Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile

~Russ

Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« on March 3rd, 2012, 03:21 AM »Last edited on March 3rd, 2012, 03:25 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer stile...

here i will be posting the work on the Gen-Set.

it is a 7HP OHV gas 3500W Gen Set (made in china...)

so far i have studded it and decided to make some changes.

for now i made this manifold to introduce the gasses i would like to the system. this will be going between the carb and the engine. i may also make one that will be going in front of the butterfly valve. i don't know just yet if i need to introduce the different gasses in different spots.

the gasses Stan used:

SM 4 gasses/items going in to the engine, (from interview of him in the driveway)

1. hydroxy gas (manufactured under high voltage no amperage in the form of parsley ionizing of the gases/water in the process) ( non processed Natural water)

2. Ionized ambient air ( using the gas possessor)

3. recycled exhaust gasses ( cooled using a small tube style heat exchanger) (ran in to the intake) (controlled with a proportional valve)

4. ambient air (using a butterfly valve going on to the intake)

Ambient air and recycled exhaust gasses going in to the intake with butterfly valve as throttle control.

the ionized gases and hydroxy gas is going in to the injector block you see in the new videos of him and his brother. (? in actual intake of ionized gases... )

the exhaust gasses (non combustible gas) slow down the recombining of the hydrogen and oxygen by being "in the way" during the combustion process.

The carb in my case will be used as a butterfly valve only.

i will update this post with more info as i go.

~Russ

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #2, on March 3rd, 2012, 03:45 AM »
Quote from adys15 on March 3rd, 2012, 03:38 AM
Verry nice machining there Russ,btw you got the gas processor working?and btw thanks for reply on variac...keep on the good work!
Still playing with the electronics on the gas processor. I had one of the chips burn up on my frequency generator. So I will be fixing that first and then doing a test. You're welcome

Thanks! ~Russ

firepinto

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #4, on March 3rd, 2012, 11:19 AM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on March 3rd, 2012, 03:21 AM
Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer stile...

here i will be posting the work on the Gen-Set.

it is a 7HP OHV gas 3500W Gen Set (made in china...)

so far i have studded it and decided to make some changes.

for now i made this manifold to introduce the gasses i would like to the system. this will be going between the carb and the engine. i may also make one that will be going in front of the butterfly valve. i don't know just yet if i need to introduce the different gasses in different spots.

the gasses Stan used:

SM 4 gasses/items going in to the engine, (from interview of him in the driveway)

1. hydroxy gas (manufactured under high voltage no amperage in the form of parsley ionizing of the gases/water in the process) ( non processed Natural water)

2. Ionized ambient air ( using the gas possessor)

3. recycled exhaust gasses ( cooled using a small tube style heat exchanger) (ran in to the intake) (controlled with a proportional valve)

4. ambient air (using a butterfly valve going on to the intake)

Ambient air and recycled exhaust gasses going in to the intake with butterfly valve as throttle control.

the ionized gases and hydroxy gas is going in to the injector block you see in the new videos of him and his brother. (? in actual intake of ionized gases... )

the exhaust gasses (non combustible gas) slow down the recombining of the hydrogen and oxygen by being "in the way" during the combustion process.

The carb in my case will be used as a butterfly valve only.

i will update this post with more info as i go.
The manifold looks awesome. :) I can't wait to see it work.  I'm thinking with that many ports on the vacume side of the butterfly valve, you might have to control idle separatly some how.  Great job Russ!

Nate

zcsaba

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #5, on March 3rd, 2012, 11:32 AM »
Quote from phil on March 3rd, 2012, 09:19 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMlciNOyo_U

Heres s little video of a generator running on HHO if you havnt seen it. You might get a few pointers from chapter 10in patricks book thats got some detailed info on running a generator on water
Hi
The german guy not use anything else just HHO for run generator!? If I good see, its possible? Thanks for reply

rgrds zcsaba

phil

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #8, on March 4th, 2012, 04:08 AM »
Quote from hydrofuelincanada on March 3rd, 2012, 05:46 PM
Russ why are you thinking about changing the timing.

Oops forgot to put a link up for my generator running on hho and ambient air, if you are interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKJuuYwyyUg&list=UUXGCQUfET1xo2FVFkXfKejQ&index=9&feature=plpp_video
Cool generator, was the generator powering your HHO cell or was the cell plugged into the wall?

David

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #12, on March 13th, 2012, 06:57 PM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on March 3rd, 2012, 03:21 AM
Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer stile...
check out this video on 4 Stroke conversion to explosion - implosion engine using 2 stroke timing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndpk3qAJS-8

You should find this interesting in light of your gas mixture experiment device results. Have you found a clear glass tube yet. Also you might find this interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iRHE-DzodU
David

bluetriguy

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #13, on March 15th, 2012, 06:32 PM »
Not sure which video but the flow rate guage that doesn't register flow of H2 to the engine is an HOURLY rate - that is liters per HOUR not minute. You would need to increase flow by at least 30x to get it to register....
Nice work though.

Muxar

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #15, on April 4th, 2012, 08:27 AM »
Hello everyone!!
Yesterday i was watching a conference about alternative energy/electric car (a nice one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6jPmjqAYqA
I´m sorry that is in Spanish but, almost in the end that guy says that BMW was working on a V12 hidrogen engine:
http://www.diariomotor.com/2008/04/16/bmw-hydrogen-7-equipado-con-un-motor-que-limpia-la-contaminacion-del-aire/
And says that the hydrogen itself is not lubricating the walls of the cilinder so you can break the engine and that´s why that car is now in a museum...my question is...is the gasoline lubricating the walls???i don´t think so...the only risk i see is to overheat the head of the piston i guess....now i´m seeing that in the article i posted last says there are 100 units running for now....so maybe that guy was wrong.....i guess the best way to know will be to test it :)

Jeff Nading

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #16, on April 4th, 2012, 10:04 AM »Last edited on April 4th, 2012, 07:14 PM by Jeff Nading
Quote from Muxar on April 4th, 2012, 08:27 AM
Hello everyone!!
Yesterday i was watching a conference about alternative energy/electric car (a nice one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6jPmjqAYqA
I´m sorry that is in Spanish but, almost in the end that guy says that BMW was working on a V12 hidrogen engine:
http://www.diariomotor.com/2008/04/16/bmw-hydrogen-7-equipado-con-un-motor-que-limpia-la-contaminacion-del-aire/
And says that the hydrogen itself is not lubricating the walls of the cilinder so you can break the engine and that´s why that car is now in a museum...my question is...is the gasoline lubricating the walls???i don´t think so...the only risk i see is to overheat the head of the piston i guess....now i´m seeing that in the article i posted last says there are 100 units running for now....so maybe that guy was wrong.....i guess the best way to know will be to test it :)
Gasoline is hydrogen carbon, water is hydrogen oxygen, there are no lubricating qualities to either, hence the reason for oil in the crankcase. The use of gasoline or water, you are still burning hydrogen, you just have to slow the burn rate down when using hydrogen from water. I have heard others say you'll rust the rings and cylinders of an engine if you use water, if that were true gasoline would do the same, either way you are burning hydrogen. You won't melt your pistons because of water flowing around the cylinders carrying heat away to the radiator, fan cooling the water flowing through the radiator, then cooled water returning to the engine to carry heat away again. This should be understood by all, to stop propaganda, and being misled or misinformed.:D:P

firepinto

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #17, on April 4th, 2012, 10:06 AM »
Quote from Muxar on April 4th, 2012, 08:27 AM
Hello everyone!!
Yesterday i was watching a conference about alternative energy/electric car (a nice one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6jPmjqAYqA
I´m sorry that is in Spanish but, almost in the end that guy says that BMW was working on a V12 hidrogen engine:
http://www.diariomotor.com/2008/04/16/bmw-hydrogen-7-equipado-con-un-motor-que-limpia-la-contaminacion-del-aire/
And says that the hydrogen itself is not lubricating the walls of the cilinder so you can break the engine and that´s why that car is now in a museum...my question is...is the gasoline lubricating the walls???i don´t think so...the only risk i see is to overheat the head of the piston i guess....now i´m seeing that in the article i posted last says there are 100 units running for now....so maybe that guy was wrong.....i guess the best way to know will be to test it :)
Cylinder wear is a problem on any engine.  That is why they add oil squirters underneath the pistons on some high performance engines.  There are millions of engines that run off of propane or CNG, which would have problems no different than hydrogen.  Corporations are happy to lube your cylinders with high dollar gasoline.  Thay won't market a hydrogen car till you have a hydrogen pump in your area.
 

~Russ

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #22, on April 6th, 2012, 03:37 AM »
Quote from hydrofuelincanada on April 4th, 2012, 10:39 AM
I have been asking him for a long time now, not just on this site.
We all should know by now that adjusting the burn rate to that of gasoline, absolutely no engine modifications are necessary.
Hey,

Sorry for not replying. I also have seen some of your questions about your your torch. I have not seen anything you have done. I need to get on your YouTube channel and take a look. I have been a little bit overwhelmed with life lately. My upmost apology for not answering your questions.

The only reason I would want to modify the engine timing is to just do tests. I have tried a lot of different mixtures with hydrogen ambient air and recycled exhaust gases. I've even almost completely shut off the exhaust and it still runs. but it has not run like it normally would on gasoline. So I wanted to be able to play with timing to see what was easiest. It's very simple to a just timing on a car. So it options should be there. Even if you look at Stan's GM S unit he is able to adjust the timing as well as everything else. So I think that we should be able to adjust the timing even though we're trying to adjust the burn rate of hydrogen it's a different medium and I believe that timing will need to be adjusted to get maximum performance

I've already proven that you can run hydrogen into an engine with no modifications and make it work. But unfortunately I haven't got the same horsepower out of it.
I'm not the first person to do this but just from experience on my own tests I think that timing needs to be adjusted.


 If you would please post your YouTube channel link here. I don't think I have seen any of your work and I think I should. Sounds like you've done a bunch of research and I definitely need to check it out.

I haven't answered hardly anyone's questions on YouTube lately. I've had a hard time getting on there and responding. Anytime I'm on a computer I can't get to YouTube. :) (at work)

Also on the note of water ruining the engine. Once the engine warms up the water will evaporate. If you're using straight hydrogen and oxygen I can see it being a slight problem. But you're always going to be introducing some ambient air and in this case recycled exhaust gases as well. This will minimize the amount of water in the engine. If you take a look in this video



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY7OHAqGdn8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

You will see that the engine was spitting out water when it was cold. At the end of the video you will see that once it warms up there was no more water in the system. But I do not adjust anything it just wants up enough I think to the  evaporate the water.

Jeff Nading

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #23, on April 6th, 2012, 06:59 AM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 6th, 2012, 03:37 AM
Quote from hydrofuelincanada on April 4th, 2012, 10:39 AM
I have been asking him for a long time now, not just on this site.
We all should know by now that adjusting the burn rate to that of gasoline, absolutely no engine modifications are necessary.
Hey,

Sorry for not replying. I also have seen some of your questions about your your torch. I have not seen anything you have done. I need to get on your YouTube channel and take a look. I have been a little bit overwhelmed with life lately. My upmost apology for not answering your questions.

The only reason I would want to modify the engine timing is to just do tests. I have tried a lot of different mixtures with hydrogen ambient air and recycled exhaust gases. I've even almost completely shut off the exhaust and it still runs. but it has not run like it normally would on gasoline. So I wanted to be able to play with timing to see what was easiest. It's very simple to a just timing on a car. So it options should be there. Even if you look at Stan's GM S unit he is able to adjust the timing as well as everything else. So I think that we should be able to adjust the timing even though we're trying to adjust the burn rate of hydrogen it's a different medium and I believe that timing will need to be adjusted to get maximum performance

I've already proven that you can run hydrogen into an engine with no modifications and make it work. But unfortunately I haven't got the same horsepower out of it.
I'm not the first person to do this but just from experience on my own tests I think that timing needs to be adjusted.


 If you would please post your YouTube channel link here. I don't think I have seen any of your work and I think I should. Sounds like you've done a bunch of research and I definitely need to check it out.

I haven't answered hardly anyone's questions on YouTube lately. I've had a hard time getting on there and responding. Anytime I'm on a computer I can't get to YouTube. :) (at work)

Also on the note of water ruining the engine. Once the engine warms up the water will evaporate. If you're using straight hydrogen and oxygen I can see it being a slight problem. But you're always going to be introducing some ambient air and in this case recycled exhaust gases as well. This will minimize the amount of water in the engine. If you take a look in this video



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY7OHAqGdn8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

You will see that the engine was spitting out water when it was cold. At the end of the video you will see that once it warms up there was no more water in the system. But I do not adjust anything it just wants up enough I think to the  evaporate the water.
One thing I need to mention about water coming out of the exhaust, this happens on my truck all the time even when it was new. I see this on just about all the vehicles running today.

~Russ

RE: Single cylinder Hydroxy Ran Gen-set Conversion Stanley Meyer Stile
« Reply #24, on April 6th, 2012, 07:12 AM »
Quote
One thing I need to mention about water coming out of the exhaust, this happens on my truck all the time even when it was new. I see this on just about all the vehicles running today.
Yes. My dad drove only 1-2 min to work in his erily days. He would rust out his muffler in about 3 months... He got life time mufflers... He would not drive far enugh to heat up the muffler and he would rust them
Out like mad! And speeking of mad. I'm sure the muffler guy was too! Hahaha

~Russ