Should experiment with smaller, and larger gaps...

we must understand the radius of earth is acting as our Gauss's surface. the gap almost one to 1 and a half feet. the estimate of surface charge can now be calculated. rather it was by Tesla..  so we have a potential of earth at or  near 300 kv. 1 foot gap is 12 inches. at 7 centimeter we get 70 kv, multiply by 4 is about 300kv from Earth if we use that as our equa-potential surface..:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w60SIHwOztk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQvmJjiM124 ed le tells us to get the magnets flowing in a bar. most ignore it, and is in plain sight,


most of the language used in these post are very confusing, what i can stay about these experiments.

a negative potential attracts a positive. air is that positive charge, add some ozone to this mix, ion and electron avalanche occurs. electric break down.

there are two clear types of electrics. minus and plus.

there will be break down below 3 million volts unless you are in outer space.

if a surface charge is placed on a conductor, such as foil the surface area is important. if i add a wire the size of a hair. the radius would be million even hundred million times as small as the radius on b.
this allows for fast recovery for cap charging , the dipole is still in tack. not fully grounded. a floating ground, as if i was to act as the ground.:shy:.

i could shuttle around one type of charge, therefore i can do this with a positive charge too. it is a mono pole. why? because higher charges like to travel to lower potentials. and we have 2 clear electric fluids, you may say north, or south pole electricity. so yea i can cause the positive energy to meet my negative potential in a way that allows for scooping off some charge, and storing it in a capacitor bank.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxKNy-hweMw:huh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w60SIHwOztk:huh:

comparing one surface to another. with a 5 foot square foil i cant touch the foil because it don't like me.

on the smaller surface i can touch the plate, and feel a smaller shock.

what is happening here?

on the small scale ozone was found to influence the spark gap; so vacuum tube gaps will be the best. carbon perhaps..

recap, add..
what do you think?:cool:

there is no ionic breeze, only a cool inflow of positive energy.. any breeze is a result of electric breakdown also.

meet me half way positive comes in. my negative potential can have rotation also.

Am i mixing together one type of energy, or are there two types? so if i am a positive potential i would get electric break down in the opposite direction.  will there be a cool inflow of energy this time?
on a quantum level can  both positive, and negative charges exist on north pole electric currents?  Can two types of positive and negative charges exist on a south pole charge? If yes That would give 4 types of electrics. A negative, and A  positive south pole charge, and a positive, and negative north pole charge. that is speculation for now.

" THE LARGER THE SURFACE, THE LARGER MAGNETIC FLUX IN  PROPORTION. GREAT PYRAMID, A STATIC DEVISE.

the effect of repulsion, and attraction can be simply understood as 2 unlike, or like Gaussion surfaces, of unlike charges, or like charges.
this dictates to me, what is the  cassimire force? i can see the interaction of space, and plates.
click link.
The Casimir Effect:angel:

wiki "The net outward normal electric flux through any closed surface is proportional to the total electric charge enclosed within that closed surface.
The law can be expressed mathematically using vector calculus in integral form and differential form, both are equivalent since they are related by the divergence theorem, also called Gauss's theorem. Each of these forms in turn can also be expressed two ways: In terms of a relation between the electric field E and the total electric charge, or in terms of the electric displacement field D and the free electric charge.[4]
Equation involving E field"

i make a prediction, i can use 3 superconductors as my south pole, and three for my north pole. its really a mono pole. can you see it?:cool:

this is the way the PMH works. The magnetic componet is in motion in the bar. we speed them up by pulling the bar with force several times.

I say static will find a nice new home on the PMH. i say i can get even more energy because i made it dynamic.

aluminum foil is my tube it never touches the magnet. it encircles it. now i have a changing static, electrical, magnetic field. all  the component by natures view.  what did we do?

but wait didnt Ed tell us also? i think he did, outlined in the induction patent, and described in his book.

one round magnet all south pole, he did that. one round magnet all north pole. he did that too.:D:)

i think we can do this algebraicly. its the speed of collaps a conductor can carry.
it is expressed as surface area on round objects.
it is the distance and momentum a magnetic field collaps carries.
the amount of charge on that area. and the speed of collaps, and duration.
we include at least these variables.
therfore the collaps in a large inductor can be catastrophic.
we know these inductors get hot.

for surface charge is kinetic Its just waiting for a nudge.
the mit lectures are posted describing density of equal potential surfaces. they to have a magnetic field break down, its the same thing.Angel
anything that is electric, has a magnetic component. if you charge a cap with static energy, when it is discharged suddenly you have a larger spark then before. it can run in self occilation with this system you can charge a larger cap with a higher density charge.


I hope you can see why the experiments of henry cavendish opened up a new way of thinking for me. you must draw conclusions. I did the work, i made the summery.

here is your chance to get all the free energy you want for about 30 bucks.

nice.

I thank the people who had seen my experiments, and made a comment. for the most part only a handful.    The effect is due to scooping off charge, and storing it. I have 300 kv, my goal 50 kv for free.

i can now do the same thing with planet Earth. send me a half mile of fine iron wire and i will prove it.. cheers..:cool:

here is a place to start, if your interested. http://www.archive.org/stream/electricalresear00caveuoft#page/4/mode/2up

i am open if any one would like to help me develop this static means of getting free charge, by not destroying the dipole to ground.  you have all the tools now, so what is it we need to do?

i am not in it for money, i am here to inspire you, and continue learning what i can. :shy:

"Thomas E. Bearden


A SIMPLE FREE EM ENERGY FLOW DEVICE

Even in the hoary old CEM/EE model, continuous free flow of EM energy from a static source does creep in and cannot be eliminated. E.g., consider an electron or charged capacitor laid on a permanent magnet, so that the E-field of the electrical component is at a 90 degree angle to the H-field of the magnet. By standard Poynting energy flow theory, an energy flow vector S from that static arrangement is present, is continuous, is maximized, and is ongoing. The energy comprising the “static” EM field is in motion, as given by the simple formula S = E ´ H.
This problem is sometimes noted by scientists, but “what is in motion, and how” has not been resolved because classical electrodynamic and electrical engineers erroneously assume that both the E of the electret and the H of the permanent magnet are “static” fields, not involving any sort of “energy flow”. That of course is false. It ignores the fact that any EM field is already a set of ongoing EM energy flows (Whittaker, 1903, 1904). Hence both the “static” E and the “static” H are already ongoing EM energy flows continuously extracted from the active vacuum by the associated source charges (magnetic poles or electrical charges as the case may be) (Bearden, 2000, 2002)."




so I add this also.
/watch?v=hIkNY5xjy5k

:D:P:P
 magnetic field, charge density=back emf.  it is a accumulator device. do you believe me now?

 /watch?v=w60SIHwOztk

/watch?v=PxKNy-hweMw  

at 13 min plus i have a magnetic field collapsing.:s observe. ouch.. sob..


sooner or later , peace..

my Jacobs latter, as my teather, now what did we do.

imagine?:angel:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-75

wikiThe primary objective of STS-75 was to carry the Tethered Satellite System Reflight (TSS-1R) into orbit and to deploy it spaceward on a conducting tether. The mission also flew the United States Microgravity Payload (USMP-3) designed to investigate materials science and condensed matter physics.


Tethered Satellite System deployment
The TSS-1R mission was a reflight of TSS-1 which was flown onboard Space Shuttle Atlantis on STS-46 in July/August 1992. The Tether Satellite System circled the Earth at an altitude of 296 kilometers, placing the tether system within the rarefied electrically charged layer of the atmosphere known as the ionosphere.
STS-75 mission scientist hoped to deploy the tether to a distance of 20.7 kilometres (12.9 mi). Over 19 kilometers of the tether were deployed before the tether broke. It remained in orbit for a number of weeks and was easily visible from the ground, appearing something like a small but surprisingly bright fluorescent light traveling through the sky.
TSS-1R.

TSS-1R tether composition [NASA].
The specific TSS1-R mission objectives were: characterize the current-voltage response of the TSS-orbiter system, characterize the satellite's high-voltage sheath structure and current collection process, demonstrate electric power generation, verify tether control laws and basic tether dynamics, demonstrate the effect of neutral gas on the plasma sheath and current collection, characterize the TSS radio frequency and plasma wave emissions and characterize the TSS dynamic-electrodynamic coupling.
TSS-1R Science Investigations included: TSS Deployer Core Equipment and Satellite Core Equipment (DCORE/SCORE), Research on Orbital Plasma Electrodynamics (ROPE), Research on Electrodynamic Tether Effects (RETE), Magnetic Field Experiment for TSS Missions (TEMAG), Shuttle Electrodynamic Tether System (SETS), Shuttle Potential and Return Electron Experiment (SPREE), Tether Optical Phenomena Experiment (TOP), Investigation of Electromagnetic Emissions by the Electrodynamic Tether (EMET), Observations at the Earth's Surface of Electromagnetic Emissions by TSS (OESSE), Investigation and Measurement of Dynamic Noise in the TSS (IMDN), Theoretical and Experimental Investigation of TSS Dynamics (TEID) and the Theory and Modeling in Support of Tethered Satellite Applications (TMST).
The USMP-3 payload consisted of four major experiments mounted on two Mission Peculiar Experiment Support Structures (MPESS) and three Shuttle Mid-deck experiments. The experiments were: Advanced Automated Directional Solidification Furnace (AADSF), Material pour l'Etude des Phenomenes Interessant la Solidification sur Terre et en Orbite (MEPHISTO), Space Acceleration Measurement System (SAMS), Orbital Acceleration Research Experiment (OARE), Critical Fluid Light Scattering Experiment (ZENO) and Isothermal Dendritic Growth Experiment (IDGE).
STS-75 also was the first use of an operating system based on Linux kernel on orbit. An older Digital Unix program, originally on DEC Alpha servers, was ported to run on Linux on a laptop. The next use of Linux was a year later, on STS-83.[1]
STS-75 was the shuttle mission described in the fictional NASA Document 12-571-3570, although this document was disseminated several years before STS-75 was launched. The document purports to report on experiments to determine effective sexual positions in microgravity. Astronomer and scientific writer Pierre Kohler mistook this document for fact and is responsible for a major increase in its redistribution in the early 21st century.
"UFO" incident[edit]
Excerpts of video footage shot from STS-75 have been widely circulated by UFO enthusiasts, who believe that visual anomalies in the footage represent an unexplained paranormal phenomenon.[2] The STS-75 crew identified the "UFOs" as small particles of debris filmed out of focus. Space journalist James Oberg wrote an analysis of the footage giving further detail.[citation needed]
Referencesi make this devise and here it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob%27s_Ladder

it is the jacob latter, but it goes down instead of up.

the caps will charge indeed..:D

thanks "Tesla, the higher the better.":heart::sleepy:

wow i am drained..:sleepy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_brothers

more fun /watch?v=JhOzsFfG1rc

I make a prediction, surface areaa is equal to voltage, and it maximum order.

if i had a mile of wire, the current will knock you on your ass.  so if 7.5 kv at .2 milli amp becomes 7.5 kv at 1 amp. we make a connection.

if i have more then one amp i can now messure surface charge density as a matter of magnetic break down.:P


algebra

hnm  :@

/watch?v=NNZFDaEYiDM:heart:

/watch?v=qwVOp-HPIVE

/watch?v=g6ipm6r7h-Y

/watch?v=RwK_yjEFH3U

In light of  theory, and with added proof.:angel:

please download and upload these movies to your utube, in hopes they never get lost again.

we now have the experiments with static, and working models  on how to use it..

it is a  very important breakthrough, and needed to be documented  very well, or to the best of our understanding.

I have done the best i can in passing on the information i had discovered. its up to you to understand, and duplicate.

I have reached the pinnacle of my career, and have a better understanding about the nature of static, and its free use.

i will be doing more invention now and less posting on these devises. it is in my sight to attaches your machines to the wheel works of nature granted everything we had  learned, and shared together at open source.


cheers people..

a book in every home, here is a book that is coded, the code is not understood, but when it is we will be in the age of
enlightenment.

this pdf has its roots grounded in thought, time, and space.

you are the first to see this PDF after it was downloaded.

i anticipate the journey through the minds eye, and hope to have a better

understanding of the author, and the messeges contained therof..:cool::D