11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell


securesupplies

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #2, on January 27th, 2019, 08:44 PM »
In stage IV the International Patent.
Stan went shorter stainless steel tubes and higher voltages.
Approximately 120 volts per inch on the T304 stainless steel.

4 inches=2020 volts
5 inches=1900 volts
6 inches=1780 volts
7 inches=1660 volts
8 inches=1440 volts
9 inches=1320 volts
10inches=1200 volts
11inches=1080 volts
12 inches= 960 volts
13 inches= 840 volts
14 inches= 720 volts
15 inches= 660 volts
16 inches= 540 volts
17 inches= 420 volts
18 inches= 300 volts

2.75 inches is the length T304 stainless steel that is used in the international patent.

120 volts per inch 1 on theT304 stainless steel

system can work on gas from top  and by nano bubbles into water and loop water to injectors with pressure bypass back to cell


patrick1

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #4, on January 28th, 2019, 12:37 AM »
Amazing Material Securesupplies !,

In regards too the cell length,   i notice that the advanced looking builds all use very short cells, - but i cannot imagine why,   technically,  - bigger cell = more gas ?, or perhaps not, because ive never seen a tall capacitor,   - well at least they are very rare, - and mostly from england....


Webmug

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #6, on January 30th, 2019, 05:37 AM »
Quote from patrick1 on January 28th, 2019, 12:37 AM
Amazing Material Securesupplies !,

In regards too the cell length,   i notice that the advanced looking builds all use very short cells, - but i cannot imagine why,   technically,  - bigger cell = more gas ?, or perhaps not, because ive never seen a tall capacitor,   - well at least they are very rare, - and mostly from england....
Reason for a smaller wfc is the capacitance is low and much lower in series arrangements and you can generate higher voltages with the vic transformer on higher frequencies.


Br, Webmug

Matt Watts

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #7, on January 30th, 2019, 10:15 AM »
Webmug!

Haven't seen you post in quite a while.

While you're here, can you set us straight with the current state of Meyer research?   I still haven't come across any definitive evidence someone has figured out this Meyer technology.  A lot of us are still hopeful.

Webmug

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #8, on February 2nd, 2019, 09:22 AM »
Quote from Matt Watts on January 30th, 2019, 10:15 AM
Webmug!

Haven't seen you post in quite a while.

While you're here, can you set us straight with the current state of Meyer research?   I still haven't come across any definitive evidence someone has figured out this Meyer technology.  A lot of us are still hopeful.
@Matt,
Not much has changed since my last posts. I suspended my experimentation and research on Meyer (this stuff isn't cheap). But I visit the forums occasionally and read many theories and see no (repeating again) practical experimentation with the information found in the Meyer tech brief and from data and circuit schematics provided by Dynodon (Don). I also never come across definitive evidence (not posting names here) if someone has figured out this Meyer technology. Many are still using brute force (amps) to split the water molecule. Only hope would not bring this technology out in the world and we need real experimentation. We won't get the technology presented on a golden platter. Sadly my finding are still on the drawing board and i haven't done real experimentation with a full setup only partial.
Only time will tell ...

Br, Webmug

HMS-776

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #9, on February 3rd, 2019, 12:07 AM »
Matt,

I know of at least two people who have been successful.
IMO the VIC calculations are what we all need to look at to understand and replicate. I had a friend share some really good calculations with me and then I expanded on them.

I taught myself how to design pulse and AC transformers years ago, then designed, built and tested many variations of VIC's. Look at my YT channel, BradK and you'll see some of them.

Once you start running the calculations you see things that are not obvious.... you can also rearrange the formulas to find unknown values that we didn't have before...And those unknown values answer other questions.

If you look at the Injector VIC you'll find that the impedance transformation is off by a factor of around 12, the important question is why and how was it designed like that.

 I keep seeing people building the Injector and the Injector VIC but the VIC windings and turns are incorrect...Can't even begin to tell you how frustrating it is to see people with the resources to obtain them but not the understanding to re-design the VIC so it can be properly tested. From what I have seen no one has got the Injector VIC correct.

BTW, I think Steve designed the Injector VIC, once you look at it you realize whoever engineered it had to have been a brilliant thinker, someone able to see things differently than most engineers...and continuing on that topic, if anyone can tell me how you calculate the AL value of a core which uses magnetic wire coils please contact me!






securesupplies

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #11, on February 12th, 2019, 06:42 AM »
Quote from HMS-776 on February 3rd, 2019, 12:07 AM
Matt,

I know of at least two people who have been successful.
IMO the VIC calculations are what we all need to look at to understand and replicate. I had a friend share some really good calculations with me and then I expanded on them.

I taught myself how to design pulse and AC transformers years ago, then designed, built and tested many variations of VIC's. Look at my YT channel, BradK and you'll see some of them.

Once you start running the calculations you see things that are not obvious.... you can also rearrange the formulas to find unknown values that we didn't have before...And those unknown values answer other questions.

If you look at the Injector VIC you'll find that the impedance transformation is off by a factor of around 12, the important question is why and how was it designed like that.

 I keep seeing people building the Injector and the Injector VIC but the VIC windings and turns are incorrect...Can't even begin to tell you how frustrating it is to see people with the resources to obtain them but not the understanding to re-design the VIC so it can be properly tested. From what I have seen no one has got the Injector VIC correct.

BTW, I think Steve designed the Injector VIC, once you look at it you realize whoever engineered it had to have been a brilliant thinker, someone able to see things differently than most engineers...and continuing on that topic, if anyone can tell me how you calculate the AL value of a core which uses magnetic wire coils please contact me!
We hope people post excel calculations  for vic 2 as they advance so we have more people working at home on it. Anonymous has posted a lot

Webmug

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #12, on February 12th, 2019, 07:00 AM »Last edited on February 12th, 2019, 07:02 AM
Quote from securesupplies on February 12th, 2019, 06:42 AM
We hope people post excel calculations  for vic 2 as they advance so we have more people working at home on it. Anonymous has posted a lot
Who is WE?

Just some calculations wouldn't help you if you don't know what you are doing! It's more like trial and error by experimentation.
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=1961.msg51904

~webmug


securesupplies

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #14, on February 12th, 2019, 07:53 PM »Last edited on February 12th, 2019, 07:55 PM
11  Cell Finer details
is this a spring pressure adjust for by pass spring , this was not shown on final pics from estate

this controls nano dissolve rate

Dan






securesupplies

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #19, on February 12th, 2019, 09:55 PM »
Key Points

1 Nano Bubbles
2 Dry Fog into injector tip
3 pressure by pass back to tank
4 cold water
5 h2 o2 nano bubbles less electrons  to increase water tension increase h2 nano bubble saturation
6 GOD SPEED


HMS-776

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #21, on February 16th, 2019, 09:11 PM »Last edited on February 16th, 2019, 09:17 PM
Quote from Webmug on February 12th, 2019, 07:00 AM
Who is WE?

Just some calculations wouldn't help you if you don't know what you are doing! It's more like trial and error by experimentation.
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=1961.msg51904

~webmug
I agree!

When designing a VIC its a trick of finding a middle ground between different values and variables.
You have to consider:
-Power (Voltage and current)
-Primary coil voltage
-Primary coil current
-Primary coil resistance to get desired values
-Secondary coil current
-Secondary coil voltage
-Turns ratio
-Impedance ratio
-V=L*di/dt
-Operating Freq
-Core size
-Core material
-Bobbin size
-Saturation flux density
-core Al value
-Required L to achieve Fres at the desired freq
-Wire size
-Wire resistance
-Total wire length
-Number of turns required to achieve desired values
-Volts per turn if Vt exceeds several kV
-Cell capacitance
-Minimum water resistance
-Voltage regulation

And guess what, those are not listed in order (and I probably forgot one or two things), why? Because after you find one of the values you need you often have to change another to get that value, and then that changes and requires you to reconsider all the other values. This is no joke, this is serious and requires serious work and understanding....I spent 30-40 hours designing a VIC for the spherical resonant cavity and I just realized I have to start over because I made an assumption and took an incorrect measurement!

When people ask for the calculations I just shake my head. If you have never tried designing one by yourself you can't skip to step 10. If you try and skip to step 10 you'll never get it to work,


Rant over!


Dan, Thanks for sharing some really good drawings. Have you got a price quote to make an 11 cell resonant cavity exactly to Stan's spec?


securesupplies

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #23, on February 16th, 2019, 10:27 PM »
 Praise the Lord
 We can Thank Russ Don Ryan Dan Secure Supplies and many many others and
all the Member of this Forum for this Great Pc of work
 to fully recreate this set of Stl files in Auto Cad and send it global

More being done as this advances now fast.

Dan

securesupplies

Re: 11 tube WFC Stan Meyers Plans Size Dimensions Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #24, on February 16th, 2019, 11:28 PM »
Quote from HMS-776 on February 16th, 2019, 09:11 PM
I agree!

When designing a VIC its a trick of finding a middle ground between different values and variables.
You have to consider:
-Power (Voltage and current)
-Primary coil voltage
-Primary coil current
-Primary coil resistance to get desired values
-Secondary coil current
-Secondary coil voltage
-Turns ratio
-Impedance ratio
-V=L*di/dt
-Operating Freq
-Core size
-Core material
-Bobbin size
-Saturation flux density
-core Al value
-Required L to achieve Fres at the desired freq
-Wire size
-Wire resistance
-Total wire length
-Number of turns required to achieve desired values
-Volts per turn if Vt exceeds several kV
-Cell capacitance
-Minimum water resistance
-Voltage regulation

And guess what, those are not listed in order (and I probably forgot one or two things), why? Because after you find one of the values you need you often have to change another to get that value, and then that changes and requires you to reconsider all the other values. This is no joke, this is serious and requires serious work and understanding....I spent 30-40 hours designing a VIC for the spherical resonant cavity and I just realized I have to start over because I made an assumption and took an incorrect measurement!

When people ask for the calculations I just shake my head. If you have never tried designing one by yourself you can't skip to step 10. If you try and skip to step 10 you'll never get it to work,


Rant over!


Dan, Thanks for sharing some really good drawings. Have you got a price quote to make an 11 cell resonant cavity exactly to Stan's spec?
Ball is in the global Hydrogen Hot rodding court
Court now welcome all offer to build pcs parts or all

Dan 
danieldonatelli1@gmail.com
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Ps More 2020 Features being added and being released soon
Dan