What is the next step assuming the water part is sorted? Russ what is the price on the water spliters/injectors....?

Quote from Mechanic on August 28th, 2013, 12:47 AM

What is the next step assuming the water part is sorted? Russ what is the price on the water spliters/injectors....?

good work my friend,

there is no price on the injectors. i still haven't even gotten mine done yet...  

even when its done i will not be selling them so i have know idea. a machine shop could build one with the drawings provided.

~Russ

keep up the good work!

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Hi,
thanks JEFF your'e always there with a answer for me, thanx uncle Jeff, be BLESSED
Boere groete
mechanic

Here again,
I had that cell running for +- 30 minutes and then stopped to strip and set the tubes....
This is then what i found... Chalky build up.

Well thought i should share this.
Boere groete,
Mechanic.

Hey Mechanic, I got the same thing @ 1/2 amp, I think this is a good thing when this happens, Stan talks about it.

Hi Jeff,

Sorry J, another dumb question... Do you know of a Stan video with chalk buildup showing anywere....? If the gas production was so good there should be  some sighn somewhere of this chalky build...? This bothers me, everybody worry about conditioning the tubes but i've never seen that on a Meyer cell...

Just a thought.....
Boere groete,
Mechanic.

Have not seen a video of this, never saw his tubes taken apart, but I know Stan did talk about this in one of his briefs or patents.
The reason, I referred you to Ravi's site, or Panacea University.:D Tube conditioning is possibly something Stan did. All Stan's research lead to the gas injectors and the other equipment to make them work, he did not use the tube set up with the finished product. He used the gas processor, gas gun and electronics to make hydrogen/oxygen.

Based on my theory explaining how the WFC is capable on extracting energy out of the vacuum/ZP field/aether/whatever name you prefer, I think he most likely used electropolished stainless:

http://www.open-source-energy.org/?tid=1372

With electopolishing, a much thicker layer of chromium oxide is formed compared to other passivation processes, so I think that would be the way to go forward.

Amp restriction is done by the circuit you design..... The calky build up has verry litle to do with amp restriction, maby 0.010 mA.....also a hidden obvios(sorry) is that the rules you apply to you're cap should be that of a inductor because you're spliting the molecule with magnetic force and not with amps....amps is only the strength of the field and volts how big the field is.........1.2v - 1.8v per survise is all you need otherwise you over kill.....according to what I see here(my circuit) witch is not meyers's, there is now zpe, only using the supply of energy wisely wich in return causes verry litle energy consumption.......on you're supply side(before circuit) you're consumption will be high(mine 12A and rising as heat rises)all 9 tube sets) depending on the sell size.......behined the cicuit each set draws 0.035mA and is then seen as 9 seperate indutors......as the heat rises (because of the friction caused by spliting) the amp draw increases to 0.050mA per set then I have to shut down or the dpi plastic starts to melt/leak(45 min no presure/open top) with pressure 30min...... The gas rate are, in my case, determined by the gap size in the tubes as also found by Ravi.......the problem is heat and I think the increasment of free electrons in the water causes this......I would like some ideas on exstracting these electrons from the water.....o yes, I've got a feedback from the negative back to the alternator wich also helps with A restriction......at this stage I can not show the circuit but will answer and help in every other way posible........I've quikly connected a balister transformer as supply and have to say......zpe.......I measured 0.6A on the supply(220) from the plug, 12v output measured +-15A(all still ac supply), then after my circuit I measured 0.859A per tube set, so yes somewhere there is extra energy coming into the system......

As I thought......thanks........

Ok, I would have told my way of hho production after I solved the heat issue but my hand has been forced and I now need to get my info out asap........
I opened up a 90 Amp 3 phase bosh alternator and solderd the 3 seprate wires(1.5mm surflex) from the highest mesuring ac points...... I then fitted a 3 pin connector plug on the wires then connected that a 3 phase rectifier with another piece of 3 core 1.5mm surflex..... The 3 pase rectifier is two seprate heat sinks.......one positive with 3 positive 30A stud diodes and the other negitive with 3 negitive 30A stud diodes.....each AC line from the alternator should be connected/solderd to both the negative and positive diodes (3 ac lines 6 diodes)... Now the AC is DC on the heat sink + & -....concect a 25v 2500uf cap accros the + & - heat  sinks.....this help your DC supply to be stedy but in my experience helps the puls in the DC as well. I also installed a relay on my DC - to switch the cell on and off but the relay also takes load off like in installing spot lights on a vehicle you add relays to take the load of wires and switches.....

The following is VERRY IMPORTANT.....taking the + & - wires(short) from the heat sink/s to a conector block, then seperate + wires(paralel) for each + tube(9 + cells 9 + wires) and for the - each a separate wire as well...One thing I see (in my opinion) is that it is not capasitors in the water but inductors, the tubes I mean, the circuit I now shared here, again my opinion, is a magnetic field generator and this you can opserve by putting a north south compas next to your cell.....
If anyone are willing or able to build this circuit I'll be happy to share the rest of my thoughts and ideas on what ever mater......... If I'm able later I'll post some snap shot to clear some things but for most WFC tinkerers this should be some awsome gas production......

Enjoy, and hope to read lots of coments and questions

Later.....Sorry I forgot to say that from the - heat sink you should add a wire back to the alternators casing (feedback) this lowers the load even more......

Please replicate this verry quikly and share with as much as posible as my ex mate set out in a patend on this circuit and as I understand he went to Sasol to try and get some thing done there, not sure what, but that might go bad if they can somehow patend it and stop the circuit usage??

Hi all, is there anyone out there with a top bottom and side veiw fotos of the negitive plate assembly.......???? I pritty please would like to see them......

Blessings......
Me.....

Quote from Mechanic on November 2nd, 2013, 02:13 PM

...One thing I see (in my opinion) is that it is not capasitors in the water but inductors, the tubes I mean, the circuit I now shared here, again my opinion, is a magnetic field generator and this you can opserve by putting a north south compas next to your cell.....
...

can you take magnetic measurements from the cell when there is no water inside? I would expect the water to be the electromagnetic device in the circuit. so without water there should be no magnetic influence ...

of course the wires could also get magnetic if there is some current flow ...

Hi again,
bussi04, I was sponsored a amp meter( like in the photo of the pulse voltage frequency generator of Stan.....and coneccted it on 1 tube to mesure amps and got that 1 tube set draw 2 amps, so yes.....

Sorry for not having to much knowlede with these mesuring of al the frequencies and amps...money is the problem for most of us....Ok as I said on JP tread, (if someone can post a link there) all that info released a question I struggled with of the wave form and the right connection from the alternator to the cell...
In my connection, as described earlier, I used a normal full wave bridge rectifyer...... this is where I think we all go wrong.....
What I picked up on JP's tread, getting the connection right to generate the right waveform, we should only use the star conection (taped from the alternator) for positive......for negitive you should tap the delta conection (from alternator) and then use that as the negitive......

Correct me if I'm wrong but this will genarate a wave patern where + and - wil be accros from each other??

By having this we will generate the + and - at the same time causing an elastic band effect on the water molecul as Stan explained??
I might be wrong, but remember reading somewhere (patends or google) that when you do this with the water molecuul(rubber band effect), the stress causes the hydrogen to release its electron and create a new electron (????) and then the oxygen takes the electron while this keeps happening until the molecuel falls appart???
As this was the problem with my setup (waveform) I connected my cell like I explained and the amp draw per tube fell from 2A per tube to 0.5A measured on an in line connected amp meter wich is marked 0, 1/2, 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5......to 15A...... total draw on the 9 tube sets should then be 4.5 amps with 6V....... There is also some gass production but good gass for half an amp per set........

Awaitng your feedback on this info supplied......

Sorry forgot to mention, the cell is now running for 1 hour 30 min....... with NO increase in amps or heat...... I'll update on the heat and amps during the day.....

Blessings.........

Ok it is now 3 hrs later and the water is starting to heat up...the amps is still the same.......
I think with this way of connecting it is my best so far......I'll keep the cell going for longer just to see what the amps do.....

I'm now quite impressed with this connection......the amps is still 0.5A(per cell) after another 3 hrs (total hrs 6) and the water temp also consant at 36 degrees for the last 3 hrs (mesured with a fever stick?)

If I can assume the waveform to be in "unipolar"form (exactly opisit of each oter and matching) then I can proceed from here to the chokes and pulsing circuit that match the alternator setup.....I think this is now a stable circuit to start further testing from......
The cell is still running and I'll check it again later........

After 9 hours I switched of the cell, still 0.5A, 6V and water still at 36 degrees.......

At that wattage its normal that it staied cool

One more question if someone can help? For amps per tube we multiply by amount of cells....?? How does the volt calculation work??

Thanks

yes,For amps per tube we multiply by amount of cells in paralel,and in series amps drop but also production per tube

Thanks Adys15, never even thought of checking the wattage.......just thought amps = heat.....but yes 27wats is not much.......how do I calculate the power input to gass output according to the faraday law????

Thanks.Adys, what about the volage? Is that per tube or cell or total voltage output divided by the tube sets?

 total voltage output divided by the tube sets
i dont know  how to calculate by faraday formula...
Strange is that i put  rectified mains on a tubeset and heated water in secounds(220v-5A)...so voltage also heats water...

That is what happened with me as well........but I measured the amps at 18A x 220V.......what is your cell size? How do you measure the amps??

18A because you used tap water,cell size 20cm long,gap 2mm
i measured amps with a  normal meter..

Tanks Adys....!!
One more thing I just noticed, and would like confirmation on, that after watching the '93 lecture Stanley explain, through the Grace of God and how I under stood it, that when you reach full voltage potential, maximum voltage amplitude, you switch off "5 seconds" and then by switching on again you create resonant action... because when you switch off you can produce gas for 94 seconds while the voltage potential drop and therefore when you switch on again after that "5 seconds" the gas process starts off at a higher rate causing more gas production and therefore entering a resonant gas production rate and by repeating this on/off process you reach maximum applied voltage through now n step charged effect to maximum applied voltage or until the full flow rate of water into the now resonant cavity is achieved.....
Do I have this correct or am I missing something here????
Please reply with input if I'm not correct in my understanding of his explanation!!!!

Thanks

Quote from Mechanic on December 3rd, 2013, 08:41 AM

.....the '93 lecture Stanley explain............

Please refresh my memory, which lecture was that?
Do you have a link to it?
Thanks.

Hi Lynx,

Only thing I can give you is the name wich is on the video my friend down loaded an brought me.... " Stanley Meyer 1993 International Symposium on Energy Colorado " "Length 01:38:56"

Hope you get the video..... a dark blond/light brown haired woman starts the video and Stanley ends the video where he runs out of time.......

Thank Bro....

Quote from Mechanic on December 3rd, 2013, 08:41 AM

Tanks Adys....!!
One more thing I just noticed, and would like confirmation on, that after watching the '93 lecture Stanley explain, through the Grace of God and how I under stood it, that when you reach full voltage potential, maximum voltage amplitude, you switch off "5 seconds" and then by switching on again you create resonant action... because when you switch off you can produce gas for 94 seconds while the voltage potential drop and therefore when you switch on again after that "5 seconds" the gas process starts off at a higher rate causing more gas production and therefore entering a resonant gas production rate and by repeating this on/off process you reach maximum applied voltage through now n step charged effect to maximum applied voltage or until the full flow rate of water into the now resonant cavity is achieved.....
Do I have this correct or am I missing something here????
Please reply with input if I'm not correct in my understanding of his explanation!!!!

Thanks

very good work. this is what um i? been saying all along Its a bias. I uploaded at least 2 patent on this that do the same thing. now the theory is its a bias, but in your case you are the first to make any type of acknowledgment. by your graze you have the answer that puzzeled everyone all this time. i dont understand how it could have, considering all the patents that refer to it.

i will loacate all these patents they are scattered all over the place so people can see them :huh:

but its time for a new wfc threat putting it all together with the most basic understanding. cheers..:D:D

Quote from Mechanic on December 3rd, 2013, 10:33 AM

Hi Lynx,

Only thing I can give you is the name wich is on the video my friend down loaded an brought me.... " Stanley Meyer 1993 International Symposium on Energy Colorado " "Length 01:38:56"

Hope you get the video..... a dark blond/light brown haired woman starts the video and Stanley ends the video where he runs out of time.......

Thank Bro....

Awesome, thanks for sharing