Interesting, so VDD was connected to the middle connector of the feedback coil and so feedback signal was biased to VDD. that may have been the reason why the capacitor had to be added to cut off the DC bias for the OpAmp.
Maybe the reason was that the feedback signal should be inverted by referencing to VDD?!?


firepinto, can you please add the capacitor and the jumpered resistor to the schematic and show which leg of the feedback coil was not used?

Quote from Gunther Rattay on December 11th, 2015, 04:43 PM

Interesting, so VDD was connected to the middle connector of the feedback coil and so feedback signal was biased to VDD. that may have been the reason why the capacitor had to be added to cut off the DC bias for the OpAmp.
Maybe the reason was that the feedback signal should be inverted by referencing to VDD?!?


firepinto, can you please add the capacitor and the jumpered resistor to the schematic and show which leg of the feedback coil was not used?

I can do that, I'm digging through my notes to see if I already did, the brain seems to think so.. :)

so wheres fig 10 ?
I had a look for data on LM918M , seems obsolete Op Amp , same pin out as 741 etc
whats with the 1M & 100K resistors connected to test jack ?   a divider

Go Nate :thumbsup: :-D

Quote from nav on December 11th, 2015, 11:04 AM

This is what Ronny said after I'd mentioned the feedback coil measuring flux density in the core and the PLL responding. Now he's changed his mind and copied and pasted a load of tosh from somewhere on the web and now he suddenly 'worked it out'. You guys just amaze me. I don't think Ronnie has his VIC working at all, in fact I don't think he knows how any of it works.

Nav, I don't have to change my mind about anything, I knew about Field Intensity long before you finished potty training more than likely.
Just for your information all my research is date stamped. We don't need to get into who knew what first here, you will more than likely lose with egg on your face.
I can tell from most of your information, you are learning this as you go.
Some information is right and some is wrong in your post.
I was the one that thought if someone got it working besides me it would be you, But i am rethinking that thought.
About your remark about me not having a working VIC or even knows how it works.
Funny thing was i was having a conversation with Neal last night on Skype. Let me share a few lines of it.
This is where Neal and I was talking about me sharing a video with everyone.
[12/10/2015 10:05:51 PM] Ronnie  Walker: I'm thinking about it very seriously, may talk to everyone and see what they think about it.
[12/10/2015 10:06:26 PM] Neal Ward: Ronnie, I am with you in whatever decision you make. You know that
[12/10/2015 10:07:27 PM] Ronnie  Walker: I know but others are still involved in my promise. we will see.

You can see that Neal was behind me 100% on showing my working cell, I also was thinking about asking the others on the team and see what they thought about it...

But now with your insult in your remarks, I have re-thought that idea.
There is no need to prove anything to you.
And really I care less what you think and others like you.
You need to figure this out all on your own, I think you will feel better in the end if you do.
I don't think you need anymore help from me since you think you got it all figured out, and I don't know how it all works anyway.
But you don't know how close I was in sharing a video with everyone here. I guess we will just wait on yours.

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I verified with the estate photos again to be sure I was correct, the capacitor is connected to the top 10k resistor in the schematic.  I also am attaching a pic of the circuit traced crudely by me in paint.net.  The red is top traces, the blue is bottom traces. 

EDIT:  I drew the polarity backwards on the Capacitor.. its been a long week. lol

Quote from massive on December 11th, 2015, 04:58 PM

so wheres fig 10 ?
I had a look for data on LM918M , seems obsolete Op Amp , same pin out as 741 etc
whats with the 1M & 100K resistors connected to test jack ?   a divider

Here is some digging I did on this.
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2283.0

Nate you are correct the Test Jack K(9) does not got to the BNC it is a Test point on the board.

very nice discussion, People are clever at flattering each other in order to promote their own interests without any real intention of giving something in return... 

H

interesting...

i prefere work with my own ideas because of this...

if you google you will find many info i post about the feedback circuit and how i made it works on ionizationx.. i added a bnc to my H signal...

i was just around looking what you are talking about guys... i´m sorry for what i see sometimes...

Quote from gpssonar on December 11th, 2015, 05:20 PM

Nav, I don't have to change my mind about anything, I knew about Field Intensity long before you finished potty training more than likely.
Just for your information all my research is date stamped. We don't need to get into who knew what first here, you will more than likely lose with egg on your face.
I can tell from most of your information, you are learning this as you go.
Some information is right and some is wrong in your post.
I was the one that thought if someone got it working besides me it would be you, But i am rethinking that thought.
About your remark about me not having a working VIC or even knows how it works.
Funny thing was i was having a conversation with Neal last night on Skype. Let me share a few lines of it.
This is where Neal and I was talking about me sharing a video with everyone.
[12/10/2015 10:05:51 PM] Ronnie  Walker: I'm thinking about it very seriously, may talk to everyone and see what they think about it.
[12/10/2015 10:06:26 PM] Neal Ward: Ronnie, I am with you in whatever decision you make. You know that
[12/10/2015 10:07:27 PM] Ronnie  Walker: I know but others are still involved in my promise. we will see.

You can see that Neal was behind me 100% on showing my working cell, I also was thinking about asking the others on the team and see what they thought about it...

But now with your insult in your remarks, I have re-thought that idea.
There is no need to prove anything to you.
And really I care less what you think and others like you.
You need to figure this out all on your own, I think you will feel better in the end if you do.
I don't think you need anymore help from me since you think you got it all figured out, and I don't know how it all works anyway.
But you don't know how close I was in sharing a video with everyone here. I guess we will just wait on yours.
.

Peace and love to all.

Quote from sebosfato on December 12th, 2015, 01:04 AM

very nice discussion, People are clever at flattering each other in order to promote their own interests without any real intention of giving something in return... 

H

interesting...

i prefere work with my own ideas because of this...

if you google you will find many info i post about the feedback circuit and how i made it works on ionizationx.. i added a bnc to my H signal...

i was just around looking what you are talking about guys... i´m sorry for what i see sometimes...

So true,

Threats from helicoptors - encourages us not to research ourselves.
Promises of a working machine in the near future - encourages us not to research ourselves.
Obstruct any progress of others that gets near to a working model with disinformation.
Government proposing new extremist laws to close alternate news and alternate energy sites down shorty.
Name of the game, stall all progress until those laws are passed.
End of game.

Just a word about what you've said in your technical brief Ronnie, I won't be using the gauge wire you suggested, I won't be winding the coils like you suggested and I won't be using the figure 2-4 for dielectric property. I don't do politics, silly mind games and all the rest of it that you've embroiled yourself and others in.
Just don't post stuff in my threads no more, I don't want to see it, none of its any use to me.

I would hope you wouldn't use 30 gauge wire on that core you showed. For i can tell you right now if you do your wasting your time.
And I will take your advice and not post in any of your threads anymore. All I ask for is the same courtesy. Agreed, Just glad we could come to a simple solution to all this.

Quote from gpssonar on December 12th, 2015, 02:33 PM

I would hope you wouldn't use 30 gauge wire on that core you showed. For i can tell you right now if you do your wasting your time.
And I will take your advice and not post in any of your threads anymore. All I ask for is the same courtesy.

I'm not using 29 or 30 and I don't often post in other people's threads. I'm going to build this the way I see Stan saying its built and if it fails then it fails. If it works then i'll show it working as per forum courtesy.
All the rest of the politics and games i'm not interested in.