From the September 6th 2012 meeting

Dear forum watchers

In the world of diplomacy there are no kiss and tells.

Thus we will not report what has happened in the meeting of the 6.9.2012.

The immediate outcome of the meeting and in its process of development, we confirm the establishment of the African spaceship program (ASSP).

This meaning the African nations in the coming year become part of space program and by-passing the propulsion era as this technology has no room in the real working of the motion in the universe and it is a manmade technology and is not needed.

The preliminary talks for this organisation has taken place and soon we will report the nation we have chosen as the centre for this organisation.

We have suggested and understood soon to be agreed the establishment of the South American spaceship program SASSP too.

Therefore the two continents which have not had a chance to be part of the space program in the past, now in one leap super-pass the NASA in space technology, if no problems are created by other organisations.

This is what we can report from this process of meeting and in run-up and subsequent discussions with nations which are accommodating the initial creation of these organisations.

The third international peace program is set to be for December of this year or January of next year.

In this process we invite the nationals of countries to chose their own delegation of maximum three persons to be sent to this meeting.

In this meeting we will handover the full technology to the people of the world without the presence of their governments representative, as they were informed what is to come and is for them to organise their affaires in the next three month.

Meanwhile the process of the teaching will go ahead as planed and soon you should be able to produce the first small systems for energy production of a few watts on your own.

We invite those whom have contacted us or have achieved the production of energy to start the video making of their process, that in time we will invite them to bring along and show how it is done in their way.

From today it is an open game of transfer of the Keshe Foundation technologies to you the people of this planet.

Please raise awareness of the first teaching programs on the mass media and social networks as no one should be left in darkness of light and universal knowledge.

M T Keshe
The founder and present caretaker of the Keshe Foundation

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 9th, 2012, 04:01 PM

Meanwhile the process of the teaching will go ahead as planed and soon you should be able to produce the first small systems for energy production of a few watts on your own.

Now THAT'S something to look forward to :cool: :D

Quote from Lynx on September 9th, 2012, 11:05 PM

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 9th, 2012, 04:01 PM

Meanwhile the process of the teaching will go ahead as planed and soon you should be able to produce the first small systems for energy production of a few watts on your own.

Now THAT'S something to look forward to :cool: :D

Yes it will be interesting to see what happens.:D

Hi,

Who read his book "The Universal Order of Creation of Matters".

Is it a good read?

When I look at the cover picture I see John Ernst Worrell Keely (1886) figure !!!
http://www.fortunadrago.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/keely3.png

Did he mention Keely in it?

Regards!

I just saw this over at the KF forum:

............................................................

...MTKeshe wrote:
...Dear forum watchers
...
...In this process we invite the nationals of countries to chose their own delegation of maximum three persons to be sent to this
...meeting.
...
...In this meeting we will handover the full technology to the people of the world without the presence of their governments
...representative, as they were informed what is to come and is for them to organise their affaires in the next three month.
...
...M T Keshe
...The founder and present caretaker of the Keshe Foundation


Dear Mr. Keshe,

I have difficulty to understand this part of your message. How do you think we nationals of a country have to agree on three representatives? Elections, public referendum? These would need to be organised by our governments. If they do not want? Who KF would recognise as representative of the citizens of a certain country if there has not been a decison process open to everybody?
Could you please better elaborate on this point?

Thank you very much for all your efforts.

Kind regards

Ciro

............................................................

It's an interesting question though.
How and when will these "chosen ones" be selected?
Will we be able to see who these delegates are?

Quote from Webmug on September 10th, 2012, 10:39 AM

Hi,

Who read his book "The Universal Order of Creation of Matters".

Is it a good read?

When I look at the cover picture I see John Ernst Worrell Keely (1886) figure !!!
http://www.fortunadrago.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/keely3.png

Did he mention Keely in it?

Regards!

Maybe Geert  can shed some light  on that for you Webmug, I have not read the book myself, so I can't answer.:D

Quote from Lynx on September 10th, 2012, 11:10 AM

I just saw this over at the KF forum:

............................................................

...MTKeshe wrote:
...Dear forum watchers
...
...In this process we invite the nationals of countries to chose their own delegation of maximum three persons to be sent to this
...meeting.
...
...In this meeting we will handover the full technology to the people of the world without the presence of their governments
...representative, as they were informed what is to come and is for them to organise their affaires in the next three month.
...
...M T Keshe
...The founder and present caretaker of the Keshe Foundation


Dear Mr. Keshe,

I have difficulty to understand this part of your message. How do you think we nationals of a country have to agree on three representatives? Elections, public referendum? These would need to be organised by our governments. If they do not want? Who KF would recognise as representative of the citizens of a certain country if there has not been a decison process open to everybody?
Could you please better elaborate on this point?

Thank you very much for all your efforts.

Kind regards

Ciro

............................................................

It's an interesting question though.
How and when will these "chosen ones" be selected?
Will we be able to see who these delegates are?

I would think who ever applies for an invite to the KF, up to three persons. :idea: Maybe RUSS and two other's from this forum could go, wouldn't that be a hoot, :huh: YES let's go.:cool::cool::cool::cool::D:D:D:D:P:P:P:P

Quote from Webmug on September 10th, 2012, 10:39 AM

Hi,

Who read his book "The Universal Order of Creation of Matters".

Is it a good read?

When I look at the cover picture I see John Ernst Worrell Keely (1886) figure !!!
http://www.fortunadrago.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/keely3.png

Did he mention Keely in it?

Regards!

I´m reading the book and now I´m up to page 63. Keely is not mentioned at the index. Up yet he describes how magnetic fields bind together, create magnetic and gravitational fields and create matter, antimatter and dark matter. Interestingly for me he describes how those field configurations create a torus shape and that reminds me to the torus discussion in the internet video THRIVE. For my opinion it´s a good read and sounds reasonable.
It´s all about therory up yet but he´s always pointing to practical experiments supporting his theories. He´s creating a specialized scientific language because today´s thesaurus does not allow to differentiate those magnetic fields´ details.

replicating the coke bottle experiment and understanding the underlying theory may be an adequate first step for prove of concept.

on Sept  21st my favourate professor Meyl will start the educating process for Keshe tech making a comparison for Tesla and Keshe tech. I expect to get deep insights in Keshe tech because Meyl will be able to translate Keshe´s terminology into Tesla terminology.

Stay tuned ...

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 10th, 2012, 04:30 PM

:idea: Maybe RUSS and two other's from this forum could go, wouldn't that be a hoot, :huh: YES let's go.:cool::cool::cool::cool::D:D:D:D:P:P:P:P

Tell you what Jeff: Why don't you post over at the KF forum something like "Here
are the delegates from the USA: Russ Gries, ........" and 2 other names.
See what gives, stir some sh*t up :D :P

Quote from Lynx on September 11th, 2012, 04:27 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 10th, 2012, 04:30 PM

:idea: Maybe RUSS and two other's from this forum could go, wouldn't that be a hoot, :huh: YES let's go.:cool::cool::cool::cool::D:D:D:D:P:P:P:P

Tell you what Jeff: Why don't you post over at the KF forum something like "Here
are the delegates from the USA: Russ Gries, ........" and 2 other names.
See what gives, stir some sh*t up :D :P

I did just waiting for a reply.:D

Quote from bussi04 on September 11th, 2012, 12:08 AM

Quote from Webmug on September 10th, 2012, 10:39 AM

Hi,

Who read his book "The Universal Order of Creation of Matters".

Is it a good read?

When I look at the cover picture I see John Ernst Worrell Keely (1886) figure !!!
http://www.fortunadrago.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/keely3.png

Did he mention Keely in it?

Regards!

I´m reading the book and now I´m up to page 63. Keely is not mentioned at the index. Up yet he describes how magnetic fields bind together, create magnetic and gravitational fields and create matter, antimatter and dark matter. Interestingly for me he describes how those field configurations create a torus shape and that reminds me to the torus discussion in the internet video THRIVE. For my opinion it´s a good read and sounds reasonable.
It´s all about therory up yet but he´s always pointing to practical experiments supporting his theories. He´s creating a specialized scientific language because today´s thesaurus does not allow to differentiate those magnetic fields´ details.

replicating the coke bottle experiment and understanding the underlying theory may be an adequate first step for prove of concept.

on Sept  21st my favourate professor Meyl will start the educating process for Keshe tech making a comparison for Tesla and Keshe tech. I expect to get deep insights in Keshe tech because Meyl will be able to translate Keshe´s terminology into Tesla terminology.

Stay tuned ...

Thanks Bussi for the incite to the first book. If you don't mind my asking, how much was the book?

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 11th, 2012, 05:02 AM

Quote from bussi04 on September 11th, 2012, 12:08 AM

Quote from Webmug on September 10th, 2012, 10:39 AM

Hi,

Who read his book "The Universal Order of Creation of Matters".

Is it a good read?

When I look at the cover picture I see John Ernst Worrell Keely (1886) figure !!!
http://www.fortunadrago.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/keely3.png

Did he mention Keely in it?

Regards!

I´m reading the book and now I´m up to page 63. Keely is not mentioned at the index. Up yet he describes how magnetic fields bind together, create magnetic and gravitational fields and create matter, antimatter and dark matter. Interestingly for me he describes how those field configurations create a torus shape and that reminds me to the torus discussion in the internet video THRIVE. For my opinion it´s a good read and sounds reasonable.
It´s all about therory up yet but he´s always pointing to practical experiments supporting his theories. He´s creating a specialized scientific language because today´s thesaurus does not allow to differentiate those magnetic fields´ details.

replicating the coke bottle experiment and understanding the underlying theory may be an adequate first step for prove of concept.

on Sept  21st my favourate professor Meyl will start the educating process for Keshe tech making a comparison for Tesla and Keshe tech. I expect to get deep insights in Keshe tech because Meyl will be able to translate Keshe´s terminology into Tesla terminology.

Stay tuned ...

Thanks Bussi for the incite to the first book. If you don't mind my asking, how much was the book?

pricelist: http://www.keshefoundation.org/media/buybooks.html

plus transportation and registered mail.

Now that I am at page 84 it becomes more and more interesting.

He says that the technology of transition of matter mafs has been tested out over years and several systems were designed, developed, manufactured and used to achieve the formation of original magentic fields plasmas in reactors to prove the correctness of those principles described in the book.

really interesting stuff!

Quote from bussi04 on September 11th, 2012, 05:33 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 11th, 2012, 05:02 AM

Quote from bussi04 on September 11th, 2012, 12:08 AM

Quote from Webmug on September 10th, 2012, 10:39 AM

Hi,

Who read his book "The Universal Order of Creation of Matters".

Is it a good read?

When I look at the cover picture I see John Ernst Worrell Keely (1886) figure !!!
http://www.fortunadrago.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/keely3.png

Did he mention Keely in it?

Regards!

I´m reading the book and now I´m up to page 63. Keely is not mentioned at the index. Up yet he describes how magnetic fields bind together, create magnetic and gravitational fields and create matter, antimatter and dark matter. Interestingly for me he describes how those field configurations create a torus shape and that reminds me to the torus discussion in the internet video THRIVE. For my opinion it´s a good read and sounds reasonable.
It´s all about therory up yet but he´s always pointing to practical experiments supporting his theories. He´s creating a specialized scientific language because today´s thesaurus does not allow to differentiate those magnetic fields´ details.

replicating the coke bottle experiment and understanding the underlying theory may be an adequate first step for prove of concept.

on Sept  21st my favourate professor Meyl will start the educating process for Keshe tech making a comparison for Tesla and Keshe tech. I expect to get deep insights in Keshe tech because Meyl will be able to translate Keshe´s terminology into Tesla terminology.

Stay tuned ...

Thanks Bussi for the incite to the first book. If you don't mind my asking, how much was the book?

pricelist: http://www.keshefoundation.org/media/buybooks.html

plus transportation and registered mail.

Now that I am at page 84 it becomes more and more interesting.

He says that the technology of transition of matter mafs has been tested out over years and several systems were designed, developed, manufactured and used to achieve the formation of original magentic fields plasmas in reactors to prove the correctness of those principles described in the book.

really interesting stuff!

Thanks for the info!

For me €62,39 EUR total price for one book is pretty expensive, a paperback 264 pages book without some practical information.

Quote

The Foundation will soon release the fourth and the sixth book in the series of the book of Nine.

The title of books are “The structure of solar systems” and “The systems”.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2648

Regards!

Thanks Bussi.

I am determined to remain sceptical on this.  A series of 9 books each running at a high cost is a nice way for them to gain money.  Again without any demonstrable proof of the technology.

If the technology is truly "Ours" as he repeatedly states then you would think he would make PDF versions available online etc.  Or at the very least sell them at cost value.

Everyone is entitled to make a living but this just seems like a lot of mixed messages.

Something else that bugs me is his insistence one minute that he is rendered a prisoner in Belgium effectively by the inability to travel abroad, yet in the same interview states he has technology that lets you fly undetected intercontinentally in under 10 minutes.  The two statements seem to be at odds with each other.

Anyway, I am still hopeful that this is plain old eccentricity on his part in getting things launched how he wants and not deception/delusion.

Quote from symanuk on September 12th, 2012, 08:19 AM

I am determined to remain sceptical on this.  A series of 9 books each running at a high cost is a nice way for them to gain money.  Again without any demonstrable proof of the technology.

If the technology is truly "Ours" as he repeatedly states then you would think he would make PDF versions available online etc.  Or at the very least sell them at cost value.

Everyone is entitled to make a living but this just seems like a lot of mixed messages.

Something else that bugs me is his insistence one minute that he is rendered a prisoner in Belgium effectively by the inability to travel abroad, yet in the same interview states he has technology that lets you fly undetected intercontinentally in under 10 minutes.  The two statements seem to be at odds with each other.

Anyway, I am still hopeful that this is plain old eccentricity on his part in getting things launched how he wants and not deception/delusion.

I'm looking forward to the day when I can take part of the KF documents that
which will enable me to build myself one of these generators giving me
"a few watts" of power. That would be proof enough for me that it works :cool:

Quote from Lynx on September 12th, 2012, 08:35 AM

Quote from symanuk on September 12th, 2012, 08:19 AM

I am determined to remain sceptical on this.  A series of 9 books each running at a high cost is a nice way for them to gain money.  Again without any demonstrable proof of the technology.

If the technology is truly "Ours" as he repeatedly states then you would think he would make PDF versions available online etc.  Or at the very least sell them at cost value.

Everyone is entitled to make a living but this just seems like a lot of mixed messages.

Something else that bugs me is his insistence one minute that he is rendered a prisoner in Belgium effectively by the inability to travel abroad, yet in the same interview states he has technology that lets you fly undetected intercontinentally in under 10 minutes.  The two statements seem to be at odds with each other.

Anyway, I am still hopeful that this is plain old eccentricity on his part in getting things launched how he wants and not deception/delusion.

I'm looking forward to the day when I can take part of the KF documents that
which will enable me to build myself one of these generators giving me
"a few watts" of power. That would be proof enough for me that it works :cool:

I completely agree, less talk more action is what is required from the likes of Keshe Foundation now.  The "secret" is well and truly out of the bag so practical demonstrations should be easy enough to undertake.  Any fear of reprisals seems to me a little bit overkill and the new go to excuse for anyone in the field.

I am getting announcement fatigue with all of the great breakthroughs where there is literally no substantiation.

Do I believe in the field / the technology etc - yes, I am sure that there will be the breakthrough we are all hoping to see.  Am I blindly convinced by every announcement that promises the world? experience dictates that not-a-one has panned out in the past, so no.

Show the world, share the details and in this modern age the cat can never go back into the bag.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2704 :cool:

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 10th, 2012, 04:30 PM

Quote from Lynx on September 10th, 2012, 11:10 AM

I just saw this over at the KF forum:

............................................................

...MTKeshe wrote:
...Dear forum watchers
...
...In this process we invite the nationals of countries to chose their own delegation of maximum three persons to be sent to this
...meeting.
...
...In this meeting we will handover the full technology to the people of the world without the presence of their governments
...representative, as they were informed what is to come and is for them to organise their affaires in the next three month.
...
...M T Keshe
...The founder and present caretaker of the Keshe Foundation


Dear Mr. Keshe,

I have difficulty to understand this part of your message. How do you think we nationals of a country have to agree on three representatives? Elections, public referendum? These would need to be organised by our governments. If they do not want? Who KF would recognise as representative of the citizens of a certain country if there has not been a decison process open to everybody?
Could you please better elaborate on this point?

Thank you very much for all your efforts.

Kind regards

Ciro

............................................................

It's an interesting question though.
How and when will these "chosen ones" be selected?
Will we be able to see who these delegates are?

I would think who ever applies for an invite to the KF, up to three persons. :idea: Maybe RUSS and two other's from this forum could go, wouldn't that be a hoot, :huh: YES let's go.:cool::cool::cool::cool::D:D:D:D:P:P:P:P

If a delegation of the forum come to Belgium, I would be honored that they stay at my house. We can go together to the Keshe center. I think the price for the three books in the center Keche is a 100 euro.

Geert

Quote from geert8550 on September 13th, 2012, 06:44 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 10th, 2012, 04:30 PM

Quote from Lynx on September 10th, 2012, 11:10 AM

I just saw this over at the KF forum:

............................................................

...MTKeshe wrote:
...Dear forum watchers
...
...In this process we invite the nationals of countries to chose their own delegation of maximum three persons to be sent to this
...meeting.
...
...In this meeting we will handover the full technology to the people of the world without the presence of their governments
...representative, as they were informed what is to come and is for them to organise their affaires in the next three month.
...
...M T Keshe
...The founder and present caretaker of the Keshe Foundation


Dear Mr. Keshe,

I have difficulty to understand this part of your message. How do you think we nationals of a country have to agree on three representatives? Elections, public referendum? These would need to be organised by our governments. If they do not want? Who KF would recognise as representative of the citizens of a certain country if there has not been a decison process open to everybody?
Could you please better elaborate on this point?

Thank you very much for all your efforts.

Kind regards

Ciro

............................................................

It's an interesting question though.
How and when will these "chosen ones" be selected?
Will we be able to see who these delegates are?

I would think who ever applies for an invite to the KF, up to three persons. :idea: Maybe RUSS and two other's from this forum could go, wouldn't that be a hoot, :huh: YES let's go.:cool::cool::cool::cool::D:D:D:D:P:P:P:P

If a delegation of the forum come to Belgium, I would be honored that they stay at my house. We can go together to the Keshe center. I think the price for the three books in the center Keche is a 100 euro.

Geert

That would be great Geert, thanks for the offer, I have yet to here from Keshe on this subject.:cool::D

Guy's just found out all of Keshe's books are going to be in PDF format, free to download, some of you might want to join the forum to download the PDF books, thanks.:cool::D:P
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/index.php

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 13th, 2012, 09:35 AM

Guy's just found out all of Keshe's books are going to be in PDF format, free to download, some of you might want to join the forum to download the PDF books, thanks.:cool::D:P
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/index.php

Where did you see that? Link?

Quote from Lynx on September 13th, 2012, 10:21 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 13th, 2012, 09:35 AM

Guy's just found out all of Keshe's books are going to be in PDF format, free to download, some of you might want to join the forum to download the PDF books, thanks.:cool::D:P
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/index.php

Where did you see that? Link?

I need to search for it, a member of Tinman's forum told me about it, I'm sure it's there I just need to find it as I can find the time.:D

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 13th, 2012, 12:03 PM

Quote from Lynx on September 13th, 2012, 10:21 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 13th, 2012, 09:35 AM

Guy's just found out all of Keshe's books are going to be in PDF format, free to download, some of you might want to join the forum to download the PDF books, thanks.:cool::D:P
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/index.php

Where did you see that? Link?

I need to search for it, a member of Tinman's forum told me about it, I'm sure it's there I just need to find it as I can find the time.:D

Oki, thanks.

Edit: Never mind, found it
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2506&p=5226 :cool:

Please let your voice be heard with this petition.
:cool:

http://www.change.org/petitions/united-nations-support-the-keshe-foundation-technologies-for-power-water-food-space?utm_campaign=friend_inviter_modal&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=28534841