Quote from evostars on June 4th, 2017, 02:22 AM

a ring vortex has  a rotating ring.
the rotational direction is related to the direction the ring vortex moves in.

but from the same direction they entangle. but it requires one moving faster than the other. and the same direction.

if we translate this to the magnetic and dielectric,
one has to be lower in frequency. and their direction needs to be the same.

to transfer this to nelsons setup,
a magnetic vortex coil combines with a dielectric ring vortex coil (blue middle with dielectric).
and a output coil. so the energy moves from one end to the other.

the center coil is not the output. its the dielectric ringvortex. the left coil is the magnetic vortex that combines with the dielectric ring vortex. giving it power. (wrapping around it?)

the output coil only sees the magnetic and dielectric combined fields

In the picture; light blue is the magnetic vortex
green is the dielectric ring vortex
dark blue is the output

first create te dielectric vortex ring.
build a bifilarcoil with a dielectric between the windings (2 unifilar coil series connected with dielectric between them.

second... a hv pulse at resonant frequency.
it needs to be high voltage to bridge the distance between the coils (generates a vortex ring in the dielectric

Create the magnetic vortex ring first, let it propagate to the position between the two blue coils, then subject it to a dielectric discharge.  That's the template for producing hybrid hot electricity that can be collected in the output coil.

Yes Evo, I do believe you have captured the essence of creating electricity from its constituent parts.

 :thumbsup:

thanks Matt.

I do think the dielectric ring toroid in between the two series connected unifilar coil is automaticly there when its in its resonant frequency (together a bifilar)

the magnetic vortex is then sucked into the dielectric ring toroid.

but hey. so far its a thought. we need to build this.

a magnetic toroid ... i dont know.
a toroid is a toroid what would be the differnce if the toroid isnt traveling (confined between blue unifilar coils).
what would define the differnce?

the form of a ether field specifies its characteristics.
so the trick seems to be in tranfsorming the field form.

from a vortex(magnetic) into a ring toroid, that energises the spiral (dielectric of the output coil)

The way I see this is we first create a vortex ring, strong on the magnetic side.  Similar technique as used for a smoke ring, just a pop of high current to the pancake coil.  This ring then travels through the first charged bifilar pancake coil and enters into the dielectric region between the two charged bifilar coils.  When it gets there, we rapidly create a discharge between the two bifilar pancake coils.  These coils are acting like capacitor plates, but have the Phi ratio hole in the middle.  The dielectric discharge then engages the magnetic vortex ring (because it has to go somewhere) and wraps dielectric capacity into this vortex ring.  The ring then passes through the second bifilar pancake coil and finally hits the output coil which senses the spinning vortex ring as vibration, now strong with both magnetic and dielectric components.

Thinking about this in visual form, the round wires are actually better suited than flat PCB-type pancake coils, at least on the magnetic coil and the output coil.  They may still work nicely for the HV dielectric coils.  We need to use some judgement on how large/thick the magnetic vortex ring is too.  We want it to be about the same thickness as the dielectric material between the two HV bifilar pancake coil plates.  We also need to think about the polarity and direction of motion of the vortex ring.  If the dielectric discharge tries to go in the opposite direction, the magnetic vortex ring will likely blow apart and we'll see nothing at the output coil.

Where I'm still shaky is what happens when this vortex ring passes through the two bifilar pancake coils being used as capacitor plates.  Do we lose a good portion of the magnetic field?  Do we get a strong current pulse going back to the HV driver?  Do we need some diodes to prevent this?

When Nelson said, "I'd be lying to you if I told you that is all there is to it."  He wasn't kidding.  I'm just hoping when we hit the bench we will be able to tell when we are doing things wrong as well as when we are doing things right.

experimenting and logging data will teach us.

nelson to me:
About your test i'm glad that you could duplicate yourself the " apparently "magnetic field exclusion with your new configuration ;) nice ! Hope you explore this theme and see if that  are only made by high frequency , or something more happen ;)  like stack other pancake coil and look to that like one capacitor exchanging charges between each plate  (two pancake coils ) .

he sure can be cryptic with his broken english
:D

Im watching a part of "the cove" about dolphins.
at 59min 29 sec you can see a dolphin powering a ring vortex with a push of air.
brilliant

If we could give a dolphin a pair of arms and hands, he could show us exactly how to build Nelson's device.  Contrary to popular belief, I think typical humans are generally dumber than most of the other creatures on this planet.  We have a long way to go Evo...

and learn to think with our hearts.
use intuition
telepathic communication.

its all about opening mind and heart

and letting go of the deep false programming of our culture.

letting go of the false magnetic field image
letting go of the electron particle image
letting go of the idea we know all there is to know.
letting go of quantum physics (i never bought it luckily)

we know so little. about vortex technology.

but hej. we've come this far! we will get there.
nelson and many others have shown us.

oh man... i have to turn off this movie
 it shows japanese man killing dolphins.
aaaaargg
:(

Quote from evostars on June 9th, 2017, 02:24 PM

a magnetic field is like a double ringvortex. but polarised. so the ring vortexes come together on the dielectric plane in the middle (bloch wall) but are counter rotating into eachother.(?)

so... what happens to this longitudinal ring vortex component? when the magnetic field collapses?

the dielectric rotation stops. does the magnetic vortex rotation also stop? then the collapse is really like 2 ringvortices turning into eachother. rotation power is gone, but the diameter (voltage component) is still there.

But the question is:  Does the magnetic field actually collapse?   It doesn't in a permanent magnet because the dielectric inertial plain is still there.  So if the dielectric component of the ring vortex is still there, I'm guessing the magnetic component is too--trapped due to field pressure modality.

My feeling is the dielectric component is what determines if the magnetic component survives or not.  When a ring vortex comes apart, I'm betting this is because the dielectric component finds an escape path and dissipates.  This then brings on the apparent magnetic field collapse because it no longer has a container.  This almost sounds too simple, but could well be the real mechanism behind what we observe as magnetic fields building and collapsing.  What may be the apparent slowness of the magnetic field building and collapsing is the rotational speed within the vortex--this would have inertia and would take time to change state.  Spin cannot be instantaneous.

     There is alot of different ideas in this thread so allow me to address a few of these ideas.

     First idea is about the plastic block on the wooden table and the removal creating a voltage potential.
Here is a website that explains the phenomenon.  Basically when you have two objects they have a
certain capacity and when you separate the two, you decrease the capacity between them due to
each having its own charge (however minute it might be), and due to the drop of capacity the voltage increases for example the Wimshurst generator.

     Second is the idea of using a diamagnetic core for a coil.  The EM field of the coil wrapped around
a closed copper wire core or any diamagnetic material will never interact with each other in a positive
way due to the fields being perpendicular to each other.  The only thing you will get is a very hot core
and a huge load to the driving coil. Here is an engineer answering the question.

     Third is the magnetic field collapsing and the dielectric field.  According to modern theories the
 "Magnetic Field" always has existed but is only channeled with the use of a permanent magnet or
an electromagnet. If we align the paramagnetic atoms from left to right and keep these atoms aligned
 we create an environment for the magnetic field to flow through.  There is another analog to the
magnetic field and that is the Electret.
This is the alignment of dielectric materials that are held still that will generate an electric field
 just like a magnet.  This is an example of a man taking the concept and applying it to create FE.

ah the electret. often used in cheap microphones.

a quote from wikipedia:
Electrets, like magnets, are dipoles. Another similarity is the radiant fields: They produce an electrostatic field (as opposed to a magnetic field) around their perimeter. When a magnet and an electret are near one another, a rather unusual phenomenon occurs: while stationary, neither has any effect on one another. However, when an electret is moved with respect to a magnetic pole, a force is felt which acts perpendicular to the magnetic field, pushing the electret along a path 90 degrees to the expected direction of 'push' as would be felt with another magnet.

this I recognise as the Hall effect, which I also suspect is happening in the bifilar coil with its strong dielectric field

post them here :)

Someone shared an eye / ear candy video with me that quite upset me due to the nature of Rife's research that seems to be all but forgotten. In it he mentions how harmonics was the key to their results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBL9pS6GMdA


However, here's the original full length (and some of his other videos):
https://www.youtube.com/user/Novobiotronics/videos


I believe understanding resonance / harmonics holds the key to nearly everything at the moment. In this light I noticed how you tune things and I think driving that home and reiterating this topic is critical. It seems to be a skill and thought process perhaps largely sidelined due to its additional complication. However, having said this, it seems that this is the key to everything that you do since size and position don't matter so much as getting them tuned properly!


Your videos have begun to bring that into a more important focus for me.

Quote from illumination on January 2nd, 2020, 09:55 AM

Someone shared an eye / ear candy video with me that quite upset me due to the nature of Rife's research that seems to be all but forgotten. In it he mentions how harmonics was the key to their results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBL9pS6GMdA


However, here's the original full length (and some of his other videos):
https://www.youtube.com/user/Novobiotronics/videos


I believe understanding resonance / harmonics holds the key to nearly everything at the moment. In this light I noticed how you tune things and I think driving that home and reiterating this topic is critical. It seems to be a skill and thought process perhaps largely sidelined due to its additional complication. However, having said this, it seems that this is the key to everything that you do since size and position don't matter so much as getting them tuned properly!


Your videos have begun to bring that into a more important focus for me.

Yes tuning is essential.
luckily I am very able at it.
the 5 coil setup, with the L3 output in the middle needs to be tuned precisely.

the duration of the impulse from L1 needs to line up with half of L3 period.
L3 needs to be a higher octave of L2 series resonance.

it all needs to lign up.
Than I hope to get  the trumpet wave, steinmetz predicted.

I was looking at your "insights" post from July: "insights, How to create a Aether ring vortex" (https://open-source-energy.org/?topic=3462.msg53431#msg53431), but I am not clear on a couple of things in this thread:
1) did you make the video that discusses this topic since this appears to be kind of what you're talking about from your Christmas video + your "Radiant Power produced by solid state Tesla hairpin circuit" video. I was curious as to whether you were going to follow this up with an actual dedicated video to explain this very concept in an isolated fashion or not?


2) are all of the postings within the "insights..." thread a continuation or separate "insights"? You seem to use different titles sometimes so it's a little confusing as to what this entire thread is: https://p153.p0.n0.cdn.getcloudapp.com/items/BluNK6R1/titles.png

Quote from illumination on January 2nd, 2020, 11:13 AM

I was looking at your "insights" post from July: "insights, How to create a Aether ring vortex" (https://open-source-energy.org/?topic=3462.msg53431#msg53431), but I am not clear on a couple of things in this thread:
1) did you make the video that discusses this topic since this appears to be kind of what you're talking about from your Christmas video + your "Radiant Power produced by solid state Tesla hairpin circuit" video. I was curious as to whether you were going to follow this up with an actual dedicated video to explain this very concept in an isolated fashion or not?


2) are all of the postings within the "insights..." thread a continuation or separate "insights"? You seem to use different titles sometimes so it's a little confusing as to what this entire thread is: https://p153.p0.n0.cdn.getcloudapp.com/items/BluNK6R1/titles.png

Most are ideas and insights, some are related some not.

future video probably will cover vortex ring, as it is related to L1 and L2 coupling which I want to explain

Thought this was interesting and provided some possibly useful isights and research options (up until her nearly final remarks):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6331JXvOUGY

My own conclusion is that magnetic and electric fields create stress in the Ether. Releasing that stress manifests in energy. People have told me that Ether is and outdated concept, but I think this is just a part of the lies we are being fed. Nobody would pay for electricity or work 6 days a week to pay for some imaginary loan, if we can just leave this planet and go claim our own. That's is why it is important to tech people meaningless crap and make them even proud of it.

What I am trying to do personally is to create Ether stress and then use OCD of Nature to provide me with the energy. The beauty of this is that you do not even need to know where the energy comes from. Nature will provide the energy there, if you just arrange circumstances correctly.

Resonance is one thing that can be abused. That is why Master Ivo's video's are right on the money.

@Belfior I also believe this to be very true at some level. There is an amazing book by Dr. James DeMeo that was recently released that I believe is critical for everyone to read in terms of understanding that A) the (a)ether is real and B) it was systematically hidden / removed from science over the past 130 years.


I'm glad you say what you have. I've also found that the electric grid system was a really elaborate scheme (scam) to get people to buy into systematized utility dependency. It would not have been necessary if the work of Dayton Miller had not been attacked so viciously. I have thought very highly of Steinmetz over the years, but recently learned that he was part of a communist agenda of creating this system of dependency (I saw the paper trails that clearly show this). It was a big let down for me, but I was glad to have my eyes opened to understand just how critical it is that we not only understand the ether - BUT more importantly - USE the ether in the ways that Master Ivo is so focused on and nobly working towards!

Well I think it took me 39 years to snap out of the hypnosis that was put on me my whole life. I mean currently I feel that 90% of everything we are being fed is a lie or just misinformation. I was a proud "materialist" that believed we are meat sacks and that you got this life and then you die. So already there is the fear put into you that you need to get rich fast and you keep yourself in this prison grinding money for the 1%. You get rich through education so you go to all the schools that imprint the lies onto you more firmly. You become a priest of this cult yourself and you will not any crazy person try to break it.

Then when you finally wake up (if you ever do) you start to see everything through the same critical eyes and do not emotion guide you anymore (meaning they can trigger you to doing things).

Ether is being still actively being killed. Nobody teaches in school that even the great Einstein said that his theories do not describe reality and that a universe is not imaginable without ether. You can find these quotes via google.

I see lotsa people trying to find OU with the knowledge they got from school. You cannot find it that way. School was created so you could not find it. Why would anybody in control allow there to be ideas or schools that actually gave you something to overcome the slavery?!? People are so proud and blind if they studied something and got a degree. Your thesis might be about black holes and are there any such holes? The current scientific dogmas are crumbling and they are frantically being patched with more lies. The modern view of nuclear physics and the structure of the atom is faulty. Einstein's theories have flaws like dividing by 0 or that his unbiased "unprivileged observer" is not only privileged, but it is the only observer.

Went on a full rant here, but to pull this back to the topic I find that Evo is doing valuable work and the most important thing is that he does not just talk Poo like I do. He can prove his stuff on the bench.

I am currently proving my own theories now that I finally got all the gear ready. If I am right we can have free energy tomorrow. If my intuition is wrong I will shut up and start knitting or reading horoscopes.

You are right on the money @Belfior. You most definitely need to pick up that book as it clarifies some of these points you're making (indirectly, but very powerfully).  It also includes the Einstein quotes (and so many more) to which you refer. Powerful knowledge that needs to be shared far and wide.


So tell me, what does your bench consist of?  I'd very much like a "shopping list" to pull together a bench that won't be deficient.  I suspect I have a lot of what's already needed, but it would be nice to have a list.

• And are you referring to your own work or Ivo's work regarding a breakthrough? 
• Are you literally talking about tomorrow or the proverbial tomorrow as in you're currently working towards a goal? 
• Are you documenting your own efforts somewhere that are independent and unique from Ivo's?

Well my bench is basically just 2 oscilloscopes, few signal generators and PSUs. Then what ever clear plastic boxes I have that hold individual projects. Then one closet full of gear that I apparently order from China when I'm drunk

My ideology here is that if there is OU to be achieved, then it is kept from us by different means. This is what I would do, if I wanted to sell energy to people. I would tell them all sources are hard to come by and I would hang 6 cables on pylons and not just the 2. Then I charge them for the energy and the infrastructure.

(The new take on this old idea is that thy cut down the Amazon rain forest and then burn the wood in the UK in a "carbon neutral" and "biomass" reactors. People are being scared with CO2 and they are wiling to pay more for this "clean" energy. Except nobody plants new trees and the hide the illegal logging with the forest fires. So no so very neutral, but people are willing to pay 3x the cost, if they can get rid of the energy using guilt with that money.)

Since everything in Nature is beautiful and simple, so must the OU be. It is very likely that it is right infront of our faces and we might already be using it and in some extent we do. So it is hidden in plain sight and the reason we ignore it is because the indoctrination that we receive. If they teach you that "you should never do this" or "This cannot happen" then that is the first thing try.

I am referring to my own work. Ivo just has material that I also use or I am interested at, so what ever he is doing I am not doing so that my efforts are directed to stuff Ivo is not currently studying 

I will be working on my system today and tomorrow

I am documenting my efforts and if there is anything new that comes out I will publish it with schematics and videos on how to replicate it. That is the only way we can be free of this slavery. Trying to get patents or selling out to energy companies is the main reason why we do not have free energy yet.

Why I do not publish anything now is that some of my stuff is way out there and might be totally wrong. There are so many people like that out there, that I do not want to waste anybody's time if I am wrong. Also if I am on the right track then I just make myself a target by telling where I'm going towards. There will be one line news somewhere that a crazy person electrocuted himself trying to find the impossible free energy that cannot exist and then links to regulations on electrical safety. Most likely I also shot myself in the back of my head 3 times while electrocuting myself...

But please use private messaging to ask any further information on my stuff, so that Ivo's thread won't become a rant chat

@evostars very interesting new video from Lori Gardi regarding torus simulations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujo0HYcvLoI

Rant away on this page. it's fine by me.
I won't read all comments, as I am doing The Work, while writing The Book
 ;)
i made a Instagram for sharing some photo's
https://www.instagram.com/master.ivo/

And I'll make a new page on my workbench, for the dual system setup (high and low circuits)

@evostars you may find this magnetic isopotential line measuring interesting in the way of visualization: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwr0eZy7Hk8