Photons are like Electrons, they exist merely as a wave of superposition which means they are know where in particular until you look then they manifest.

Photons are nothing like electrons except that both are fundamental particles. They are not a "wave of superposition", they are a quantized excitation of a quantum field, which are described by a superposition of eigenstates as to their trajectory {Psi(x,y,z,t)}.

You'll note this superposition of eigenstates (the photon's wavefunction) is merely descriptive. It is not the photon itself, it merely describes every interaction the photon could possibly undergo as it travels through coordinates x, y and z over time t.

Upon our observing it, we select the eigenstate which accurately describes the photon's trajectory (ie: we "collapse" the wavefunction) by throwing out all the inaccurate descriptions of the photon's trajectory.

Thus your "wave of superposition" is handwavium word-soup. You should try cracking a quantum mechanics book, Nav.

We've been through this before, Nav. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of quantum mechanics which leads you into this sort of mysticism. Photons exist whether or not there is anyone there to observe them. Before humans, just how did your universe look, and how exactly did it evolve into what we have today, if photons could not have existed prior to life? Are you going to yet again claim the universe evolved, then went back to the beginning of time specifically to create life so it could evolve differently? Because remember, I've already disproved your "intelligent universe" comedy of errors.

This means that the Universe in material form does not exist without a neurological system collapsing the wave function into a particle function.

Again, we've been through all this before. There is no such thing as "collapsing the wave function into a particle function". One would have thought that given

the last time you were set straight on this topic, you would have educated yourself on at least the very basics of wavefunction collapse.

Wavefunction collapse isn't a collapse of anything into anything else, physically speaking. It's merely that there are several event bifurcations which a system may evolve into (what we call eigenstates), and without our being able to observe the system, we must assume that the system can be in any one of those eigenstates. Upon our observing the system, the non-true eigenstates fall away and the true eigenstate remains.

So for a dice prior to rolling it, it can have the eigenstates of:

{1 -or- 2 - or- 3 -or- 4 -or- 5 -or- 6}

This is the wavefunction of this dice prior to rolling it.

Since we can't know what number the dice will land on, we must assume the dice is in a superposition of all of those eigenstates. It's a sciency way of saying, "Dunno, could be any of those.".

But once we roll the dice, we observe that it lands on, say, 4. Thus the wavefunction 'collapses' to:

{4}

That's it. That's all. It's the same for every system. There is no "collapsing the wavefunction to the particle function", mainly because your fundamental misunderstanding of quantum mechanics has led you to believe that a wavefunction is the physical object, when it really represents a description of a given number of

**possibilities** of the system's state prior to our observing the actual system state, whereupon the wavefunction "collapses" to the observed state (ie: all the untrue states are discarded).

Also, there is no such thing as a "particle function" in the context you're attempting to use.

In other words the material Universe doesn't exist until life exists which is kind of confusing until you realize that it was us that invented the concept of time, for the Universe time is not a linear function but rather a spatial function.

Humans didn't "invent" time, we merely invented the means by which to quantify it. Again, we've been through all this before.

Take for example Quantum entanglement: It has been proven by just about every University in the world that entangled Photon's reaction time is instantaneous and not at C. For those who don't know about entanglement: Imagine two Photons that have the same spin state, what ever you do to one Photon then the other reacts exactly the same.

Even when you part the two Photons and put vast distances between them, they still behave the same so that what ever you do to one particle instantly happens to the other, even if they are divided by the entire Universe. The reaction time has been measured as instantaneous. This makes a mockery of Einstein's theory that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

Why do you persist in your fallacious belief when you've already been schooled on this topic? Entanglement is like if you took a pair of gloves and put the left glove in Suitcase A, and the right glove in Suitcase B.

Then you send the suitcases in opposite directions to the edge of our cosmological particle horizon. They are thus ~90.68 billion light years distant from each other.

Now, if a person opens Suitcase A, they immediately know that Suitcase B contains a right glove, and vice versa if they open Suitcase B.

Did anything "travel faster than c"? No.

Was causality broken? No.

Now, Nav... if a person were to open suitcase A and start cutting the fingers off of the left glove, your belief system states that the fingers of the right glove will also be cut! But we know that won't happen, right, Nav?

In reality, Nav, trying to interact with either photon to change it will destroy the entanglement, and will not affect the other photon one bit.

You've learned the key words and tricky phrases, Nav... now all that remains is for you to actually understand what you're writing about. My guess is that you haven't done so because that's the hard part.

From your previous (third) schooling on this topic:This is the third time you've been told what wavefunction and wavefunction collapse is... the superposition of eigenstates of your schooling on this topic are:

{"He gets it! He finally gets it!" -or- "He's still clueless and blathering about a sentient universe."}

We won't know which is the case until we observe your response, whereupon the eigenstate which is not true will "collapse" and be eliminated... congratulations, you've become your own example of how wrong you are. But since you claim that I can alter the system by mere thought and observation (and you're my system now muahahaha), I'm **willing** you to "finally get it". If you fail to, you destroy your own argument.

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