real KISS is Daniel Dingel but he didn't tell secret and secret died with him.last version of Meyer use low LPM because plasma spark plug injector and water expansion.
Which I still think may work, but first I need the engine to run well enough on HHO alone to begin slowly injecting the water mist and find the best combination.Quote from geenee on May 20th, 2013, 06:03 AM real KISS is Daniel Dingel but he didn't tell secret and secret died with him.last version of Meyer use low LPM because plasma spark plug injector and water expansion.
Right now with just HHO a simple spark works just the same as a plasma spark--no difference, no additional power. So I'm basically stuck until I can either make more HHO or get the HHO I'm making now to be more energetic.
I'm seeing a lot of confusion around Stans work here...
Stan was using basic electrical attraction/repelling forces to make water into a fuel. Nothing magic going on here.
By the laws of physics charges behave in a specific way. Unlike attract and like repel.
The water molecule is polar and has thus a more positively charged side and a more negatively charged side, and if you expose it to an electric field the two sides off it will be attracted in opposite directions and pull the water molecule apart. This is The Electrical Polarization Process.
the same basically goes for the gas processor, you are ripping electrons off and thereby ionizes the gas molecule. Then the gas can be used for The Hydrogen Fracturing Process.
We need to read up on Stans work and stop having crazy theories about were the energy is coming from, coatings, magic resonance frequency's and other stuff. Stans work can be explained by common science and that was what he was trying to do!
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to show you that the explanation for Stans work lies in his patents and publications.
i thought i posted this?Quote from pwrpro on May 20th, 2013, 11:11 AM I'm seeing a lot of confusion around Stans work here...
Stan was using basic electrical attraction/repelling forces to make water into a fuel. Nothing magic going on here.
By the laws of physics charges behave in a specific way. Unlike attract and like repel.
The water molecule is polar and has thus a more positively charged side and a more negatively charged side, and if you expose it to an electric field the two sides off it will be attracted in opposite directions and pull the water molecule apart. This is The Electrical Polarization Process.
the same basically goes for the gas processor, you are ripping electrons off and thereby ionizes the gas molecule. Then the gas can be used for The Hydrogen Fracturing Process.
We need to read up on Stans work and stop having crazy theories about were the energy is coming from, coatings, magic resonance frequency's and other stuff. Stans work can be explained by common science and that was what he was trying to do!
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to show you that the explanation for Stans work lies in his patents and publications.
my mistake.
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LOLQuote from Dog-One on May 20th, 2013, 11:22 AM
thats a good song
the electron extraction is needed. its not magic or useless.
leave it out and just keep wishing you could run an engine
the purpose of the post was not to explain entirely how to make an engine run off water, tried to show that the basic of the processes use electrical attraction forces. the electron extraction is of course required to make the gas processor work.Quote from Ray Don on May 20th, 2013, 11:32 AM LOLQuote from Dog-One on May 20th, 2013, 11:22 AM
thats a good song
the electron extraction is needed. its not magic or useless.
leave it out and just keep wishing you could run an engine
okQuote from pwrpro on May 20th, 2013, 11:37 AM the purpose of the post was not to explain entirely how to make an engine run off water, tried to show that the basic of the processes use electrical attraction forces. the electron extraction is of course required to make the gas processor work.Quote from Ray Don on May 20th, 2013, 11:32 AM LOLQuote from Dog-One on May 20th, 2013, 11:22 AM
thats a good song
the electron extraction is needed. its not magic or useless.
leave it out and just keep wishing you could run an engine
i do like the guy with the fro tho
B+ and B- is clearly electric field.
So now that I got everyone lightened up a bit, what do you think is the best way to test this contraption? Think maybe just monitoring the heat coming out of a torch tip? Tweak voltage and frequencies until you spot something, then zoom in?
I'm seeing a lot of confusion around Stans work here...
Stan was using basic electrical attraction/repelling forces to make water into a fuel. Nothing magic going on here.
By the laws of physics charges behave in a specific way. Unlike attract and like repel.
The water molecule is polar and has thus a more positively charged side and a more negatively charged side, and if you expose it to an electric field the two sides off it will be attracted in opposite directions and pull the water molecule apart. This is The Electrical Polarization Process.
the same basically goes for the gas processor, you are ripping electrons off and thereby ionizes the gas molecule. Then the gas can be used for The Hydrogen Fracturing Process.
We need to read up on Stans work and stop having crazy theories about were the energy is coming from, coatings, magic resonance frequency's and other stuff. Stans work can be explained by common science and that was what he was trying to do!
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to show you that the explanation for Stans work lies in his patents and publications.
I still think the electron extraction circuit can be tested on a normal car running on gasoline. A mileage improvement should show up if it is working. The hydrocarbons still form in to water in the exaust. The theory should still apply.
Come to think about it, has there ever been any shots of Stans daily driver car in videos? I dare to bet he used that as a test bed for many things.
Nate
I'm seeing a lot of confusion around Stans work here...
Stan was using basic electrical attraction/repelling forces to make water into a fuel. Nothing magic going on here.
By the laws of physics charges behave in a specific way. Unlike attract and like repel.
The water molecule is polar and has thus a more positively charged side and a more negatively charged side, and if you expose it to an electric field the two sides off it will be attracted in opposite directions and pull the water molecule apart. This is The Electrical Polarization Process.
the same basically goes for the gas processor, you are ripping electrons off and thereby ionizes the gas molecule. Then the gas can be used for The Hydrogen Fracturing Process.
We need to read up on Stans work and stop having crazy theories about were the energy is coming from, coatings, magic resonance frequency's and other stuff. Stans work can be explained by common science and that was what he was trying to do!
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to show you that the explanation for Stans work lies in his patents and publications.
Probably the most ignorant thing I have heard all day. Crazy theories, coatings, magic resonance frequency's...... if you dont understand how things actually work, please done try to come in here and say sh*t like that.Quote from pwrpro on May 20th, 2013, 11:11 AM I'm seeing a lot of confusion around Stans work here...
Stan was using basic electrical attraction/repelling forces to make water into a fuel. Nothing magic going on here.
By the laws of physics charges behave in a specific way. Unlike attract and like repel.
The water molecule is polar and has thus a more positively charged side and a more negatively charged side, and if you expose it to an electric field the two sides off it will be attracted in opposite directions and pull the water molecule apart. This is The Electrical Polarization Process.
the same basically goes for the gas processor, you are ripping electrons off and thereby ionizes the gas molecule. Then the gas can be used for The Hydrogen Fracturing Process.
We need to read up on Stans work and stop having crazy theories about were the energy is coming from, coatings, magic resonance frequency's and other stuff. Stans work can be explained by common science and that was what he was trying to do!
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to show you that the explanation for Stans work lies in his patents and publications.
Resonance.... Materials.... Ionization.... Aperture of the 3rd dimension....
Learn about these things before you try to tell us how this is all a bunch of crazy blah. Get yourself familiar to harmonics, and the interactions of atoms and their states as well as basic quantum mechanics.
We know how the polarization process works, its been known for decades. The point of stans usage of harmonics is to break the bonds of water and hydrogen much more efficient.
Sure we can make a dry cell and hook up a massive 60v @ 40amps and get a solid 15LPM. But thats exactly the problem.
Stan had to use more than electrolysis from a - and + plate. You have to tap in to the resonance of water to get a high output.
Tesla figured this all out a long time ago, when he vibrated the hotel he was in and got close to the resonant signatures and the hotel started to shake.
Lol.... Magic Resonance Frequencies....... Learn how your cell phone works.Yes uh well actually we should be able to see a difference in output energy, not much, but measurable.Quote from firepinto on May 20th, 2013, 01:33 PM I still think the electron extraction circuit can be tested on a normal car running on gasoline. A mileage improvement should show up if it is working. The hydrocarbons still form in to water in the exaust. The theory should still apply.
Come to think about it, has there ever been any shots of Stans daily driver car in videos? I dare to bet he used that as a test bed for many things.
Nate
We need a compression test cylinder or somethign to test the output energy on the explosion.
Part of me making a gas processor was to do exactly that, hook it to my jeeps intake. I have to do more research though on the effects of the carbon atoms may have in this role. So we will have to see how it goes.I dont know why my posts arent showing up...Quote from pwrpro on May 20th, 2013, 11:11 AM I'm seeing a lot of confusion around Stans work here...
Stan was using basic electrical attraction/repelling forces to make water into a fuel. Nothing magic going on here.
By the laws of physics charges behave in a specific way. Unlike attract and like repel.
The water molecule is polar and has thus a more positively charged side and a more negatively charged side, and if you expose it to an electric field the two sides off it will be attracted in opposite directions and pull the water molecule apart. This is The Electrical Polarization Process.
the same basically goes for the gas processor, you are ripping electrons off and thereby ionizes the gas molecule. Then the gas can be used for The Hydrogen Fracturing Process.
We need to read up on Stans work and stop having crazy theories about were the energy is coming from, coatings, magic resonance frequency's and other stuff. Stans work can be explained by common science and that was what he was trying to do!
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to show you that the explanation for Stans work lies in his patents and publications.
Okay so yea this is the dumbest thing Ive heard all day.
You need to learn about resonance and harmonics and quantum mechanics before you come in here and post about how none of that matters.
Dont take it the wrong way, but you dont understand any of it other than 2 plates one being positive and the other being negative.
i got a engine going together. its got all this stuff going on it. i will tune it to run on just hho, then with the gas processor. see what happens if the tuning changes, then we know something happened
All this is to crazy for me. Im going back to making a small hydrogen bomb. LOL
back then gasoline was 85 cents a gallon. no gas boosters where needed. jobs were easy to find and gas was cheap.
there are people who say just a ozone gen will save you gas.
i think firepinto is a name that should try that.
or print me out a tube for my leds. i will put it in my truck. i get a steady 20mpg going to work every day. it has a carberator
... Stan shows several ways in his patents to strip either. And it all depends on what you intend to use it for.
back then gasoline was 85 cents a gallon. no gas boosters where needed. jobs were easy to find and gas was cheap.
there are people who say just a ozone gen will save you gas.
i think firepinto is a name that should try that.
or print me out a tube for my leds. i will put it in my truck. i get a steady 20mpg going to work every day. it has a carberatoryour right, thats the dumbest thing i read all day too.Quote from GoldBl4d3 on May 20th, 2013, 01:37 PM Probably the most ignorant thing I have heard all day. Crazy theories, coatings, magic resonance frequency's...... if you dont understand how things actually work, please done try to come in here and say sh*t like that.Quote from pwrpro on May 20th, 2013, 11:11 AM I'm seeing a lot of confusion around Stans work here...
Stan was using basic electrical attraction/repelling forces to make water into a fuel. Nothing magic going on here.
By the laws of physics charges behave in a specific way. Unlike attract and like repel.
The water molecule is polar and has thus a more positively charged side and a more negatively charged side, and if you expose it to an electric field the two sides off it will be attracted in opposite directions and pull the water molecule apart. This is The Electrical Polarization Process.
the same basically goes for the gas processor, you are ripping electrons off and thereby ionizes the gas molecule. Then the gas can be used for The Hydrogen Fracturing Process.
We need to read up on Stans work and stop having crazy theories about were the energy is coming from, coatings, magic resonance frequency's and other stuff. Stans work can be explained by common science and that was what he was trying to do!
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to show you that the explanation for Stans work lies in his patents and publications.
Resonance.... Materials.... Ionization.... Aperture of the 3rd dimension....
Learn about these things before you try to tell us how this is all a bunch of crazy blah. Get yourself familiar to harmonics, and the interactions of atoms and their states as well as basic quantum mechanics.
We know how the polarization process works, its been known for decades. The point of stans usage of harmonics is to break the bonds of water and hydrogen much more efficient.
Sure we can make a dry cell and hook up a massive 60v @ 40amps and get a solid 15LPM. But thats exactly the problem.
Stan had to use more than electrolysis from a - and + plate. You have to tap in to the resonance of water to get a high output.
Tesla figured this all out a long time ago, when he vibrated the hotel he was in and got close to the resonant signatures and the hotel started to shake.
Lol.... Magic Resonance Frequencies....... Learn how your cell phone works.Yes uh well actually we should be able to see a difference in output energy, not much, but measurable.Quote from firepinto on May 20th, 2013, 01:33 PM I still think the electron extraction circuit can be tested on a normal car running on gasoline. A mileage improvement should show up if it is working. The hydrocarbons still form in to water in the exaust. The theory should still apply.
Come to think about it, has there ever been any shots of Stans daily driver car in videos? I dare to bet he used that as a test bed for many things.
Nate
We need a compression test cylinder or somethign to test the output energy on the explosion.
Part of me making a gas processor was to do exactly that, hook it to my jeeps intake. I have to do more research though on the effects of the carbon atoms may have in this role. So we will have to see how it goes.I dont know why my posts arent showing up...Quote from pwrpro on May 20th, 2013, 11:11 AM I'm seeing a lot of confusion around Stans work here...
Stan was using basic electrical attraction/repelling forces to make water into a fuel. Nothing magic going on here.
By the laws of physics charges behave in a specific way. Unlike attract and like repel.
The water molecule is polar and has thus a more positively charged side and a more negatively charged side, and if you expose it to an electric field the two sides off it will be attracted in opposite directions and pull the water molecule apart. This is The Electrical Polarization Process.
the same basically goes for the gas processor, you are ripping electrons off and thereby ionizes the gas molecule. Then the gas can be used for The Hydrogen Fracturing Process.
We need to read up on Stans work and stop having crazy theories about were the energy is coming from, coatings, magic resonance frequency's and other stuff. Stans work can be explained by common science and that was what he was trying to do!
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to show you that the explanation for Stans work lies in his patents and publications.
Okay so yea this is the dumbest thing Ive heard all day.
You need to learn about resonance and harmonics and quantum mechanics before you come in here and post about how none of that matters.
Dont take it the wrong way, but you dont understand any of it other than 2 plates one being positive and the other being negative.
LOL
resonance of water is into the ghz.
let me know when your bell rings that fast:P
simply to break a molicule apart with its resonant frequency.......you just turn up you frequency gen to say........idk....20ghz. for a base freq, then 21 ghz and 19 ghz then that baby will just come unglued.
problem is...........YOU CANT
LOL
thats not what stan did. and he did not ring his tubes like a bell either .
physics man..........its awesome
a child can ring a bell....then again.....so can a school teacher....and the icecream man.
show me a bell making HHO