I have been working on a  hydrogen engine for over 15 years. It weighs 40 lbs, has 5 moving parts, turns 10,000 rpm, has the power of a six cylinder engine and best of all - its designed to run on hydrogen. I filled 3 patents on the engine and was published in June by the PTO office. Please see copies of the patents attached.  

It has taken many years to put this together - the good news its a done deal. I am happy to share it with you and the community. I personally want to get it out to the world, its important to change the dynamic in the fuel wars, its time to get us off of hydrocarbon fuels. Well here is my part, here is my contribution. Yes it is patented, and yes we will be licensing the technology to others.


With Respect, Boots-2b1

Quote from Boots-2b1 on December 2nd, 2012, 09:15 PM

I have been working on a  hydrogen engine for over 15 years. It weighs 40 lbs, has 5 moving parts, turns 10,000 rpm, has the power of a six cylinder engine and best of all - its designed to run on hydrogen. I filled 3 patents on the engine and was published in June by the PTO office. Please see copies of the patents attached.  

It has taken many years to put this together - the good news its a done deal. I am happy to share it with you and the community. I personally want to get it out to the world, its important to change the dynamic in the fuel wars, its time to get us off of hydrocarbon fuels. Well here is my part, here is my contribution. Yes it is patented, and yes we will be licensing the technology to others.

With Respect, Boots-2b1

So we have your permission to replicate your work (final product) for personal use?  If so, many, many thanks.  You are very generous and I'm sure everyone on this forum appreciates your gesture and your presence here.

Hello Boots-2b1,

You sure have put in the hards yards.

During your work did you come across any who have solved the Hydrogen storage problem yet? With that defeated and your engine its a winner all the way!

Cheers Peter

Thanks for sharing, welcome to the forum!

Quote from DaS Energy on December 2nd, 2012, 10:51 PM

Hello Boots-2b1,

You sure have put in the hards yards.

During your work did you come across any who have solved the Hydrogen storage problem yet? With that defeated and your engine its a winner all the way!

Cheers Peter

Hi Peter, I have herd of chicken feathers backed at 800 degrees turns into carbon with a lats structure which can be can be used like Hydride. We need some of the bright people to burn the midnight oil and come up some storage. Right now I am producing hydrogen with a 9"x12" cell at 220V PWM at ruffly 10K on demand.

Boots-2b1

Hello Boots-2b1,

I have to give it you!

I played round with Hydrogen for a while, but got taken over to CO2.

Stopped on Hydrogen before testing if Goana fat would seal Hydrogen container. Goana fat will permeate glass, so thinking down the lines it may block off the spaces in container metal?  Other thought not tested was to freeze the Hydrogen and flash it off as required.

Good luck with everything Cobber!

Cheers Peter[/quote]Hi Peter, I have herd of chicken feathers backed at 800 degrees turns into carbon with a lats structure which can be can be used like Hydride. We need some of the bright people to burn the midnight oil and come up some storage. Right now I am producing hydrogen with a 9"x12" cell at 220V PWM at ruffly 10K on demand.

Boots-2b1[/quote]

Quote from Dog-One on December 2nd, 2012, 10:05 PM

Quote from Boots-2b1 on December 2nd, 2012, 09:15 PM

I have been working on a  hydrogen engine for over 15 years. It weighs 40 lbs, has 5 moving parts, turns 10,000 rpm, has the power of a six cylinder engine and best of all - its designed to run on hydrogen. I filled 3 patents on the engine and was published in June by the PTO office. Please see copies of the patents attached.  

It has taken many years to put this together - the good news its a done deal. I am happy to share it with you and the community. I personally want to get it out to the world, its important to change the dynamic in the fuel wars, its time to get us off of hydrocarbon fuels. Well here is my part, here is my contribution. Yes it is patented, and yes we will be licensing the technology to others.

With Respect, Boots-2b1

So we have your permission to replicate your work (final product) for personal use?  If so, many, many thanks.  You are very generous and I'm sure everyone on this forum appreciates your gesture and your presence here.

Hi Dog-One,http://open-source-energy.org/forum/images/smilies/shy.gif
Yes,  you can build one for yourself, if however you want to sell to others you will need a license from us. The idea is get the engine out to as many people as possible, hopefully you will want to build and sell the engine,  in turn you will pay us a small royalty for the usage. You end up with a company selling very unique engines, we make something for our efforts and the world gets an engine that runs on hydrogen  - no fossil fuels, 5 moving parts, no oil etc. If you build one, please keep me posted on your development, pics any kind of data etc.

Lets make a difference,

With Respect, Boots-2b1

Quote from Boots-2b1 on December 3rd, 2012, 09:39 PM

Hi Dog-One,http://open-source-energy.org/forum/images/smilies/shy.gif
Yes,  you can build one for yourself, if however you want to sell to others you will need a license from us. The idea is get the engine out to as many people as possible, hopefully you will want to build and sell the engine,  in turn you will pay us a small royalty for the usage. You end up with a company selling very unique engines, we make something for our efforts and the world gets an engine that runs on hydrogen  - no fossil fuels, 5 moving parts, no oil etc. If you build one, please keep me posted on your development, pics any kind of data etc.

Lets make a difference,

With Respect, Boots-2b1

Hopefully I can get that far.  You wouldn't by chance have any IronCAD drawings of your engine you would be willing to share?  I know there are guys on this forum that do quite a bit of 3D printing--a few plastic prototypes floating around would sure be helpful to get things started.

Funny you should pop on the forum, I was just amazed the other night looking at this engine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI1JLbnW3Sg

Great design, seems even simpler than the MYT engine.  I'm just getting started on a homemade generator that will be used for testing various fuels, including HHO, to collect data and help develop these technologies.  I was going to use a one cylinder moped engine, but this engine might be a good candidate.  My goal is to run a DC generator and vary the load on the engine, and constantly monitor the input/output.  Basically a test cell/dyno, but at a smaller scale.  What kind of HP are we talking?  I might have to up my DC generator/load bank if the it's comparable to a six cylinder...

Quote from Badger on December 4th, 2012, 07:00 AM

Great design, seems even simpler than the MYT engine.  I'm just getting started on a homemade generator that will be used for testing various fuels, including HHO, to collect data and help develop these technologies.  I was going to use a one cylinder moped engine, but this engine might be a good candidate.  My goal is to run a DC generator and vary the load on the engine, and constantly monitor the input/output.  Basically a test cell/dyno, but at a smaller scale.  What kind of HP are we talking?  I might have to up my DC generator/load bank if the it's comparable to a six cylinder...

The design of this thing should scale pretty easily to whatever power range you need.  The MYT engine is cool to look at but lubrication and the complexity looks to be a bearcat.

Maybe Boots can tell us about lubrication and timing on this thing.  Looks so simple but I bet the tolerances have to be spot-on for it work correctly.

Quote from Dog-One on December 4th, 2012, 05:59 PM

Quote from Badger on December 4th, 2012, 07:00 AM

Great design, seems even simpler than the MYT engine.  I'm just getting started on a homemade generator that will be used for testing various fuels, including HHO, to collect data and help develop these technologies.  I was going to use a one cylinder moped engine, but this engine might be a good candidate.  My goal is to run a DC generator and vary the load on the engine, and constantly monitor the input/output.  Basically a test cell/dyno, but at a smaller scale.  What kind of HP are we talking?  I might have to up my DC generator/load bank if the it's comparable to a six cylinder...

The design of this thing should scale pretty easily to whatever power range you need.  The MYT engine is cool to look at but lubrication and the complexity looks to be a bearcat.

Maybe Boots can tell us about lubrication and timing on this thing.  Looks so simple but I bet the tolerances have to be spot-on for it work correctly.

The mechanical timingmechanism of the MYT looks intimidating. But the pistons don't touch the cylinder, lubrication is easiest with biodiesel the inventor says.

I started a MYT thread cause it wasn't mentioned on this forum yet.

Quote from Dog-One on December 3rd, 2012, 10:08 PM

Quote from Boots-2b1 on December 3rd, 2012, 09:39 PM

Hi Dog-One,http://open-source-energy.org/forum/images/smilies/shy.gif
Yes,  you can build one for yourself, if however you want to sell to others you will need a license from us. The idea is get the engine out to as many people as possible, hopefully you will want to build and sell the engine,  in turn you will pay us a small royalty for the usage. You end up with a company selling very unique engines, we make something for our efforts and the world gets an engine that runs on hydrogen  - no fossil fuels, 5 moving parts, no oil etc. If you build one, please keep me posted on your development, pics any kind of data etc.

Lets make a difference,

With Respect, Boots-2b1

Hopefully I can get that far.  You wouldn't by chance have any IronCAD drawings of your engine you would be willing to share?  I know there are guys on this forum that do quite a bit of 3D printing--a few plastic prototypes floating around would sure be helpful to get things started.

Funny you should pop on the forum, I was just amazed the other night looking at this engine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI1JLbnW3Sg

Hi Dog-One,
Interesting engine in the video clip - when I get a chance I'll check it out. My cad files are Bob-Cad, sorry.

Quote from DaS Energy on December 3rd, 2012, 09:32 PM

Hello Boots-2b1,

I have to give it you!

I played round with Hydrogen for a while, but got taken over to CO2.

Stopped on Hydrogen before testing if Goana fat would seal Hydrogen container. Goana fat will permeate glass, so thinking down the lines it may block off the spaces in container metal?  Other thought not tested was to freeze the Hydrogen and flash it off as required.

Good luck with everything Cobber!

Cheers Peter

Hi Peter,

I've never herd of Goana fat? What is it. Freezing the hydrogen seams interesting I maybe

Hi Peter, I have herd of chicken feathers backed at 800 degrees turns into carbon with a lats structure which can be can be used like Hydride. We need some of the bright people to burn the midnight oil and come up some storage. Right now I am producing hydrogen with a 9"x12" cell at 220V PWM at ruffly 10K on demand.

Boots-2b1[/quote][/quote]

Quote from Dog-One on December 4th, 2012, 05:59 PM

Quote from Badger on December 4th, 2012, 07:00 AM

Great design, seems even simpler than the MYT engine.  I'm just getting started on a homemade generator that will be used for testing various fuels, including HHO, to collect data and help develop these technologies.  I was going to use a one cylinder moped engine, but this engine might be a good candidate.  My goal is to run a DC generator and vary the load on the engine, and constantly monitor the input/output.  Basically a test cell/dyno, but at a smaller scale.  What kind of HP are we talking?  I might have to up my DC generator/load bank if the it's comparable to a six cylinder...

The design of this thing should scale pretty easily to whatever power range you need.  The MYT engine is cool to look at but lubrication and the complexity looks to be a bearcat.

Maybe Boots can tell us about lubrication and timing on this thing.  Looks so simple but I bet the tolerances have to be spot-on for it work correctly.

Hi guys,
my prototype is ruffly 12.3" in Diameter, the pistons firing area is 3" wide x 1.5" high . Yes you can scale it up for what ever power you want. Timing is done with hall effect sensors. The simplest way is to imbed the sensor in the Block I am using sensors attached to the Drive Shaft at present. I did this so it would be easier to change its position. I fire at 3 degrees past top dead center.
The second patent covers the cooling system. basically it is a hollow drive shaft with holes in it connected to the block,  there are vanes between the Bearing Plate and the Bearing Race sandwiched together that go to the outer circumference. centripetal force moves the water through the engine. Their is no need for lucubration because nothing is touching. The piston bearings are lubed and sealed at the factory. The only two points that touch have a Teflon coasting which has high lubricity when in contact with water.. You are right I keep my tolerances between 2 and 3/1000. That is why  their are no rings needed. Also all the materiel in the engine should be of the same type to allow for equal thermal expansion. dissimilar metals expand at different rates and can not be used at this close of tolerances.  

If we try, we can make a difference.

With Respect, Boots-2b1

Let's see, Bobcad files are compatible with Autocad and Solidworks, so it shouldn't be that hard to convert.  I'm not familiar with IronCAD, but I can look into it, just need to know what file extensions can be imported.

Read through some of the patents, very interesting!  My first thought was the impact of the piston vane on the peddle block being a problem, but you addressed that with the pressure increase assisting to align the vane for the next firing.  I'd love to see a video of a working engine, or even pics of your prototype.

This would be a great project to try out, I'd love to put it on the bench with a DC alternator and custom EFI kit and starting playing around with timing, different fuel combos, etc.

boots,

thanks for posting these. its an extremely interesting . i like it a lot!!

i know we have talked about a bit via email.

15 years. that's crazy and i'm congratulating you on it being finalized.

so as far as testing. any builds or any other info you ay have to help us build?!?

Blessings!! ~Russ

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 6th, 2012, 09:15 AM

boots,

thanks for posting these. its an extremely interesting . i like it a lot!!

i know we have talked about a bit via email.

15 years. that's crazy and i'm congratulating you on it being finalized.

so as far as testing. any builds or any other info you ay have to help us build?!?

Blessings!! ~Russ

The Idea is to keep it simple, light weight, made from regular materials. The engine is all positive motion going in one direction, their is no wasted intake, compression, or exhaust stroke like a normal internal combustion engine which makes this engine very efficient. As you know Hydrogen's most favorable attribute is the velocity of the exposition. This engine can utilize the speed of the explosion because it is all positive motion spinning in one direction. We are using the fuels most favorable attribute.

Its been a long push working on the patents, it feels great to have been published and finally completing the process. We will be filling an additional 2 or 3 more patents soon in the coming year which should give us a nice niche in the market. We are working on taking it to the players in the bis beginning the first of the year.  Please feel free to send the patents around,  the more people here about it the better.  

As for the development, I am on my 3rd Prototype, and have settled in on the design. I will send you some pic's over the weekend when I get a chance.

Let the magic begin

With Respect, Boots-2b1

Boots-2b1,

Do you have any watts/kilowatts shaft output to 60 RPM.

It just may be that shaft KW is enough to produce enough electrical current to seperate hydrogen and oxygen from water thereby overcoming fuel storage problems.

Cheers Peter

Quote from DaS Energy on December 6th, 2012, 07:52 PM

Boots-2b1,

Do you have any watts/kilowatts shaft output to 60 RPM.

It just may be that shaft KW is enough to produce enough electrical current to seperate hydrogen and oxygen from water thereby overcoming fuel storage problems.

Cheers Peter

I agree with Peter, we need to close-loop this motor with an alternator and an HHO dry cell and see if we can get some excess energy out of it.  As a prime mover, this really looks tops, much better than a piston driven engine as far as efficiency and simplicity.  Once running in closed-loop mode, we can work on the alternator and electrolysis cell to improve those too.

A common phenomena with HHO is that it explodes, then immediately implodes, so I wonder how that will effect the performance.  Russ, can you see a possibility of using this with sealed noble gases to replace your Popper?  Loop intake to exhaust and just let'r run...

Good idea on the popper DogOne, worth looking into.  If the outside casing was completely airtight (it's stationary, right?), the gases could just circulate inside the casing, right?

Not much info out there, but FEV has a range extender made of a Wankel rotary engine coupled with a PM alternator.  Apparently it's really compact, lightweight and powerful, but I can't find much for real numbers, especially efficiency.  I'm not a fan of Wankel engines, it's not really rotary, IMO... I do like the idea of a PM generator, so I would basically replace the wankel with this design and go after the same market.

Boots,
Any idea on the efficiency using gasoline, so it can be compared to other generators?

Quote from Badger on December 10th, 2012, 07:53 AM

Good idea on the popper DogOne, worth looking into.  If the outside casing was completely airtight (it's stationary, right?), the gases could just circulate inside the casing, right?

Not much info out there, but FEV has a range extender made of a Wankel rotary engine coupled with a PM alternator.  Apparently it's really compact, lightweight and powerful, but I can't find much for real numbers, especially efficiency.  I'm not a fan of Wankel engines, it's not really rotary, IMO... I do like the idea of a PM generator, so I would basically replace the wankel with this design and go after the same market.

Boots,
Any idea on the efficiency using gasoline, so it can be compared to other generators?

I have not run my engine on gasoline, with that said all you would have to do is change the timing. Again my engine has no separate intake, compressing or exhaust stroke so my engine by design would be 3 times more efficient. Even the Wankel rotary is a 4 stroke engine and suffers the same losses as a standard internal combustion engine.

With Respect, Boots-2b1

Quote from Dog-One on December 7th, 2012, 07:56 AM

Quote from DaS Energy on December 6th, 2012, 07:52 PM

Boots-2b1,

Do you have any watts/kilowatts shaft output to 60 RPM.

It just may be that shaft KW is enough to produce enough electrical current to seperate hydrogen and oxygen from water thereby overcoming fuel storage problems.

Cheers Peter

I agree with Peter, we need to close-loop this motor with an alternator and an HHO dry cell and see if we can get some excess energy out of it.  As a prime mover, this really looks tops, much better than a piston driven engine as far as efficiency and simplicity.  Once running in closed-loop mode, we can work on the alternator and electrolysis cell to improve those too.

A common phenomena with HHO is that it explodes, then immediately implodes, so I wonder how that will effect the performance.  Russ, can you see a possibility of using this with sealed noble gases to replace your Popper?  Loop intake to exhaust and just let'r run...

Hi All,
I do not have any specs on power output in watts, I will put that on my to do list. As for HHO imploding all you need to do is change the ratio of HH to Ox. I add exhaust and air to the  HHO mixture to keep the gas from imploding.

With Respect, Boots-2b1

Quote from Badger on December 10th, 2012, 07:53 AM

Good idea on the popper DogOne, worth looking into.  If the outside casing was completely airtight (it's stationary, right?), the gases could just circulate inside the casing, right?

Not much info out there, but FEV has a range extender made of a Wankel rotary engine coupled with a PM alternator.  Apparently it's really compact, lightweight and powerful, but I can't find much for real numbers, especially efficiency.  I'm not a fan of Wankel engines, it's not really rotary, IMO... I do like the idea of a PM generator, so I would basically replace the wankel with this design and go after the same market.

Boots,
Any idea on the efficiency using gasoline, so it can be compared to other generators?

Gasoline has higher potential than gaseous HHO. It would be much more powerful, at RPMs of less than 4,000 RPM.  above 4,000 RPMs HHO would start becoming a better fuel choice because of speed of its explosion.  My guess is it would be maybe 3 or 4 time more powerful. The engine will run on almost any fuel source.

With Respect, Boots-2b1

Funny I was just thinking today, why do we need a compression stroke to run on pure HHO?  This looks like a great little engine.:cool:  So the 3 Ninja star looking parts have a ratcheting feature so that they only turn one way?  I will have to read more.:D

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Hi Badger and All,

Here are some better pics, the patent office pics are very poor. Hope this helps.

Quote from Boots-2b1 on December 15th, 2012, 12:22 PM

Hi Badger and All,

Here are some better pics, the patent office pics are very poor. Hope this helps.

Yes, those are quite good.  You mentioned you had a prototype; any chance you could take one end plate off and get a few pictures of that?

Quote from Dog-One on December 15th, 2012, 11:20 PM

Quote from Boots-2b1 on December 15th, 2012, 12:22 PM

Hi Badger and All,

Here are some better pics, the patent office pics are very poor. Hope this helps.

Yes, those are quite good.  You mentioned you had a prototype; any chance you could take one end plate off and get a few pictures of that?

Hi Badger and One Dog,

Please find attached three pics, hope this is helpful. I have been trying to post the cad drawings as STL files but for some reason the site will not allow me to up load. I'll keep trying

Quote from Boots-2b1 on December 16th, 2012, 12:54 PM

Quote from Dog-One on December 15th, 2012, 11:20 PM

Quote from Boots-2b1 on December 15th, 2012, 12:22 PM

Hi Badger and All,

Here are some better pics, the patent office pics are very poor. Hope this helps.

Yes, those are quite good.  You mentioned you had a prototype; any chance you could take one end plate off and get a few pictures of that?

Hi Badger and One Dog,

Please find attached three pics, hope this is helpful. I have been trying to post the cad drawings as STL files but for some reason the site will not allow me to up load. I'll keep trying

Very nice parts! :cool:

We have been uploading STL files inside ZIP files.  I think it would be cool to incorporate Javaview into the forum some how to see STLs in 3d right in the thread.  I haven't figured out how possible that is.