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I'm also curious how Mr. Smith ended up with cancer and died before he could finish his work.  My gut tells me he was really on to something and that's not allowed in this world.

I think you nailed just there.

I don't know if you've shared his document before Matt, but anyway, here it is again in that case.
It's definitely a huge part of what this very thread should be all about.

Going to read this with interest. I think human beings are naturally inquisitive and curious as to how 5hit ticks and this is how we've come to be as advanced as we currently are, there is good science behind what we already know through understanding cause and effect. However, judging by the number of inventions since the industrial revolution to the number of inventions in the past 50 years we seem to be stuck which you have mentioned Lynx. We are still using petrol and diesel engines invented 100 years ago, still communicating through phenomena discovered 100 years ago and our computers are still based on binary sequences first deployed more than 80 years ago, we just figured a way to make them smaller.
So what has happened? Personally speaking, I believe that after the second world war there we certain organizations put in place to make sure all technology and inventions from that point were kept from the public and served only the military. I can understand why too, the Germans were using jet engines and rocket engines together with nuclear research on Atom bombs to wage war on the rest of the planet and I think someone somewhere said 'enough is enough'. I can see the logic in this but at the same time I can see the bad things too because it means we all have to suffer. Think about it though, someone discovers free energy and uses the energy as a means to wage war. That is the fear. What ever we discover on this forum, the governments of the world will have their mits on it before it gets out there so we have to be careful what we do. That is why, when i'm doing my HHO stuff, I go through each stage of any build little be little, showing cause and effect little by little so that people can absorb what is going on. Showing a working device and not explaining it properly is the worst thing you can do because it leaves people in limbo.

If we discover cause and effect together and understand the basic principles together it means that one man can carry on where the other man left off. I may or may not get HHO to work but someone else might and if that someone else picks things up from myself, Ronnie, Matt or anyone working on it then we move forward. That is the way it has to be - transparency.

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If we discover cause and effect together and understand the basic principles together it means that one man can carry on where the other man left off. I may or may not get HHO to work but someone else might and if that someone else picks things up from myself, Ronnie, Matt or anyone working on it then we move forward. That is the way it has to be - transparency.

Hear hear.

Filing for patents will get us nowhere and should the build at hand show to be seriously threatening to status quo, chances are you'd end up 6 feet under ground, together with your diagrams and schematics for the build at hand.

Transparency is the only way for us to beat this money driven fear mongering system that which, amongst other things, keeps us firmly chained to this small planet.

Thinking about thinking, (Prepare the ship for jump through hyperspace), if by using gravity to fold space (Cruncher coils are all set Captain), shield the ship from it's space folding device (Very well. Engage gravity shields), (Shields are up Captain), then take a miniscule step into this man made wormhole of ours while it's still crunching space, then come to full stop and then the very instant you shut off the space folder, if you then were to slow down the pace of time aboard ship, making "everything" on board appear to be at standstill while space unfolds itself in front of you, bringing you closer to the star you've set the course for, would you then only be moving through space while time being at standstill aboard ship? (Very well. Engage).

Vivid imagination.

Besides, where would we be without it?

Also, maybe inertia wouldn't stand a chance to just flatten the ship silly thin while time aboard ship is at standstill as it's jumping through hyperspace.

Consider the ship to be stationary and you aim the gravity field at a point in space and bring that space to the ship. The distance between the ship and that part of space is diminished because the gravity field curves it toward you.

Quote from nav on July 28th, 2018, 07:11 AM

Consider the ship to be stationary and you aim the gravity field at a point in space and bring that space to the ship. The distance between the ship and that part of space is diminished because the gravity field curves it toward you.

Sure, I'll buy that.
"Empty space" shouldn't take all that much effort to compress after all as it's, well, "empty" after all.
Then when the space compressor is shut off the space behind the ship would unfold, seemingly giving you distance between ship and Earth.

It would be helpful if we could put together such a strictly theoretical working hypothesis for, which I'd like to refer to as, jumping through hyperspace, I.E in which order our ship would have to power all the, still unbuilt, circuits, builds, etc, from start to finish, for one complete such jump.
Like for instance start out with shielding the ship from the gravity generator, then home in on the final destination, then...........

Just a theoretical step by step list detailing what needs to be done.
Then brainstorm a bit and maybe add and/or remove things from this list.

What would you say Nav is needed and in what order, etc etc.
Never mind that nothing of this is invented, not just yet anyway ;-)

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Never mind that nothing of this is invented, not just yet anyway ;-)

Maybe...



Maybe not...

By the way Lynx, nice tag line.

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Maybe...

Maybe not...

Tell me more.

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By the way Lynx, nice tag line.

Says everything about humanity :-)

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Tell me more.

Otis T. Carr

Quote from Lynx on July 28th, 2018, 08:20 AM

Says everything about humanity :-)

Yes it does.  What it doesn't say directly though is that most are completely unwilling to back up and take a different path.  Seems odd to me.  Why do so many people enjoy banging their head against a wall, over and over.  That right there should tell us a lot about the human condition.

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Otis T. Carr

Thanks :thumbsup:

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Yes it does.  What it doesn't say directly though is that most are completely unwilling to back up and take a different path.  Seems odd to me.  Why do so many people enjoy banging their head against a wall, over and over.  That right there should tell us a lot about the human condition.

Fluoride, GMO, Montsanto, farmed fish, aluminum, PTFE.
Money.

Okay, I take it back.  You are spot-on Lynx.  Humans (at least on this spherical rock) have given up.  They have let some satanic influence determine their future.  Most of them anyway.  Fear got the best of them.  Fear of being individuals and not part of the hive.  Still it's fear of the unknown of which if they only would use their brain properly wouldn't be an unknown.

Quote from Matt Watts on July 28th, 2018, 08:38 AM

Okay, I take it back.  You are spot-on Lynx.  Humans (at least on this spherical rock) have given up.  They have let some satanic influence determine their future.  Most of them anyway.  Fear got the best of them.  Fear of being individuals and not part of the hive.  Still it's fear of the unknown of which if they only would use their brain properly wouldn't be an unknown.

It's quite an elaborate system that which has emerged throughout these last 100 years or so.
Everything is designed to keep us miserably content with what we got, afraid of aiming for the stars "knowing" that we can survive as long as we behave at work and do what everyone else is doing.

Seems as though Otis T. Carr did have something to offer given the heavy oppression google shows me his build gets here and there while at the same time there's very little actual building plans for this anti gravity build of his.
Which means it could be important to spend time trying to find out more about how to replicate his build, together with schematics, diagrams, etc.

As long as folks have shiny things such as cars, cell phones, 4k tv and the like, they are content with life. Things like running water, gas and electric are taken for granted and kids these days don't even know where it comes from, more to the point they don't even care as long as they have their cell phone. The youth of today are not inquisitive or curious how things work and never ask anything or challenge anything. It's like it's been bred out of them in school and they have become submissive. When I was young I was taking stuff apart to see how it works, electronic stuff or mechanical stuff especially, my dad took my me to the power plant where he worked as a supervisor many times and I picked his brains on a regular basis until I had it clear in my mind how it all worked right from a block of coal to the juice in the wires. If I asked my son what current is I know the answer i'd get. It would be something used in cooking that looks like a raisin.

Which, amongst other things, leaves forums like this to delve into that which is supposed to belong in science labs worldwide but for whatever reason is being firmly kept out of there.

http://www.utahspace.org/special/alzofon.html

I get the feeling David Puchta would confirm this too.

I certainly don't know, but what I can see by the design of these flying saucers is a device that redirects the tempic/electric field (a.k.a. gravity).  And by doing so, I suspect they also capture a small portion of the electric field to keep themselves operable.  If I was a super intelligent being from another world very far away, that's how I'd try to do it.

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Alright :-D

So that's 2 builds then, together with theoretical schematics even.
Easy is as easy does.
I have a semi high tech scale which would do just fine to see whether or not such a anti gravitic schematic would do it's job or not.

Thanks for sharing gentlemen, love it :thumbsup:

Aggregate ~ The physical assembly of particles as separate units.
Amorphous ~ Assembly of matter in which control is largely random.
Awareness ~ The relationship between a Being and all else.
Coherence ~ The condition when two or more fields of the same kind and direction combine into a single field.
Creator ~ The primary Cause for the existence of Awareness, Reality and its perception.
Crystal ~ Assembly of matter in which control is largely sequential.
Fabric ~ Grouping of three of the basic Parameters according to derivation and contiguous characteristics.
Integration ~ The summation of bits of the same kind into a whole.
Parameter ~ One of the twelve basic principles upon which all Reality perceived by Awareness is based.
Percipitation ~ Bringing Reality totally within the Perception of Awareness.
Personal ~ Pertaining to the identity of a Being.
Plasm ~ Assembly of matter in which control is largely free will.
Quadrature ~ A special operation by which a broadside (at right angles) relationship is established.
Skew ~ The geometrical configuration in which certain fields have tangential as well as radial components.
Tempic ~ The field parameter of Change
Tensor ~ Pertaining to a configuration of radiated energy which is self-contained.

No, you won't hear these on the game show Jeopardy either.

Wormhole ~ A shortcut through space designed to enable space ships to travel between stars in virtually no time at all.
Antigravity ~ A specific energy created for the puprpose of cancelling the effects of gravity.
Timefreezing ~ The result of such an apparatus designed to stop time from affecting matter and energy.

Not these either.