Just had a thought... the basis behind the proton adsorption on a "groomed" platinum surface appears to be quantum tunneling... it's energetically preferred for the proton to be adsorbed into the platinum surface rather than being re-protonated by the water molecule due to the angle of the water molecule hanging off that platinum "terrace". We're essentially tricking the water by allowing it to undergo its natural process of deprotonation (which it does all the time as the water molecules swap hydrogens), but grabbing those protons before the water molecules can.

This leads to three thoughts... first, how can we make this process even faster? If we charged up the platinum surface like a capacitor to a large negative voltage (since protons are positively charged), that might do it, but that might also change the orientation of the water molecules hanging off the edges of those platinum "terraces", thereby destroying what we're trying to accomplish. Experimentation is in order.

Second thought... the protons quantum tunneling through the platinum will eventually reach the carbon fiber that I'd discussed using as a plate filler material to coat with platinum... and it's the protons in hydrogen that cause carbon to spontaneously rearrange into diamond... I'm wondering if that'd happen with carbon fiber, given that the carbon fiber is pretty well insulated by the bonding agent used in making the carbon fiber.

Third thought... if dry carbon fiber material were coated with platinum and used in an electrolyzer to gather those protons, that insulating bonding agent wouldn't be there... that might be one avenue to making large and molecularly perfect diamonds. There's no heat, no pressure, no contaminants to cause any occlusions in the diamond... you could literally make diamond glass sheets.

interesting.

i had a thought experiment.

what would happen if a light bulb flash went off inside of a coil of wire? light is electro magnetic radiation.  It begs to answer a question.

if for a spit second a high intensity flash was to go off, like that from a good flash camera, would a volt meter be able to pic up the spike?

it is a increasing potential, magnetic flux.How can the light be used to cause a magnetic induction in a coil of fine wire.?  with a magnet we have increasing magnetic flux when we bring the magnet in very fast to a coil of wire. what is really happening?

for some reason i am theorizing that the magnet flux is a state of displacement of ions, or perhaps the aether.  in that case when a magnet is moved very fast into a coil of wire we get a volt spike.  what had happened?  the movment of the flux field caused an induction in the coil.

was it the magnetic flux in the magnet, or the state of the Aether that surrounds it?

possible answer, lets say instead of  just a coil of wire, we make it an open surface, now we have a foil and a coil attached,

experiment, any flash that now goes off can now cause a displacement on the open surface, if then we pulse ions down a channel we would accelerate them, and again use this energy directly in a beam..

As regards the above post, putting graphene on platinum... it may be what we want to do... some of you were talking about making your dissociation cell tubes such that they act as capacitors.

Given that graphene on platinum turns into diamond, what we're essentially doing is creating a DLC (Diamond-Like Coating), which is a well-known process to increase wear life of parts in machinery. The DLC process deposits a thin film of molecular diamond on the metal surface, imparting to that surface the hardness of diamonds, but since it's such a thin coating, it's flexible enough to stay molecularly bonded to the metal even as the metal expands and contracts. Because it does away with the stress risers on the surface of metals, it makes it much more difficult for that metal to get stress-induced crack propagation. It's also a low-friction surface with superior heat transfer properties.

What isn't so well known about DLC is that while it's considered an insulator, under certain circumstances with certain types of DLC it can act as a semiconductor, wherein the electrons exhibit "electron hopping" conduction. This may be a good thing for essentially turning the tubes in the dissociation devices into "leaky capacitors" that only conduct a little bit at high voltages, but otherwise don't conduct.

I've been researching various metal treatments to toughen up the drivetrain in my high-fuel-efficiency scooter project and reduce friction to its lowest level possible. That's how I learned about DLC.

Quote from firepinto on July 24th, 2011, 06:14 PM

That is an interesting point.  I wonder how Stan's kits were going to get around that if it was a problem?  Most cars in the 80's and 90's had negative chassis, I think Porsche still made some positive ones or still do?  Maybe the kit was going to include a rewired starter motor?  Not to mention rewiring everything else like the radio.

Nate

Exactly Right
Dan

Quote from Blazer on July 25th, 2011, 10:12 AM

That is an interesting point.  I wonder how Stan's kits were going to get around that if it was a problem?  Most cars in the 80's and 90's had negative chassis, I think Porsche still made some positive ones or still do?  Maybe the kit was going to include a rewired starter motor?  Not to mention rewiring everything else like the radio.

Nate


Hi All another observation to confirm something different on Stans Buggy.  If you look at the first run video you can see a large alternator. In the view from the rear of the buggy you see the back of the alternator??  If the motor spun clockwise would not the alternator spin counterclockwise??  I often wondered why he used the VW aluminium engine.  That is the only commonly used engine I know of that is air cooled and each cylinder is independantly bolted to the block. I think he could have isolated and changed ground at the combustion cylinder at a couple of locations. Cylinder to block?? Cylimder to head??  He may have even isolated the head gasket and used that as the ground?? Just some thoughts.

Joe Cell also use the Aluminium Engine and aluminium is non magnetic but it can hold h2 int he metal, fuel lines have to be aluminium to avoid becoming magnetic from h2 and making a block etc