I found this Patent, Looks awfully similar, but no english.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33433905/Muammer-Yildiz-Magnet-Motor-Blueprints
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33433905/Muammer-Yildiz-Magnet-Motor-Blueprints
Yildiz Magnet Motor
Matt Watts
RE: Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #76, on April 28th, 2013, 10:02 PM »Last edited on April 28th, 2013, 10:21 PM by Matt Watts
I found this Patent, Looks awfully similar, but no english.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33433905/Muammer-Yildiz-Magnet-Motor-Blueprints
The best description I have seen so far is the one Lynx referenced from Rex Research. Somewhere in this thread he attached a PDF that one can almost build from.Quote from KevinW_EnhancedLiving on April 28th, 2013, 07:08 PM I found this Patent, Looks awfully similar, but no english.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33433905/Muammer-Yildiz-Magnet-Motor-Blueprints
Thanks for sharing K, as I couldn't find any copyright issues with it I thought I'd just as well attach it here.
You mean this one, http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=917&pid=11712#pid11712 ?Quote from Dog-One on April 28th, 2013, 10:02 PM The best description I have seen so far is the one Lynx referenced from Rex Research. Somewhere in this thread he attached a PDF that one can almost build from.Quote from KevinW_EnhancedLiving on April 28th, 2013, 07:08 PM I found this Patent, Looks awfully similar, but no english.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33433905/Muammer-Yildiz-Magnet-Motor-Blueprints
Thanks for sharing K, as I couldn't find any copyright issues with it I thought I'd just as well attach it here.
jonardaron
RE: Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #79, on May 2nd, 2013, 10:55 PM »Last edited on May 5th, 2013, 07:48 PM by jonardaron
The one from RexResearch is the patent to the new version of his magnet motor. Kevin's link relates to the old version I think? Confusing^^
Here are all the patents ... http://www.bsmhturk.com/in_the_news/introducing_yildiz_motor.html
In overunity they once rebuilt the principle ... and it did not work. Shall we try a second time? Or did the license arrive at yours, Dog-One?
I'm also wondering if we couldn't apply the same principle to an axial design? Until now i've merely seen radial (cylindrical != disk) motors/generators.
Edit: k, figured out, there is an axial calloway V-gate design of magnetmotor.at? And in general (without external help: gravity, other magnets, hair dryer) it does not work!!
The point where the rotor reaches the widest part of the V is the critical point where the motor stops. Gravity alone could be too weak to get over this point. Then it makes sence that the turkish magnet motor uses a 2nd stator with strong magnets to support gravity (for getting over such breaking points).
I heard some even used a hair dry blower to get the motor over this exact point (transition from narrowst to widest of the V) for the videos. The question is, if this isn't possible with gravity and magnet forces (2nd stator) too?
Btw, it would only work for a radial design (btw the V-way magnets have to be kept at the stator such that the V-narrow-wide-transit is always supported by gravity and not counteracted as it is if the V is on the rotor and you fix the only driving magnet with an ellipsoid against gravity as seen in the videos). Here is a very good explanation of the basic principle!
Have you read the new article of Sterling Allen? He just switched in in the overunity discussion. And definitely this complete Yildiz magnet story is either laden of bad luck or a fake.
@DogOne: Already got a response to your license request?
Here are all the patents ... http://www.bsmhturk.com/in_the_news/introducing_yildiz_motor.html
In overunity they once rebuilt the principle ... and it did not work. Shall we try a second time? Or did the license arrive at yours, Dog-One?
I'm also wondering if we couldn't apply the same principle to an axial design? Until now i've merely seen radial (cylindrical != disk) motors/generators.
Edit: k, figured out, there is an axial calloway V-gate design of magnetmotor.at? And in general (without external help: gravity, other magnets, hair dryer) it does not work!!
The point where the rotor reaches the widest part of the V is the critical point where the motor stops. Gravity alone could be too weak to get over this point. Then it makes sence that the turkish magnet motor uses a 2nd stator with strong magnets to support gravity (for getting over such breaking points).
I heard some even used a hair dry blower to get the motor over this exact point (transition from narrowst to widest of the V) for the videos. The question is, if this isn't possible with gravity and magnet forces (2nd stator) too?
Btw, it would only work for a radial design (btw the V-way magnets have to be kept at the stator such that the V-narrow-wide-transit is always supported by gravity and not counteracted as it is if the V is on the rotor and you fix the only driving magnet with an ellipsoid against gravity as seen in the videos). Here is a very good explanation of the basic principle!
Have you read the new article of Sterling Allen? He just switched in in the overunity discussion. And definitely this complete Yildiz magnet story is either laden of bad luck or a fake.
@DogOne: Already got a response to your license request?
In overunity they once rebuilt the principle ... and it did not work. Shall we try a second time? Or did the license arrive at yours, Dog-One?
Yildiz strikes me as the kind of guy that will catch you a fish or two, then want to sell you some more fish. He will never teach you how to fish.
Dear Mr. ########,
I am sorry for the delay of the messages. We are receiving hundreds of messages everyday, and cannot reply them on time. Unfortunately, we are not able to respond all the individual questions.
Our aim is to go to mass production as soon as possible. In these days, we are very busy, making meetings with the investors, who are willing to manufacture the motors worldwide.
If you wish to become a manufacturer too, we kindly ask from you to send us your company profile and a letter of your intentions attached, in order to arrange a meeting.
Best regards,
Arch.
Halil TURKMEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeMrttj8Ucg
Lets just hope Bob Rohner's approach don't end up the same way.
jonardaron
RE: Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #82, on July 6th, 2013, 05:57 AM »Last edited on July 6th, 2013, 05:59 AM by jonardaron
Some news here on my site.
I found some time but run into big trouble trying to test shielding: The shield stops magnetic field, it simply redirects it into its [shield] own material. If now the shielded magnet tries to pass by the other magnet, heavy interaction still occurs.
That I didn't think of prior to the experiment with the shielding materials. The reason turned out as follows:
Even though there are paramagnetic materials like Nickel, Aluminium, Bismut, et alia, that do not or only very little interact with magnets, then with those materials we have the problem that they don't stop the magnetic field either. So they are no shield.
And the materials that are useful as shields are heavily interacting with magnets (as we all know most metals, e.g. ferrite iron, simply attract magnets' both south and north poles).
So here we have to redefine the problem for shielding. What we would need to create a magnet motor using this principle:
That makes me almost desperate. One more version I will try, that is the field shifting using an independent other field method.
Did I miss anything new in the meantime?
I found some time but run into big trouble trying to test shielding: The shield stops magnetic field, it simply redirects it into its [shield] own material. If now the shielded magnet tries to pass by the other magnet, heavy interaction still occurs.
That I didn't think of prior to the experiment with the shielding materials. The reason turned out as follows:
Even though there are paramagnetic materials like Nickel, Aluminium, Bismut, et alia, that do not or only very little interact with magnets, then with those materials we have the problem that they don't stop the magnetic field either. So they are no shield.
And the materials that are useful as shields are heavily interacting with magnets (as we all know most metals, e.g. ferrite iron, simply attract magnets' both south and north poles).
So here we have to redefine the problem for shielding. What we would need to create a magnet motor using this principle:
- Material that shields the magnetic field.
- AND nevertheless does not interact with magnets at all. (this is the new criteria that had to be added after the experiment).
That makes me almost desperate. One more version I will try, that is the field shifting using an independent other field method.
Did I miss anything new in the meantime?
This is not my primary area of interest, but I ran across this theory which provides an explanation of how magnetic motors work. Someone here might be interested in it.
http://www.worldnpa.org/pdf/ebooks/Pitknen-AboutStrangeEffectsRelatedtoRotatingMagneticSystems.pdf
About Strange Effects Related to Rotating Magnetic Systems
The basic hypothesis of Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD) is that spacetime
is representable as a 4-surface in 8-dimensional space M4 × CP2. The
notion of many-sheeted space-time forced by this hypothesis implies numerous
new physics effects; including over-unity energy production and anti-gravity.
The Searl machine is discussed.
http://www.worldnpa.org/pdf/ebooks/Pitknen-AboutStrangeEffectsRelatedtoRotatingMagneticSystems.pdf
About Strange Effects Related to Rotating Magnetic Systems
The basic hypothesis of Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD) is that spacetime
is representable as a 4-surface in 8-dimensional space M4 × CP2. The
notion of many-sheeted space-time forced by this hypothesis implies numerous
new physics effects; including over-unity energy production and anti-gravity.
The Searl machine is discussed.