Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation

Matt Watts

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #126, on December 15th, 2012, 11:58 PM »
He said that us here in the United States, "will know very soon."  Hope he is not planning on us knowing via the media.  I'd like to see a huge fleet of Iranian spaceships flying over my head.  That would be cool.  Sure would change the whole game wouldn't it.

Lynx

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #127, on December 16th, 2012, 01:09 AM »Last edited on December 16th, 2012, 01:10 AM by Lynx
Quote from Dog-One on December 15th, 2012, 11:58 PM
I'd like to see a huge fleet of Iranian spaceships flying over my head.  That would be cool.  Sure would change the whole game wouldn't it.
Let's just hope it only would be spaceships then, and nothing else.





geert8550

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #132, on December 23rd, 2012, 08:53 PM »Last edited on December 23rd, 2012, 09:01 PM by geert8550
Quote from sadang on December 23rd, 2012, 06:27 AM
A guy who don't waste his time...

/watch?v=kkB2g7ai2bs
Yes, I saw it before. Nice, the only thing I miss here is the graphene formation, this is actually the most important of the process to make solar cells. Only in this way can be generated a usable electrical energy. I am again going through the CO ²-file to continue the previous concept.
It worked in my testing to form graphene.
(If you missed it click here.)
(Or click here to view my FB timeline.)
 I wish there was someone else who also succeeded. I think that people find this concept not important enough to replicate it by themselves, but if this on such a simple way be possible on a larger scale, you can easily make yourself a solar cell that only needs 1/3 of the surface than a traditional solar cell. This concept can be used to replace batteries at a very cheap way. I try later larger areas, I think there it can be produced easily 12V which remains for months or even years.
My last test with the graphene and common electrode in water is after two weeks still active with 24 mV. I tried two in series and got 38mV. After the Prusa more experiments and photos.
But first things first, i build even further on the Prusa. Almost done, at this time converting a PC power supply.

Geert


sadang

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #134, on December 24th, 2012, 01:42 AM »
Hi Geert,

I know you work hard to get graphene. But I thought that it was just to prove yourself the validity of Mr. Keshe's theory and technology. Now I see you want to get graphene for solar cells. It is a good goal for you, if really want to solve your power needs. I remember that in video, Mr. Keshe said that a copper wire, coated with multilayered graphene (some thousands layers) will generate enough power to bright a led lamp. And also, he said that these kind of power generator words better on the period of night, because the magnetic fields of the Earth are less affected than on the period of day, when these are interacting with magnetic fields od the Sun.

But I vision, another methods of producing energy, or what is actually called "electrical energy". I said I vision, because I still try to deep understand Mr. Keshe's theory (beyound all other theory studied in time), as it change all our conventional and consecrated terms of physics. We all need free-energy, but what is in reality electrical current? What is in reality the voltage potential? According to the new understanding of the intimate matters, everything are fields. Magnetic fields! Why don't use magnetic fields that mother Earth and father Sun gives us free for all? The electron is not what we have learned al school! So, the voltage si not a difference of electrical charges, instead a difference of magnetic strenght fileds of all that concentrated plasmas, positioned at two different points in space, and related to their plasmatic mediu, aka Earth plasmatic magnetic fields, in which we are constantly immersed. Leedskalnin and Keely and others were absolutely right in their studies and experiments.

Sorry for these thoughts, and I wish you to obtain, as soon as possible graphene, enough for what you need.

SaDAng,

Jeff Nading

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #135, on December 24th, 2012, 05:34 AM »
Quote from sadang on December 24th, 2012, 01:42 AM
Hi Geert,

I know you work hard to get graphene. But I thought that it was just to prove yourself the validity of Mr. Keshe's theory and technology. Now I see you want to get graphene for solar cells. It is a good goal for you, if really want to solve your power needs. I remember that in video, Mr. Keshe said that a copper wire, coated with multilayered graphene (some thousands layers) will generate enough power to bright a led lamp. And also, he said that these kind of power generator words better on the period of night, because the magnetic fields of the Earth are less affected than on the period of day, when these are interacting with magnetic fields od the Sun.

But I vision, another methods of producing energy, or what is actually called "electrical energy". I said I vision, because I still try to deep understand Mr. Keshe's theory (beyound all other theory studied in time), as it change all our conventional and consecrated terms of physics. We all need free-energy, but what is in reality electrical current? What is in reality the voltage potential? According to the new understanding of the intimate matters, everything are fields. Magnetic fields! Why don't use magnetic fields that mother Earth and father Sun gives us free for all? The electron is not what we have learned al school! So, the voltage si not a difference of electrical charges, instead a difference of magnetic strenght fileds of all that concentrated plasmas, positioned at two different points in space, and related to their plasmatic mediu, aka Earth plasmatic magnetic fields, in which we are constantly immersed. Leedskalnin and Keely and others were absolutely right in their studies and experiments.

Sorry for these thoughts, and I wish you to obtain, as soon as possible graphene, enough for what you need.

SaDAng,
Good words SaDAng and yes very "so correct", thanks.:D

sadang

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #136, on December 24th, 2012, 10:16 AM »
Thanks Jeff,

Because english is not my native language it is possible to make grammatical mistakes, or fail to make me quite well understood.
Sorry for any mistakes or misunderstandings.

In the attachment is an article about bootle reactor from Elektor, 2007. It was just uploaded on facebook. Hope it will be usefull for all interested in its reproduction.

SaDAng


Jeff Nading

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #137, on December 24th, 2012, 11:30 AM »Last edited on December 24th, 2012, 11:33 AM by Jeff Nading
Quote from sadang on December 24th, 2012, 10:16 AM
Thanks Jeff,

Because english is not my native language it is possible to make grammatical mistakes, or fail to make me quite well understood.
Sorry for any mistakes or misunderstandings.

In the attachment is an article about bootle reactor from Elektor, 2007. It was just uploaded on facebook. Hope it will be usefull for all interested in its reproduction.

SaDAng
No problem sadang, glad to have you with us here at this forum and appreciate the useful input and info, thanks, Jeff.:D

geert8550

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #138, on December 25th, 2012, 02:46 AM »
Quote from sadang on December 24th, 2012, 10:16 AM
Thanks Jeff,

Because english is not my native language it is possible to make grammatical mistakes, or fail to make me quite well understood.
Sorry for any mistakes or misunderstandings.

In the attachment is an article about bootle reactor from Elektor, 2007. It was just uploaded on facebook. Hope it will be usefull for all interested in its reproduction.

SaDAng
SaDang
Thank you for the attachment i had not seen it yet. Keshe measured between the electrode and the bottle itself?
I find it a pity that for such a simple concept kept pretty much secrets. It would be a great help if everything now be published as it should. The graphene is necessary for the inner core to be coated, maybe that is why they remain confusing and incomplete information. Fortunately, we are here to change this situation. I'm glad you help me SaDang, thanks.
I am a member of an FB-study group with people around the world, each has his occupation which I approach the graphene problem.
Many are rushing to replicate the reactor but it is still too early to do this. The Keshe study group, of the forum, will deal with that when they are guided bij Keshe because it is expensive in equipment and dangerous with limited knowledge. I think it is better, just like Keshe, starting with the dynamishe coke reactor, which is why I continu my studies in this item.

Geert

sadang

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #139, on December 25th, 2012, 11:33 PM »
Hi Geert,

Based on my actual understandings Mr. Keshe measure between electrodes, because between them there is actually an activated kind of plasma, due to the previous licquid solution reaction. Between electrodes there are a permanent interchange of pmfs, I think if we would can see these pmfs dinamics it would look as a puffy cloud. Right now I have in vision the Twin Principles and and its N-S and S-N permanent interchange, and also its multiple layers at nano-levels with their pemanent pmfs interchange at each nano-layer level and between layers.

This is the imagine I have in my mind when I look at the Cola bottle static reactor. That plasma cloud between electrodes is in a dynamic state, even it is unseen by our eyes, due to internal permanent interaction according to its constituents individual MAGRAVS, and also due to the main important Earth MAGRAVS.  

And an rethorical questions: What is Mr Keshe is really measuring beetwen cooper electrodes? An electric current or a magnetic current? Who are the charges carriers: electrons, protons, ions or noone of them? What if Mr. Keshe will try to measure the resulted current? I suppose it will be zero. And also I suppose that, due to the fact that the digital multimeter operating principle, when he measure the voltage difference between different electrodes, he in reality, measure a magnetic strenght difference, which interact with the internal electronics components own pmfs and thus the multimeter convert this difference in a numeric value, which we read and interpret according to our conventions and terms of known physics.

I am also a member of FB-study groups and of Keshe Translation groups, and my personal desire is to understand as deep as I can Mr. Keshe's Theory and experiments, because I feel his theory is real and most complete and deepest theory that I read and studied until now. Even if we talk about phisycs, chemistry, biology, astronomy or any other fileds of science. And its practical implementations at our macro level of existence is unlimited.

Sorry for this long message, but with our actual limited words and primitive level of comunications, it is very hard to express myself as deep and complete as I wish, especially in the case of this exceptionally beautiful subject.

SaDAng

Jeff Nading

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #140, on December 26th, 2012, 05:21 AM »Last edited on December 26th, 2012, 05:23 AM by Jeff Nading
Quote from sadang on December 25th, 2012, 11:33 PM
Hi Geert,

Based on my actual understandings Mr. Keshe measure between electrodes, because between them there is actually an activated kind of plasma, due to the previous licquid solution reaction. Between electrodes there are a permanent interchange of pmfs, I think if we would can see these pmfs dinamics it would look as a puffy cloud. Right now I have in vision the Twin Principles and and its N-S and S-N permanent interchange, and also its multiple layers at nano-levels with their pemanent pmfs interchange at each nano-layer level and between layers.

This is the imagine I have in my mind when I look at the Cola bottle static reactor. That plasma cloud between electrodes is in a dynamic state, even it is unseen by our eyes, due to internal permanent interaction according to its constituents individual MAGRAVS, and also due to the main important Earth MAGRAVS.  

And an rethorical questions: What is Mr Keshe is really measuring beetwen cooper electrodes? An electric current or a magnetic current? Who are the charges carriers: electrons, protons, ions or noone of them? What if Mr. Keshe will try to measure the resulted current? I suppose it will be zero. And also I suppose that, due to the fact that the digital multimeter operating principle, when he measure the voltage difference between different electrodes, he in reality, measure a magnetic strenght difference, which interact with the internal electronics components own pmfs and thus the multimeter convert this difference in a numeric value, which we read and interpret according to our conventions and terms of known physics.

I am also a member of FB-study groups and of Keshe Translation groups, and my personal desire is to understand as deep as I can Mr. Keshe's Theory and experiments, because I feel his theory is real and most complete and deepest theory that I read and studied until now. Even if we talk about phisycs, chemistry, biology, astronomy or any other fileds of science. And its practical implementations at our macro level of existence is unlimited.

Sorry for this long message, but with our actual limited words and primitive level of comunications, it is very hard to express myself as deep and complete as I wish, especially in the case of this exceptionally beautiful subject.

SaDAng
Sadang, I know this is pointed to Geert, but I just have to say thus far you are doing a great job of communicating with us, and your level of understanding of Keshe's technology as well as Geerts astounds me.
    I had never thought the coke bottle experiment , to be anything but voltage output, but in reality, has to do with magnetic fluxes [magnetic current] and earth magravs and to realize that this is what the multimeter is actually reading.
   This opens a new page for me. I think a mistake most people are making not understanding what the experiment is really about.
   I think your hypothesis to be correct, please keep up the good work. I want to thank both of you,  Sadang and Geert for your hard work and contribution to this forum. :cool::D:P

sadang

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #141, on December 26th, 2012, 06:20 AM »Last edited on December 26th, 2012, 06:21 AM by sadang
@ geert,
Merry Christmas to you too. Thanks for your appreciation and I'll continue the discussions on the suggested topic. I think I'll try myself to reproduce Cola bottle reactor experiment. But my fears are, like in other experiments thta I did over time, to not get me captured by the experiment and its results and going on the wrong way. I'll take a decision, only in time and when I'll consider to be ready.

@ Jeff
Merry Christmas Jeff. Thanks for your appreciation of my thoughts. I learned from life, that nothing is what it seems to be at first glance. Mainly in the case of this beautiful theory. Mr. Keshe show an experiment, explain it with his words and his way of thinking, but is our duty to understand beyond the words. To drill deep in his thoughts and to understand why he said what he said, and in what context! At least this is my way of analysis, interpretation and understanding of the seen and unseen phenomena.


FaradayEZ

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #143, on December 30th, 2012, 07:37 AM »
Quote from sadang on December 25th, 2012, 11:33 PM
Hi Geert,

Based on my actual understandings Mr. Keshe measure between electrodes, because between them there is actually an activated kind of plasma, due to the previous licquid solution reaction. Between electrodes there are a permanent interchange of pmfs, I think if we would can see these pmfs dinamics it would look as a puffy cloud. Right now I have in vision the Twin Principles and and its N-S and S-N permanent interchange, and also its multiple layers at nano-levels with their pemanent pmfs interchange at each nano-layer level and between layers.

This is the imagine I have in my mind when I look at the Cola bottle static reactor. That plasma cloud between electrodes is in a dynamic state, even it is unseen by our eyes, due to internal permanent interaction according to its constituents individual MAGRAVS, and also due to the main important Earth MAGRAVS.  

And an rethorical questions: What is Mr Keshe is really measuring beetwen cooper electrodes? An electric current or a magnetic current? Who are the charges carriers: electrons, protons, ions or noone of them? What if Mr. Keshe will try to measure the resulted current? I suppose it will be zero. And also I suppose that, due to the fact that the digital multimeter operating principle, when he measure the voltage difference between different electrodes, he in reality, measure a magnetic strenght difference, which interact with the internal electronics components own pmfs and thus the multimeter convert this difference in a numeric value, which we read and interpret according to our conventions and terms of known physics.

I am also a member of FB-study groups and of Keshe Translation groups, and my personal desire is to understand as deep as I can Mr. Keshe's Theory and experiments, because I feel his theory is real and most complete and deepest theory that I read and studied until now. Even if we talk about phisycs, chemistry, biology, astronomy or any other fileds of science. And its practical implementations at our macro level of existence is unlimited.

Sorry for this long message, but with our actual limited words and primitive level of comunications, it is very hard to express myself as deep and complete as I wish, especially in the case of this exceptionally beautiful subject.

SaDAng
There must be some current coming out of it, if you translate it to magravs or not.
Then current is a magrav exchange. Keshe made the flashlight so he does extract current from it.








Matt Watts

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #147, on February 26th, 2013, 10:48 PM »Last edited on February 26th, 2013, 10:49 PM by Matt Watts
Looks as though there is another delay with the 3-4KW generators due to failed seals:

http://forum.keshefoundation.org/showthread.php?222-Sale-of-Keshe-Foundation-3-4-KW-power-generator&s=3434abcc4b3e1d1fa7dac31c8819058e&p=8799&viewfull=1#post8799

Anyone have a damaged unit that I could take apart?  Sure like to have a look inside.

geert8550

RE: Here is the latest from the Keshe Foundation
« Reply #148, on February 27th, 2013, 11:17 AM »
Quote from Dog-One on February 26th, 2013, 10:48 PM
Looks as though there is another delay with the 3-4KW generators due to failed seals:

http://forum.keshefoundation.org/showthread.php?222-Sale-of-Keshe-Foundation-3-4-KW-power-generator&s=3434abcc4b3e1d1fa7dac31c8819058e&p=8799&viewfull=1#post8799

Anyone have a damaged unit that I could take apart?  Sure like to have a look inside.
Now they use ferrofluid seals.