Like thus:

I can somewhat visualize my thinking in my head.  I need to put it to paper somehow where it makes sense.

The thing to keep in mind is where dielectricity or the dielectric field lives.  It's happy place is in insulators, between capacitor plates, in between windings of coils.  This is where it comes from and where it tries to go back to when disturbed.  It doesn't like conductors, but will follow the path in between two conductors, such as a transmission line.  In the case of a shorted transmission line, it will follow the non-conductive space all the way to the end where the line terminates and then bounce back.  This bounce is where we can now have two waves moving in opposite directions and if things are properly positioned, nodes will form that have double the amplitude of the original charge intensity.  That's a single forward moving wave with a single reverse moving wave, only two waves, but there's more...

When the reverse moving wave gets all the way back to the secondary, it's dead-ended again, so it will bounce again.  We want this bounce to align perfectly with the first forward moving wave.  By doing so, the amplitude doubles again.  If we could watch these waves bounce back-n-forth inside of a wash tube, it would be easy to visualize where the nodes form and how much intensity builds up, but there's a little problem, these dielectric waves are moving at 1.57 times the speed of light.  So even with 9000 turns of wire for these fields to negotiate, they are there and back so fast it's nearly impossible to calculate where the nodes should form.  But we still need to do these calculations to roughly know where to look.  If we can find just one pair of adjacent nodes, then we can manually tweak things and bring them in to the spacing and position we want.

Matt it's easy to visualise on my drawing I did before your last post. The voltage or dielectricity is not able to pass the high impedance loop at the top of the hairpin and if it bounces off and comes back towards the spark gap then the standing waves will appear somewhere between the high impedance path and the lower impedance path of the spark gap. This is where voltage maxima nodes are located on closed loop transmission lines.
Place the water fuel cell on a slide tuner that moves up and down the hairpin and you'll find them.

Quote from nav on April 13th, 2017, 11:38 AM

Matt it's easy to visualise on my drawing I did before your last post. The voltage or dielectricity is not able to pass the high impedance loop at the top of the hairpin and if it bounces off and comes back towards the spark gap then the standing waves will appear somewhere between the high impedance path and the lower impedance path of the spark gap. This is where voltage maxima nodes are located on closed loop transmission lines.
Place the water fuel cell on a slide tuner that moves up and down the hairpin and you'll find them.

Which means you'd let the standing waves work it's magic with the water molecules while they're bouncing back and forth and "merely" let the VIC keep the waves waving, thus drawing minimal energy from the VIC? Would that be the sentiment here?

Something to ponder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasAn7aJa6o

Quote from Lynx on April 14th, 2017, 12:18 AM

Which means you'd let the standing waves work it's magic with the water molecules while they're bouncing back and forth and "merely" let the VIC keep the waves waving, thus drawing minimal energy from the VIC? Would that be the sentiment here?

High standing wave ratio's are usually associated with transmission line currents and are caused by either the wrong resonant length of the antenna, coax mismatch or in the case of the hairpin loop the reactances of the caps and inductor do not fall in line with the resonance of the oscillator frequency.
Tesla has produced a resonant loop antenna in the normal way we do this, by the use of capacitance/inductance tuning, an oscillator frequency and a loop of wire which the length of is not massively important. But he has also systematically detuned it at the same time by placing a lower impedance spark gap below the two capacitors. So Tesla's loop antenna has the two capacitors sat in a bottleneck of the system, the bottleneck is where the standing waves sit because its like placing a spark gap across the coax of a transmission line, instead of it being 50 Ohms, the spark gap is 5000 Ohms so the standing waves get reflected back towards the oscillator from this point. But if you have capacitors sat where the reflections are located, instead of reflecting back towards the oscillator you offer them a route of least resistance through the capacitor. like in the first picture.
But Matt wishes to place his banks of capacitors in the zone between the chokes and the high impedance node and have the spark gap on the secondary. I slightly disagree, i'd place the banks of caps like i've placed them on the second picture and have the spark gap after the chokes.

Stan has dealt with current by using the magnetic fields of the chokes to inhibit the flow of current which leaves you with low current high voltage oscillations.
But even voltage has to be resonant to avoid reflecting back at the oscillator but right where those reflections take place Stan has placed his WFC where the impedance mismatch is the greatest. You see, the spark gap is perhaps 5000 ohms, the dead short is in the mega Ohms but the capacitance across the WFC may only be 1200 Ohms and if the 1200 Ohms is sat right where the reflections are and the voltage maxima of the incident wave then the reflection will always chose the 1200 Ohm route exactly like they do when you build an automatic antenna unit. The unit filters out bad impedances through capacitance and shunts them to ground.

Matt, have you considered replacing the spark gap with a resistor across the output terminals of the choke? The resistor will act as a lower impedance and the dead short across the banks of caps will be in the mega Ohms if the series circuit is resonant. The fuel cell will fall into the voltage node between resistor and the dead short. A spark gap is another form of resistance after all.
If the chokes operate at the self resonant frequency and the hairpin offers a resonant loop then you can still create the same effect with a resistor. Maybe the resistor in the estate pictures is doing this.

Something I'd like people to consider about resistance.

What is the resistance of a fully depleted capacitor?

What is the resistance of a fully charged capacitor?

Can we make the logical association of resistance with the charge state of a capacitor?

For those Wanting  Quiet and safe spark gap tubes

they can be seen here a Must for those doing
 this as most seal in various gas option as to increase efficiency

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These 2 video explain alot of the key points and interesting to fill brain matter on the above.

https://youtu.be/3uXL4_Yas2k

https://youtu.be/AE39wQ7Ty7Q
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Mr Dollard Used 2 , of these
but  it is not apparent from video
if hair pin or  1 each side of dc

http://www.tubecollector.org/1b22.htm

Study material attached.

The image below can be considered a bifilar Tesla secondary with one winding center-tapped.  Take special notice how the coils themselves are open-ended.  Measuring at the load will reveal essentially an infinite resistance regardless of the wire size used.

A suitable driver circuit for the primary (not shown) might be of the CDI type with multiple caps so that only one cap discharges while the remaining caps are charging.  This would allow the pulse frequency to go much higher overcoming the typical RC time constant.  It's also completely solid state requiring no spark gap.

If anyone is able to bring a filament-type 100 watt light bulb to full brightness with this setup, utilizing far less than 100 watts of input power, I'm anxious to see it demonstrated.  I may even do a build myself to satisfy my curiosity.

Just a reminder to all on this thread playing with these flybacks. Over the years I have scrapped out to many CRT monitors and never threw away a single flyback transformer. I have boxes full of these still mounted on the boards free to anyone who asked. Posted a bunch of this stuff here years ago and cleaned some of it up. Can`t beat free !

Quote from ~Russ on April 6th, 2017, 09:12 AM

we are lucky enough to have the original videos from the lectures that Alex was talkign about:
i created a play list:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsiIKXpZfLKIrGFmX3bQa5LR55dM0R0mb

enjoy

~Russ

In part 3 of the video he talks about the effect of the radiant energy. sensation in the neck, and not able to sleep. Talks about using plates near to the body for healing.

That's is exactly what i Experienced with the bifilar coil. I pulsed(12v igbt) a bifilar coil, and placed another one (not connected) on top. The pulsed frequency was  the resonant frequency of the coil on top.

That resonant energy (voltage rise) is radiant I guess. I used it with aluminum foil (isolated) placed on my hips (injury) and it did help. Also I once hooked up a antenna (octaeder) to it and kept it running for 24 hours. I slept a few meters away from it, couldn't sleep, but meditation was excellent. When working with this energy I always am energised (excited, energetic, healthy).

I tested it on some friends, and they all noticed the effects.
Just from a resonant bifilar pancake coil.

If you go back a page Evo, you will see I got a spark gap with the hairpin circuit to 5MHz using a ZVS and Flyback. I show some of the transmitted power via scope shots and what the pulses look like if your interested.

Quote from Diadon on April 30th, 2017, 05:22 PM

If you go back a page Evo, you will see I got a spark gap with the hairpin circuit to 5MHz using a ZVS and Flyback. I show some of the transmitted power via scope shots and what the pulses look like if your interested.

5MHz. that's good to know!

Quote from nav on April 14th, 2017, 01:21 AM

High standing wave ratio's are usually associated with transmission line currents and are caused by either the wrong resonant length of the antenna, coax mismatch or in the case of the hairpin loop the reactances of the caps and inductor do not fall in line with the resonance of the oscillator frequency.
Tesla has produced a resonant loop antenna in the normal way we do this, by the use of capacitance/inductance tuning, an oscillator frequency and a loop of wire which the length of is not massively important. But he has also systematically detuned it at the same time by placing a lower impedance spark gap below the two capacitors. So Tesla's loop antenna has the two capacitors sat in a bottleneck of the system, the bottleneck is where the standing waves sit because its like placing a spark gap across the coax of a transmission line, instead of it being 50 Ohms, the spark gap is 5000 Ohms so the standing waves get reflected back towards the oscillator from this point. But if you have capacitors sat where the reflections are located, instead of reflecting back towards the oscillator you offer them a route of least resistance through the capacitor. like in the first picture.
But Matt wishes to place his banks of capacitors in the zone between the chokes and the high impedance node and have the spark gap on the secondary. I slightly disagree, i'd place the banks of caps like i've placed them on the second picture and have the spark gap after the chokes.

Hello nav :)

Tune Nikola Tesla Transmission Line or as you americans called it hairpin to 7kOm impendance and you will have Scalar Transmission without EM radiation. Tune it to 377 Om and you will have em-radiation. How to tune ? Same like Tesla did - variabile high voltage high current chokes for fine impendance tuning. more over CORRECT placing of magnetic-quench spark gap is CRUCIAL for correct working Hairpin coil. Also amazing effects using asymmetrical, hv capacitros. if you ground the system like it had been in warden cliff tower you will make telluric currents pumping inner earth capacitor.

to all
beware of these bluish-violet sparks because it is high density electron flow accelerated to very high speed probably to or even higher the speed of light.
correct formula is Velektrons = 5,95 • 10⁵√U (m/s), U = ACCELERATING VOLTAGE


TESLA TRICK IS NOT CONDUCTIVITY ELECTRONS CURRENT FLOW BUT RADIANT CHARGES AETHERIC FLOW. IT MEANS IN HIS TUNED SCHEMATIC THERE IS NO ELLECTRONS CURRENT RUNNING - BUT ONLY PURE POTENTIAL TESLA MAGNETIC QUENCH SPARK GAP BLOCK ANY ELECTRON CURRENT THROUGH SPARK GAP BY BREAKING ARC BEFORE ANY CONDUCTIVITY ELECTRONS CURRNT START FLOW. ALSO HIS SPARK GAP HAS A VARIABLE RESISTOR FOR FINE TUNING SPARK-GAP IMPENDANCE WITH ADDITIONAL VARIABILE CHOKES FOR WHOLE CIRCUIT IMPENDANCE MATCHING.

Positions of voltage and current nodes could be determined with high speed oscillosgraph using TDR methods.

PURE RADIANT AETHRIC FLOW IS A SOFT WHITE, DELICATE FLOW OF AETHERIC SUBSTANCE IN FORM OF RAYS. IT IS ALMOST SILVER COLOR FLOW AND WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT IT IS NON HAZARDOUS FOR HUMAN LIFE. :)

YES THERE ARE SOME EFFECTS LIKE STINGING WHEN SHORT IMPULSE DURATION AT MAGNETIC SPARK-GAP ARE INTRODUCED BUT NO ONE WAS HURT WITH RADIANT INCLUDING TESLA WHO HAD MADE MILLION EXPERIMENTS WITH AETHERIC MATTER. IT IS A NEW STATE OF MATTER - AETHERIC FLOW. :)

Стребков Д.С., академик РАЕН Всероссийский научно-исследовательский институт электрификации сельского хозяйства, г. Москва
РАСЧЕТ РЕЗОНАНСНОГО ВЫСОКОВОЛЬТНОГО ТЕСЛА ГЕНЕРАТОРА - HOW TO CALC TESLA TRANSFORMER -
https://yadi.sk/i/5UY2XPKD3ExeCN

ЭКСПЕРИМЕНТЫ САВЕЛЬЕВА И ТАЙНА РАДИАНТНОЙ ЭНЕРГИИ - SAVELYEV EXPERIMENST AND SECRET OF TESLA RADIANT ENERGY
https://yadi.sk/i/dsSuUVsP3Exgfx