Steve Meyer?

Lynx

Steve Meyer?
« on April 8th, 2012, 04:26 AM »
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed, if so please point me
to that thread Admins and feel free to delete this one.
I'm just curious about Steve Meyer, Stan's Brother, surely he must have tons
of great info on all this?
I can understand if he wants to keep a low profile though, who wouldn't given
what happened to Stan........

Jeff Nading

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #1, on April 8th, 2012, 10:11 AM »
Quote from Lynx on April 8th, 2012, 04:26 AM
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed, if so please point me
to that thread Admins and feel free to delete this one.
I'm just curious about Steve Meyer, Stan's Brother, surely he must have tons
of great info on all this?
I can understand if he wants to keep a low profile though, who wouldn't given
what happened to Stan........
I don't know if this is true or not, but I have heard he is very sick, possibly with mental illness, like I said I'm not sure.

Lynx

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #2, on April 8th, 2012, 11:20 AM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on April 8th, 2012, 10:11 AM
Quote from Lynx on April 8th, 2012, 04:26 AM
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed, if so please point me
to that thread Admins and feel free to delete this one.
I'm just curious about Steve Meyer, Stan's Brother, surely he must have tons
of great info on all this?
I can understand if he wants to keep a low profile though, who wouldn't given
what happened to Stan........
I don't know if this is true or not, but I have heard he is very sick, possibly with mental illness, like I said I'm not sure.
Oh, bummer :(
Here's hoping for the best for him then, Godspeed.

securesupplies

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #3, on April 12th, 2012, 07:49 PM »Last edited on April 16th, 2012, 02:39 PM by securesupplies
Quote from Lynx on April 8th, 2012, 11:20 AM
Quote from Jeff Nading on April 8th, 2012, 10:11 AM
Quote from Lynx on April 8th, 2012, 04:26 AM
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed, if so please point me
to that thread Admins and feel free to delete this one.
I'm just curious about Steve Meyer, Stan's Brother, surely he must have tons
of great info on all this?
I can understand if he wants to keep a low profile though, who wouldn't given
what happened to Stan........
I don't know if this is true or not, but I have heard he is very sick, possibly with mental illness, like I said I'm not sure.
Oh, bummer :(
Here's hoping for the best for him then, Godspeed.
God Bless to Steve, I believe Steve to be just as important as Stan for his valuable work on system.
Thank you From Every one Stephen

securesupplies

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #4, on September 24th, 2013, 11:44 AM »Last edited on September 24th, 2013, 11:47 AM by securesupplies
 Sum of 3 phase current is ZERO « on: May 27, 2013, 06:34:12 am » the other day i was doing amp readings on a 3 phase motor at work. I noticed that each leg had 20.9 amps more or less, but when i clamped the probe around all 3 conductors at the same time, i noticed the amperage was zero. maybe this was the secret to high voltage and very low amps ! NOTICE that in steve meyers canadian patent for a three phase circuit for 9 cells, there are three sections to the circuit, in his hydroxy generating station circuit. is the end result the cancellation of one phase by the other two? when stan meyer said to look at the snowflakes , was he referring to the pattern? is there three phase symmetry there? and does thos correspond to the phase angle of the hydrogen bond? wondering if that square circuit board on the end of all those VIC cards, that nobody seems to know about, is the key to a three phase sequencing of the signals, to cancel out the currents in the combined water bath cell array? Logged Online Hidden Administrator Hero member **** Posts: 2918 water structure and science Re: Sum of 3 phase current is ZERO « Reply #1 on: May 27, 2013, 12:15:55 pm » interesting question... Logged Online Hidden Global Moderator Hero member **** Posts: 1682 Re: Sum of 3 phase current is ZERO « Reply #2 on: May 27, 2013, 16:40:12 pm » well If you turn on a lamp and clamp the probe on the two wires feeding it, of course its going to read zero too. The clamp meter measures the magnetic field related to the current flowing on the wire... if you get current in one direction its able to measure it... but its not able to do it if you get one current canceling the other... Logged Offline Hidden Member ** Posts: 246 Re: Sum of 3 phase current is ZERO « Reply #3 on: May 30, 2013, 04:07:09 am » Hey Ali, do you have a link to Steve Myeres Canadian patent? Logged Offline Hidden Member ** Posts: 246 Re: Sum of 3 phase current is ZERO « Reply #4 on: May 31, 2013, 03:39:48 am » Quote from: Hidden on May 27, 2013, 06:34:12 am the other day i was doing amp readings on a 3 phase motor at work. I noticed that each leg had 20.9 amps more or less, but when i clamped the probe around all 3 conductors at the same time, i noticed the amperage was zero. maybe this was the secret to high voltage and very low amps ! NOTICE that in steve meyers canadian patent for a three phase circuit for 9 cells, there are three sections to the circuit, in his hydroxy generating station circuit. is the end result the cancellation of one phase by the other two? when stan meyer said to look at the snowflakes , was he referring to the pattern? is there three phase symmetry there? and does thos correspond to the phase angle of the hydrogen bond? wondering if that square circuit board on the end of all those VIC cards, that nobody seems to know about, is the key to a three phase sequencing of the signals, to cancel out the currents in the combined water bath cell array? Give us those referance's will ya? to Steve's Canadian patent and that square circuit nobody knows about. The snowflake question " why is snow white" I sent James this: "Snow is a whole bunch of individual ice crystals arranged together. When a light photon enters a layer of snow, it goes through an ice crystal on the top, which changes its direction slightly and sends it on to a new ice crystal, which does the same thing. Basically, all the crystals bounce the light all around so that it comes right back out of the snow pile. It does the same thing to all the different light frequencies, so all colors of light are bounced back out. The "color" of all the frequencies in the visible spectrum combined in equal measure is white, so this is the color we see in snow, while it's not the color we see in the individual ice crystals that form snow." From this link: http://science.howstuffworks.com/nature/climate-weather/atmospheric/question524.htm James tried to describe the paragraph and Steve eventually said ... that was a frequency and not the answer he was looking for so I searched more and found this... well something similar to this but its the same answer: http://harijan.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/why-is-snow-white/ Once I seen the answer also was because air I ended my search on that quest. I would bet if there is a circuit on the VIC card nobody knows what it is .. I bet its an impedance circuit as in Steve's patent.
OK So there is a 6 cell

and there is a lot of effort on the vic

could the vic be operated so 3 coils cancel each outher out like 3 phase
does in stephen's patent


CAN WE WE MAKE AND POST STEPHENS CIRCUIT

Dan

attached for further review

Lynx

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #5, on September 24th, 2013, 12:02 PM »
Quote from securesupplies on September 24th, 2013, 11:44 AM
Sum of 3 phase current is ZERO..........................

OK So there is a 6 cell

and there is a lot of effort on the vic

could the vic be operated so 3 coils cancel each outher out like 3 phase
does in stephen's patent


CAN WE WE MAKE AND POST STEPHENS CIRCUIT

Dan

attached for further review
See my reply in the other thread where you posted this,
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=311&pid=18559#pid18559

FaradayEZ

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #6, on September 24th, 2013, 03:03 PM »Last edited on September 24th, 2013, 03:40 PM by FaradayEZ
Quote from securesupplies on September 24th, 2013, 11:44 AM
Sum of 3 phase current is ZERO « on: May 27, 2013, 06:34:12 am » the other day i was doing amp readings on a 3 phase motor at work. I noticed that each leg had 20.9 amps more or less, but when i clamped the probe around all 3 conductors at the same time, i noticed the amperage was zero. maybe this was the secret to high voltage and very low amps ! NOTICE that in steve meyers canadian patent for a
CAN WE WE MAKE AND POST STEPHENS CIRCUIT

Dan

attached for further review
That's what i see when i see a circuitboard, like that one block of text coming to get me.. unreadable..

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The next video has a small piece of steve meyer in it


from 0.38 to 1.25

What strikes me in this video, is that Steve's work is made to improve efficiency of gasoline. So the concept of running 100% on water he has left behind..why is that? If someone should have known it was possible to run a car on 100% water, and how, it would have been Steve, then why go for less later in live?

My conclusion: He, they, did indeed lose the technology, ability to get to that 100% and didn't knew where it came from if they ever had it.

But why didn't Stan tell us, if he was such a straight shooter he could have been honest about it.

I don't know if Stan had investors, but if he did, and if he maintained he knew what he was doing and could get a car to perform etc. then i hate to say it but that to me is leading people on a string. That's more or less how Dr.Dr. J. Rohner does his business.

One only has the invention when one is able to replicate it, no? Or knows what is needed.

Farrah Day

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #7, on September 24th, 2013, 03:08 PM »
Just had a look at that pdf file. It's for a 'hydroxyl' filling station...what? Why?

Three things very wrong here.

Firstly, I assume he actually intended to be talking about the stoichiometric mixture of oxygen and hydrogen that is known as 'hydroxy', not the OH- (hydroxyl) ion. Pretty elementary mistake to make if you know what you are talking about.

Secondly, why would you fill your tank with hydroxy anyway? If you are making it on demand via an on-board electrolyser, fair enough, but otherwise you are wasting the majority of the space in a tank with the oxygen, when there is plenty of that already in the air! Far better to separate and provide just the hydrogen if you are going to produce it at a filling station.  

And finally, why would he even be considering hydroxy filling stations, when his brother had invented a self-contained, on-demand WFC?

Makes absolutely no sense at all. Really does defy logic. And sets alarm bells ringing.

Lynx

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #8, on September 24th, 2013, 03:14 PM »
My very thoughts Farrah and I can only come to think of one reason, namely that Steve has been duly intimidated by TPTB to officially abandon the WFC tech his Brother paid so dearly for.

/JM2C

Farrah Day

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #9, on September 24th, 2013, 03:44 PM »
Quote from Lynx on September 24th, 2013, 03:14 PM
My very thoughts Farrah and I can only come to think of one reason, namely that Steve has been duly intimidated by TPTB to officially abandon the WFC tech his Brother paid so dearly for.

/JM2C
But why even bother with this then? Because unless he is making the hydroxy very efficiently, as in his brothers WFC work, I really can't see the point.

Furthermore, as vehicles do not actually have tanks capable of containing hydroxy, what use would a filling station be? You could not even use hydroxy with hydrogen fuel cell electric cars as they require just the hydrogen. The mind boggles.

The only thing I can think of is that he is gambling on hydroxy becoming the fuel of the future and he is trying to lay down his claims well in advance.





Lynx

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #13, on September 24th, 2013, 11:21 PM »Last edited on September 24th, 2013, 11:29 PM by Lynx
Quote from HMS-776 on September 24th, 2013, 06:39 PM
Here you can listen to them without downloading:
Awesome, thanks
Do you have a direct download for the interviews?
I don't have a streaming app for these, alas.
Quote from Farrah Day on September 24th, 2013, 03:44 PM
The only thing I can think of is that he is gambling on hydroxy becoming the fuel of the future and he is trying to lay down his claims well in advance.
I agree, makes a lot of sense.
Dodge the bullets and when the time is ripe let it rip.
Kill the fossile based fuel industry.
It will not be missed.

FaradayEZ

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #14, on September 25th, 2013, 06:53 AM »Last edited on September 25th, 2013, 07:00 AM by FaradayEZ
Quote from HMS-776 on September 24th, 2013, 06:39 PM
Here you can listen to them without downloading:
Thx HMS! These interviews are very interesting, and restore some believe in those brothers.

( Farrah: Maybe he uses HO to store because H2 has the escape problem. And then has a methode to split when want to be used in a fuelcell?) interview 2 he addresses it a bit

Farrah Day

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #15, on September 25th, 2013, 12:19 PM »Last edited on September 25th, 2013, 12:41 PM by Farrah Day
Well, I listened to the first recording, which I found frustrating in that no science was discussed, but I persevered, and right near the end Meyer was asked just how it was their method decomposed the water. And what did Meyer do...? He clearly avoided answering the question :@

Listened to some of part 2 and didn't much like what I was hearing. I take it that Meyer never actually provides the answer to how Stan dissociated the water molecule or forwards the science behind - has anyone bothered to listen to the whole lot?

Stephen does claim that he has improved on Stan's WFC in orders of magnitude, so he obviously knows the secret... so why isn't he driving around in a water-powered Hummer? Something is not sitting right here.

But the real alarm bells started ringing when Meyer said that the dielectric of water being 78 meant that it was 78% dielectric, the rest was a conductor... or some such nonsense. I was gobsmacked and decided I'd heard enough. Life's just too short!

FaradayEZ

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #16, on September 25th, 2013, 01:20 PM »Last edited on September 25th, 2013, 02:59 PM by FaradayEZ
Quote from Farrah Day on September 25th, 2013, 12:19 PM
Well, I listened to the first recording, which I found frustrating in that no science was discussed, but I persevered, and right near the end Meyer was asked just how it was their method decomposed the water. And what did Meyer do...? He clearly avoided answering the question :@

Listened to some of part 2 and didn't much like what I was hearing. I take it that Meyer never actually provides the answer to how Stan dissociated the water molecule or forwards the science behind - has anyone bothered to listen to the whole lot?

Stephen does claim that he has improved on Stan's WFC in orders of magnitude, so he obviously knows the secret... so why isn't he driving around in a water-powered Hummer? Something is not sitting right here.

But the real alarm bells started ringing when Meyer said that the dielectric of water being 78 meant that it was 78% dielectric, the rest was a conductor... or some such nonsense. I was gobsmacked and decided I'd heard enough. Life's just too short!
I listened to 1 and 2 and still am up for more :)

Gobsmacked..lol      
Not easy pleasing a real lady ey? ;)

But joke aside, we don't have much info from Stephen else i think, so lets get out of it what we can.

And when you can look on the one hand with some grace towards the document of Dave Cushman, which is also not top science etc. i tend to hear the interview with Stephen with some grains of salt, but never the less.
Like i said there isn't much else.
And we still can find pointers in his patents i hope, cause there should be less carbidge(sp!) found in those i presume.
They get checked a little bit..

But for the rest; there is no perfect info..

Another cliche: If you want to do it right....
And still others will find flaws in your work..

Ok,ok already..smaller flaws in your work.


(stupid pedestals) ;)


As to science being discussed.. the brillioun interview on the scarecrow show you have heard? (check PESN-site) Its LENR but could have overlapping insights. Another one i recommend for listening.


Heuristicobfuscation

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #17, on September 25th, 2013, 02:14 PM »
Bellow is a video link of Steve Meyer assembling a team of "experts" and asking for donation money for  some sort of hybrid system for trucks..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdDoHxHTsGc&list=WLhUKba_vZ9vrbXYnW9qe_RjADlip1J8_r

Why go thru the trouble assembling team of experts?  Steve Meyers is the expert!
we cant get any closer to Stan Meyer than Steve Meyer...

having said that.. something isn’t right..

what are the possibility’s?

#1 Maybe he never knew the "secret"  [highly unlikely.. my opinion.]

#2 it was a scam all along...  [low probability.. dune buggy ran. Third party documentation ec..}

#3 Maybe he took up the offer his brother refused..{possible]

#4 if the conspiracy is true and Stan  was murdered.. then his brothers life and family would be in danger if he were to exchange information.....[possible]

Anyways why would he come out of the darkness after so many years and not persue his brothers technology? but go after donations for a mikey mouse system. I don’t  understand…

Lynx

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #18, on September 25th, 2013, 02:21 PM »
Quote from Heuristicobfuscation on September 25th, 2013, 02:14 PM
Anyways why would he come out of the darkness after so many years and not persue his brothers technology? but go after donations for a mikey mouse system. I don’t  understand…
Maybe it's the only way for him to give his late brother's technology to the World.
I think he knows exactly how to build the WFC and that he also knows just what TPTB are capable of when it comes to protect their riches.

Farrah Day

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #19, on September 25th, 2013, 03:10 PM »Last edited on September 25th, 2013, 03:29 PM by Farrah Day
Quote from Heuristicobfuscation on September 25th, 2013, 02:14 PM
Bellow is a video link of Steve Meyer assembling a team of "experts" and asking for donation money for  some sort of hybrid system for trucks..
Yes that's the video I saw a few years back and I'm just as unimpressed now as I was then. It would be hard to make a more unprofessional promotional video if you tried. 'Experts' is not the first thing that comes to mind when looking at that motley crew. Though obviously the alien visitors are impressed going by their constant chattering in the background! lol

Makes no real sense does it. If Stephen has massively improved on his brother's tech as he says in the radio recordings, then he already knows what to do and how to do it.

I'm sorry but I just don't buy it.  The whole Stephen Meyer saga just raises yet more questions, providing the sceptics amongst us with yet more doubts about everything the brother's ever said/say or did/do.

How could you expect to start up a new business from an incredibly poor video just showing 3 blokes standing by a truck and asking for money? And, who in their right minds would call their new business venture, 'Hydrogen Donations'. The mind boggles. :rolleyes:

It all smells a little fishy to me and I have serious doubts about Stephen's credibility - but of course, that is just my opinion.
Quote from Lynx on September 25th, 2013, 02:21 PM
Maybe it's the only way for him to give his late brother's technology to the World.
I think he knows exactly how to build the WFC and that he also knows just what TPTB are capable of when it comes to protect their riches.
I think this is wishful thinking Lynx. I just don't get the impression that he is really that clever... but who knows, eh?

One thing for sure is that the 'Likely Lads' never got their new venture off the ground did they.


FaradayEZ

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #20, on September 25th, 2013, 04:09 PM »
Quote from Farrah Day on September 25th, 2013, 03:10 PM
One thing for sure is that the 'Likely Lads' never got their new venture off the ground did they.
The website can't be found. I agree on the sheer amateurisme of the video, i don't know at what time in his live he did it in contrast to the interviews i'm listening.

But is very strange to do stuff in such a manor.

Area 51

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #21, on September 25th, 2013, 06:33 PM »
Quote from Farrah Day on September 25th, 2013, 03:10 PM
Quote from Heuristicobfuscation on September 25th, 2013, 02:14 PM
Bellow is a video link of Steve Meyer assembling a team of "experts" and asking for donation money for  some sort of hybrid system for trucks..
Yes that's the video I saw a few years back and I'm just as unimpressed now as I was then. It would be hard to make a more unprofessional promotional video if you tried. 'Experts' is not the first thing that comes to mind when looking at that motley crew. Though obviously the alien visitors are impressed going by their constant chattering in the background! lol

Makes no real sense does it. If Stephen has massively improved on his brother's tech as he says in the radio recordings, then he already knows what to do and how to do it.

I'm sorry but I just don't buy it.  The whole Stephen Meyer saga just raises yet more questions, providing the sceptics amongst us with yet more doubts about everything the brother's ever said/say or did/do.

How could you expect to start up a new business from an incredibly poor video just showing 3 blokes standing by a truck and asking for money? And, who in their right minds would call their new business venture, 'Hydrogen Donations'. The mind boggles. :rolleyes:

It all smells a little fishy to me and I have serious doubts about Stephen's credibility - but of course, that is just my opinion.
Quote from Lynx on September 25th, 2013, 02:21 PM
Maybe it's the only way for him to give his late brother's technology to the World.
I think he knows exactly how to build the WFC and that he also knows just what TPTB are capable of when it comes to protect their riches.
I think this is wishful thinking Lynx. I just don't get the impression that he is really that clever... but who knows, eh?

One thing for sure is that the 'Likely Lads' never got their new venture off the ground did they.
In my opinion, he just did what Stan told him and never knew how any of it worked if in fact it ever did.

securesupplies

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #22, on September 25th, 2013, 10:11 PM »


HI  Industry Members,

This Thread it to re create in great details Stephens Patent.

We extremely close we have a 6 cell design we have 3 phase motors we just need to
KISS "keep it simple Stupid and " recreat exactly stephens circuit.

It will shed even more knowledge and light for the work.

I am a firm believer in "JUST DO IT!"

So let get the Stephen patent into LIFE with his circuit board in eagle cad or something
and test, the knowledge here all rediscovered we are now deploying and as a INdustry we will prove the best methods forward by rapid sharing and deploying

I hope to support every one every where, I can with knowledge and manufacturing help to get part made and distributed and cost effective as possible the demand it World wide and global so we all need to help each other at this point in time.

LEt Focus this thread now
 on the Ciruit board from Stephens patent

Dan
PS I was shocked after ready this forum for 10 years that some how we hadden posted the stephen know untill now, when we all know it? let fic that and starting testing stephen was 50% of the whole thing! And he built the ECu injector system and all the part by hand. part which today are readily available.

The on pc we need to get the knowledge right it the 3 phase to dc for the

Vic Gospel = 3 phase cancelling each other out to make massive voltage


Lynx

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #23, on September 25th, 2013, 11:17 PM »
Quote from Farrah Day on September 25th, 2013, 03:10 PM
Quote from Lynx on September 25th, 2013, 02:21 PM
Maybe it's the only way for him to give his late brother's technology to the World.
I think he knows exactly how to build the WFC and that he also knows just what TPTB are capable of when it comes to protect their riches.
I think this is wishful thinking Lynx. I just don't get the impression that he is really that clever... but who knows, eh?

One thing for sure is that the 'Likely Lads' never got their new venture off the ground did they.
Very true

Farrah Day

RE: Steve Meyer?
« Reply #24, on September 26th, 2013, 03:31 AM »Last edited on September 26th, 2013, 03:34 AM by Farrah Day
Quote from Area 51 on September 25th, 2013, 06:33 PM
In my opinion, he just did what Stan told him and never knew how any of it worked if in fact it ever did.
But, if you listen to Stephen Meyer in the radio recordings, he would have you believe it is exactly the other way around. Stephen is the one who professes to have all the university degrees, engineering skills and background knowledge.

Is there anyone well versed in electronics that can evaluate that Figure 4 Schematic in Stephen's patent?

I'm no electronics boff, but he shows waveguides... what is that all about, surely that is microwave technology? Also, looking at the schematic, there are 6 blocks of 6 components - 2 resistors, and 4 capacitors - that seem to be just there to pad out the circuit, when just 1 capacitor and 1 resistor would suffice. And why has he gone back to mechanical 3 phase generators instead of modern electronic circuitry?

My gut feeling is that it's all complete rubbish and I'm not inclined to think Stephen knows half of what he is talking about - or indeed claims.